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Neptunus
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Posted - 2003.08.06 18:28:00 -
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What is the deal - I just saw http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=24361
How did TTI already get that stuff? And wtf is up with all those battleships mining in that screenshot? Is this the way all corps are? Jesus I have to join a corp I am behind the curve.
Look at that screenshot at http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=23341 !
Maybe I am just naive!
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.08.06 18:46:00 -
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It is pretty suspicious but there is no way to tell if that screenshot was taken recently or during beta and this is just some kind of propoganda. Though because they claimed it was a recent shot I'll assume it is so.
<rant>
WTF?!?!?!
</rant>
-E
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Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.08.06 18:55:00 -
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yeah i can take a screenshot from beta and paste on top of a really cool looking mining event too! 
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.08.06 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Viceroy on 06/08/2003 19:02:47
Edited by: Viceroy on 06/08/2003 19:00:00
goddamnit!  But I think its a story or something, it cant be real! NOOOOOO! I WANT ONE OF THOSE TOOO!
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DJMike
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Posted - 2003.08.06 18:59:00 -
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I would love to have that mining laser.
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Endyl
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Endyl on 06/08/2003 19:01:09
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la'Rei
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:01:00 -
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First thing, That jovian tech is a load of bull, that jove guy is... well... Idunno what he is DEFINATLY isnt TTI.
Second.
TTI is "HUGE" plus they used a volley of semi-exploits when the game came out. they got their b-ship blueprint like a MONTH ago.
4 battleships... and like 6 indys... could buy 1 or 2 battleships a day, if their used right.
a corp as big as theirs... like 300+ members. could EASILY have gotten 10 battleships within the first week, because of people saveing for it.
So 10 battleships within first week, now those are getting like 3-4 a day now. so were talking they could easily get everyone a battleship within 5 months if they worked together. that's 300+ battleships!
So however many battleships they ahve it's legit.
Only thing that gets me, is in the begging they mined arknoir in frigates... got rich quick, got cruisers quick, and have always been 2 steps ahead.
-rei
(I dont feel TTI has cheated in any way, and I "know" they dont have jovian tech. that was all RP element)
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 06/08/2003 20:49:07
I don't believe it is real.
I believe TTI were trying to roleplay being something other than a boring grey-suited isk-hungry corp. who are in the game for domination rather the pure gaming pleasure.
They failed miserably and should go back to the drawing board (but not to produce any more lame doctored screenshots).
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Endyl
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:05:00 -
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>Viceroy edited his post, the little monkey.
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>Check the screeny...look at the "current
>location".
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>Wrong side of the screen.
Maybe because he remembered you just have to right click on icon bar and select align right. 
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:06:00 -
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arrrrgh Joshua, why do you make me confront my past?
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Crimsonjade
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:07:00 -
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it is possible to have ur current location to the right side of your screen.
look both screenshots are real. the mining event is a backdrop that looks pretty good with the lighting. it was taken within the last week or so id imagine. the little attributes box is from beta. they pasted it on top of the image. simple...
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.
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Snoop
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:07:00 -
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the jovian tech guy pic was from one of the recent CSM chats
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 06/08/2003 20:49:16
I don't believe it is real.
I believe TTI were trying to roleplay being something other than a boring grey-suited isk-hungry corp. who are in the game for domination rather the pure gaming pleasure.
They failed miserably and should go back to the drawing board (but not to produce any more lame doctored screenshots).
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:10:00 -
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Hehe, now joshua is red!
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:18:00 -
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 Quote:
What is the deal - I just saw http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=24361
How did TTI already get that stuff? And wtf is up with all those battleships mining in that screenshot? Is this the way all corps are? Jesus I have to join a corp I am behind the curve.
Look at that screenshot at http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=23341 !
Maybe I am just naive!
I wouldn't "panic".
There is less to this than meet the eye.
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Shintai
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:19:00 -
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If they have Tech V miners, why not tech V guns too, and other stuff....
BAN I say!
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
la'Rei
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:26:00 -
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Quote:
If they have Tech V miners, why not tech V guns too, and other stuff....
BAN I say!
it's from the beta.
the stats were taken from beta, the screenie was taken recently, paste the stats on screenie!
-Rei
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:31:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 06/08/2003 20:49:37
I don't believe it is real.
I believe TTI were trying to roleplay being something other than a boring grey-suited isk-hungry corp. who are in the game for domination rather the pure gaming pleasure.
They failed miserably and should go back to the drawing board (but not to produce any more lame doctored screenshots).
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Brian Hissa
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:33:00 -
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Maybe thier reason is just to give you something to talk about.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:37:00 -
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True or false, its good stuff to read :)
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 06/08/2003 20:50:06
I don't believe it is real.
I believe TTI were trying to roleplay being something other than a boring grey-suited isk-hungry corp. who are in the game for domination rather the pure gaming pleasure.
They failed miserably and should go back to the drawing board (but not to produce any more lame doctored screenshots).
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:45:00 -
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kudos to the megalomaniacs for doing a bit of rp'ing on the side. As for the items in question, *big shrug*. But you already knew that guys... i mean, honestly... tech 5? LOL.
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Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 06/08/2003 20:50:15
I don't believe it is real.
I believe TTI were trying to roleplay being something other than a boring grey-suited isk-hungry corp. who are in the game for domination rather the pure gaming pleasure.
