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YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
0
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Posted - 2013.05.23 08:55:00 -
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SO I am COMPLETELY green on EVE, I started to play on Monday, and one thing I am really pleased about is how friendly and helpful (most of) the players are! I have been streaming most of my playtime, and people show up and tell me all kinds of cool things in the stream chat. I pretty much learned most of the stuff I know now from them(creds!). They have been showing me good loadouts for my ship, how I should skill up for different things, and I would also like to thank all of the people that have been donating ISK to me, I know that 10 mill isn't that much for someone who has been playing for a good while, but I appreciate it alot! I really REALLY like the way you basically can start with any race and background and just skill your way up to anything, but I think that many newbies like me will waste allot of time on skills that you in the end, will never use. With that being said I still got the impression that you will get the skills that are more or less appropriate for you(and your missions) trough the mission line you choose. which is pretty brilliant if you are a lonely newbie like me! The way that you receive missions is actually pretty brilliant (at least on my level), as those who are looking for lore and a story can read trough all the stuff that agents tell you before missions, while people like me, who just follow orders can skim trough the objectives, undock, warp to the location, do the mission, go back and complete it.
EVE is a game with so much content and so much to learn! I constantly learn to do new things, and that feeling you get when you master something new; dayum gurl! I think that all in all EVE gets a lot less credits as a game than it actually deserves, because even though I haven't been playing this game much at all, I still enjoy every second of my game time! I think one of the only things that are pulling this game down is that it is really hard for newbies like me to get into how the gameplay works and the different mechanics. There are tutorials, but I just found them confusing, so I relied on help from people I know, and it has worked out pretty good for me this far. I am without doubt hooked on this game and I look forward to play, learn and have more fun in the future! O7! (I seriously hope i used o7 right this time) |

Danni stark
350
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Posted - 2013.05.23 08:57:00 -
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1) don't fly what you can't afford to lose. 2) trust nobody.
righty with those two sage pieces of advice out of the way, as you were. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |

baltec1
Bat Country
6598
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Posted - 2013.05.23 08:59:00 -
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I think we should keep this one. |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
1
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Posted - 2013.05.23 09:06:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:1) don't fly what you can't afford to lose. 2) trust nobody.
righty with those two sage pieces of advice out of the way, as you were. The first thing that popped up in my my chat, the second one, I do take a lot of advice from other players, but I usually think it over before I bo anything that might be stupid. And the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" one is pretty obvious, I would never want to risk my most valuable equipment, or fly around in lowsec with 1000 plex... But thanks for the reminder!  |

pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
1205
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Posted - 2013.05.23 09:18:00 -
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welcome to the only MMO where other players care for you , even when they blow up your ship first
my advice , learn what the game has to offer and choose your career path you want to follow and do not let others tell you , you need to play the game their way
have fun I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
2
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Posted - 2013.05.23 09:27:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:welcome to the only MMO where other players care for you , even when they blow up your ship first
my advice , learn what the game has to offer and choose your career path you want to follow and do not let others tell you , you need to play the game their way
have fun Thanks for the advice! I will eventually choose one path, but right now I'm all about trying different stuff. It's a little like elementary school, where you try all kinds of stuff before you go on to specializing in one thing.. (at least that's how I like to think about it) I also realized that I posted this with my first character, which I halfway abandoned so I could make a new one another place to play with my friends, but it does not really matter that much. |

ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
538
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Posted - 2013.05.23 09:32:00 -
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YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Danni stark wrote:1) don't fly what you can't afford to lose. 2) trust nobody.
righty with those two sage pieces of advice out of the way, as you were. The first thing that popped up in my my chat, the second one, I do take a lot of advice from other players, but I usually think it over before I bo anything that might be stupid. And the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" one is pretty obvious, I would never want to risk my most valuable equipment, or fly around in lowsec with 1000 plex... But thanks for the reminder! 
If something looks too good to be true... its worse, a lot worse. Be it an item on the market, or a short cut... prepare for the worse and then remember theres prob something you've forgotten. - Nulla Curas |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
2
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Posted - 2013.05.23 09:38:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Danni stark wrote:1) don't fly what you can't afford to lose. 2) trust nobody.
righty with those two sage pieces of advice out of the way, as you were. The first thing that popped up in my my chat, the second one, I do take a lot of advice from other players, but I usually think it over before I bo anything that might be stupid. And the "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" one is pretty obvious, I would never want to risk my most valuable equipment, or fly around in lowsec with 1000 plex... But thanks for the reminder!  If something looks too good to be true... its worse, a lot worse. Be it an item on the market, or a short cut... prepare for the worse and then remember theres prob something you've forgotten.
Point taken! I am pretty skeptical of nature, so I'll trust my gut feeling. I know that there is a lot of bullshit scams on the market, so I usually double check prices too. |

