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Maggeridon Thoraz
Reconfiguration Nation Existential Anxiety
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Posted - 2013.05.19 03:03:00 -
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see the this post https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3049605#post3049605 for the coming nerf not yet mentioned to us players... |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1855
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:59:00 -
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Good, that situation is/was ridiculas. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
233
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Posted - 2013.05.19 05:21:00 -
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hahahaha if specialized for exploration means a t3 in highsec, well just HUAHUAHUAHUHAUHUHA! You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Julius Priscus
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Posted - 2013.05.19 05:31:00 -
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good job and about freaking time that 3&4/10s stopped allowing t3 ships.
these can be run **** easy in hacs both of them. -»\_(pâä)_/-»-á Sup cracka ! |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
200
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Posted - 2013.05.19 06:40:00 -
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about time. |
marVLs
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Posted - 2013.05.19 07:48:00 -
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Soooo now only Ishtar, Sacrilage and Drake Navy for HS deds |
Lucretia DeWinter
Somali Coast Guard BootCamp
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Posted - 2013.05.19 08:00:00 -
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marVLs wrote:Soooo now only Ishtar, Sacrilage and Drake Navy etc for HS deds
What? A Caracal does just fine. These sites didn't allow BC hulls in the first place.
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marVLs
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Posted - 2013.05.19 08:18:00 -
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Lucretia DeWinter wrote:marVLs wrote:Soooo now only Ishtar, Sacrilage and Drake Navy etc for HS deds What? A Caracal does just fine. These sites didn't allow BC hulls in the first place.
Pretty sure BC are allowed on 4/10, or i'm wrong?
Yeah Caracal can do it fine so why peoples flying T3? Because it's easier and better, just tank everything, kill overseer, don't bother rest NPCs, and dat scanning bonus
With Ishtar, Sacri, Drake Navy You can fit them to perma tank full room, and have 2 free meds for scanning mods Like always players will find new king of HS deds ;)
Sad that my HS deds Legion will go RIP |
Dato Koppla
Rage of Inferno Malefic Motives
201
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Posted - 2013.05.19 08:44:00 -
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Yeah this needed to be done, it made the barrier to entry for these sites incredibly high as if you weren't in a T3 cruiser, chances are a T3 cruiser will come to your site and steal your loot as you watch helplessly.
BCs fit into 4/10s but 3/10s and Cruisers only if I'm not mistaken. |
Zappity
Kurved Space
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Posted - 2013.05.19 09:50:00 -
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Great, about time. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
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Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
90
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Posted - 2013.05.19 10:35:00 -
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Finally the T3 cruisers won't be the end all of ships for exploration. |
Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
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Posted - 2013.05.19 11:02:00 -
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marVLs wrote:Soooo now only Ishtar, Sacrilage and Drake Navy etc for HS deds
That, or Cov-Ops + DPS fit BC teams. |
Pacifyn
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.19 12:17:00 -
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I dont know, i honestly think that t3 were kinda made for exploration, so making them no longer usefull in hi-sec is kinda gay |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
426
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Posted - 2013.05.19 12:48:00 -
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Sleipnir is go :) German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Caljiav Ocanon
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Posted - 2013.05.19 12:48:00 -
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Pacifyn wrote:I dont know, i honestly think that t3 were kinda made for exploration, so making them no longer usefull in hi-sec is kinda gay
How on earth did you come to this conclusion?
Tech IIIs should probably be banned from HiSec... Something along the lines of the empires/concord not wanting their citizens to come in contact with sleeper tech would actually make more sense.
The tears would be delicious as they say.
-edit- I live in null so I could care less. Though I fly through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am aligned to a safespot and warping out. - Me 2013 |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
201
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Posted - 2013.05.19 12:57:00 -
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yes, high sec "exploration" where in empire space not every corner of those systems has been visited already
if it were up to me there wouldn't be any exploration sites in high sec at all. |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2013.05.19 13:55:00 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:Sleipnir is go :) Not very comfortable TBH, because 3/10 still restricted for BC/Command ships. Ishtar is go
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l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:18:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:l0rd carlos wrote:Sleipnir is go :) Not very comfortable TBH, because 3/10 still restricted for BC/Command ships. Ishtar is go
I never fly 3/10 German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
GreenSeed
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:28:00 -
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good change imho, t3s are exploration ships that's clear, but they weren't balanced on hsec, specially when vets were racing against newbs. and lets not forget that t3 were kings of exploration mainly due to the expanded probe launchers, which now are moot.
after the buffs to t1 hulls you could do those plexes with a caracal... so should they finally flag highsec sites for pvp no one will care for t1 hulls.
navy and pirate hulls are also fine for sites. for a good 6 months i lived off hsec explo and never used anything other than a gila. |
Mnemosyne Gloob
Acerbus Vindictum Stealth Wear Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:31:00 -
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Oh my, thats funny! I can't wait for the patch to actually roll out, the wide public to notice this and make rage filled posts including threats to unsub their tengu pilots.
