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Oskatat
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Posted - 2005.10.12 14:58:00 -
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Im relatively new at level 4 missions, but through trial and error (3 Apocs) ive come up with a short list of level 4 missions that I feel can be comfortably completed solo. I fly an Apoc with standard NPC fitting, occasionally fitting a stab for extra comfort.
1. Gone Beserk 2. The Score 3.The Blockade (good loot dropper) 4. Damsel In Distress 5. Vengeance 6. The Sansha Spies (easy) 7. Unathorized Military Presence (tough, but can be done, watch out for the Tempests in final wave tho) 8. Revenge Is Sweet.
Anyone else feel they can add to this? Thankyou in advance
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mimik
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Posted - 2005.10.12 16:38:00 -
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they can all be done solo just some take better skills and setups.
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branodn lee
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Posted - 2005.10.13 11:20:00 -
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another thing is who you do missions for. im surpised if you can solo a angel lev4 in a apoc just becouse it would be hard to keep the tank and still do enough damage to kill the bs.
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B0rn2KiLL
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Posted - 2005.10.13 11:34:00 -
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Key to lvl 4 missions is selective agro and good TURN-HEAD BACK skills.
no ship in existance with access to lvl 4 missions can withstand a full pocket agro. and frankly anyone who warps in-starts shooting is not worthy of doing lvl 4 mission, he better just give me his isks.
btw a friend of mine solo` l4 angel extrav in his rave+t2 equipment and good skills.
most l4 missions are solo`able, but some need assistance "just incase" or to really take care of a major damage dealer..
abandoned outpost, is one of them missions, damn the auto agro on the 2nd stage is just asswhooping, i cant turn-hadback fast enoguh personally :( 3-4K shields eaten in seconds :[ --- When It Absolutely Positively Has To Be Desotroyed. |
Toaster Oven
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Posted - 2005.10.13 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: B0rn2KiLL Key to lvl 4 missions is selective agro and good TURN-HEAD BACK skills.
no ship in existance with access to lvl 4 missions can withstand a full pocket agro.
Not true. HACs can easily tank entire stages of Lvl 4 missions when dealing only with dmg types that suit their natural resists.
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Oskatat
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Posted - 2005.10.13 13:12:00 -
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I lost my first Apoc to Angel Extravaganza by warping in and shooting everything on sight, I have since soloed it. It isnt on my solo lvl 4 list because it is tough and very very time consuming. Also the Seraphim BS just sit at around 39km away and with my setup take soooo long to go down.
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UBER NATOR
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Posted - 2005.10.13 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Toaster Oven
Originally by: B0rn2KiLL Key to lvl 4 missions is selective agro and good TURN-HEAD BACK skills.
no ship in existance with access to lvl 4 missions can withstand a full pocket agro.
Not true. HACs can easily tank entire stages of Lvl 4 missions when dealing only with dmg types that suit their natural resists.
Is it only me that thinks the above is wrong. A HAC can tank all lvl 4 rats, but a Battleship cant, it has to pick its fights and be quiet, cause if you wake them all up yr dead.
UberNator
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Toaster Oven
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Posted - 2005.10.13 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: UBER NATOR Is it only me that thinks the above is wrong. A HAC can tank all lvl 4 rats, but a Battleship cant, it has to pick its fights and be quiet, cause if you wake them all up yr dead.
UberNator
You must not fly a HAC. They certainly aren't good against all Lvl4 rats. They are only good against rats that deal dmg suited for their natural resists. Which makes them very specialized, but also very good at what they do. For general duty, a BS works much better.
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Burzon
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Posted - 2005.10.14 09:52:00 -
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I can solo most Lvl 4 missions in my Megathron with good skills and Tech2 equipment :) Some Lvl 4 missions need assistance from my alt who uses an Apoc with remote Armor reppers. To your list i would add:
- Sabotaged - Duo of Death
Only with help atm:
- Extravaganza - Ritualists Raid
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.14 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: B0rn2KiLL no ship in existance with access to lvl 4 missions can withstand a full pocket agro.
The ishtar can on certain ds missions actually ^_^
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Seramis
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Posted - 2005.10.14 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: B0rn2KiLL no ship in existance with access to lvl 4 missions can withstand a full pocket agro.
The ishtar can on certain ds missions actually ^_^
I doubt an ishtar can withstand if in deathspace all ships in one stage attacks at same time. It can handle if only one group is attacking, and then kill the rats group by group, but if the entiire stage is attacking your ishtar will transform to cosmic dust in no time, like every other ship in game too.