Velicitia
Nex Exercitus
1565
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Posted - 2013.05.23 10:10:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I think we should keep this one.
agreed. OP, you'll do alright here. Might even go far and be one of the "big names" with that attitude. (and yes, you got the salute right -- though no need for a capital 'o' or the exclamation mark ) One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
2
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Posted - 2013.05.23 10:20:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:baltec1 wrote:I think we should keep this one. agreed. OP, you'll do alright here. Might even go far and be one of the "big names" with that attitude. (and yes, you got the salute right -- though no need for a capital 'o' or the exclamation mark  ) Thanks! I don't know about the big name part, but I'l just go on in my own pace and take things as they occur. One thing is for sure, people who don't play EVE don't know what they are missing. I actually feel like EVE is a bit like Minecraft was in alpha/early beta. The people that play are way to addicted(mostly in a good way), and those who have heard of the game but don't play it them selves tend to call it ******** out of pure ignorance. |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
249
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Posted - 2013.05.23 10:25:00 -
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Good luck new bro, and welcome to EVE!
Should you ever feel the urge to try out the darker side of EVE, give me, or anyone in CODE. a buzz. We'll be more than happy to take you under wing, and teach the fine art of suicide ganking and tear extraction!
Don't forget, if you mine, buy a permit! Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
2
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Posted - 2013.05.23 10:29:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Good luck new bro, and welcome to EVE!
Should you ever feel the urge to try out the darker side of EVE, give me, or anyone in CODE. a buzz. We'll be more than happy to take you under wing, and teach the fine art of suicide ganking and tear extraction!
Don't forget, if you mine, buy a permit!
Will do! I have no plans of any pvp action just yet, as I am still working on getting familiar with the game, but I'll give you a buzz when I am getting to that! Thanks for the offer! |

Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2013.05.23 10:35:00 -
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Welcome to the jungle.
To go with the first replies advice, if something looks and sounds to good to be true, it is.
Learn to jog before you can run with the big boys and girls in low sec, and don't take the first shot in pvp. |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
249
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Posted - 2013.05.23 10:37:00 -
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Also, since you seem to be watching dis thread, I made yo wallet go blink blink. Make sure to lose that in a glorious and fun way! Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Garresh
Team Chicken and Waffles
208
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:12:00 -
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Mandatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMSjd6HNQdY
Glad you're having fun. Eve is a game that only gets better the more you play. This Space Intentionally Left Blank |

Danni stark
353
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:15:00 -
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YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:if you mine, buy a permit!  Will do!
for your sake, i hope this is sarcasm. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
250
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:27:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:if you mine, buy a permit!  Will do! for your sake, i hope this is sarcasm.
Pretty sure that was a "Will do" regarding learning the fine art of ganking and tear extraction.
We tend to give the legit newbros a little bit of time before we really encourage and demonstrate the benefits of holding a valid permit. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Gealbhan
204
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:40:00 -
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EvE is truly a sandbox and what you make of it. I find people that get bored and quit EvE are just boring people  |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
510
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:40:00 -
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I think part of what makes Eve confusing is the option paralysis that new players can suffer from. You can do anything and so its fun to try out everything; this leads to a pilot who can fly everything poorly and has 5 million SP's that are all over the place, also too much time spent balancing faction standings imho.
Once you finish the Sisters Epic "Blood Stained Stars" You might want to consider picking a race and sort of focusing on it. This will limit the amount of material that you have to take in and make your skill path much more clear. Faction kill missions pay better and they are a bit more interesting because they get into the back story of the wars between the empires. And it will help you create a bit of backstory about your own character, this is useful because it creates a buffer between you and your character that will help to limit feedback from the game.
There's a youtube series called "lets play eve online by DrOgres" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrMoHNXiCEI here is the first one, it says episode 2, he deleted 1 because it didnt come out well. Its done by a player who has been playing for a while and decided to start a new character from scratch with no material help from his main. It has some great insights into the game and definitely introduces a game that is better than what the tutorials present.
Most players themselves are very friendly, try not to talk to too many people in game and make lots of freinds, Eve isn't actually about being nice to one another.
Best of luck -áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |

Akali Kuvakei
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:44:00 -
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Enjoy, and I hope you become bitter soon. |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
4
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:54:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:[quote=Lady Areola Fappington]if you mine, buy a permit!  Will do!
for your sake, i hope this is sarcasm.[/quoFappington is right, I meant that I would contack him/her if I wanted to learn more about ganking etc.  |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
4
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Posted - 2013.05.23 11:57:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Also, since you seem to be watching dis thread, I made yo wallet go blink blink. Make sure to lose that in a glorious and fun way! I'll buy some exotic dancers once I get home from work! Thank you so much! |