Nevermind that other FOTM boats will be emerge quickly. Interesting also for the lowsec DED 4 sites, i would think. |
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Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
204
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:37:00 -
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more people encouraged to actually participate in non-high sec activities the more fun it is for me :3
to asplode them |
marVLs
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:44:00 -
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From what i see new kings of 3 and 4/10 DEDs in HS will be:
Cerberus for guristas and serpentis Sacrilage for angel (also good for serpentis) Onyx very good for angel, and (also super tanky) for guristas, serpentis ^Yeah HAMs rule again
And no love for amarr exploration again... Bad drops and no specially good ships for it like for other factions |
Tsukino Stareine
EVE University Ivy League
204
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:56:00 -
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Isn't Sacrilege amarr |
marVLs
156
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:59:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Isn't Sacrilege amarr
Yeah but You must consider highest base resists for certain rats, to not waste slots for additional resists etc |
SFM Hobb3s
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:14:00 -
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This will effectively change little. In short time you'll see it's exactly the same as it was before...perhaps I'll just be flying a different ship when your site gets jacked.
On the other hand, not allowing t3's into Ded's is going to make it much easier to kill whoever's in one. |
Zevv Kal'Jael
Risei e no shinrai
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:26:00 -
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hehe bann t3s out of highsec.. nice thing i love it. YEAH..
This easy one ship scanning making milliards in highsec never where a good idear. T3 are designed for WH and low/0.0 exploration and thats where they have to be. Not running highsec and make i impossible to do sites for non t3 pilots.
Rest of the changes.. i dont realy care about |
marVLs
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:57:00 -
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Zevv Kal'Jael wrote:hehe bann t3s out of highsec.. nice thing i love it. YEAH..
This easy one ship scanning making milliards in highsec never where a good idear. T3 are designed for WH and low/0.0 exploration and thats where they have to be. Not running highsec and make i impossible to do sites for non t3 pilots.
Rest of the changes.. i dont realy care about
Can i upset You?
Cerberus for serpentis/guristas: http://scr.hu/4s/x4x9b
Sacrilage for angel: http://scr.hu/4s/g3brf
Pimped but T3s scanning pilots don't regret ISK for thier ships. As You can see those ships thanks to new medium slot scanning mods would be theoretically not worse from T3s. Yeah sensor strenght is little weaker but better deviation (and You can change deviation mod for another sensor strenght so probes strenght would be like on T3s). Maybe tank and DPS is a little weaker than tengus but ship itself have more EHP (better protection from gank), it's not so expensive, and risking skill loss.
And thanks to scanning changes and sensor overlay everything gets even easier.
Yeah HACs and HDictors will get some rebalance love but everything suggest (even devs) that it won't be nerf.
Another case it's HS 4/10 DEDs and myth about tengus making billions on it... well it's totally bulls... on good regions there's big competition, scanning (before odyssey) is boring and takes time, and good drops are rare. Lvl4s and Incursions will give You more ISK.
Also met new king of WH scanning: http://scr.hu/4s/ugr42 |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
426
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:35:00 -
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Tengu will do better. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
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Posted - 2013.05.19 19:57:00 -
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Although i welcome the ban of T3s for DED 3/10 and 4/10 ... it won't change anything in high-sec. The problem lies mainly in the horrible "balance" of modules and game mechanics. Of course i'm talking about useless and therefore worthless modules like passive armor resi mods (except EANMSs), worthless blood raider pirate imps, worthless NOS mods and energy transfers. EANMS and repper being the only valuable mods. Nobodys earns big money in Amarr high-sec. Gallente and Minmatar space is ok ... they have a good bunch of great modules and pirate imps. But the king of the hill - as always - is Caldari space. There is indeed a lot of money to be made. How long does it take to run a DED 4/10 complex in a T3? I don't know but i DO know, that it's only 10-15 minutes in an ordinary fitted all-in-one Ishtar. For peoples staying always in high-sec, a gank fitted ship is even faster.
When i was a noob long long ago i was doing DED 3/10 and 4/10 static complexes in low-sec ... in my comedy fitted Vexor competing against pirates (and losing most of the time - either my ship or the run for the loot^^) .
LOL@ "but ... but ... we specialized in high-sec exploration - we can't do that without our pimp fitted T3s..." It's like being a pr0 swimmer in a beginner pool.
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Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
109
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Posted - 2013.05.19 21:30:00 -
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Pacifyn wrote:I dont know, i honestly think that t3 were kinda made for exploration, so making them no longer usefull in hi-sec is kinda gay
What do you mean by saying it is "kinda gay"? I wish I were a cat. That way, I could kill things and people would applaud - instead of screaming out "OH GOD NO, NOT MY DAUGHTER!" |
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