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Lothendra
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Posted - 2005.11.06 19:59:00 -
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Now, what i would like more than anything else, would be a tech 2 box of jaffa cakes, in my hangar... icon and all 
oh, and quite possibly a jaffa cake bpo and a big pile of chocolate and "smashing orangey bit" to make them out of.
That would be worth making 50 billion alts for 
but maybe i'm alone in this 
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.11.06 20:44:00 -
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Hmmm.
It's a prize draw, that you (or your buddy) have to pay money in order to enter?
Well that's illegal for certain in the UK, and I'm pretty sure it's illegal in a whole slew of other countries, so I'd take another think on this one.
I'd hate to see EVE shut down because the developers made such a collosally stupid mistake as this.
Celt Corp - members of ISS |

Jenz
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Posted - 2005.11.06 20:46:00 -
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"No Purchase Necessary"
I believe that's the usual get-out-clause they use.
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.11.06 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Though possibly number 24 got moved up one place 
No, I didn't 
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
Sovereignty 2.0 |

MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2005.11.06 21:18:00 -
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/me also hopes that as well as allowing eBay to play a part in EVE the same sort of time restriction will soon be placed on Tranquility as will be inherent to Serenity
It is totally unfair that unemployed people and students have a RL advantage because they have more time to play the game !!
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Drilla
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Posted - 2005.11.06 21:59:00 -
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I Denmark, what CCP is doing is illegal - just ask McDonalds, they got busted just last week.
I wonder how the icelandic laws are on this.
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |

StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.11.06 22:23:00 -
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worst idea you have ever had ccp STAN
FACTA NON VERBA ALTS FTL |

Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.11.07 00:01:00 -
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Don't see why people are getting worked up about this.
But for what it's worth a fully kitted with commander gear faction BS is kinda overboard. PS. I want a poster signed by Oveur ! (oh wait I'm already getting one :D)
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infused
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Posted - 2005.11.07 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: infused on 07/11/2005 00:09:47 People have been asking for rewards for the buddy program for ages... so keep quiet :S
edit: god dammit, someone just put a bounty on me.
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Zoidberg ENB
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Posted - 2005.11.07 00:15:00 -
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How do you explain this from a role play persepctive? This game has tons of backstory, and can be great for role playing. This totally just ruins that whole element of the game. It's like you write a story and say the main character got a yacht from God because he converted someone to God's favorite religion. It's not realistic, and doesn't fit in with the story.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.11.07 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zoidberg ENB How do you explain this from a role play persepctive? This game has tons of backstory, and can be great for role playing. This totally just ruins that whole element of the game. It's like you write a story and say the main character got a yacht from God because he converted someone to God's favorite religion. It's not realistic, and doesn't fit in with the story.
Donation from some NPC corporation as a good will gift.
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Rillian
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Posted - 2005.11.07 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur There is absolutely nothing wrong with giving the occasional in-game item for out-of-game activity. This has been happening for years in EVE and in other MMO's.
This has got nothing to do with cost, we're simply givin what people what they want most. Sure, I can sign a poster and send it to them, but personally I'd much rather get a Bhaalgorn 
intrinsicly no theres nothing wrong with this , yet how do you balance this? what about the other players in game that either don't know anyone or dont know people who like EVE , and lets not forget about all those others who already invited/told their friends and are currently playing before this announcement.
the contest at the fanfest thats a cool thing but honestly this sign up lottery is a real slap in the face to most people you'r rewarding only part of the huge eve community not every one will be able to partcipate in this unless they either A) got a lot of friends that might be interested in joining eve ..or B) got insane amount of $$ to buy more accounts.
so my question is how do you balance this? so people won't feel left out and alienated by CCP
Oveur I only know of in game items being rewarded to in game activitys here in EVE besides the fanfest stuff (which I thought was a way cool idea) and no items being awarded to any out of game activitys
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Kael D'mende
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Posted - 2005.11.07 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur There is absolutely nothing wrong with giving the occasional in-game item for out-of-game activity. This has been happening for years in EVE and in other MMO's.
This has got nothing to do with cost, we're simply givin what people what they want most. Sure, I can sign a poster and send it to them, but personally I'd much rather get a Bhaalgorn 
I would rather have a miniture figure of my chosen ship ;O) *hehe* (Muninn or Vaga in my case) <- want the addy Oveur ? *lol* :O)
/Kael
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Kingpenn
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:15:00 -
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Lets get ready to ebay all we want too.
CCP is setting the rules for out of game $ buying ingame items, so lets just sit back and join in on the fun of selling our in game items for RL $ and CCP can't say squat, after all, CCP is doing the very same!
EBAY and EVE items, yep, sure thing...   the answer is...42. |

theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Dukath what scares me the most is that they are doing this at the same time they are taking things away from the game simply because the servers can't handle the current number of players.
maybe they should put advertising on a low until they get the servers back under control?
I wonder if CCP are going to realise that ****ing off the old players who drive a lot of this marvelous "player created content" is a bad thing.
Great more people who I can't fight because current battles are to laggy anyway. More people who get to enjoy less game as things are removed to reduce lag.
And I heard the noise of thunder. And I looked and behold: a pale horse. And his name, that sat on him, was Death. And Hell followed with him |