Just Lilly
75
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:24:00 -
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Clearly deluded...
They only seem friendly now, before you know it, your shiny Nightmare Battleship, your crownjewl, either..
1.Get blown up by one of your trusted friends 2.Change ownership, without your knowledge or consent while you sleep 3.Gets sold through a contract in Jita by misstake for 2.000.000.00 isk
It's just a matter of time... Powered by Nvidia GTX 690 |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
5
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:31:00 -
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Just Lilly wrote:Clearly deluded...  They only seem friendly now, before you know it, your shiny Nightmare Battleship, your crownjewl, either.. 1.Get blown up by one of your trusted friends 2.Change ownership, without your knowledge or consent while you sleep 3.Gets sold through a contract in Jita by misstake for 2.000.000.00 isk It's just a matter of time... LOL, that would be the worst day in my entire life! Only one mistake there, I won't be flying something thats more valuable than I can afford to lose..  |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
5
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:33:00 -
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Akali Kuvakei wrote:Enjoy, and I hope you become bitter soon. I hope to god that I won't get bitter, as bitterness usually is the result of something bad happening..  |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
249
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:33:00 -
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Come to Providence, join the good fight!
[Gotta recruit em young, dont judge me!] |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9531
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:37:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I think we should keep this one.
Agreed.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9531
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:38:00 -
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YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Akali Kuvakei wrote:Enjoy, and I hope you become bitter soon. I hope to god that I won't get bitter, as bitterness usually is the result of something bad happening.. 
"Bad" things will happen to you during your EVE play.
But the more expensive the lesson, the better it is learned.
1 Kings 12:11
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YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
6
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:40:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Akali Kuvakei wrote:Enjoy, and I hope you become bitter soon. I hope to god that I won't get bitter, as bitterness usually is the result of something bad happening..  "Bad" things will happen to you during your EVE play. But the more expensive the lesson, the better it is learned. I was just trying to be enthusiastic for once!  |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1903
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:43:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:baltec1 wrote:I think we should keep this one. Agreed.
I disagree, he's obviously not EVE material as he did not instantly do stupid things that were his own ignorant fault then come here and post multiple threads about how the GAME stinks and should be changed.
We have standards here in New Eden damn it.
(once again, screw your sarcasm meters and yo couch, playa).
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Ranzabar
Aliastra Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:44:00 -
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It's more fun than watching Two Broke Girls. Abide |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
7
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:47:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:Come to Providence, join the good fight!
[Gotta recruit em young, dont judge me!] Haha, I might just do that, but in due time. Right now I am working on my basic mechanics, and I do that with a couple of my AFK friends(so I can know that they won't turn around and kill me on sight). I might convo you iwhen I'm ready though.  |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
7
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:49:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Malcanis wrote:baltec1 wrote:I think we should keep this one. Agreed. I disagree, he's obviously not EVE material as he did not instantly do stupid things that were his own ignorant fault then come here and post multiple threads about how the GAME stinks and should be changed. We have standards here in New Eden damn it. (once again, screw your sarcasm meters and yo couch, playa). What did I do wrong?  |

Kain Bodom
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
7
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Posted - 2013.05.23 12:54:00 -
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Trust no one!
Take a minute, think that over and carve it into the wall by your computer. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8402
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:06:00 -
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Wooo fresh meat. Welcome to Eve.
I eat your hatred for breakfast, then wash it down with your tears. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
1903
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:24:00 -
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YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Malcanis wrote:baltec1 wrote:I think we should keep this one. Agreed. I disagree, he's obviously not EVE material as he did not instantly do stupid things that were his own ignorant fault then come here and post multiple threads about how the GAME stinks and should be changed. We have standards here in New Eden damn it. (once again, screw your sarcasm meters and yo couch, playa). What did I do wrong? 
You didn't complain about anything or throw a tantrum or threaten to unsub 70 accounts so CCP will go bankrupt unless they turn the game into your own personal theme park. That'show we do things around here son and we don't like your kind, you know the "smart" and"reasonable" kind, y'all don't belong here, EVE is a trailer park in space.
On the bright side, you sure do got a pretty mouth, so based on that I guess you can stay.
(also, train sarcasm detection to 5, it's an important skill). |
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CCP Sisyphus
C C P C C P Alliance
487