They failed miserably and should go back to the drawing board (but not to produce any more lame doctored screenshots).
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:55:00 -
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Very simple...
Offcial explanation or get my accounts cancelled, I dont let my ego run wild on the servers so much to have it slapped down by people getting gifts from god.
BYE BYE
I WIN
STav
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
JohnnyBlaze
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:56:00 -
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I agree, news like this doesnt hold much for the integrity of the game.
The name's johnnyblaze ain't a damn thing changed. |
Ends
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ends on 06/08/2003 19:58:03
Anyone foolish enough to believe those doctored shots is.... foolish. lol.
Stravos quit being a sucker. lol
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la'Rei
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:57:00 -
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StavrOs - First thign, that's fake.
Second thing, those items are from beta. I dunno if you played it long enough, those were quit a while ago. Their 'NOT' in the game now.
-Rei
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Shollos
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Posted - 2003.08.06 19:59:00 -
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most definately real, most definately not fake
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Endureth on 06/08/2003 20:06:46
Okay, after some thought, one of a couple things is happening here.
1. TTI is not telling the truth. It's fabricated propoganda/doctored images and nothing more. It might be an attempt to make other corpss feel inferior to TTI but all it really is, is a lie.
2. TomB, or whoever does the loot drop tables, messed up. There is a pirate out there somewhere that is dropping these and TTI is taking advantage of it. What self-respecting CEO wouldn't take advantage of such an opportunity?
3. It's a shot from the Test server. Any TTI members that are in Polaris could probably spawn these things on the test server fairly easily but as far as I know, no Polaris member can spawn anything on the live server.
4. A GM is playing favorites. I highly doubt this one because being a GM means working in Iceland for real money and I don't think anyone is stupid enough to give items out like this and risk loosing their jobs.
5. It's a story element. Highly unlikely but not impossible. Stations aren't even in yet so I doubt that the devs would want to throw in Jove tech, especially level 5 when levels 2-4 haven't been introduced.
It has to be one of those.
-E
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Icho
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:06:00 -
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Well if u look at the URL http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com/fiction/images/jmining.jpg. Notice it has the word FICTION in it, easy enuf right?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:06:00 -
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I don't think Polaris members should be allowed to join any other corp. than "Polaris".
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:08:00 -
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Notice too how the TTi webs(h)ite states they don't lie to people.....
Something a miss
Oberon Incorporated. |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:11:00 -
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Halo,
TTI can get out of this easily by saying "It was all roleplay".
For a so-called big corp. they're pretty dumb.
Roping poor Jade into it was a smart move...for about 2 days.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Jack Hayden
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:15:00 -
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Sorry to say this, but I am with Stavr0s here, if some corporations get's gifts from God I am out of here, the play field needs to be even. End of story.
Like Stav, I am right, everyone else is wrong. Bow before me!
á
"Spelling and grammatical errors are placed solely to test your abilities as a proofreader. All prices include 25% VAT."
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:16:00 -
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Exxxceellent...
/me hands jack a fiver
Stav
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:17:00 -
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Quote:
Halo,
TTI can get out of this easily by saying "It was all roleplay".
For a so-called big corp. they're pretty dumb.
Roping poor Jade into it was a smart move...for about 2 days.
Yupp, they certainly can Joshua, but it kinda goes against their whole roleplaying status as plastered all over their webs(h)ite, whats the point in RPing if you go against the structure you define clearly as roleplaying...
Really think TTi have missed the boat on this occasion, don't think much at all of them now..
Oberon Incorporated. |
Razin
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Razin on 06/08/2003 20:22:49
Is there a way to move the "current location" info from the left-top corner to the right-top corner of the screen in the current game?
Cause the screenshot has that info in the right-top corner.
Was this the way it was in the beta?
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BSOD
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:23:00 -
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Quote:
Well if u look at the URL http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com/fiction/images/jmining.jpg. Notice it has the word FICTION in it, easy enuf right?
Yup. It's a doctored screenshot that was used as part of a STORY that was created for entertainment and nothing else. Nothing more.
Note that it is a subdirectory of http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com/fiction/, which is solely a storytelling/roleplay/entertainment section of TTI's site, not a PR section.
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Blue Screen of Death
CEO
Exodus Enterprises |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:24:00 -
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Roleplaying about specific items which don't appear in the game yet seems.....awfully stupid.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:26:00 -
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Joshua
i agree wholeheartedly
probably a publicity stunt
they say all publicity is good
but in this case TTi went form neutral in my mind to like standing level -20 for this utter drivvel and deceit
Oberon Incorporated. |
Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:28:00 -
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it is real and they have them methinks :)
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:31:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 06/08/2003 20:31:56
Hang on.
Check my sig!
It's a tech level 5 roleplaying denunciation of those capitalist liars...errr....
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:45:00 -
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Quote:
it is real and they have them methinks :)
If so Stavr0s, i'll race you to the cancel button :-)
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Gan Howorth
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:46:00 -
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Why do people believe this is real?
Tell you what though, the odd one-in-existence high tech drop would make things a little uncertain.. a.k.a excitement
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:48:00 -
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I don't believe it is real.
I believe TTI were trying to roleplay being something other than a boring grey-suited isk-hungry corp. who are in the game for domination rather the pure gaming pleasure.
They failed miserably and should go back to the drawing board (but not to produce any more lame doctored screenshots).