Summersnow
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur There is absolutely nothing wrong with giving the occasional in-game item for out-of-game activity. This has been happening for years in EVE and in other MMO's.
This has got nothing to do with cost, we're simply givin what people what they want most. Sure, I can sign a poster and send it to them, but personally I'd much rather get a Bhaalgorn 
if I give an in game item out on ebay to someone for there out of game contribution you'd BAN MY ASS...
Given that you're giving the chineese the green light to ***** out in game items for cash and are now doing it yourselves this really makes your anti-ebay policy hypocritical BS.
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infused
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
Originally by: Dukath what scares me the most is that they are doing this at the same time they are taking things away from the game simply because the servers can't handle the current number of players.
maybe they should put advertising on a low until they get the servers back under control?
I wonder if CCP are going to realise that ****ing off the old players who drive a lot of this marvelous "player created content" is a bad thing.
Great more people who I can't fight because current battles are to laggy anyway. More people who get to enjoy less game as things are removed to reduce lag.
Stop being so god damm stupid.
This isn't going to change anything. You just feel the need to whine whine whine... go play wow and whine with the rest of them.
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Kingpenn
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
I perfectly understand your worries, that's why we severely limit the occasions where we give in-game stuff for oog activity.
and we will all limit how often we sell items on ebay...following the same presidence as you set ol'wise one...can't punish the players for doing what CCP is doing can you... the answer is...42. |

infused
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Posted - 2005.11.07 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kingpenn
Originally by: Oveur
I perfectly understand your worries, that's why we severely limit the occasions where we give in-game stuff for oog activity.
and we will all limit how often we sell items on ebay...following the same presidence as you set ol'wise one...can't punish the players for doing what CCP is doing can you...
Get your facts right:
You're selling something that belongs to CPP.
CPP are rewarding referals with in game items, not real money.
It's not going to effect the eco or anything.
Can you see the difference?
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Gwenvahar
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Posted - 2005.11.07 06:00:00 -
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Edited by: Gwenvahar on 07/11/2005 06:00:56
Originally by: Summersnow
Originally by: Oveur There is absolutely nothing wrong with giving the occasional in-game item for out-of-game activity. This has been happening for years in EVE and in other MMO's.
This has got nothing to do with cost, we're simply givin what people what they want most. Sure, I can sign a poster and send it to them, but personally I'd much rather get a Bhaalgorn 
if I give an in game item out on ebay to someone for there out of game contribution you'd BAN MY ASS...
Given that you're giving the chineese the green light to ***** out in game items for cash and are now doing it yourselves this really makes your anti-ebay policy hypocritical BS.
No MMORPG has yet to stop ebay from taking responsability for the fact that it is their service which empowers and promotes the trend. ebay claims to cooperate with MMORPG companies by removing auctions when reported in most cases. However even going that far is a stretch because there is very little possibility of prosecution. The people who are on ebay making the offers are not stupid by any perspective. They know how to bend and abuse every regulation involved, they know how to conceal their identities very well, and when caught are not slowed down at all in their agendas through banning.
For the selling IG items for RL cash, cry to ebay and otehr online services which promote the abuse, not CCP. For the giving out of free stuff to players by CCP, STFU and quit yer cryin. Theres no balance issue, and to say it vilolated some principle.. spare me..
CCP aparantly has been doing that from the begining in one aspect or another. No one can keep all the people happy all the time.
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Scrammer
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Posted - 2005.11.07 07:08:00 -
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This is what CCP needs.
ECLA (End Creator Liscense Agreement)
There's only 1 section to this agreement.
1. We will always have the ability to completely, utterly, fully, wholesomly, satisfyingly, and uberduperstuberfinglemuppetipuddilingly pwn you, our game, and any items created/produced/traded/destroyed in our said game at any time...including pink Eris Loves Me complimentary shuttles & signed posters by Oveur "teh tard." 1a. We like pie.
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Teblin
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Posted - 2005.11.07 07:25:00 -
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This thread is going nowhere, so I'm locking it. The questions posed have been, to my mind, sufficiently answered by Oveur and yet are still popping up, a lot of them being posted by people who have not read oveur's explanatory posts. I'll summarise:
The raffle is being held monthly with each person having a number of tickets equal to the number of buddy program free trial accounts they gave out who subsequently signed up to eve after the trial runs out.
This means that each ticket equates to someone somwhere signing up for at least a month of eve. Buddy accounts which do not pay to subscribe will not be entered into the draw. This eliminates abuse as it will cost the perpetrator a lot of money to "buy" raffle tickets.
If someone decides to go ahead and sign up a bunch of dummy accounts and shell out the hundreds of pounds required to get a few raffle tickets for the month, their chance of winning will be insubstantial because there are currently thousands of users per month who sign up to play eve after using a buddy program free trial account. Signing up alts will do nothing but waste your money.
In the highly unlikely event that someone does sign up over ten thousand accounts at a cost of a hundred thousand pounds to pay for a month on each of them, he isn't guaranteed to win a prize but is almost guaranteed a game ban for it .
Regardless of the amount of ISK these items are worth currently in-game, adding one more per month is also insignificant in the grand scheme of things because the number of these coming into the game per month through in-game means is very high. One more a month is not going to kill the economy or derail prices in the slightest. Only oveur knows how many enter the game per day and he assures us that it is a very large number.
The benefits are that once a month, three account owners out of over seventy thousand will be surprised with something nice for introducing a friend to the game. They could introduce one friend or one hundred, it's still a raffle and winning is based entirely on chance. There is no way to rig or stack the raffle without spending several hundred thousand pounds.
The most important benefit of this is that people have more incentive to introduce their friends to eve. More players means a larger, more involved gaming world and helps CCP push the limits of server technology. More players also means more money for CCP to spend on the development of the game and server technology to improve our gameplay.
If you have any problems with this system, the forums is not the place to discuss it. Please send a mail to CCP (not to the forum mods, please) or perhaps raise the issue in the next scheduled devchat. As always, if you have any questions about or problems with this moderator action or any other, please contact the forum moderators at [email protected] and be sure to include a link to thread in question along with your character name for reference and as some issues require us to know them before proceeding.
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