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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:29:00 -
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welcome aboard! Enjoy your stay in New Eden, we like fresh blood^^^^^^^^^ new recruits here... :)
Bur seriously, go explore, talk to others (even when they blow you up.. especially then), ask for pointers, get involved.
And most importantly - have fun with whatever you are doing! CCP Sisyphus | Team PE | Team Klang | @CCP_Sisyphus |
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YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
7
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:31:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Malcanis wrote:baltec1 wrote:I think we should keep this one. Agreed. I disagree, he's obviously not EVE material as he did not instantly do stupid things that were his own ignorant fault then come here and post multiple threads about how the GAME stinks and should be changed. We have standards here in New Eden damn it. (once again, screw your sarcasm meters and yo couch, playa). What did I do wrong?  You didn't complain about anything or throw a tantrum or threaten to unsub 70 accounts so CCP will go bankrupt unless they turn the game into your own personal theme park. That'show we do things around here son and we don't like your kind, you know the "smart" and"reasonable" kind, y'all don't belong here, EVE is a trailer park in space. On the bright side, you sure do got a pretty mouth, so based on that I guess you can stay. (also, train sarcasm detection to 5, it's an important skill). Ah, I know, I'm no good with sarcasm. |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
7
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:34:00 -
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CCP Sisyphus wrote:welcome aboard! Enjoy your stay in New Eden, we like fresh blood^^^^^^^^^ new recruits here... :)
Bur seriously, go explore, talk to others (even when they blow you up.. especially then), ask for pointers, get involved.
And most importantly - have fun with whatever you are doing! Good points, and believe me, I am almost having too much fun already! |

poppeteer
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.05.23 13:52:00 -
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YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Good points, and believe me, I am almost having too much fun already! 
Y...N o7 |

Ankh
Angel Constellation
27
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Posted - 2013.05.23 14:27:00 -
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YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote: stuff.... I think that all in all EVE gets a lot less credits as a game than it actually deserves...stuff
shhh... keep the secret.
Welcome aboard Yay.
Re: the friendliness, NEVER NEVER NEVER drop your guard. Enjoy playing with others but trust no-one. I have several in-game friendships that have lasted for amny years, but have lost many more. When you've been betrayed by an in-game friend of two years, when you've lost your ship to a corp-mate who turned up to a mining op in a pvp fitted combat vessel, then you know you are in EVE.
The trick for survival is to see this as all part of the game. If you get emotional about this sort of stuff, then you'll end up emo-rage-quitting like thousands of others who couldn't stand the heat and the pain.
Ankh
Veteran of the Coalition of Free Stars Alliance-áand The Big Blue.
CALDARI MEN ARE BORING! -á-á-áMatari girls always give the best pew-pew. |

Corey Fumimasa
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
511
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Posted - 2013.05.23 14:28:00 -
[42] - Quote
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Malcanis wrote:baltec1 wrote:I think we should keep this one. Agreed. I disagree, he's obviously not EVE material as he did not instantly do stupid things that were his own ignorant fault then come here and post multiple threads about how the GAME stinks and should be changed. We have standards here in New Eden damn it. (once again, screw your sarcasm meters and yo couch, playa). What did I do wrong? 
You presented a nice face that people would like and then came to a public place seeking approval for that LCD definition. In Eve it is far more important to be able to set your own values, both on others and for yourself.
-áKick ass soundtrack and Eve Pewpew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvc4KljpRGI |

