CS and T3 command bonus changes will not be included in Odyssey, although they are still on our roadmap.

When we have any timelines to report we'll report them, in the meantime all I can say is that it will happen sometime between now and the end of time. Very likely closer to now than to the end of time, but those things are hard to be certain about.

When we have any timelines to report we'll report them, in the meantime all I can say is that it will happen sometime between now and the end of time.

When we have any timelines to report we'll report them, in the meantime all I can say is that it will happen sometime between now and the end of time. Very likely closer to now than to the end of time, but those things are hard to be certain about.

Is it beyond the point where it's worth the player's time discussing options on the forums? Or would the devs still like us to drag our opinions out in to the harsh light of day and have at it like civilised gentlebeings?

Discuss away.

Is it beyond the point where it's worth the player's time discussing options on the forums? Or would the devs still like us to drag our opinions out in to the harsh light of day and have at it like civilised gentlebeings?

:) so what is the hold up with offgrid boosting?..... surely putting a range on links would solve the problem ... like a bubble effect

:) so what is the hold up with offgrid boosting?..... surely putting a range on links would solve the problem ... like a bubble effect

A little bit of input from a former Rorqual pilot:
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Capital Industrial Ships skill bonuses:
10% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman gang links per level when in deployed mode
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So, whenever you make an adjustment to off-grid boosting, that is something to adjust as well.

Why?
In contrast to Carriers and Dreadnoughts which are (mostly) supported by a sub-capital combat fleet,
Rorquals only have mining barges and exhumers as support.
Hence, requiring the "deployed mode" might lead to Orcas providing gang boost in fleet,
instead of the ship designed to that best.

From my point of view:
Dropping the "deployed mode" will improve the chances of Rorquals boosting on-grid of asteroid belts.

Just my 2 cents ... no argument pro/contra off-grid boosting

I imagine that the difference is that a bubble effect only has to be checked every time a player tries to warp but links are a persistent effect and would have to be constantly checked to ensure range. This is probably okay for small numbers, but once you get 500 ships on a grid (or even in a system) then you have to check range for every ship at some high rate, meaning lots more operations that have to hit the server.

I also imagine they've thought of this, but maybe it could work sort of like a smartbomb effect but with a bigger effect radius and just happen once every 15 seconds or something.

Or maybe the check could happen upon landing on a grid or when a booster activates or deactivates (including when initiating warp) the link and then persists until the next check.

The guys at CCP are smart and I expect they'll figure it out in time without causing time dilation in systems with only 2 ships in space.

When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.

So I do honestly welcome people's cool ideas about what form gang links could take. Don't limit yourself to small changes to the status quo, because it turns out with this system small changes aren't necessarily any faster to implement than off the wall changes.

When we have any timelines to report we'll report them, in the meantime all I can say is that it will happen sometime between now and the end of time. Very likely closer to now than to the end of time, but those things are hard to be certain about.

Your thoughts and words are correct and intelligent.

Once the underlying code finishes getting rewritten from the ground up we'll have plenty of options for how to apply links in interesting ways that create interesting gameplay experiences. At the moment we don't have any of those options.

So I do honestly welcome people's cool ideas about what form gang links could take. Don't limit yourself to small changes to the status quo, because it turns out with this system small changes aren't necessarily any faster to implement than off the wall changes.

It's a performance optimization problem. We could turn on range-based boosting in Odyssey but it would melt all the servers.

And this isn't being delayed by Odyssey, the team working on the underlying code that will make ongrid boosting possible (along with many other things) isn't releasing anything in Odyssey. It's just that big of a project.

So like I said before, at some point CCP Veritas will make all my ganglink-related dreams come true but I honestly do not know when that point will be. When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.