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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2151

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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:16:00 -
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Shiuri wrote:I E2: Two things I noticed this morning playing around: - The loot primary action button does not work in the latest iteration. At least, it doesn't work on convoy wrecks. - Drag-out functionality needs to accommodate the edge of the screen. When I drag to the edge of the screen I can't set the distance past the edge of the screen, which is a problem when using the menu on an item at the top of the overview (for instance). Just fixed the loot thing, thanks for letting us know 
And what? can you not drag out off screen? You won't see the mouse, but you should see the range increase. It better work because I had to do a lot of extra work to make it so  CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
143
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:14:00 -
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Do you happen to know if your intended mouse-lag fixes made it into this patch? Because I'm still having the mouse lag issues with the radial menu. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5156
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Posted - 2013.05.24 22:28:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:And what? can you not drag out off screen? You won't see the mouse, but you should see the range increase. It better work because I had to do a lot of extra work to make it so  It works for me, but I only have one screen. It needs to be tested with multiple screens. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |

Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
110
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Posted - 2013.05.24 23:53:00 -
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Altrue wrote:I would love to be able to clic on the scan button to open the scanning window, without having to deal with a radial menu. Of course, holding down left clic can still open the radial menu for the scan button. I would love this. Given that I want to open the scanning window *anyway* for 3 of the 4 options, it seems kind of silly to force me into a radial menu there. Keep one button to open the scanning window, add another button for the sensor overlay. Possibly just put the settings for the sensor overlay somewhere in the scan window instead of having a button for it on the HUD. |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2151

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Posted - 2013.05.25 00:39:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Do you happen to know if your intended mouse-lag fixes made it into this patch? Because I'm still having the mouse lag issues with the radial menu. yeah, they should be there... is it as much lag as before? CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
143
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Posted - 2013.05.25 03:08:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Do you happen to know if your intended mouse-lag fixes made it into this patch? Because I'm still having the mouse lag issues with the radial menu. yeah, they should be there... is it as much lag as before?
Exactly as much. I'm starting to wonder if this isn't a hardware/driver issue. My system is not exactly the most up to date by any means at all. |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
140
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Posted - 2013.05.25 05:07:00 -
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On the topic of mouse lag with the radial menu open, I specifically test this several times every time I randomly feel like it (this ends up being 10-12 times per SiSi logon), just checking to see if there's a difference in speed. At least on my end, it doesn't seem like there's any lag - or if there is, it's not significant enough to be definitely noticed. |

Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion
564
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Posted - 2013.05.25 12:22:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Do you happen to know if your intended mouse-lag fixes made it into this patch? Because I'm still having the mouse lag issues with the radial menu. yeah, they should be there... is it as much lag as before? There is definitely still lag here. The mouse gets a delay as if it was software mouse instead of hardware. My PC is top of the line as well, so that's not the issue |

Oberine Noriepa
1221
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Posted - 2013.05.25 12:28:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:CCP karkur wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Do you happen to know if your intended mouse-lag fixes made it into this patch? Because I'm still having the mouse lag issues with the radial menu. yeah, they should be there... is it as much lag as before? There is definitely still lag here. The mouse gets a delay as if it was software mouse instead of hardware. My PC is top of the line as well, so that's not the issue This is occurring for me as well. Furthermore, once I click the circular button for the sensors, the radial menu stays open and I have to use ESC to get out of it. |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
141
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Posted - 2013.05.25 14:29:00 -
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So I just tried testing again, using a somewhat... different methodology. As if any of my testing is remotely scientific.
Turns out that the mouse actually is somewhat slower than without the menu up. At least in my opinion though, it's not a bad thing and seems to help with precision. My otherwise-ridiculous mouse speed may have something to do with precision being otherwise tricky. |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2154

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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:16:00 -
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Alright... I've spent most of today trying to fix this mouse lag issue, and we are hoping to get the potential fix on Sisi tomorrow. We are trying to get this to you as soon as possible so we can react to bugs or if it's not actually fixed, so it would be fantastic if you could check it out when it goes on Sisi :) And then pleeeeease pay attention to whether the menu is doing what it should be doing, because I had to mess a lot with it. CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
146
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Posted - 2013.05.26 05:33:00 -
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By "doing what it should be doing", do you mean buttons having the correct effect when you select them? |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2154