Captain Africa
GRIM MARCH
37
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Posted - 2013.05.23 14:44:00 -
[43] - Quote
Yea and when you do.. RAGE QUIT... one day , can I have your stuff ..? |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2492
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Posted - 2013.05.23 14:52:00 -
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The space part of the game is okay, but the real fun is here in the forum.
This is where you'll spend most of your time while mining, waiting for the fleet to form up, gate camping, waiting out a COSMOS spawn, etc.
It can be a dangerous place here with real consequences for what you say. Best to dedicate an alt for it as a mistake here often gets you blown up in game.
A few general rules: 1) Never assume any post is serious. 2) Never start a thread unless you like abuse. 3) A quality troll is often rewarded but a bad one gets the locator agents working. 4) Never argue with Tippia unless you have a full day to waste. 5) Likes mean nothing. You need to learn who's a **** or not through exposure and experience.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Dring Dingle
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
28
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Posted - 2013.05.23 14:56:00 -
[45] - Quote
The biggest mistake I made when starting eve was trying to go it alone. Didn't wanna join a player corp and I wanted to do things by myself.
I quit after a week and a half.
I came back 6 months later and cautiously decided to join a corp. almost 2 years later I'm still flying with a lot if them :D
Just remember, you and this community create the interesting content ;) The game is there to facilitate that creation :D
o7
Dringy |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
173
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Posted - 2013.05.23 15:07:00 -
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Welcome!
Re the "Never trust anyone", while that is very true, Eve players are also generally very helpful and patient (Always some exceptions though).
We like having new blood, and most of the things people get stuck with are things which are fairly simple for us old grumpy people to explain. Also, it makes us all nostalgic for when we were naive and starry eyed.
Generally, as long as you are not "OMG Can haz isk pl0x" or "Tell me exactly how to do X", then we are quite helpful!
As others have said, Player corps are a good way to get involved in the game, and finding what you like doing is important. Many people get put off by the lack of obvious guidance in what to do next, and that is the beauty of eve.....do whatever you want.
Want to throw cheap ships crazily at people in high sec? Go for it Want to fill a station hangar in each station with Veldspar? If thats what you have fun doing, why not! Want to get max standing with all corps in a faction? You are crazy, but why not! Want to sit in a station chatting all day while your wallet flashes? Do it! Want to run around causing havoc in wormholes? Thats fine too
And any number of things you can think of. One awesome thing about Eve Players is their ingenuity, even the terrible ideas which crash and burn in days are out of the box. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4180
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Posted - 2013.05.23 15:12:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:1) don't fly what you can't afford to lose. 2) trust nobody.
righty with those two sage pieces of advice out of the way, as you were.
While Danni's first point is spot on (of course), the second point is a bit misleading.
Many players live by the credo "Trust no one" and that's fine.
However if you want to eventually become a move and a shaker in the EvE universe the focus should instead be on "Learn to sort out the few people you CAN trust, and how far you can trust each one."
Unless you master this skill you'll have great difficulty making a large impact in game (if that is your goal). You'll learn the names of those who have soon enough.  To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Your Royal Highness
Mohawk Campers
12
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Posted - 2013.05.23 15:16:00 -
[48] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:The space part of the game is okay, but the real fun is here in the forum. This is where you'll spend most of your time while mining, waiting for the fleet to form up, gate camping, waiting out a COSMOS spawn, etc. It can be a dangerous place here with real consequences for what you say. Best to dedicate an alt for it as a mistake here often gets you blown up in game. A few general rules: 1) Never assume any post is serious.2) Never start a thread unless you like abuse. 3) A quality troll is often rewarded but a bad one gets the locator agents working.4) Never argue with Tippia unless you have a full day to waste. 5) Likes mean nothing. You need to learn who's a **** or not through exposure and experience. Mr Epeen 
So did you assume that this post is serious, or are you rewarding the quality troll?  We are not amused... |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
12
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Posted - 2013.05.23 15:24:00 -
[49] - Quote
I like this one.
He's pretty. "You designed these rules to trick me and it's not fair! I don't have anything left and might as well quit now..."-á-á-Authorized Pixel Distributor
Tell The Others |

Helios Aquiness
The Rising Stars Academy
7
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Posted - 2013.05.23 15:30:00 -
[50] - Quote
I said once before that EVE is a game where you will find the most loyal of friends and the most dispicable of lowlifes. There are people, iv met a guy who Im confident I could trust a contract of 10 plex with no colatoral and others that I wouldnt give a rookie ship to.
As far as skills go, my advice is to get the skills that are named after the catagory, (IE the electronics skill under the electronics catagory) all to 5. Not only do they only take a few days each to max out but they cover a wide area of play and they unlock quite a few advance skills. |

Ryu Ibarazaki
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
73
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Posted - 2013.05.23 15:38:00 -
[51] - Quote
Mmmm a happy thread of an adorable newbie. Feast bitter vets, feast. Drink in the optimism and become young again.
Also, welcome to EVE OP; you've got a great attitude. |

Hamatitio
Aperture Harmonics K162
109
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Posted - 2013.05.23 16:06:00 -
[52] - Quote
I've given you some moneys.
While it may seem like a lot, It goes quick. It's yours of course, but if you listen to some advice:
Don't go spend it on 1 ship and die hilariously in it :P.
Unless that sounds fun to you, :D. |

Danni stark
359
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Posted - 2013.05.23 16:08:00 -
[53] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Danni stark wrote:1) don't fly what you can't afford to lose. 2) trust nobody.
righty with those two sage pieces of advice out of the way, as you were. While Danni's first point is spot on (of course), the second point is a bit misleading. Many players live by the credo "Trust no one" and that's fine. However if you want to eventually become a mover and a shaker in the EvE universe the focus should instead be on "Learn to sort out the few people you CAN trust, and how far you can trust each one." Unless you master this skill you'll have great difficulty making a large impact in game (if that is your goal). You'll learn the names of those who have soon enough. 
it's not paranoia if they are out to get me! Ice Mining Skill Plan. |

Mission Domino
End-of-Line
2
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Posted - 2013.05.23 16:53:00 -
[54] - Quote
Everyone will say that you can't trust anyone. You can, however, trust me. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
8469
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:08:00 -
[55] - Quote
Mission Domino wrote:Everyone will say that you can't trust anyone. You can, however, trust me, as far as you can spit me FTFY
I eat your hatred for breakfast, then wash it down with your tears. |

