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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:30:00 -
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Cailais wrote:I think its safe to say that those monocles didn't deliver the 20% increase in profits CCP wanted.
No prizes for guessing where that 20% of cash is now coming from.
C.
You'd love to believe that the punishment for the monoclegate fiasco might maybe (just maybe) be dispensing with the services of the NeX brainiacs that came close to screwing the game completely wouldn't you?
I will be so damned disappointed if those guys survive this while decent community reps do not.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
49
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:33:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Cailais wrote:I think its safe to say that those monocles didn't deliver the 20% increase in profits CCP wanted.
No prizes for guessing where that 20% of cash is now coming from.
C. You'd love to believe that the punishment for the monoclegate fiasco might maybe (just maybe) be dispensing with the services of the NeX brainiacs that came close to screwing the game completely wouldn't you? I will be so damned disappointed if those guys survive this while decent community reps do not.
That Alone concerns me.
They should have been first on the chopping block IMO.
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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
570
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:37:00 -
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Psychophantic wrote:The unsub protest worked apparently. Hit em where it hurts wasn't it?
Now you're going to unsub in protest over these firings and a few more will get the axe.
Anti NeX Monoclegate protest cannot be considered any form of success until CCP recant that horrible corruption of the Eve sandbox. If the response to the glorious Jita protests is firing other devs while maintaining the NeX designers/pushers in corner offices then its simply another ludicrious misjudgement by CCP senior management.
Sadly the spiral will continue until this lesson is learned because there are an awful lot of annoyed long term Eve players who can afford to post on forums and spin their ships by selling off their space-stuff for plex without resubscribing until CCP pull head from ass and genuinely face up to the mistakes they have made.
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |
Cailais
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
61
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:39:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Cailais wrote:I think its safe to say that those monocles didn't deliver the 20% increase in profits CCP wanted.
No prizes for guessing where that 20% of cash is now coming from.
C. You'd love to believe that the punishment for the monoclegate fiasco might maybe (just maybe) be dispensing with the services of the NeX brainiacs that came close to screwing the game completely wouldn't you? I will be so damned disappointed if those guys survive this while decent community reps do not. That Alone concerns me. They should have been first on the chopping block IMO.
I dont take any pleasure in hearing that someone will lose their job. I understand thats a degree of human empathy typically loathed by the EVE community but I think I can stand up to the flames.
All in all its a pretty sorry tale.
C.
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stoicfaux
302
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:46:00 -
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Do you wonder if CCP management plays Eve? And do you wonder if any of the 20% know the names of management's characters...?
Tinfoil. It should be at the top of everyone's food pyramid.
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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:50:00 -
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And so the flames, despite being apparently turned to cinders, are thus, by the hand of the Cackling Demon, fanned again to Brilliance.
Burn CCP! ... Burn! ... such a sad day indeed. Perhaps they just fired the people that pointed out to them how WRONG THEY WERE and kept the ones praising the NEX fiasco as the next best thing.
So usual. Perhaps a new CEO is in order? or perhaps let this game die for once, truly die and be done with this charade. Also Dust over WoD, so wrong on so many levels, at least the twilight crowd would have filled that game to the brink. Ha! the irony is amusing.
Incarna , the Playbook of CCP, another good idea to come CCP? perhaps OS/2? |
Lamperouge Kasenumi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:01:00 -
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Players: Burn CCP!!!
CCP: Sup?
Players: We want more ship stuff!
CCP: Ok, we'll re-focus on FiS!!!
Players: We're going to look more at what you do than what you say!!
CCP layoff community employees
Players: O.O
Players: Burn CCP!!! |
Djavo
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:18:00 -
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Most of the replies here made me laugh, the clueless are a true inspiration. |
Esna Pitoojee
The Peerage
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:21:00 -
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My god, CCP. You'd just managed to earn some of my trust back, and then this...
To make this clear, I am not objecting to the axing of jobs. Axing of jobs was quite likely an economic neccesity. What I am objecting to is the firing of core personnel who gained a deep understanding of EVE as a game, as a piece of software, and as a community from long periods of experience with all of the above.
Fallout and Zymurgist are only the beginning - what about Hammerhead, who was responsible for a huge amount of game development over the years and a much better idea of how we would respond to, ignore, and even abuse a game feature? What about CCP Valar, a database manager who knew what the hell was doing (in a time when the server seems to be falling dead from database issues every couple of weaks)? What about Maidensteel, who was just in the middle of collecting suggestions by the playerbase or new NeX products we'd actually like?