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Posted - 2013.05.26 11:03:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:By "doing what it should be doing", do you mean buttons having the correct effect when you select them? yeah, and correct buttons selected based on your mouse movements and position of the pointer (even if it's off screen).... basically: did I break something  CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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Jack Ogeko
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.05.26 12:09:00 -
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hi i have now system scaner on one click, don't breake it, by making it on two clicks; for radial menu and scaner, do scaner at rigth click and on left click radial or something like that, i wish to have still scaner on 1 click. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
5170
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Posted - 2013.05.26 12:29:00 -
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I don't know if this is intentional but when using the drag to select range function, some of my modules get greyed out. I'm guessing this isn't intentional because it's only some of my modules and it's weird, but I haven't seen anybody else report this. -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel. |

T1nyMan
Interstellar Solutions Agency
41
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Posted - 2013.05.26 13:56:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I don't know if this is intentional but when using the drag to select range function, some of my modules get greyed out. I'm guessing this isn't intentional because it's only some of my modules and it's weird, but I haven't seen anybody else report this.
Is it possible they grey out as they fall out of range for the range to be set?
It is possible I'm way off track though as I have never been on sisi.. Or seen this functionality.. And I'm guessing.. Heh |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
149
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Posted - 2013.05.26 13:58:00 -
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T1nyMan wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:I don't know if this is intentional but when using the drag to select range function, some of my modules get greyed out. I'm guessing this isn't intentional because it's only some of my modules and it's weird, but I haven't seen anybody else report this. Is it possible they grey out as they fall out of range for the range to be set? It is possible I'm way off track though as I have never been on sisi.. Or seen this functionality.. And I'm guessing.. Heh
...err...
... *cough*
...moving on!
What do you mean by "greyed out"? Greyed out like they're offline?
Also, for "I want to have scanner on one click" then just click, hold the button down while you drag the cursor over to the scanner icon, and then release. One click, and it doesn't even take very long. |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
149
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Posted - 2013.05.26 14:10:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:By "doing what it should be doing", do you mean buttons having the correct effect when you select them? yeah, and correct buttons selected based on your mouse movements and position of the pointer (even if it's off screen).... basically: did I break something 
I try not to double post, but this is a suitable reason to.
After having spent about half an hour with my thoroughly unscientific (and yet completely exhaustive) testing method of wildly flailing the mouse cursor around and then opening the radial menu to continue flailing the cursor around with it open, closing the menu to consider if I saw any difference in speed or whether it's just my brain compensating for something and then repeating the process again:
No perceptible mouse lag is observed. I must have done it dozens or even dozens and dozens of times at various random intervals on just about whatever I could think of. Furthermore, the cursor seems to behave correctly even if it's technically "offscreen".
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T1nyMan
Interstellar Solutions Agency
41
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Posted - 2013.05.26 14:14:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:T1nyMan wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:I don't know if this is intentional but when using the drag to select range function, some of my modules get greyed out. I'm guessing this isn't intentional because it's only some of my modules and it's weird, but I haven't seen anybody else report this. Is it possible they grey out as they fall out of range for the range to be set? It is possible I'm way off track though as I have never been on sisi.. Or seen this functionality.. And I'm guessing.. Heh ...err... ... *cough* ...moving on! What do you mean by "greyed out"? Greyed out like they're offline? Also, for "I want to have scanner on one click" then just click, hold the button down while you drag the cursor over to the scanner icon, and then release. One click, and it doesn't even take very long.
In my imagination that seems to work very well.. Hope the cold gets better ;P |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2154