Slutvana Khorkina
University of Caille Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:17:00 -
[56] - Quote
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote: Will do! I have no plans of any pvp action just yet, as I am still working on getting familiar with the game, but I'll give you a buzz when I am getting to that! Thanks for the offer!
When you undock, and some times even in station, you are already PvP'ing. Just because you don't seek it out, doesn't mean it won't seek you out. Remember that you always be PvP'ing and you'll be much happier in New Eden. "Imagine the kind of stories people would read about EVE if the carebears got their wish. 'In EVE Online, some people mined. They arranged their mining lasers, and then they did something else for several minutes. Sign up for your free 14 day trial now!'" -- James 315 |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
16
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Posted - 2013.05.23 17:25:00 -
[57] - Quote
Thank you all for all the Welcome messages! I lol'd pretty hard when I saw some of them! I'm already pretty familiar with the trust stuff, but I'll keep it in mind! And by the way, I would actually love to buy an expensive ship and fly around with 20 plex inside! I think that that must be a pretty good strategy for making new friends! |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
16
|
Posted - 2013.05.23 17:26:00 -
[58] - Quote
Slutvana Khorkina wrote:YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote: Will do! I have no plans of any pvp action just yet, as I am still working on getting familiar with the game, but I'll give you a buzz when I am getting to that! Thanks for the offer! When you undock, and some times even in station, you are already PvP'ing. Just because you don't seek it out, doesn't mean it won't seek you out. Remember that you always be PvP'ing and you'll be much happier in New Eden. I'll keep that in mind, but I was thinking more about seeking out lowsec and losing my best ship because I'm a noob kind of situations |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
16
|
Posted - 2013.05.23 17:32:00 -
[59] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:The space part of the game is okay, but the real fun is here in the forum. This is where you'll spend most of your time while mining, waiting for the fleet to form up, gate camping, waiting out a COSMOS spawn, etc. It can be a dangerous place here with real consequences for what you say. Best to dedicate an alt for it as a mistake here often gets you blown up in game. A few general rules: 1) Never assume any post is serious. 2) Never start a thread unless you like abuse. 3) A quality troll is often rewarded but a bad one gets the locator agents working. 4) Never argue with Tippia unless you have a full day to waste. 5) Likes mean nothing. You need to learn who's a **** or not through exposure and experience. Mr Epeen  Good points, I'll think about the alt thing too, if it is that dangerous to hang out here. Thanks for the tips! |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
16
|
Posted - 2013.05.23 17:35:00 -
[60] - Quote
Mission Domino wrote:Everyone will say that you can't trust anyone. You can, however, trust me. My spider sense is tingling, are you telling the truth? |

Helios Aquiness
The Rising Stars Academy
8
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:14:00 -
[61] - Quote
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Mission Domino wrote:Everyone will say that you can't trust anyone. You can, however, trust me. My spider sense is tingling, are you telling the truth? 
"A Dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest...its the honest ones you have to watch out for." - Jack Sparrow |

Draqone an'Alreigh
EVE University Ivy League
50
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:37:00 -
[62] - Quote
I am also a new players and quite enjoying the game. Only joined 2 months ago. I actually am thinking of writing a guide (while all that is still fresh for me) on stuff that new players might need to know and that are not explained clear enough anywhere - i just don't have the time right now.
Right now I am using my spare time to give feedback on new features aimed at new players. Inducing the proliferation of common sense throughout EVE Official forums since April 27th, 2013. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1808
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Posted - 2013.05.23 19:46:00 -
[63] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Akali Kuvakei wrote:Enjoy, and I hope you become bitter soon. I hope to god that I won't get bitter, as bitterness usually is the result of something bad happening..  "Bad" things will happen to you during your EVE play. But the more expensive the lesson, the better it is learned. Yah. You *will* get ganked. Repeatedly. Don't whinge about it on the fora - that only attracts trolls. Unless you*like* troll-baiting. In which case, have t it! 
When you do get ganked, try to figure out why/how it happened, and which mistakes you made. Sometimes, there's literally nothing you could've done better, but most often, you've left yourself open in some manner. Learn how to use those lessons against others. 
Don't post complaints about moderation here in the fora. CCP's responses to petitions can be... Slow. But no one here can help you with that, it won't speed up the process, and you will, again, attract trolls.
Carry on smartly! Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Ekhss Nihilo
Ideal Machine
6
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Posted - 2013.05.23 20:21:00 -
[64] - Quote
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:pussnheels wrote:welcome to the only MMO where other players care for you , even when they blow up your ship first
my advice , learn what the game has to offer and choose your career path you want to follow and do not let others tell you , you need to play the game their way
have fun Thanks for the advice! I will eventually choose one path, but right now I'm all about trying different stuff. It's a little like elementary school, where you try all kinds of stuff before you go on to specializing in one thing.. (at least that's how I like to think about it) I also realized that I posted this with my first character, which I halfway abandoned so I could make a new one another place to play with my friends, but it does not really matter that much. I'm a new EVE citizen - less than three weeks into it. In a purely practical sense, I recommend doing ALL of the tutorial missions. One the key things you'll get from them is a fair grasp of game mechanics and 'how do I do X'. The life of your ship will often hang on how well you are able to manage your weapons load-outs, their associated ammunition and the general fit of your ship.
Maneuver is vital. It's easy to warp into a location, get fascinated by what's going on and realize too late that you're not moving and have thus become a sitting duck. There's a fine art to kiting - keeping your ship at a certain distance that favors your weapons load-out and capabilities versus over your opponents. And then there's the lesson of learning NOT to orbit one opponent only to orbit into range of another.
I get the impression that mastering these essentials will allow you to punch well above your weight, a premise I have yet to really test.
Good luck with your endeavors in this remarkable universe. It's your story to tell. "The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180)
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Barbelo Valentinian
Justified Chaos
362
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Posted - 2013.05.23 21:55:00 -
[65] - Quote
Good stuff.
And for God's sake - KEEP YOUR CLONE UP TO DATE!!! |