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Esrevatem Dlareme
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Posted - 2005.10.14 22:17:00 -
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I know it's not terribly difficult to get HAC specialized resists up above 90%, which makes it fairly easy for them to tank certain missions that only do those two types of damage. For the Gallente, it's easy to get serpentis missions and serpentis do ONLY thermal and kinetic damage. So it's not really beyond belief that a HAC could tank an entire spawn, since they will shrug off most damage that hits them, and will also get missed a lot more than your teir 2 BS.
I can solo all lvl 4 missions in my Megathron, but I have fairly good skills too. I don't bother with lvl 4 Angel Extravaganza, simply because it takes too long, and angels are such a PITA.
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Disturbed
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Posted - 2005.10.14 23:02:00 -
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only started level 4's today..but this is what ive found so far. Fed navy missions: (i use a mega with 2 1600 plates, on large t2 rep, and 4 hardeners:
lvl 4: gone beserk -serp- can do in af, BS rats Smuggler interception -serp- can do in af The blockade - serp- can do in af, tricky, Dual BS rats The score -serp- can do in af 1, BS easy The rogue slave trader -Amar navy- webing frigs! need to use BS, in at 60km, 2em 2therm Duo of death - 2x1.5 +Spider drones! use BS 2 kin, 2 therm Sabotage supply line - Serp-frigs!! use BS 2 kin,2therm HARD. align after kills.4 respawns
may not make much sesne to anyone but me..but thought id post it anyways! i use the mega, and once im in and engaged, i fly an assualt frig in with an alt (set for damage) to wipe out all the frigs incase i need to get out quick.
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vipeer
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Posted - 2005.10.15 15:33:00 -
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To all those who claim that an Ishtar can withstand a full aggro it seems you dont fly it to those missions.
In Serpentis "Vengeance" you CANNOT tank the entire spawn on lvl1 even with 2*thermal and 1*kinetic hardeners wich push your resists to 90% and a T2 armor repper. You can though tank half of the spawn. But not indefinitely. Rescue the damsel spawn will PwN you in 1 minute after engaging even with apropriate tank. Angel extravaganza spawns will kill you if you dont kill them sooner. (not all though). You can roughly tank 3-4 long range BS and not worry about them or double that short range (provided you are orbiting one of the short rangers)
It's a trial and error thing. If you dont know what to expect saddle up a shuttle and scout it out ;)
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Fjellu
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:47:00 -
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I'm doing missions for caldari.
There is only one missions I cannot do in my raven. That is the Infiltrated Outpost drone mission. Even that one is doable 3 out of 4 times, but that 4th time you get insta-agro from more than one group. No solo ship can tank that dmg from all those drones at once.
That said, I usually skip the multipart DS missions, they are not worth it considering isk / time invested.
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Mr Morph
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Posted - 2005.10.16 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Fjellu I'm doing missions for caldari.
There is only one missions I cannot do in my raven. That is the Infiltrated Outpost drone mission. Even that one is doable 3 out of 4 times, but that 4th time you get insta-agro from more than one group. No solo ship can tank that dmg from all those drones at once.
Not true if i may ;), i've done it several times in a GN Mega with this low slots setup: 2kin 2 therm 1x22.5 all 1x25%cpr 1xTS large rep 1xcentum med rep. After you warp in and get aggroed by whole stage you start running away (As soon as you stop bouncing:P) and so you're able to keep some distance between you and 5/6 supremes while getting rid of scrambler first and other smaller drones later.
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Adrastia
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Posted - 2005.10.18 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: vipeer To all those who claim that an Ishtar can withstand a full aggro it seems you dont fly it to those missions.
In Serpentis "Vengeance" you CANNOT tank the entire spawn on lvl1 even with 2*thermal and 1*kinetic hardeners wich push your resists to 90% and a T2 armor repper. You can though tank half of the spawn. But not indefinitely. Rescue the damsel spawn will PwN you in 1 minute after engaging even with apropriate tank. Angel extravaganza spawns will kill you if you dont kill them sooner. (not all though). You can roughly tank 3-4 long range BS and not worry about them or double that short range (provided you are orbiting one of the short rangers)
It's a trial and error thing. If you dont know what to expect saddle up a shuttle and scout it out ;)
Well I agree with you that its a trial and error thing eventually, but dont rush into conclusions. I can easily tank any serpentis spawn with my ishtar -even a full pocket. You just need the right setup, and ofc some good named mods. Damsel is more difficult yes. but also nps if you apply common sense and tactics.