Our issue is not with your choice to shrink. It's your choice to cut out the heart to try and save the body. |
Afale II
Space Pony Farm
12
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:38:00 -
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I think Hilmar finally realized that he is the CEO of a company.
Getting rid of unessesary people, like some parts of the EVE community team and closing this WOD Project for now is the best thing he did in years.
Finish your "PS3 Adventure" while hopefully giving EVE real Expansions again is the way to go.
You gained much trust back Hilmar don't blow it this time.
-Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be- |
Maekor Stormborn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:47:00 -
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Noah was fired, and that is a pretty good start. |
Bomberlocks
CTRL-Q
1
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:53:00 -
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I'm sad, angry and drunk right now. This game has been an emotional roller coaster to say the least.
Also, fire Hilmar.
And Torfi.
And Zulu.
Hire the people from FHC. Make Eve truly nasty (in a good way). |
Raid'En
Apprentice Innovations
77
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Posted - 2011.10.19 23:09:00 -
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hey CCP i hope for you that the new guys that will do the community stuff will be good, and won't come in months.
your actions make no sense.... you don't fire the community team when you promise us to communicate more...
and i suppose the guy(s) who choosed the nex items prices and others ****** ideas are not on the list ? |
Cailais
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
64
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Posted - 2011.10.19 23:10:00 -
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Maekor Stormborn wrote:Noah was fired, and that is a pretty good start.
I liked Noah.
C.
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Kengutsi Akira
61
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Posted - 2011.10.19 23:30:00 -
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Djavo wrote:Most of the replies here made me laugh, the clueless are a true inspiration.
so fill us in O Wise One
What Mittani wants, Mittani gets, Mittani help us all
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Alexsei Volkov
Order Of Black Knights
3
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Posted - 2011.10.19 23:35:00 -
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Sad day hearing about Zymurgist and Fallout being gone.
Made even worse to hear my friend, and the entire web team out of Atlanta got the boot as well.
I think I'll let my guns fall idle, and give them the moment of respect they deserve.
Then I'll go right back to blowing **** up in their names! |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2011.10.19 23:49:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:What the hell? Zymurgist and Fallout? That doesn't make sense... they released a dev bog about how they are firing 20% of the workforce to focus on eve and dust for now... This makes the playerbase happy.
And then they fire what are basically eve celebrities, in the same stroke? Thus making the community angry? Maybe we don't have the whole story, maybe those 2 quit. I can't believe anyone is that dumb.
edit: wait Wrangler too? ok fallout and zym i can almost take... but Wrangler? **** OFF CCP. I joined back in 2007 and he was there helping me on day one. This is BS.
Pretty much this.
What an appalling bunch of stupid from CCP we've had this year.
And after some excellent devblogs recently too. My hopes were building again, and my trust in CCP was somewhat restored.
Now??? Pfft.
WoD team I can understand, it may have been inevitable anyway - that's the sort of unfortunate accident that can happen, company has big plans during good times, circumstances change and the "expansion" of the company is now "overstretch". Nobody's fault really, just unfortunate.
But the community guys who are well-loved by the community at a time when CCP needs the community on its side?
Yeah, I say heads should roll at the top. This is getting beyond a joke, it's like a ******* Benny Hill farce. |
shashe sin
State War Academy
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.10.20 00:45:00 -
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Only resubscribed my main since I saw a increase in communication from the community team. Now that they got fired 2 weeks after i subscribed back... Im wondering if ive made the right choice...
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
61
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Posted - 2011.10.20 00:47:00 -
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Barbelo Valentinian wrote:MotherMoon wrote:What the hell? Zymurgist and Fallout? That doesn't make sense... they released a dev bog about how they are firing 20% of the workforce to focus on eve and dust for now... This makes the playerbase happy.
