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Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
535
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:41:00 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:Montevius Williams wrote:People need to read the EULA. I have no problem with CCP doing what it has to do in order to protect my information. Sony needs to pay attention and stop trying to give away free games when some hackers steal my cc info. Thats BS.
Thanks CCP. ^^^^^^^^ from the EULA: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-eula/"NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game. CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software. While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures." Some say recovery from a DDoS in the time CCP just did is pretty good.
Yup, I agree. If it takes a few days to stop the attack thats fine by me as long as my info is secure. "The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB |
Tyrendian Biohazard
Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance
52
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:42:00 -
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Ekhss Nihilo wrote:Freya Kaundur wrote:CCP please do not in any form compensate for this attack. do what you can to fix it and defend against them. but giving compensation will just give any shady individual who plays eve the idea that they can send a ddos attack and get free stuff. the vocal few that are crying for free stuff. should realize that compensation would be a bad idea.
again i thank you for protecting our privacy and keeping us in the loop with the situation. Totally with the OP on this. The entitlement crowd needs to back off and enjoy the incredible universe that CCP has put in front of us.
Agreed.
It is one thing when they royally b0rked the launcher, but this was outside their influence. NO FREE SP! My twitch stream to help new players:
http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51 |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1244
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:43:00 -
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Reiisha wrote:Winterblink wrote:Freya Kaundur wrote:CCP please do not in any form compensate for this attack. do what you can to fix it and defend against them. but giving compensation will just give any shady individual who plays eve the idea that they can send a ddos attack and get free stuff. the vocal few that are crying for free stuff. should realize that compensation would be a bad idea.
again i thank you for protecting our privacy and keeping us in the loop with the situation. You seriously think that someone would do a DDoS for 50k skill points? If there are people who'd vote for this guy in any kind of election, i bet there are people who'd ddos a game for the 'benefits'.
Forgive my ignorance, who is he? This is not a signature. |
Djana Libra
The Black Ops S2N Citizens
179
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:44:00 -
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Reiisha wrote:Winterblink wrote:Freya Kaundur wrote:CCP please do not in any form compensate for this attack. do what you can to fix it and defend against them. but giving compensation will just give any shady individual who plays eve the idea that they can send a ddos attack and get free stuff. the vocal few that are crying for free stuff. should realize that compensation would be a bad idea.
again i thank you for protecting our privacy and keeping us in the loop with the situation. You seriously think that someone would do a DDoS for 50k skill points? If there are people who'd vote for this guy in any kind of election, i bet there are people who'd ddos a game for the 'benefits'.
same goes for this one |
Jacob Muvila
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:46:00 -
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Captian Darknipples wrote:I lost a days worth of game play from no fault of my own. CCP is very punctual on payment due dates, you dont pay exactly within the due time you lose the ability to play. This being said i will be punctual on requesting compensation for my game time. All you suck ups can stop trying to speak for the rest of us. I especially get a kick out of you studs that make it a point to sign your name after every reply...Seriously get over yourself.
Yeah they think they are going to get some kind of a door prize or good standings with CCP. Without compensation they will lose money over this. I know one of my accounts will expire because I was unable to log on to make the ISK to plex it this weekend. Has nothing to do with RAGE or QQ. I was unable to log on and make my isk. So this month the account will have to wait a week or so to plex up.
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Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
26
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:47:00 -
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Freya Kaundur wrote:CCP please do not in any form compensate for this attack. do what you can to fix it and defend against them. but giving compensation will just give any shady individual who plays eve the idea that they can send a ddos attack and get free stuff. the vocal few that are crying for free stuff. should realize that compensation would be a bad idea.
again i thank you for protecting our privacy and keeping us in the loop with the situation.
I agree, what is done is done, lets not make it profitable... |
floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:47:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote: CCP deserve credit for how well they handled the situation providing updates.
They delivered 3 sets of short messages via twitter split into 2-3 messages each (total of 7) over 18 hours.