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B0rn2KiLL
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Posted - 2005.10.22 17:33:00 -
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'no single ship', lets see u wiseasses (those who replied negativly to my post) tank 5 elite parasites, 12 violators, 5 swarm preservers, and a dingload of silverfish all at once for me while i maul the lvl with my raven. lets ee your tanks withstand all that EM\KEN\THERM damage all at once. and actually kill anything while ur at it if u even got enough room for guns with ur fancy tanking. --- When It Absolutely Positively Has To Be Desotroyed. |
Dethra
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Posted - 2005.10.23 00:56:00 -
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You can solo the lv4 Infiltrated outposts though... Warp in, don't shoot anything. Get away like 40km, then shoot one group. 2 will aggro; that being the two groups that have 3 supreme parasite drones between them. As I fly a typhoon, I run 4x hardeners (2x therm, 2x kin) and a T2 Large armor rep. (I can run all this continuously) Shoot the smaller drones as they close. If you keep flying away, many will not get in range to shoot and will just blink with yellow squares instead of reds. Kill those, then take out the BSes.
It took me a couple warp-outs, but I did it allright.
As far as tanking a whole pocket.. It is possiblle under certain circumstances, but not under all. There is probably no ship.set-up without elite skills that can tank an entire pocket for all circumstances, or even most circumstances.. dunno though.
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DrakeZakharov
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Posted - 2005.10.23 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: B0rn2KiLL 'no single ship', lets see u wiseasses (those who replied negativly to my post) tank 5 elite parasites, 12 violators, 5 swarm preservers, and a dingload of silverfish all at once for me while i maul the lvl with my raven. lets ee your tanks withstand all that EM\KEN\THERM damage all at once. and actually kill anything while ur at it if u even got enough room for guns with ur fancy tanking.
The ishtar is a special case on doing damage while tanked, since its drones are a major source of its firepower. :)
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.10.27 15:13:00 -
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ishtar can tank 5 guristas bs the upsurpers conqs with 1 small armor rep II with 3 cruisers shooting it i've done it with 2 thermic and 1 kin hardener and but I run my small rep II and med rep II I am sure it can tank way more ---------------------------------------------------
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Derrys
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Posted - 2005.10.27 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Fjellu There is only one missions I cannot do in my raven. That is the Infiltrated Outpost drone mission. Even that one is doable 3 out of 4 times, but that 4th time you get insta-agro from more than one group. No solo ship can tank that dmg from all those drones at once.
That one is easy in a Raven if you have the right setup. Equip for speed. With five Local Hull nanofibers and an afterburner, you can get out of range of the Supreme Drone Parasites in the second stage before they can break your tank, even if you aggro all of them at once.
Once you're out of range, you can easily stay there and pick off drones (both small and large) at your leisure with torpedoes (and your own drones, if you like).
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Toaster Oven
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Posted - 2005.10.28 19:41:00 -
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http://www.theupload.com/view.php?id=00000577 - Tanking 7 BS, 5 cruisers, and 14 elite frigs while sitting still http://www.theupload.com/view.php?id=00000578 - 3 min later. Look at how many hits are coming in per second! http://www.theupload.com/view.php?id=00000579 - After 8 min. Not even close to denting my tank. And this isn't even my tank setup...
Originally by: vipeer To all those who claim that an Ishtar can withstand a full aggro it seems you dont fly it to those missions.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.29 02:52:00 -
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"Juggernaut Torpedo I belonging to Unknown hits you, doing 9.7 damage"
^,^
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Don Elmus
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Posted - 2005.11.11 15:09:00 -
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Added: Tanked Dominix easily does 'Mordus Headhunters' & 'Silent the Informant' (few warp outs though)
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.11.11 18:29:00 -
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Can do any level 4 mission in a Mega solo.
Very skill dependant though.
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Grankor
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:37:00 -
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I solo lvl 4's in my raven.
I also have been around for over 2 years
There are 3 things that keep you alive in missions:
#1 is range. The farther, the better. #2 know your limits. Dont do AE bonus solo. #3 know the damage type, and tank ONLY that. Dont waste mod slots.
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Ricky Baby
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:54:00 -
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anyone manage to tank the lvl4 mercernry kill mission? (5 commanders - 6 wingmen - maybe a few others) and the Guristas transports? maybe i am doing em wrong but my domi with duel reps running solidly only just tanks while i have cap
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