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Aralieus Shadowbane Syndicate 133	Posted - 2013.06.06 12:39:00 - [91] - Quote dude, ** null...no seriously ** em. Aral does was Aral wants to do! Oderint Dum Metuant
dexington Caldari Provisions Caldari State 649	Posted - 2013.06.06 12:44:00 - [92] - Quote Zak Breen wrote: James Amril-Kesh wrote: "Sandbox" doesn't mean there are no rules or limitations. Sandboxes have walls and they're governed by laws of physics. Someone's activities in the sandbox can be augmented or hampered by someone else's. We can build a really big sandcastle together. I can **** on your sandcastle. We can't make our sandcastles levitate, though, nor can you build a nuclear bomb out of sand. Laws of physics in a universe where planets don't orbit and ships stop by simply turning off their propulsion... Eve is a very realistic submarine simulator. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
WarFireV Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion 89	Posted - 2013.06.06 12:49:00 - [93] - Quote Hello, I am from the nullsec. I am here to confirm your statements, the nullsec does control all your game. If you have any complaints about your game experience, please submit them to the correct party and we will do all we can to help you improve said experience. Have a good day.
Seniae 0n3 35	Posted - 2013.06.06 12:50:00 - [94] - Quote WarFireV wrote: Hello, I am from the nullsec. I am here to confirm your statements, the nullsec does control all your game. If you have any complaints about your game experience, please submit them to the correct party and we will do all we can to help you improve said experience. Have a good day. LOL!
Anyura Ministry of War Amarr Empire 129	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:01:00 - [95] - Quote Julius Rigel wrote: Sethose Olderon wrote: After playing Eve for almost seven years, I have come to an ultimate conclusion. Took you long enough. Sethose Olderon wrote: After several attempts to achieve the goal of building an Alliance and claiming sovereignty on its own terms I've realized this is impossible. But you're not in an alliance... Also, we're still going to graciously offer to store your stuff in our hangars until you change your mind and re-sub. Nothing you say past "I'm leaving" is going to prevent that. I'm not offering to store his stuff. I'm going to take and sell it to the first disreputable swine I can find, then blow the cash on faction ships I can't afford to replace. ...."Store it", he says....
Taos D'Heretic Sons of The Forge SpaceMonkey's Alliance 3	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:10:00 - [96] - Quote So if we cant have your stuff or wallet, that means some part of your mind no matter how small believes it will return.
Mathrin Synthetic Solution Synthetic Systems 85	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:12:00 - [97] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Gallowmere Rorschach wrote: It sounds to me like you want less "sandbox" and more "god mode". No 50-200 man group should be able to thoroughly topple a 5000+ man alliance and take their space, unless the larger group allows them to do so (or some crafty metagame ** is pulled off). I don't care what your ego says should be possible, that just wouldn't make sense if it could be done. Reality is stranger than fiction. Meet... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_York Quote:** After his platoon suffered heavy casualties and 3 other noncommissioned officers had become casualties, Cpl. York assumed command. Fearlessly leading 7 men, he charged with great daring a machine gun nest which was pouring deadly and incessant fire upon his platoon. In this heroic feat the machine gun nest was taken, together with 4 officers and 128 men and several guns. Oh, it should be able to happen in actual combat, with mechanics to allow it. Well since we are going down this path why don't you tell me how they did against the nightly counter attacks. Who did they daily supply runs? Yea they won a battle but I highly doubt they were able to control the land in a 10'mile radius radius by them selves for long.
Gallowmere Rorschach Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables 61	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:19:00 - [98] - Quote WarFireV wrote: Hello, I am from the nullsec. I am here to confirm your statements, the nullsec does control all your game. If you have any complaints about your game experience, please submit them to the correct party and we will do all we can to help you improve said experience. Have a good day. My enjoyment of this game would be increased exponentially if you guys could hotdrop at least a full AHAC fleet on top of the OP the next time he and his group of four people even try to drop an SBU. Hell, I'd even pay for the fuel, so long as video proof of his tears was collected.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance 5461	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:20:00 - [99] - Quote Zak Breen wrote: James Amril-Kesh wrote: "Sandbox" doesn't mean there are no rules or limitations. Sandboxes have walls and they're governed by laws of physics. Someone's activities in the sandbox can be augmented or hampered by someone else's. We can build a really big sandcastle together. I can **** on your sandcastle. We can't make our sandcastles levitate, though, nor can you build a nuclear bomb out of sand. Laws of physics in a universe where planets don't orbit and ships stop by simply turning off their propulsion... Do you understand what an analogy is? -áMy (mostly boring) Youtube channel.
Adunh Slavy 930	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:21:00 - [100] - Quote Hey CCP, whatever happened to the low sec Viceroy idea?

Demented471 20th Legion Tribal Band 11	Posted - 2013.06.06 13:59:00 - [101] - Quote The Tear Tank is strong in this one There was once was a man from Jita..
Doc Severide State War Academy Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.06.06 14:05:00 - [102] - Quote I've seen things change over the years I don't like, some of them I really don't like. But I adapt. Period. I will never quit EVE, it's way too much fun and for the few things I don't like, many many new things happen I take advantage of....
Ghinza Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.06.06 14:24:00 - [103] - Quote Posting because I'd hate to leave everyone with the impression that condescending ass-hattery is acceptable to all readers. To the OP, you have the patience of a saint to put up with personal attacks without calling them all jerkwads.
mama guru Thundercats The Initiative. 129	Posted - 2013.06.06 15:09:00 - [104] - Quote Here's for you OP. You should litsen to that and get some insigt into what the CSM actually does. Can't speak for PL or Goons but nobody in Init. is playing malcanis like a puppet on strings. You need to get your head out of your rear end and think a little. ______ EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.