What world am I living in where this is praiseworthy? I mean come on... wth |
Julius Rigel
100
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:52:00 -
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Captian Darknipples wrote:CCP is very punctual on payment due dates, you dont pay exactly within the due time you lose the ability to play. Yes they are, because the contract you signed says that you owe them that money at that specific time in exchange for playing.
Captian Darknipples wrote:This being said i will be punctual on requesting compensation for my game time. Feel free to do so, that is the exact purpose of the petition system. But there is nothing in that contract you signed which states that the publisher owes you any "compensation".
Anyway, I honestly could not care less one way or the other. The only way these skillpoints affect me is having to make another petition to have them moved to another character so they don't clutter my skill sheet. Do YOU like to undock? |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
427
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:55:00 -
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floating in space wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote: CCP deserve credit for how well they handled the situation providing updates.
They delivered 3 sets of short messages via twitter split into 2-3 messages each (total of 7) over 18 hours. What world am I living in where this is praiseworthy? I mean come on... wth
WTF do you want them to post?
"Working on the unexpected downtime. THank you for your patience."
"Still working on it."
"Found some veldspar in s server fan but removing it didn't fix the problem."
"We found the cause of the problem! Now working to get things straight."
"Things were really not stright. Lots of work still to be done."
"CCP Falcon just hit his pinky toe on a server rack."
""There is now blood all over the floor but the server guy is still fixing stuff. CCP Falcon is being evacuated."
It's not like there was all that much changing while they fix stuff ... |
cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
154
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:57:00 -
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Freya Kaundur wrote:CCP please do not in any form compensate for this attack. do what you can to fix it and defend against them. but giving compensation will just give any shady individual who plays eve the idea that they can send a ddos attack and get free stuff. the vocal few that are crying for free stuff. should realize that compensation would be a bad idea.
again i thank you for protecting our privacy and keeping us in the loop with the situation.
We did get compensated, the game is running again. That is all the compensation I need.
Good work CCP! |
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
925
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:58:00 -
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Paul Panala wrote:Freya Kaundur wrote:CCP please do not in any form compensate for this attack. do what you can to fix it and defend against them. but giving compensation will just give any shady individual who plays eve the idea that they can send a ddos attack and get free stuff. the vocal few that are crying for free stuff. should realize that compensation would be a bad idea.
again i thank you for protecting our privacy and keeping us in the loop with the situation. I don't think you know what a DDoS is. It is not something that someone runs on their basement computer. You need to have control over a hung number of computers to pull it off, not easy. You either need to have hundreds of thousands of people willing to follow you for a cause (like Anonymous) or have control over that number of computers you have been able to compromise (nearly impossible given the security that exists today with modern software). Either way, this isn't something someone can do because they are looking for skill points. This is 2013, not 2003.
There are quite a few operators that will rent out their (existing) botnets for ddos attacks - all they ask is your money and a target. |
floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:58:00 -
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So now it goes from OMG THANK CCP FOR THAT AMAZING UPDATES to OMG THERE WAS NOTHING TO UPDATE I <3 CCP
I'm starting to see how some of you may have run into problems during recess in your school years. Which actually explains a lot about EVE itself. |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Coldest Sea Sailing
325
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:59:00 -
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Captian Darknipples wrote:I lost a days worth of game play from no fault of my own. CCP is very punctual on payment due dates, you dont pay exactly within the due time you lose the ability to play. This being said i will be punctual on requesting compensation for my game time. All you suck ups can stop trying to speak for the rest of us. I especially get a kick out of you studs that make it a point to sign your name after every reply...Seriously get over yourself.
Suck it up, buttercup
love, Vort
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Freya Kaundur
Paradigm Shift.