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:51:00 -
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TTI has a lots of bships that mine all the time. They pretty efficient at it - just go look at a belt they have mined. I should say what belt because nothing is left but the location you warp to when they done .
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Technolisa
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: Technolisa on 06/08/2003 20:57:05
Edited by: Technolisa on 06/08/2003 20:56:46
Miner itself was in beta
but there wasnt any scan button or autopilot button , in beta. 
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Mission
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:57:00 -
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It is real u fools.
This is what happened :-
Someone logged on there character and instead
of a basic miner in their hangar there was this....
believe it or not... it is 100% truth.
They kept it secret OF course.... they had nothing else in the game... they sold it.. and now it has come out into the open.
No-one has cheated or xploited.
Unless there's another one.
http://www.lyndalou.btinternet.co.uk/nebilung.jpg
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Gravedancer
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Posted - 2003.08.06 20:58:00 -
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If you look in the other thread about this topic, I posted the full URL of the screenshot,and you will notice it is in the FICTION area of TTI's website. Its a cleverly edited screenshot which is at least partially from beta. Someone has a copy of photoshop and too much time on their hands.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 06/08/2003 21:05:44
Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 06/08/2003 21:02:52
Mission,
Very interesting.
I like the way the "News" screen is scrolled down to make the casual player believe it was around in June too.
Further enhanced by the icon of the module itself which doesn't have the new "funky" transparent background introduced in the last patch.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Main
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:04:00 -
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The image is most probably a doctored image unless the moderators are offering biased help to tti...
Anyways the wretch, all megacorporations could clear a large belt in an hour or so. You just need a "few" apocalypses and cruisers with a few bestowers as back up...
Main
Everlasting Vendetta Veteran
Member of the Stain Alliance |
Mission
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:06:00 -
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whatever
you try and be helpful and what do you get?
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la'Rei
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:07:00 -
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if you gave me a photo of you, I could put your face in the game, name the item "Shuttle of Retards" put it in, modify some of the stats, and then upload it, and I can say "look at this item! I am your god"
it has your photo, to prove it's not real, BUT, the rest looks 100% real. Now, how can I do that? put 10 minutes into photoshop.
Look at these guys signature pics. If they can do that, dont you think they could do that with some copy-paste graphics EASILY?
-Rei
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Jack Hayden
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:09:00 -
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Mission: *****' Slapped?
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Ithilgore
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:11:00 -
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Hmmm....
http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com/fiction/images/nibelungbase.jpg
I think it's fake
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Mission
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:14:00 -
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if you look at the image i posted you will see its before the last patch... i think.. i don't know.
http://www.lyndalou.btinternet.co.uk/nebilung.jpg
Your all arguing about it being fake and its just a matter of time b4 ccp says that is true.
I bet CCP are working there arse of tracing this back to the original person... maybe for 300mil someone would tell ;)
I personally think that it should not be taken off the current owner.
If it wasn't a bug that caused it, CCP put it there in the hangar for a laugh to see what would happen... either way - NO player is to blame.
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Chall
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:22:00 -
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What if it is true? I mean who is to say they didn't obtain it legally (the way the story says). An item actually intended to be ingame through the actions of a dev/gm. If that is the case what would be peoples reactions?
And no matter what people say I can't believe it's a fake picture. It looks for all things real to me and why make something like this up and post iti so grandly? Even TTI must have forseen this and the hell that would follow when proven to be falsh. That would make them fools, and from how well they do ingame no one can rightly call them fools, like them or not, greedy yes, morally corrupt yes, but fools... no. |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:23:00 -
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Yup..
Having a 0% transparent parent image of the Info Screen makes me believe even more strongly that they used a simple layer/opacity trick to apply it to a current screenshot.
Here's an example of how I can fake it - I know the GUI colours dont match but I couldn't be arsed to make mine match the TTI one and I didn't have time to get the opacity/fill levels exact.
http://www.frothy.org/images/simple-example.jpg
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:25:00 -
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If true = disapointed
not true = still disapointed
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |
Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:32:00 -
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most disappointing of all is the gullibility of people. Sheesh. "TTI you liars! You make something called Fiction and how dare you trick us into thinking it's real!"
Your ancestors ran and hid during the War of the Worlds radio broadcast :P
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:33:00 -
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After the initial knee-jerk, reaction, Harle, most people admit its a fake.
However, what we're most curious about is what TTI were thinking when they posted it.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Mission
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:39:00 -
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/yawn
u won't be told will you.
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Tholian
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:40:00 -
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I'm in TTI, feel free to look me up ingame if you don't believe me. But I will say that the screenshot ISN'T fake. I don't have any concrete proof other than that if you are in TTI you can open our corp hangar in our base here in Venal and look at the mining laser. Believe me or not, I don't care, I just thought i'd throw that out for everyone. 
"The Truth speaks for itself..." (I always did want to use that quote from Babylon 5  ) |
Mission
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Posted - 2003.08.06 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Mission on 06/08/2003 21:55:57
Edited by: Mission on 06/08/2003 21:55:41
who ever posted about the jovian agent giving it... probably believed it.
Maybe TTi believed it when they bought it from whoever sold it last.