And then they fire what are basically eve celebrities, in the same stroke? Thus making the community angry? Maybe we don't have the whole story, maybe those 2 quit. I can't believe anyone is that dumb.
edit: wait Wrangler too? ok fallout and zym i can almost take... but Wrangler? **** OFF CCP. I joined back in 2007 and he was there helping me on day one. This is BS. Pretty much this. What an appalling bunch of stupid from CCP we've had this year. And after some excellent devblogs recently too. My hopes were building again, and my trust in CCP was somewhat restored. Now??? Pfft. WoD team I can understand, it may have been inevitable anyway - that's the sort of unfortunate accident that can happen, company has big plans during good times, circumstances change and the "expansion" of the company is now "overstretch". Nobody's fault really, just unfortunate. But the community guys who are well-loved by the community at a time when CCP needs the community on its side? Yeah, I say heads should roll at the top. This is getting beyond a joke, it's like a ******* Benny Hill farce.
Yeah they screw over EvE for years then fire the very people that helped keep us from giving up on the game.
BRILLIANT CCP. BRILLIANTLY STUPID THAT IS.
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Cunane Jeran
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Posted - 2011.10.20 00:59:00 -
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If its true they fired those folks that basically took the bullet over the summer, then they have lost all faith from me.
You don't **** on guys and girls like that, esp as they are the ones communicating with us and are very well liked. |
Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
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Posted - 2011.10.20 01:01:00 -
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Bring Fallout back ! 
My youtube channel
Video Thread |
Tuggboat
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2011.10.20 01:03:00 -
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DId they fire those Goons? |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
62
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Posted - 2011.10.20 01:03:00 -
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Asayanami Dei wrote:Bring Fallout back !
Even if CCP bring him back they just blew away any sliver of trust in them going forward. CCP just killed all hope for respecting them every again. |
SpaceSquirrels
Scordite Excavating Xenaphobe
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Posted - 2011.10.20 01:04:00 -
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Depends on who's idea's they were or who was in charge of managing the teams. Clearly hillmar wont fire himself.
Did those guys deserve it? I dunno.
Cutting the fat isnt always a bad thing. So lets hope for the best. Until then speculation as to the outcome.
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Your Stuff
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 01:06:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:Let's hope they at least fired that NEX store douche. I forget his name.
CCP Zinfandel. And this is spot on. It will really be telling if this guy makes it and people like CCP Hammerhead take the fall... |
The Apostle
The Black Priests
549
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Posted - 2011.10.20 01:35:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Asayanami Dei wrote:Bring Fallout back ! Even if CCP bring him back they just blew away any sliver of trust in them going forward. CCP just killed all hope for respecting them every again.
I see the word "RogueOperator" and all I can hope is your job in RL is not a clown giving out Carousel rides at kids parties. (or maybe it was so that's why you're here all day)
Man you are sooooo negative. If everything is soooo bad in Eve, why are you even here?
Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest.
WTB: An Austrian kangaroo!
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
69
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Posted - 2011.10.20 01:39:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Asayanami Dei wrote:Bring Fallout back ! Even if CCP bring him back they just blew away any sliver of trust in them going forward. CCP just killed all hope for respecting them every again. I see the word "RogueOperator" and all I can hope is your job in RL is not a clown giving out Carousel rides at kids parties. (or maybe it was so that's why you're here all day) Man you are sooooo negative. If everything is soooo bad in Eve, why are you even here?
Cuase they dont give refunds on prepaid subs.
You see i used to have faith in CCP. They blew it with incarna. And made it worse almost every decision since. Even the bit of hope i had about winter expansion was crushed by the realization CCP has not in fact learned a damn thing from all of this.
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Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
70
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Posted - 2011.10.20 03:33:00 -
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How many need to be laid off until Hilmar is added to the list? |
EVE Stig
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2011.10.20 03:37:00 -
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Your Stuff wrote:Jada Maroo wrote:Let's hope they at least fired that NEX store douche. I forget his name. CCP Zinfandel. And this is spot on. It will really be telling if this guy makes it and people like CCP Hammerhead take the fall...
Yeah, telling in a "which direction is this game going in" kind of way
"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him."
"Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
EVE Stig
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2011.10.20 03:38:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Asayanami Dei wrote:Bring Fallout back ! Even if CCP bring him back they just blew away any sliver of trust in them going forward. CCP just killed all hope for respecting them every again. I see the word "RogueOperator" and all I can hope is your job in RL is not a clown giving out Carousel rides at kids parties. (or maybe it was so that's why you're here all day) Man you are sooooo negative. If everything is soooo bad in Eve, why are you even here?
youre thinking them laying off 20% of the company is a good thing?
"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him."
"Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"! |
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