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Kadl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:12:00 -
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I have posted this on the Probe Scanning thread, but many of the points are related to the new Sensor Overlay. These are my initial impressions, before reading the threads. There are many good points in both threads from people who clearly had more time to test things out. One thing I have noticed is the lack of integration. The anomalies appear on the overlay, but not on the map. This leads to Fozzie's comment about removing the list. Many people have noted reasons why the list provides real and good information. Since you would not be removing the list itself (it will remain for probe scanning right?), it seems a bit odd to remove it here as well. From the view point of integration and orientation I would want to be able to see everything on the sensor overlay on the system map while scanning with probes as well. You might be able to use the system map instead of the list, but that has problems with active systems.
Initial general impressions 1) Impression after 30 seconds: Gack! This is confusing and horrible. 2) Where did that colored thing go? Having the colored site locators disappear may make sense from a design prospective, but it looked like some random thing disappearing from my screen. 3) Everything else looks bland. The planets and stellar features are distinctly nondescript in comparison to the brightly colored sites.
Attempts at using 4) I want to try scanning down that orange site. Where is it? When I go to the map I do not see the sites that I see from the system scanner. The 100% sites are not there. The sites to scan do not have an approximate location, even though you gave that to me in the ship view. Please provide an approximate location for those things so that I can orient myself when switching between the two views. The information can be very inexact since I know that I need to scan it down. 5) I am losing the sites that I did scan down? This is a cruel joke. I should have those sites identified in both the map and ship view as green with 100%. 6) I must have seven probes? Why didn't you sell me a seven in one probe, or why not let me launch what I have? You know sometimes I just want to launch one probe to see what is around. The seven probe thing neither makes sense, nor is functional. 7) Warp to, but not align? I should be able to align to the sites as well as warp to them. I can align to nearly everything else in my ship's view. 8) Have I found everything? I missed one site because of it's orientation with respect to my ship. I want a list, but I have read that you don't. At the very least I need to be able to go to the system map and see all of the sites at once. That might be a replacement for the list. 9) Which direction is that? Orienting in space and making certain you are viewing all of the space is a special mental peculiarity like color blindness. It is especially difficult in a computer game because you do not have a kinesthetic sense or sense of balance. The system should have multiple methods of identifying the locations so that they are accessible to more people. You should also consider the needs of the blind community. Again a list would be good, the map should be populated, and you may be able to think of other options. |

Kadl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:45:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Regarding the scan overlay visuals: I think the residual grid effect that's currently present is, perhaps, a bit overbearing in contrast to the space environment. My preference is something more among the lines of DRADIS from a visual standpoint. It's simple, but effective. Making the visuals of the scanner simpler and more neutral could definitely reduce the potential annoyance of its persistence substantially. I've noticed that, while the overlay is active, if you decide to look around with the right-click camera function, a glitch will occur and the overlay will disappear.
They mentioned a variety of options at fanfest, before they settled on this one. I wonder if they could provide options (one for each race?) and allow us to "equip our ships" with them (select an option). |

Kadl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.10 15:09:00 -
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Ya Huei wrote:Just confirming that the people from K162 and Adhocracy that have posted previously are right on the money. Talk to James and Cipreh as promised and things should turn out fine.
Also have you considered making the system scanner results a form of delayed mode scanning ? Brand new signatures would start showing up after a random amount of time, this would allow gank fleets to still do their thing and remove the EZ-mode from this system.
People bothering to throw scanner probes out for safety should have an advantage over this system imho.
The plan appears to be to show the signatures immediately. That guess is based on a comment by Fozzie in Resource Shakeup thread. In that thread he suggested that there would be a twist to the new system which would make the grav -> anomaly transition much better than it seems. My speculation is that he was imagining the automatic identification of new signatures as the twist. |

Kadl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.10 16:31:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:I think it would make a lot more sense to move the results from the initial auto-scan directly in the scanner. Now I see them in space, but need to scan manualy to have them in the scanner window.
Yes that makes sense, but Fozzie wants to remove that list. In truth I think he means he wants to remove the analyze button on the scanner list since that list is also used for probes. The basic idea of moving away from spreadsheets in space sounds good, but the implementation here is insufficient and removing the list at this point would cripple game play. |

Kadl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 02:35:00 -
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Sensor background of squares looks like the bathroom tiles after a while. It also goes behind structures, in front of billboards and in front of planets. I noticed the effect while warping. I also had the sensor scan graphic on the wormhole, as I was jumping through it. The spin speed is actually good, and you can use it to track your eye around the circle as you search for anomalies and signatures. You also need some other feature to help you know when you have made the full circle. |
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