Northern Misfit
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.05.23 22:22:00 -
[66] - Quote
There are a great deal of players who will give you advice, even after they've blown you up, especially if you ask. I've lost count of the number of conversations I've watched in local between players about what went wrong, or how a simple mod change could have changed an outcome.
Don't feed the trolls - although for those of us who lurk here while we're supposed to be working, sometimes watching is great fun. Especially when the internet lawyers fight it out with the real lawyers, that is great sport!
I will babysit your stuff for you while you're gone, all contributions to my ship replacement program are-ásubject to being exploded on the undock
-á |
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CCP Sisyphus
C C P C C P Alliance
491

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Posted - 2013.05.23 23:39:00 -
[67] - Quote
I was always fond of the saying: -ö-+-¦-¦-Ç-Å-¦, -+-+ -+-Ç-+-¦-¦-Ç-Å-¦
Trust, but verify CCP Sisyphus | Team PE | Team Klang | @CCP_Sisyphus |
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Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
624
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Posted - 2013.05.23 23:49:00 -
[68] - Quote
Glad you are having fun, OP.
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Mirima Thurander
650
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Posted - 2013.05.24 00:06:00 -
[69] - Quote
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:....Snip...
Start PVPing as soon as you can reliably afford to lose frig's over and over. All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel. |

Ha Hakoke
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 04:27:00 -
[70] - Quote
Older players will try to duel then gank you...not always in that order. |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
27
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 07:45:00 -
[71] - Quote
Again, thank you everyone! So many good pieces of advice in this thread!
Quote:There are a great deal of players who will give you advice, even after they've blown you up This is actually a pretty common thing in other games with a good community too. Gotta love it! 
Quote:Start PVPing as soon as you can reliably afford to lose frig's over and over. That might be a good way for some players, but I still prefer to have a better knowledge about the game before I start PvPing on my own initiative. Especially when I can't analyze what I'm doing wrong with my current understanding of the game.
Quote:I was always fond of the saying: -ö-+-¦-¦-Ç-Å-¦, -+-+ -+-Ç-+-¦-¦-Ç-Å-¦
Trust, but verify You didn't happen to drop by my stream yesterday and put that in the chat? I remember someone writing something in cyrillic letters.
Quote:I am also a new players and quite enjoying the game. Only joined 2 months ago. I actually am thinking of writing a guide (while all that is still fresh for me) on stuff that new players might need to know and that are not explained clear enough anywhere - i just don't have the time right now.
Right now I am using my spare time to give feedback on new features aimed at new players. That's awesome! Keep up the good work mate, I could probably help you out if want a newbie to test in on when you get there!
Quote:Don't whinge about it on the fora - that only attracts trolls. Unless you*like* troll-baiting. In which case, have t it!
I'll try to avoid it!  |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
27
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 07:49:00 -
[72] - Quote
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:Good stuff.
And for God's sake - KEEP YOUR CLONE UP TO DATE!!! Not sure what you are referring to here, is it like an actual gameplay feature that I completely missed? (Yesh, I haz noobdom) |

