It's a cold and harsh universe where people blow each other up and cause emotional distress. Caring about motion sickness should be the last of peoples worries. ;)

How to I turn the "auto tracking to whatever I select "off? Is driving me nutz..And really is giving me motion sickness. Already made sure the tracking camera is of in directional scanner which has lost all purpose in live.

While trying out the new jumps between star gates, I noticed I started to feel a bit of sea sickness watching the warps. Whereas I can handle it, CCP might want to note those that could come down with seizures might need an "off" switch.

Just a head's up.

People who suffer from seizures would do well avoiding a game full of flashy lasers and explosions.

but after 10 jumps (and admittedly a few beers) was ready to redecorate my computer monitor.

press C.
or change setting in selected items window -

press C.
or change setting in selected items window -

Also, wrong answer for the OP's question. Thank you for the support, though.

No it isnt, the majority of people reporting motion sickness issues during testing was talking about the post jump not prejump and thus CCP gave us the ability to swing our cam back to gate post jump with tracking cam on and to not move from the direction its pointing during the entire trip through the tunnel by deselecting the tracking cam. The Dev correctly answered the question; however, yourself and the OP obviously dont want the function on period and sorry but that isnt going to happen.

You cant give players the ability to choose black load screen or jump because the jump transition is hard coded into the session change. Not even flipping whs show black screens now. I suggest if someone isnt liking this effect to simply hit the unsub button. To be honest the rest of us love it and its staying. I REALLY dont see how this is affecting as many people as claim it does. Your cam only moves once per jump which isnt enough to induce VIMS, which by the way is NOT common among the population. Seems odd that suddenly an epidemic flares up eh?

Sounds to me like most people just hate their cam being moved and are using this as an excuse to stop it. Eitherway, CCP has already warned in the EULA that this game could induce seizure like symptoms and suggest if it does to you that you play another game.

press C.
or change setting in selected items window -

I REALLY dont see how this is affecting as many people as claim it does. Your cam only moves once per jump which isnt enough to induce VIMS, which by the way is NOT common among the population. Seems odd that suddenly an epidemic flares up eh?

Personally, the swirly thing is only half of it. What really bugs me is that when all the animation stuff is done, they dont put my camera back where it was...

Err... close your eyes for like 10 seconds?
At least you'll be able to play...

Close... my...eyes. because CCP implemented a motion sickness inducing animation.

That is THE solution!
Whohoo! We have a winner!




Not.

If closing your eyes does not fix the problem you might want to stop playing TW while driving. Not that I don't agree it should be turn-offable, but uhm.... way to overreact.

This you should be able to stop with the "C" key.

What you can't stop is the forced camera panning & zoom toward the gate, before the jump. As long as you have tracking off, when you land on the otherside of the gate, the camera should not move toward your ship.

Not what I am talking about.

Try this.

Place your camera looking top down at your ship.
Jump through a gate.
Wheneverything is doen, is the camera still looking down? No! That is the issue. This worked just fine before this new transition.

As someone who always place my camera looking top down zoomed more or less out, this is very annoying. I did bug report it, but: "Its working as intended."

press C.
or change setting in selected items window -

Every time there is a change in jump or motion effects there are threads like this.

I'm trying not to be snarky here, but seriously... how do you folks play any sort of action or combat oriented video game? This effect is litterally nothing compared to the action that takes place in most games.

I understand that we can switch it back.. by why was it changed at all - the default behavior?

Every time there is a change in jump or motion effects there are threads like this.

I'm trying not to be snarky here, but seriously... how do you folks play any sort of action or combat oriented video game? This effect is litterally nothing compared to the action that takes place in most games.

I noticed I started to feel a bit of sea sickness watching the warps.

Actually, your camera view changed under the old way as well. You just don't notice it as much due to the loading screen and the fact that you didn't see the camera swing.

In the lore... the human non capsuleer would feel queazy during jumps. So uh yeah get your jump legs and watch out for the Unicorns in the jump tunnels (true story).

I play in UT99 more than 10 years and I know everything about motion and effects, and I tell you how we play in combat video games...it's very easy, because WE ROTATE CAMERA in direction where WE WANT IT AND WE follow it BY OUR eyes and not someone else randomly rotate camera like in EVE after last patch.

I doubt that CCP gives a damn about what any of you say, only what you do.

If you hate it that much start unsubbing and that will get their attention

From your post you come across as very arrogant, so im not surprised you cant see it.

Simulator motion sickness induced by gaming is a very common issue so im not sure where you got the notion that its not common. Everyone is affected differently by it and what affects one may not affect another, whats important is to have options to cover different scenarios where people may suffer from it. Thats where things are now a problem, after forcing something that can and is quite obviously causing people motion sickness issues, and was previously warned of before release and not taken into consideration.

The biggest factor causing it for me is the actual in warp animation. The changing speeds followed by the very slight pause as the system change takes place is unsettling. The camera tracking has nothing to do with it in my case but I can see how it may for others.