???? Josh
the SS on mine is opaque
http://www.lyndalou.btinternet.co.uk/nebilung.jpg
edit: i mean ISN't
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.08.06 22:01:00 -
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Quote:
/yawn
u won't be told will you.
that's called a 'rhtetorical question,' Miss... you should know. TTI and their shills are most adept at rhetoric.
But let's make it simpler, so you understand it.
"wow, TTI are a bunch of humourless ego-inflated jackasses for THIS*****-up, huh? They must thrive on contempt or some twisted Randy principle that assures that that if people hate you, you must be doing something right, which is probably also why they like shacking up with pirates."
That easier on your limited faculties?
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.08.06 22:55:00 -
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I have a whole hangar full of basic miners now. I'm waiting for them to grow...
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Daan
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Posted - 2003.08.06 22:59:00 -
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Quote:
I'm in TTI, feel free to look me up ingame if you don't believe me. But I will say that the screenshot ISN'T fake. I don't have any concrete proof other than that if you are in TTI you can open our corp hangar in our base here in Venal and look at the mining laser. Believe me or not, I don't care, I just thought i'd throw that out for everyone.
"The Truth speaks for itself..." (I always did want to use that quote from Babylon 5 )
make a ss from the laser, inside the hangar then, and not a lousy 1024x768, more like 1600x1200 res :)
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:01:00 -
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you need rubins too, as they seed the basics, out of which grows the precious.
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Shollos
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:12:00 -
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so not only was it an accident they got the one. it was an accident *10* times over? wow, thats some insanely good luck, lol.
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Callidus
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:16:00 -
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This isn't the mining laser you are looking for. Move along.
What you saw was not the mining laser, it was the planet Venus.
Callidus
TTI Corp
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Main
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:20:00 -
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joshua, you have those mining lasers, oh my gosh, i am so disappointed you haven't shared them with the rest of the corporation.
Main
Everlasting Vendetta Veteran
Member of the Stain Alliance |
Roark
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:34:00 -
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Here is another screenshot. Taggart would not lie or cheat about such a thing. It is not what we are about. We play this game straight up.
Some of you need to grab your diapers and jump back in the sandbox.
http://www.taggarttransdimensional.com/fiction/images/screen2.jpg
Jovian items are introduced into the game, and they find their way to the wealthiest corporations. Why do you think the richest people in the US own the most famous home run balls hit? Do you think that Barry Bonds and Babe Ruth hit them to them personally so they could catch it?
Free market baby... best stuff goes to where the most money is. Make fun of TTI for our economic theory and prowess as much as you want in public and continue coming to us in private for the best items in the universe.
Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:45:00 -
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keep singin little bird...
Stav
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:46:00 -
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Wow Roark... that's really very funny you should say that. Since I'm in the CSM meeting talking to devs right now and they say that all the new stuff will not be given to the richest corps, but that everyone will have a chance at it.
Wait for a log on this soon... and I'm going to ask them about this mining laser of yours.
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:47:00 -
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Quote:
continue coming to us in private for the best items in the universe.
Yep, got a bid for 50 mill on Ayn Rands corpse, will be looking for more.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:49:00 -
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"Here is another screenshot. Taggart would not lie or cheat about such a thing."
... It's nice shot, but the way it's arranged doesn't really answer the question. Is Taggart in possession of a single unit of this item, or like the original announcement suggests, is there enough of it to allow TTi to sell it to others in bulk quantities?..
Am sure you can see how while hardly anyone could care less about the former, the latter option would simply put in question the whole point of introduction of lvl.2-4 mining equipment.. *shrugs*
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Fart Nugget
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:50:00 -
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Some of you need to grab your diapers and jump back in the sandbox.
TTI braggarts sure are making a lot of friends today.
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:51:00 -
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Edited by: Arathmon on 06/08/2003 23:52:07
And here is the verdict: it is real. There is, however, a catch...
[ 2003.08.06 23:48:48 ] Arathmon > Now for something that has just cropped up recently on the boards: TTi is claiming to have a 'Nibelung' Particle Bore Stream V. Is there any truth to this and could a GM make a statement on it soon? It is making quite a stir on the boards currently.
[ 2003.08.06 23:49:01 ] Eldariel > :)
[ 2003.08.06 23:49:17 ] TomB > the cause is our
[ 2003.08.06 23:49:18 ] Hellmar > they will all be revoked, promptly
[ 2003.08.06 23:49:25 ] Arathmon > ah... can I quote you on that?
[ 2003.08.06 23:49:26 ] Arathmon > :)
[ 2003.08.06 23:50:32 ] TomB > reason was a ship that is not used by players and had this mining laser as starting equipment, ship exploded and player looted it
[ 2003.08.06 23:50:34 ] Hellmar > I think all that is said here is quotable
[ 2003.08.06 23:50:37 ] Pann > Arathmon, nothing that is said here is confidential.
[ 2003.08.06 23:50:56 ] Arathmon > I know :P
[ 2003.08.06 23:51:01 ] Arathmon > just being facetious
[ 2003.08.06 23:51:11 ] TomB > the mining lasers will sadly be removed from players holding them
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Arathmon
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Posted - 2003.08.06 23:54:00 -
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Ah... Hellmar has just said that they are not Jove lasers anyway.
"Too bad it weren't Jove Lasers that were leaked.
those are the coolest thing in eve."
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Endureth
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Posted - 2003.08.07 00:15:00 -
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[ 2003.08.06 23:51:11 ] TomB > the mining lasers will sadly be removed from players holding them
Why "sadly" removed?