51
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:59:00 -
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i have seen companies not mention for days why there service was down. a few hours in between updates is acceptable. and people we pay for the right to rent the license to play a account on there servers. ccp owns everything we do and has the right to shut service for whatever reason they deem necessary. and the only legal right we have under the eula is the ability to get a refund for the amount of time we lost due to the service being UN-accessible. so if you want to get your 50 cents back have at it.
if ccp gives any compensation it should be a custom tin foil hat that grants +32.5% to DDOS protection. that would make me happy. something fun and fluffy making fun of the situation. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1248
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:00:00 -
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Normally, I do not want to anyone to quit Eve, but dear me, I have read all of this thread now, and I really hope that CCP do not give us any form of compensation, and the 'I want' folk quit Eve for good. This is not a signature. |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
1156
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:00:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Doesn't matter either way, it's CCP's call and they've already indicated they will do some form of compensation... because they feel it is the right thing to do, not because they are obligated to.
You said it, 100% correct. CCP are not obligated to do any form of compensation, especially in a case such as the DoS attack. Yet they have stated they will come up with something, out of their own good morals and care of their customers, not because some people are screaming AYE and others NAY.
Because this is who CCP are.
Either/or, I don't care. The very idea that CCP are considering compensation means a lot (of good things).
Thank you for securing my data, CCP.
o7
Personnel Division Director --áBene Gesserit Chapterhouse "The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another." - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Major 'Revolver' Ocelot
GRU Special Forces
116
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:02:00 -
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Julius Rigel wrote:The only way these skillpoints affect me is having to make another petition to have them moved to another character so they don't clutter my skill sheet.
Yuuuuuup. Same here. I love to reload during a battle!-áThere's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver missile into a well greased chamber... |
James 420
EVE Corporation 98188875
17
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:04:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Paul Panala wrote:Freya Kaundur wrote:CCP please do not in any form compensate for this attack. do what you can to fix it and defend against them. but giving compensation will just give any shady individual who plays eve the idea that they can send a ddos attack and get free stuff. the vocal few that are crying for free stuff. should realize that compensation would be a bad idea.
again i thank you for protecting our privacy and keeping us in the loop with the situation. I don't think you know what a DDoS is. It is not something that someone runs on their basement computer. You need to have control over a hung number of computers to pull it off, not easy. You either need to have hundreds of thousands of people willing to follow you for a cause (like Anonymous) or have control over that number of computers you have been able to compromise (nearly impossible given the security that exists today with modern software). Either way, this isn't something someone can do because they are looking for skill points. This is 2013, not 2003. There are quite a few operators that will rent out their (existing) botnets for ddos attacks - all they ask is your money and a target. Sure dude I'll use thousands of dollars and the possibility to get arrested to get 50k sp in eve, it's not like I can buy isk with real money or anything right? Proud enforcer of 420 BLAZE IT |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
428
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:05:00 -
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floating in space wrote:So now it goes from OMG THANK CCP FOR THAT AMAZING UPDATES to OMG THERE WAS NOTHING TO UPDATE I <3 CCP I'm starting to see how some of you may have run into problems during recess in your school years. Which actually explains a lot about EVE itself.
I'm really lost about what you mean by that now. Is my english really that bad or it's not supposed to make any sense? |
ian papabear
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
117
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:07:00 -
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why would you even have compensation? some higher sp players like myself had 30day skills in the que anyway, wouldnt make a difference unless eve was down for more than a month lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNReV76PtqM |
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
3827
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:10:00 -
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Winterblink wrote:You seriously think that someone would do a DDoS for 50k skill points? Yes.
I once was DDoS by some Russian guy in the old NC to kill my snipe Panther. He all but said it in local to me moments before it happened. I had just popped one of their cynos on station or something and went to a safe spot and cloaked. They launched probes, informed me I was about to have a bad day. In came the DDoS to crash my clients and my IP. After five solid minutes they finally stopped the DDoS attack and I was able to log back in. Into a station of course. I logged my covert cyno alt back on, the system I was snipping in and they warned me it would happen again if I did what I was doing again.