You mean to tell me the actual in flight part of the transition is what is making you queezy? How the **** do you stand warp drive then? Its essentially the same ******* mechanic but a lot darker.

Thanks for this post

I was the person who originally asked CCP to add the option to stop screen / camera shake due to sever epilepsy : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=888591
It was amazed when they added it in around 2 months later when they did their next patch. It made Eve a million times more playable for me and I don't think I've unsubscribed since then (2008).

Your post is correct though - this is very hard for people with any form of epilepsy. It reminds me of the days when I didn't have the ability to turn off camera shake.

May want to add that epilepsy warning at the start screen, CCP. Other game companies add it if they use flashy animations to warn those with such conditions -- with a link to how to minimize the problem (like how to shut off the animations).

3D causes issues with more than epilepsy patients, anyone with inner ear disorders can suffer, too. And let's remember a famous astronaut who did have that problem: Alan Shepard.

Have you ever actually paid attention to warp drive? First of all, it doesn't throw you into a first person "flushed down the toilet" effect.

Secondly, you can pivot your camera around to different angles if looking straight into the animation does bother you.

Third, you can zoom out so far with warp that you really can't even tell your ship is doing much of anything.

Idiot Mongoloid Spurge.

Noting you argue even matters, the point is that it makes me and many others feel sick, so give us an option to disable it. Pretty simple.

blah blah blah, I want stuff that means nothing and does nothing

More Spurge.

If we followed your logic, NOTHING in this game would ever be enhanced. So yes lets have an option to turn off this effect, lets also have options to turn off new ship model skins and revert back to old ones, lets have an option to turn off space in general and just fly in blackness with a sun, lets have an option to turn off all objects in space because warping past them could make one motion sickness too right? Starting to see how ridiculous this is sounding, it starts with one ridiculous comment like yours.

If we followed your logic, NOTHING in this game would ever be enhanced. So yes lets have an option to turn off this effect, lets also have options to turn off new ship model skins and revert back to old ones, lets have an option to turn off space in general and just fly in blackness with a sun, lets have an option to turn off all objects in space because warping past them could make one motion sickness too right? Starting to see how ridiculous this is sounding, it starts with one ridiculous comment like yours.

You can jump through the gate with the map open. You will not see the jump animation.

But, still stop adding blinky **** to the game. I do not like it. Please add an option to turn it off.
Many, many other graphical things can be shut off so I do not see this as an unreasonable request.

While trying out the new jumps between star gates, I noticed I started to feel a bit of sea sickness watching the warps. Whereas I can handle it, CCP might want to note those that could come down with seizures might need an "off" switch.

Just a head's up.

9/10

Yes, that's exactly what I need when I am trying to determine the exact locations of the ships in an enemy fleet as I jump through a gate: the map to be up....you know, that thing that could only be used as a gate animation replacement, because it's functionally worthless for just about anything else. Dotlan says hi.

F10 > jump > F10 does not seem that difficult or time consuming and is a quick workaround for the gate jump animation... On a side note I happen to find the solar system map very useful particularly when bouncing between various bookmarks.

Some thoughts on this also located in the features and ideas subforum: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=243349&find=unread

TLDR: I'm having major motion sickness from this and there needs to be a option to turn this off completely and just go back to the loading bar.

"It would seem you're not ~hard~ enough for EVE Online: So real, you were there, you were sick "

You could argue the jita riots from Incarna were from people that were not "~hard~ enough for eve online" also. Does this make it true? No.

You know, I guess there is something to say when EVE players are feeling sick while playing, seeing that we have come along way in computer graphics!

In the sense of realism, and as an artist, I would take these complaints into account, but also treat them as compliments to how real everything looks and feels in a GAME!

You know, I guess there is something to say when EVE players are feeling sick while playing, seeing that we have come along way in computer graphics!

In the sense of realism, and as an artist, I would take these complaints into account, but also treat them as compliments to how real everything looks and feels in a GAME!

In the sense of realism, and as an artist, I would take these complaints into account, but also treat them as compliments to how real everything looks and feels in a GAME!

Don't think you get motion sickness in space with there being zero G and no sense of direction, eve space is not akin to real space, pictures you see from the likes of Hubble are only pretty because they use filters :)

Not detracting from your point, just throwing in some science for real life comparisons

Don't think you get motion sickness in space with there being zero G and no sense of direction, eve space is not akin to real space, pictures you see from the likes of Hubble are only pretty because they use filters :)

Not detracting from your point, just throwing in some science for real life comparisons

G-forces are a unit of acceleration (dv/dt = acceleration), which EVE ships have in space when changing velocity in a straight line or orbit.

G = gravity, in space you do not feel acceleration

While trying out the new jumps between star gates, I noticed I started to feel a bit of sea sickness watching the warps. Whereas I can handle it, CCP might want to note those that could come down with seizures might need an "off" switch.

Just a head's up.