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.07 00:24:00 -
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I'd like to comment on the accusations that TTI has "cheated" and "exploited".
An individual in the game contacted a TTI member and stated a Jovian had given this item to him. He wished to trade this item for another object in the game produced by TTI.
As TTI is probably the wealthiest company in the game it is only logical that someone wanting cash or materials would contact us for a trade knowing we have the resources to conduct such a trade.
The person reported a Jovian had talked to him in game, gaining "information" about his mining activities (right in line with the role-playing nature of Jovians seeking information). The person then docked at a station.
The Jovian messaged him that he had left something outside and to undock immediately. The person did this and found the Jovian was gone but a cargo container was outside with this mining laser in it.
The person then contacted TTI about selling it. I can tell you the price of a battleship pales in comparison to what an item like this is worth.
TTI negotiated and subsequently purchased the item from the member. After running tests to verify its authenticity (indeed I was skeptical about it and warned it might be a photoshop trick when WE we're sent emails about it) the Venal Alliance posted a statement.
CCP has contacted our member and asked for the name of this other "member" which was provided to them (of course). We are committed to playing fair and NOT exploiting or cheating. The name of the Jovian was also provided although we personally have no information as to whether or not this is a GM or CCP member.
Transaction logs will show the course of events. It is our firm belief we operated ENTIRELY within the game mechanics of capitalism and free trade in purchasing this item at a very substantial cost. As we only have the original persons statement as to how the miner was obtained we can not verify the truthfulness of his claim.
That being said though the "in game role-playing" persona of the Jovians indicates a being who is obsessed with the accumulation of knowledge above all else. This would fit entirely into the story told to us by the finder of this mining laser. The Jovian asked him about mining, what he was doing, and other basic information. This is entirely in character (as far as I'm concerned) as to my impression of a Jovian contact situation.
That being said we will see what CCP says. They have the logs of this event and know we have not exploited or cheated to obtain this device. The device is factual and is not a photoshop trick nor is it a "fraud". We invite CCP to post a reply here regarding the logs and to issue a statement indicating TTI has obtained this device ENTIRELY within the mechanics of this game using NO exploits or cheats.
On a personal note I'm very offended that given our history of exposing cheaters and exploiters (we are very outspoken about it) people would accuse us of using these tactics. Rest assured ANYONE discovered by TTI using these methods will be booted from this company. There is no "second chance" here in regards to exploits and cheats.
Calladen Nimitz
TTI Executive
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.07 00:25:00 -
[82]
I will add that given the fact TTI has operated in good faith in this transaction and done nothing wrong we fully expect CCP to issue a refund of ALL money and products in the transaction if they deem the item is to be removed.
Calladen Nimitz
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.08.07 00:39:00 -
[83]
Quote:
I will add that given the fact TTI has operated in good faith in this transaction and done nothing wrong we fully expect CCP to issue a refund of ALL money and products in the transaction if they deem the item is to be removed.
Calladen Nimitz
Now THAT is blatantly taking the ****.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.07 00:46:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Stavros on 07/08/2003 00:53:17
Edited by: Stavros on 07/08/2003 00:47:36
Ok so let me get this straight..
By your own admission you LIKE to expose cheaters and exploiters, and you by your own admission are one of the richest corps in the game. You also have a high number of polaris members in your corp.
Ok...
So some guy comes along and offers you some stuff tech level 5 items that you know FULL well are not available legitimately in game at the moment. Ok so thats what happened...
Now let us look at the facts, NONE of the polaris members of TTI kicked up a stink, yet if jove items were in game as you claim they would DEFINITELY be the first to know.
Secondly if you are so keen on exposing cheaters and exploiters as you say, why not at least check the tech 5 lasers with gms before using them? And if they are found to be fishy report the guy who sold them...
Something stinks here and there are only two possible options as to what happened.
TTI and their polaris people knew about the lasers being dodgey and just 'forgot' to do anything about it.
OR
None of the polaris and other members thought that there was ANYTHING suspicious about an anonymous guy turning up with equipment that is 4 tech levels above what is currently available.
Are you SERIOUSLY saing you were too inane to wonder how the HELL the guns came into the game?
AND THEN YOU ASK FOR A REFUND?
PUUUUUHLEASE...
You are lucky they are just taking the guns off of you, there are members in tti charged with protecting and sheperding the eve community and THIS is how they behave...
Nice show guys!
Oh hey btw, the other day I was in space and this guy turned up with a titan, he said a jove gave it to me WINK WINK and sold it to me for 1mil OMG HOW GOOD EH?
Stav
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.07 00:49:00 -
[85]
Well its true Morkdt. We bought an item from someone in good faith. We have no way of knowing how he obtained it. He told us a story about a Jovian which honestly is right on target with the "role playing information seeking Jovians" we hear about.
Personally if it was a loot item from an exploding ship I would think differently. Until we know from CCP we need to wait and see. That being said we expect a FULL refund for this item as we operated in good faith.
We vigrously defend our right to buy whatever we want and encourage anyone else with unusual items to contact us. CCP's logs show we do not exploit merely purchase. It's called CAPITALISM and it works.
Calladen Nimitz
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.07 00:54:00 -
[86]
and dude stop this WE ARE THE RICHEST CORP IN GAME stuff, you arent even close, go check out stain sometime...