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Posted - 2013.05.26 14:26:00 -
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T1nyMan wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:T1nyMan wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:I don't know if this is intentional but when using the drag to select range function, some of my modules get greyed out. I'm guessing this isn't intentional because it's only some of my modules and it's weird, but I haven't seen anybody else report this. Is it possible they grey out as they fall out of range for the range to be set? It is possible I'm way off track though as I have never been on sisi.. Or seen this functionality.. And I'm guessing.. Heh ...err... ... *cough* ...moving on! What do you mean by "greyed out"? Greyed out like they're offline? Also, for "I want to have scanner on one click" then just click, hold the button down while you drag the cursor over to the scanner icon, and then release. One click, and it doesn't even take very long. In my imagination that seems to work very well.. Hope the cold gets better ;P Yes, the modules that are not in optimal + falloff range for that range are faded out... however, we will probably be changing that so the ones in range are rather made brighter.
CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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Shuin Pa
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.05.26 14:34:00 -
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Thank you for adding the settings option for a different mouse button to activate this menu.
Now it works great and I can access it when I want to.
Pa |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
149
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Posted - 2013.05.26 14:34:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Yes, the modules that are not in optimal + falloff range for that range are faded out... however, we will probably be changing that so the ones in range are rather made brighter.
I had no idea about this functionality, so I tested it just now. Took a little bit of re-reading and experimentation to trigger it. Very interesting! However, I do suggest that the choice of greying them out similarly to offlined modules should indeed be changed. The safety system makes it tough to turn them red. Making in-range ones brighter might not be as effective as one would hope, unless it was something very bright like a white glow or some such.
Perhaps fading out-of-range modules to be transparent rather than grey could be effective? |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2154

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Posted - 2013.05.26 14:52:00 -
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Alvatore DiMarco wrote:After having spent about half an hour with my thoroughly unscientific (and yet completely exhaustive) testing method of wildly flailing the mouse cursor around and then opening the radial menu to continue flailing the cursor around with it open, closing the menu to consider if I saw any difference in speed or whether it's just my brain compensating for something and then repeating the process again:
No perceptible mouse lag is observed. I must have done it dozens or even dozens and dozens of times at various random intervals on just about whatever I could think of. Furthermore, the cursor seems to behave correctly even if it's technically "offscreen".
That's great to hear, thanks for testing it out 
CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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Tritanium Avenger
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.05.26 15:10:00 -
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Didn't notice any delay and also that weird bug where the cursor wouldn't move out of a certain area of the screen looks solved.
Good job :) |

Salpun
Paramount Commerce
500
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Posted - 2013.05.26 18:12:00 -
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New feed back thread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3091534#post3091534 |

Adam Geary
Rubella Solaris I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
0
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Posted - 2013.05.27 18:56:00 -
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its a bit annoying that the radial keeps coming up when re arranging ur top slots even had it do it to me when trying to activate my DC in the mass test.
However it is a nice addition, just tweak it to keep it from getting in the way of combat |

scimichar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.05.28 03:03:00 -
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scimichar wrote:CCP karkur wrote:But regarding the scanner one, it actually also works to click the scanner button... then the menu appears and you can click the icons, you do not have to hold the button down (but in that case you have to click the actually buttons in the menu I think).
I click on the scanner button, try clicking to the side, it "shows" the click on the screen but doesn't do anything. I have to move the cursor up to see the arrow, move down, click, then the cursor appears in the middle of the screen.
It works as expected now. Thank you. I know this isn't the right thread for this, but please bring back the list of anoms. Thanks, |

Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
156
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Posted - 2013.05.28 04:28:00 -
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Adam Geary wrote:its a bit annoying that the radial keeps coming up when re arranging ur top slots even had it do it to me when trying to activate my DC in the mass test.
However it is a nice addition, just tweak it to keep it from getting in the way of combat
Go into your ESC menu and there will be settings for the delay.
scimichar wrote:
It works as expected now. Thank you. I know this isn't the right thread for this, but please bring back the list of anoms. Thanks,
Unless they changed something between earlier today and right now, the anoms are still shown in the probing list. |

Chirality Tisteloin
Zervas Aeronautics Tribal Band
21
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:04:00 -
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When I drag out the orbiting distance from the radial menu, can I get a (colour?) indicator when I cross my current range?
Thanks, Chira. See you at my blog: http://spindensity.wordpress.com/ |
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CCP Sisyphus
C C P C C P Alliance
496

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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:20:00 -
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Chirality Tisteloin wrote:When I drag out the orbiting distance from the radial menu, can I get a (colour?) indicator when I cross my current range?
Thanks, Chira.
Can you explain this a little better? WHat do you mean "current range"? Context of what are you trying to do?
CCP Sisyphus | Team PE | Team Klang | @CCP_Sisyphus |
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