So again, yes. People will do anything possible in this game. Especially if they feel untouchable.
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Coldest Sea Sailing
325
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:10:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Forgive my ignorance, who is he?
that's Geert Wilders
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
242
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:15:00 -
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I can see some of these people (if and when) they go out on a date and their partner does not offer sex afterwards...
"Hey! I bought dinner! You owe me!" |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
428
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:17:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:I can see some of these people (if and when) they go out on a date and their partner does not offer sex afterwards...
"Hey! I bought dinner! You owe me!"
Sadly, I'v eseen it happen IRL. It's pretty bad... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2824
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:17:00 -
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Winterblink wrote:Freya Kaundur wrote:CCP please do not in any form compensate for this attack. do what you can to fix it and defend against them. but giving compensation will just give any shady individual who plays eve the idea that they can send a ddos attack and get free stuff. the vocal few that are crying for free stuff. should realize that compensation would be a bad idea.
again i thank you for protecting our privacy and keeping us in the loop with the situation. You seriously think that someone would do a DDoS for 50k skill points?
Why not? People will RMT large amounts of money and the worst of the worst KM-addicts will go to greater lengths.
Rewarding everybody for downtime I think is certain to make some people think that they can get more free SP. Imagine if they can bring everything down for a week? And they will be in these forums screaming the loudest for SP, as part of the op.
They should just give everybody a Quafe. |
Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:19:00 -
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I agree - please don't give these players compensation, give it all to ME! muahahaha |
Nada Kenodori
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:22:00 -
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Karean Frintezaa wrote:Compensating players who werent able to play on sunday is the best choice they make in my opinion.
Although it wasnt their fault that the servers crashed, it is their responsibility to keep them up. As a company it is also their responsability to asure majoraty of the clients are happy with the service.
Its not like they are sacrificing their liives for you, they do it because you are paying their rents,food etc... May sound a bit blunt but its reality.
+1 We're paying (not all of us) for this game. As a new player with less than 600k SP, every little bit count. Getting at least a free day added to my account would be fine and fair. Not too sure about giving free SP, but I'll take whatever they decide (and they will as stated in their previous announce). It's just another good opportunity for CCP to prove how their company rocks and how they care for their customer base.
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floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:43:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
I'm really lost about what you mean by that now. Is my English really that bad or it's not supposed to make any sense?
A lot of children find sucking up and 'suck-ups' to be contemptible... this extends to adults of course as well. The implication being that these kids were picked on in school and then come to EVE and bully other people now, as an outlet for the shame and anger they're still dealing with from childhood 'harvesting tears' as it were. |
HesCalledTheStig
Titanomachy Manufacturing and Research Outer Corridor Resource Acquisition n Procurement
0
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Posted - 2013.06.03 20:58:00 -
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Are you kidding? Because of a vulnerability on CCPs end I lost almost 24 hours of training only a few days before a major update hits that changes a lot of skills.
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Zenith Huunuras
Pro Synergy
4
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:05:00 -
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Now that i see people keep bringing up legal arguments and EULAs, you do know that many of these EULAs don't hold much ground against customer protection laws in most if not all jurisdictions. But debating legal stuff is pointless anyway, nobody in his right mind would think of taking legal action is such a minor incident. This is a customer service and marketing issue. CCP didn't provide a service, for a relatively extended period of time, during peak hours. While it's not the end of the world if for me personally if no compensation is provided, the people that strongly ask for one are not out of line.
Oh and this "suck it up" attitude is fine in game. It's one of the things that's attractive to eve. But when it comes to the real world things don't(or shouldn't) work this way and totally unacceptable towards customers. This is why a day added to play time would be a fair compensation in my book, and not free SP. Yes, i do feel entitled, just as i feel entitled to a pizza when i pay for a pizza.
Anyway, this is more for the "suck it up" mob, trolls and tinfoil hat wearers. All in all CCP did a decent job for a not so big company, this is not a hate post. |
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