Cool story. Doesn't change the fact that this is something that wasn't a problem before, but now suddenly is, and only on one aspect of the game (albeit an extremely heavily utilized one). I am still waiting for someone to make the "just stay in one system" argument.

Actually, threads identical to this appeared when the new warp tunnel effect was implimented.

What are you trying to tell us?

literally nothing

cool story, kid

Click jump. Close your eyes. Count to three. Open them.

Click jump. Close your eyes. Count to three. Open them.

Why not add some content, dude?

Actually, threads identical to this appeared when the new warp tunnel effect was implemented.

We have some spare content sitting in our hangar, what would you like and Ill see if we have it.

Fixed it for you.

Else, not sure if just plain stupid. (you)

Your name is appropriate.

9/10

If you have epilepsy, you've already been tested for photo-sensitivity. If you are prone to having photo-sensitive seizures, you shouldn't be playing video games in the first place.

Seizures are not triggered by motion sickness you twit.


This has nothing to do with Epilepsy and the warp gate effect. Man up ffs.

Well, what do you want?

Hey! I like that! +1 to you for your comment.




Alright, Doctor Hardcore Dumbass chiming in here. Now did I say I suffer from epilepsy in my post? Apparently the others that have posted their experiences here must be all whacked in the head because no, not one person got sick watching the new warp tunnel effect. And no, there are not other threads asking for any change to the animation. I guess I just wanted to boost my "likes received" and created this bogus thread.

Perhaps CCP will create a patch that with each exploded space ship, graphical images of burn, war, and other catastrophes' victims will be displayed on the screen with a small note stating, "Your handy work." I know I can look at that stuff without gaining a queasy stomach. I'll just have to be hard core like you and tell others to "Man up ffs."


Ranger - come on man... do you ever see anything ~negative~ from CCP? Nearly every reply from you is borderline "CCP can do no wrong!"

You trying to get a job there or something?

Well, i have to apologize obviously.

Faction Point would do it.

The new stargate transition animation is absolutely beautiful. I really do love it.

However, after a number of jumps, I do start to feel queasy. I don't have a bad case of motion sickness -- it is fairly mild -- but the camera movement of the new animation triggers it.

Please provide an option for us to have some other sort of (static?) transition between jumps. Like I said, it's not bad for me, and most likely I will be able to adjust to it over time. However I know others could be close to vomiting after the first transition.

Every time there is a change in jump or motion effects there are threads like this.

I'm trying not to be snarky here, but seriously... how do you folks play any sort of action or combat oriented video game? This effect is litterally nothing compared to the action that takes place in most games.

Even withotu the issue of motion sickness this jump thing is a HORRIBLE design by anyoen that understands on human iteraction with computers. Anythign that is repeatedly performed must have MINOR and subtle feedback on the screen otherwise it gets tiresome and will eventually start to give headache to a LOT of peopel that now are not still suffering from the sickness.


This is AGAIN another change clearly pushed by someone that does not play much eve at all. I really doubt 1 in 3 people will not get fedup with this when day after day they perform 70 jumps per hour during 4 hours of a day.

Your arrogance is astounding. Some people do truly have issues and you blow it off as a "seen it before post".

If roller coasters make you sick, do you petition the company to make them easier to handle?

The QQ'rs

If roller coasters make you sick, do you petition the company to make them easier to handle?

Heh, The only time I've ever had motion sickness from a computer game was minecraft for some obscure reason, something to do with the camera bobbing about when moving combined with strafing and looking around whilst moving.

Basically it's your brain recieving conflicting information between what your eyes are telling your brain about your movement in space, and what your ear is telling your brain your body is experiencing in terms of balance.

Closing your eyes or moving further away from your screen will help stop this as a quick workaround.

But yeah, CCP should definitely tweak the jump animations, make the camera transitions a little less harsh etc...

Another option would be to leave the animation on by default but add another optional jump sequence which fades to black on clicking jump... briefly fades in the target system name and region, then fade back in once the jump is completed, this would help keep the cinematic feel of travelling through space, without annoying people or causing nausea for those susceptable to motion sickness... or those players who've had a little too much to drink :)

Heh, The only time I've ever had motion sickness from a computer game was minecraft for some obscure reason, something to do with the camera bobbing about when moving combined with strafing and looking around whilst moving.

Basically it's your brain recieving conflicting information between what your eyes are telling your brain about your movement in space, and what your ear is telling your brain your body is experiencing in terms of balance.

Closing your eyes or moving further away from your screen will help stop this as a quick workaround.

But yeah, CCP should definitely tweak the jump animations, make the camera transitions a little less harsh etc...

Another option would be to leave the animation on by default but add another optional jump sequence which fades to black on clicking jump... briefly fades in the target system name and region, then fade back in once the jump is completed, this would help keep the cinematic feel of travelling through space, without annoying people or causing nausea for those susceptable to motion sickness... or those players who've had a little too much to drink :)