Valari Nala Zena
Perkone Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2013.05.24 08:14:00 -
[73] - Quote
YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Barbelo Valentinian wrote:Good stuff.
And for God's sake - KEEP YOUR CLONE UP TO DATE!!! Not sure what you are referring to here, is it like an actual gameplay feature that I completely missed? (Yesh, I haz noobdom) When you train, you accumulate skill points, after a while you have more skill points your clone can hold, if you get podded (someone killed your pod), you end up in the station your medical clone is set. You should always upgrade your medical clone to hold enough skill points.
If you get podded and your medical clone doesn't have enough skill point capacity, you will lose a level 5 skill i believe, at least a fair amount of skillpoints you didn't wan to lose. So always update your clone, and don't forget to do so again when you get podded. More info here : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_happens_when_my_character_dies
Also, here are some third party programs i really recommend:
EVEMON Helps you manage your skillpoints, also warns you when clones are out of date/ you aren't training a skill,...
EFT Helps you fit a ship out of game.
I use EVEMON and EFT for many years now.
EVE is very large, steep learning curve and there is a lot of variety. Figure out what you like, personally i joined a pretty big corp (250 members) that was rookie friendly. They did a bit of everything, pvp, pve, mining, exploring, wormholes, ... and confirm they are active.
EVE University is for example a good corp to learn the game.
Figure out what you like, then find people who do it, have fun.
Ah yes, be careful who you trust is good advice. Sometimes, you have come to trust someone, you can be betrayed. I have come across people who join corp, talk on comms, very polite, gained trust, then stole everything they got their hands on. |

Valari Nala Zena
Perkone Caldari State
75
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Posted - 2013.05.24 08:20:00 -
[74] - Quote
Double post :( |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2463
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Posted - 2013.05.24 08:28:00 -
[75] - Quote
Posting is stealth begging scam thread.
...but welcome to EvE.
In a year you'll read your post and you'll get where I'm coming from.
Of course... by then you'll be hooked. ...and it will be too late. 
|

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
28
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 08:46:00 -
[76] - Quote
Valari Nala Zena wrote:YayForgotteN Koskanaiken wrote:Barbelo Valentinian wrote:Good stuff.
And for God's sake - KEEP YOUR CLONE UP TO DATE!!! Not sure what you are referring to here, is it like an actual gameplay feature that I completely missed? (Yesh, I haz noobdom) When you train, you accumulate skill points, after a while you have more skill points then your clone can hold. If you get podded (someone killed your pod), you end up in the station your medical clone is set. You should always upgrade your medical clone to hold more than enough skill points. If you get podded and your medical clone doesn't have enough skill point capacity, you will lose a level 5 skill i believe, at least a fair amount of skillpoints you didn't want to lose. So always update your clone, and don't forget to do so again when you get podded. More info here : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_happens_when_my_character_dies All right then, I think I browsed trough those menus yesterday, I dont really have too much sp right now, but I'll keep an eye on my sp so I can upgrade the clone when my SP is getting close to crossing the cap. Thanks for responding!  |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
28
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 08:55:00 -
[77] - Quote
Gogela wrote:Posting is stealth begging scam thread. ...but welcome to EvE. In a year you'll read your post and you'll get where I'm coming from. Of course... by then you'll be hooked. ...and it will be too late.  Thanks! I'm not really begging for anything (as far as I know). I just felt like sharing my initial impression of EvE, because to be honest I was expecting a crappy mmo game I would play for a couple of hours and just leave, but as my first post said, I find EvE to be more and more fun every day I play! Perhaps I will think that this all looks stupid in a year or two, but I really don't care that much. |

YayForgotteN Koskanaiken
Kisogo Martial Arts Club
28
|
Posted - 2013.05.24 09:34:00 -
[78] - Quote
Ekhss Nihilo wrote: I'm a new EVE citizen - less than three weeks into it. In a purely practical sense, I recommend doing ALL of the tutorial missions. One the key things you'll get from them is a fair grasp of game mechanics and 'how do I do X'. The life of your ship will often hang on how well you are able to manage your weapons load-outs, their associated ammunition and the general fit of your ship.
Maneuver is vital. It's easy to warp into a location, get fascinated by what's going on and realize too late that you're not moving and have thus become a sitting duck. There's a fine art to kiting - keeping your ship at a certain distance that favors your weapons load-out and capabilities versus over your opponents. And then there's the lesson of learning NOT to orbit one opponent only to orbit into range of another.
I get the impression that mastering these essentials will allow you to punch well above your weight, a premise I have yet to really test.
Good luck with your endeavors in this remarkable universe. It's your story to tell.
Thanks for the combat advice, I'll test them when I get an opportunity! About the tutorial missions: I agree. As I just started playing EvE some days ago, I think that doing the tutorial missions is a good way get into how the different ways of playing is working. |

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
314
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Posted - 2013.05.24 10:24:00 -
[79] - Quote
Something that's always good to remember - the bigger the exploding ship, the better. Also the more ships that explode, the better.
That includes yours. |
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