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.07 00:56:00 -
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Sounds to me like quite a few Polaris members need to have their privileges revoked. If CCP cares about their game they will do so.
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2003.08.07 00:56:00 -
[88]
Quite frankly 'F*CK your expectations' for a refund !! 
MOOrovingian  "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.07 00:59:00 -
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Stavos, I won't get into a flame war with you here, we acted in good faith in buying an item from a player in the game. That is ALL we did.
If CCP removes this item from our possession we expect a full refund. We acted in good faith and ENTIRELY within the mechanics of this game.
I have some questions though regarding new tech in this game. Are you suggesting we should email CCP everytime we see a new item ingame to make sure its "ok"?
The entire Jovian personna is one of "information seeking" and "high tech". What would they have left this guy in a can.... a shovel?
This event as reported to us by the person who sold us this miner indicates what I perceive to be a very realistic Jovian first-contact situation. It is how I would play a Jovian. They are a highly advanced race and have high-tech devices.
The point is all we did was take this guys word for it as to how he obtained it. The story sounded good (still sounds good) and is right in line with the perception we all have of Jovians. We've already posted the Jovians name on fiction page as you can see the name this guy provided us WAS factual.
Personally I expect CCP to issue a statement regarding TTI's actions in this event. You can't honestly expect people to ask CCP for an "ok" everytime a new tech device shows up can you? We acted within the game parameters and in good faith with someone. If the beam was obtained in a way other then what this person relayed to us then I expect it to be removed. I also expect TTI, an innocent party, to be fully compensated.
Calladen Nimitz
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:01:00 -
[90]
GM's already told us what this was, there was some kind of starting ship, non player controlled that a player killed and these miners dropped. Its not Jove tech its tech 5. It wasnt given to anyone from a GM and the items will be removed from the players holding them.
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:02:00 -
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Quote:
Well its true Morkdt. We bought an item from someone in good faith. We have no way of knowing how he obtained it. He told us a story about a Jovian which honestly is right on target with the "role playing information seeking Jovians" we hear about.
Personally if it was a loot item from an exploding ship I would think differently. Until we know from CCP we need to wait and see. That being said we expect a FULL refund for this item as we operated in good faith.
We vigrously defend our right to buy whatever we want and encourage anyone else with unusual items to contact us. CCP's logs show we do not exploit merely purchase. It's called CAPITALISM and it works.
Calladen Nimitz
Caladan no offense but "No Flipping way jose".
Anybody who approached me with a TECH 5 item would be on the Coldfront IRC channel to the Polaris/Devs within seconds, not on the way to a fat wallet and a vow of silence.
But not TTi, no, they give the guy X million and a ship, use the item and then post spurious bloody RP hinting a dev gave it them along with blueprints.
Ftlog dont treat the rest of us as morons.. you ALL should have known it was dodgy from teh first second you heard about it. The Polaris members SHOULD have checked, they should have KNOWN!
You were greedy, used it, boasted about it and were caught out.
No way in hell should you get a refund - you should PAY a penalty in ore and hang your combined heads in shame for the whole sordid affair.
NOBODY in TTi thought they might check with polaris/gm/devs?
Yeah right.
The abscence of any such checking is the abscence of good faith.
You know it, I know, everybody knows it.
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Ends
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ends on 07/08/2003 01:09:50
HEH> prolly should have read a bit more before I made that post :P hehe. sorry
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:07:00 -
[93]
Well we are capitalists Morkdt. We're out to make a buck.
Calladen
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:09:00 -
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yes you are capitalists, capitalism is governed by rules and if you buy stolen/dodgey goods you can go to prison for it in real life. So dont come that heap of smack...
Stav
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:11:00 -
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very sad, but I must say I fully agree with Stavros on this.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:11:00 -
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I'm pretty sure if my ship (or any other pirates) was decked out with tech5 weapons and modules I would be banned in uh.. maybe 20 minutes tops. People would cry bloody murder.
TTI gets their hands on tech5 and we're all supposed to congratulate them? They 'roleplay' getting Jovian technology and we're all supposed to give them a collective high five?
Heads should roll for people abusing power like this.
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:16:00 -
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"yes you are capitalists, capitalism is governed by rules and if you buy stolen/dodgey goods you can go to prison for it in real life. So dont come that heap of smack..."
Well if you know they're stolen sure. In this case though we were told a story by someone that sounded good, a Jovian first-contact situation, if it wasn't true I wish it was, the thought of Jovians appearing and talking to people is cool.
You hate TTI and will argue with everything I say so I could care less I guess. I've posted we acted in good faith. I hope CCP releases the name of the person who sold this item to us (I won't) so you can all jump all over him instead of us. HE is the one who obtained this device and if he did lie to us about it - cheated.
Your constant complaints about TTI is like someone blaming a******victim because she had on a short skirt and was enticing. We were the victims here if this person did lie to us. It's not "smack" nor anything else.
Calladen Nimitz
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Mission
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:16:00 -
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Hi.. just a note..
There must be 2 or more of these lazers....
because the screenshot i posted was not looted... it apeared in the hangar in place of a Basic Miner.
I know the person this happened to in RL.
oh.. thats unless CCP is lying or the guy that posted that log is lying :)
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:19:00 -
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dude the guy who sold them to you didnt know better. YOU should of done especially with your polaris contacts.
You know it and so does everyone else..
To deny it is to look stupid.
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:20:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Calladen Nimitz on 07/08/2003 01:24:21
I won't be reply anymore to this thread. Its degenerated into another "hate TTI" flamewar. Personally all we want is to be left alone in game without every clown in town attacking us to "get famous" (that is a motive they've told us in a few cases).
No one can honestly expect people to seek CCP's "ok" everytime a new item appears in space. Jovians are high-tech and they have high-tech stuff. This report as given to us by the seller of this beam was right inline with what I would expect a Jovian encounter to be like. If this person lied to us we are the victim of a fraud by this person.
Our contacts with Polaris, CCP, GM's and Simon and Schuster are not part of our corporation. These parties can grant no favors ingame to TTI nor do we ask for them. As an example I'm STILL waiting on a petition to be fixed for a battleship bp copy bug (two weeks now) so its clear our "friendships" with people do not translate into game benefits. Also this miner was a "secret" among the executives in TTI until it was posted on the website for all to see. It's likely no TTI member who was Polaris even knew about it until everyone else did.
I always admired your combat skills Stavos. I guess I'm personally a little upset that you've turned this from what would've really been a neat ingame encounter with a Jovian (tell me you don't want to believe it) to a personal attack on our real life ethics. We've acted in good faith in buying an item from someone in game. We await CCP's statement.
Calladen Nimitz
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Dragon Emperor
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:21:00 -
[101]
//TomB > reason was a ship that is not used by players and had this mining laser as starting equipment, ship exploded and player looted it//
no agent involved? huh.... then tell me hth that mysterious guy destroy the ship and loot the equipments......
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Nybbas
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:23:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Nybbas on 07/08/2003 01:27:18
Stav- Like you wouldn't have done the same if you bought a tech level 5 hybrid/laser/projectile cannon from some guy who said he just got it dont ask question... it's not like any of us know exactly whats happened unless they have posted the details in the past half hour... So just shut up and stop trolling.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:27:00 -
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i am in no way attackin you real life ethics, and I couldnt care less about TTI or whatever.
I just think the entire affair stinks basically and nothing you can say will change my opinion, or many peoples opinions, on that fact sadly..
For my part I respect your request to wait for a CCP statement on this (although I will be amazed if one is forthcoming as with the time the gms moved m0o around) and I will post no further on this.
Cya
Stav
OMG WAS I REASONABLE IN THIS POST? HOLY ****ZLE 
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 07/08/2003 01:28:39
EEK goddam double post.
And yes we do now know fully what happened, we just await what will be done about it.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:28:00 -
[105]
Quote:
No one can honestly expect people to seek CCP's "ok" everytime a new item appears in space.
They can when its TECH 5 and there aint even TECH 2 in the game.
They can when you have Polaris members onboard who can check EASILY and in SECONDS.
Its not "every item" its one clearly, unambiguously aberant. So much so you invented pages of RP around it.
This isnt about TTi - its about the VERY FEW greedy people who happen to be in TTi and were directly involved.
The fact that they have cast a pall over the integrity of the entirety of the Corporation is for them to answer to their membership, not something for you to drag into this as a decoy.
TTI didn't do "this" - some few within it did.
The "uberest" mining laser in the entire game, that you yourselves can check in your very own TTi Nexus, and nobody thought it odd?
As Kryton would say:
Slap me silly and call me Susan.
You, sir are a cad.
If you get your Apocalypse back i think i will quit the game in total, abject disgust.
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Eurydike
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:35:00 -
[106]
Umh... well... OK... I understand you bought the thing, I can understand (somewhat) the way you handled the situation.
But from a purely "real life jurisdictional" point of view, CCP doesn't have to give you the money back, but the person you bought it from.
CCP says the item will be taken out of the game, so let's say it has been "stolen" from CCP. They notice it and get it back. So they take it from you, because you have it now. Tough luck - I would probably cry, too, admittedly, but well... you have the name of the person that sold you the miner, get the money back from him, or ask CCP (as this is a somewhat special case with all this "Shouldn't be in the game yet"-thingy) to transfer the money from his account back to your corp wallet.
If you buy stolen goods in real life, you won't be refunded at all - especially not when it's some ³bersecret governmental project that you got.
Note: This is not a flame or anything, just my point of view.
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ga'ia
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Posted - 2003.08.07 01:39:00 -
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1. They are not Jovie tech
2. They will be removed.
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PussyCat
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Posted - 2003.08.07 02:23:00 -
[108]
I Think It's bull****. Roark that Produces bs wanted 2 buy minerals from me SO why buy minerals from me when he easly could mine all that ****. 
2003.08.03 01:48:00
*****cat I could not help but notice I have not received that shipment of around 20 mil in minerals I requested.ØØSince then, my inventory has changed (of course), so I need something differentØØ20 million Trit (at 1.4)Ø4 million Pyrite (at 5)Ø250K Isogen (at 64)ØØ
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.08.07 03:03:00 -
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hmm...
Well... all I know is that the first thing I would have done if I stumbled across a Tech 5 item is to fill out a decent petition and maybe contact a Polaris guy or GM or whatever about this thing.
I think everyone who played EvE for more than 3 days knows for a fact that Tech 5 items can¦t/shouldn¦t be available and that whenever you see one of those things something must be bloody wrong.
And about this "cool Jovian story" thing you referred to:
CCP keeps roleplaying everything. Heck they even roleplay bugs and write about them right here on the player website and you really think they wouldn¦t do anything like this if they did the first JOVIAN ENCOUNTER ingame? Come on...
I have nothing against TTI, in fact I like your corp and I have lots of respect for you guys, but this is just wrong... and to be honest I think you know exactly what I¦m talking about.
Whether you should get your money back? I think that¦s up for CCP to decide because only they have the logs and know what was really going on.
Whatever will be the outcome of this... I¦d just like to ask people to stay honest.
Actually I¦m pretty happy that this whole story came up because it would be pretty f-ed up if nobody know about it. Maybe CCP wouldn¦t even have noticed that this item is actually ingame?
I¦m also pretty exited to hear CCPs statement about this since this is a pretty serious issue. I mean... those items SHOULD NOT be in the game but they are, so what¦s the matter here and is there a possibility that even more items dropped into the game like this?
What¦s the matter CCP? I think it¦s about time you start making immediate statements about issues like these. It¦s not like we¦re dealing with something minor important here, this is a pretty big*** thing IMO.
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Neptunus
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Posted - 2003.08.07 04:09:00 -
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I belive the TTI story wholeheartedly.
Everyone knows the Jovians are out there and they are part of the BIG story. It is not that unlikely that GMs might be out distributing "godly" items to help introduce the Jovians to the game.
It's all clearly CCP's fault for allowing this item to be in the game. It's not TTI's fault for trying to acquire it. What do you think they would spend 500 million ISK on it and then fill out a bug report!?!
How many more of these things are out there? How anyone can blame TTI for this is beyond me. It seems pretty typical of Morkt, the so-called journalist.
All games have "godly" items, like I said. Why would TTI (or anyone) expect Eve to be any different? And especially with how well it fits into the role playing of the Jovian story.
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Princess Akmazara
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Posted - 2003.08.07 04:32:00 -
[111]
Neptunus perhaps you need to give Mordkt some well deserved credit. He is merely extolling the popular opinion that capitalists like Taggart will do anything and walk all over anyone to get what they want.
The proper thing to do in this case would be to donate the beam to science. Hold it for reverse engineering then distribute them to all the needy people in Caldari space who struggle to put food on their familiesÆ tables.
It's clear the capitalists will stop at nothing to dominate the weak and underprivileged. While Taggart is wealthy and powerful they are also without scruples. I have no doubt the story the gentleman "Calladen" posted is true he seems honest in his posts but what is also clear is they have made no apologies for walking on the backs of innocents in their quest for economic dominance.
Rather then helping the needy and providing food and shelter they simply walk by and refuse to help. They are the epitome of "I don't care".
While I too wish this story was true and the Jovians were out giving "Godly" devices to a fortunate few I also believe the greater community village of our society has a moral obligation to share such astounding finds with the rest of the galaxy.
Princess Akmazara
Amarrian Empire
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chest Goddess
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Posted - 2003.08.07 04:48:00 -
[112]
Hello boys |
Paris
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Posted - 2003.08.07 05:07:00 -
[113]
I think what happened is kinda simple...
A gm friend of tti gave them the lazer as there storey indicated then realizeing they screwed up royally when making a big post about it they start backpeddling and comeing up with 20 posts about how it was rp'd, or how they just found it.
What makes it worse for everyone else to swallow i think is knowing if this happened to anyone else apart from tti they would be suspended/banned and same for the gm =/ but because tti have so many members and eve basically needs every single customer they can lay there grubby hands on this will be whitewashed over.
You all think your untouchable because your the big corp with all the polaris guys and gms on there second accnts in..
When the game goes **** up you know at least you wont have far to go to complain eh
This whole affair is a fckign joke
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.08.07 05:17:00 -
[114]
also i noticed a "pod kill" in jovian space... in an unreachable system...  
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Grandorr
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Posted - 2003.08.07 05:30:00 -
[115]
You know what would put all these rumors to rest is to actually show some people the laser. Everyone goes home happy, we dont waste our lives posting 7 pages of crap
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Kaleb
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Posted - 2003.08.07 05:41:00 -
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This is sad. How about a full investigation and explanation CCP? FFS, how do you plan to keep customers with this sort of crap going on.
CCP obviously promotes cheating and favouring of certain people/corps in the game. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that a CCP developer gave this to a friend of his or hers in game, or that even CCP devs are in TTI with anonymous characters.
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Glamdring
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As was posted earlier, TomB has stated that this item was looted from a destroyed ship. This item was not gained by using "contacts inside Polaris, CCP and Siminn".
In fact, the members of Polaris cannot do such things as Morkt Drak has stated. The statement "They can when you have Polaris members onboard who can check EASILY and in SECONDS." is false. Polaris volunteers, in fact, cannot check this.
Volunteers in most online games have fewer abilities than most people think. A volunteer's primary tool is their knowledge and experience, not their in game abilities.
The bottom line is that that the item was not "handed out" or given to someone as a favor or because of their contacts. TomB has made this very clear and this situation will be dealt with by CCP and the laser removed from the game.
"TomB: Reason was that a ship that is not used by players and had this mining laser as starting equipment. Ship exploded and player looted it."
"TomB: the mining lasers will sadly be removed from players holding them"
Glamdring
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