Ramona McCandless Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard 114	Posted - 2013.06.06 15:15:00 - [105] - Quote Ghinza wrote: Posting because I'd hate to leave everyone with the impression that condescending ass-hattery is acceptable to all readers. To the OP, you have the patience of a saint to put up with personal attacks without calling them all jerkwads. Agreed. He can be a space gypsy if he likes and I approve. "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt Tell The Others
Gallowmere Rorschach Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables 73	Posted - 2013.06.06 15:15:00 - [106] - Quote Ghinza wrote: Posting because I'd hate to leave everyone with the impression that condescending ass-hattery is acceptable to all readers. To the OP, you have the patience of a saint to put up with personal attacks without calling them all jerkwads. ...Get out.
Sexy Cakes Have A Seat 319	Posted - 2013.06.06 15:15:00 - [107] - Quote Up until about 2 years ago EVE was going whatever path it wanted to basically. Only in the last year have they started to address power creep and also stop breathing down everyone's neck who isn't in nullsec. Its going to take a good amount of time to get everything in the shape it should be, (assuming they don't have another brainfart Incarna episode) so hunker in, plex your accounts and train up skills while putting your faith in Fozzie and Rise. Not today spaghetti.
mama guru Thundercats The Initiative. 129	Posted - 2013.06.06 15:21:00 - [108] - Quote Sexy Cakes wrote: Up until about 2 years ago EVE was going whatever path it wanted to basically. Only in the last year have they started to address power creep and also stop breathing down everyone's neck who isn't in nullsec. Its going to take a good amount of time to get everything in the shape it should be, (assuming they don't have another brainfart Incarna episode) so hunker in, plex your accounts and train up skills while putting your faith in Fozzie and Rise. Blocs have been a staple of nullsec politics since the first BOB war. This was in late 2006 to early 2007 and onwards. If you argue this you were not here back then, it's that simple. Edit: Anyone remember the R64 bottleneck and T2 BPO lottery? EVE, like every sandbox has walls. ______ EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.
CompleteFailure Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement 42	Posted - 2013.06.06 15:24:00 - [109] - Quote Oh looks, it's this thread again.
Helios Aquiness The Rising Stars Academy 15	Posted - 2013.06.06 15:37:00 - [110] - Quote People say EVE isnt really a sandbox game is due mostly to the fact that it is a sandbox game. Its the players hording all the nullsec areas that make it seem like you cant do what you want. Technically you CAN, but you need to play by their rules or find a clever way to work around it. When I first started, I had one goal. Fly the biggest most badass ships available. Then I found that titans and super carriers needed an alliance to build it for you. So I had a second goal. Make a name for myself in industry and set up my own moon mineing operation. Same problem, only alliances can really do that effectivly, Yes it is POSSIBLE for one man in an alt corp to do it but the big boys usually wont let them. As much as I would love to be a lone wolf in a interactive world, nearlly every MMO out there seems to frown on that. Minecraft is really the only game where you can play online with people and still do everything alone if you wish. But its not in space :(. I stick with it, I always do, but one day, Im sure there will come an mmo, one where you can perform EVERY aspect of the game alone, but still have others to play with and show off too if you wish.

Sexy Cakes Have A Seat 319	Posted - 2013.06.06 15:43:00 - [111] - Quote mama guru wrote: Blocs have been a staple of nullsec politics since the first BOB war. This was in late 2006 to early 2007 and onwards. If you argue this you were not here back then, it's that simple. Edit: Anyone remember the R64 bottleneck and T2 BPO lottery? EVE, like every sandbox has walls. No one cares how long you've played, it's that simple. EVE players like you always give me a chuckle. My point was (that you obviously didn't get) is that EVE is getting more balanced and therefore shouldn't be such a struggle for the OP to enjoy what he was trying to do in EVE. Not today spaghetti.
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 203	Posted - 2013.06.06 15:52:00 - [112] - Quote Sexy Cakes wrote: Only in the last year have they started to address power creep and also stop breathing down everyone's neck who isn't in nullsec. About time. Because a MMO that's only about pewpewpew, misses a very important part of it...socialization. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Gizznitt Malikite agony unleashed Agony Empire 2190	Posted - 2013.06.06 16:34:00 - [113] - Quote A couple of thoughts.... NPC Nullsec is generally the "optimal" optoin for small corps wanting to live and experience nullsec without kissing ass to large alliances, but even there you can get pushed around! The current Sov System is pretty prohibitive to "small groups" attempting to gain a foothold, and that should change. Realize, I don't advocate that a small group should be able to simply push some big coalition out of an area, and fully support giving coalitions the ability to have as much space as they desire with the ability to drown any kiddies that enter the "big boys" pool. However, the Sov mechanics should remove the "benefits" of simply holding space as some buffer zone, and really enforce the idea that if you don't use it, it becomes much easier to lose. I'd go so far as to eliminate all RF timers on Stations/IHUBs in any system that doesn't have an activity index (Indy, Military) to 1. I also admit that these are imperfect indexes for "system activity", not capturing Research, Manufacturing, Marketeering, and PvP, so additional activity indexes may be required.
Ramona McCandless Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard 123	Posted - 2013.06.06 16:39:00 - [114] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: About time. Because a MMO that's only about pewpewpew, misses a very important part of it...socialization. Ace Uoweme wrote: misses a very important part of it...socialization. Ace Uoweme wrote: socialization. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1Jqu70c6XE "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt Tell The Others
Infinity Ziona Cloakers 56	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:04:00 - [115] - Quote Helios Aquiness wrote: People say EVE isnt really a sandbox game is due mostly to the fact that it is a sandbox game. Its the players hording all the nullsec areas that make it seem like you cant do what you want. Technically you CAN, but you need to play by their rules or find a clever way to work around it. When I first started, I had one goal. Fly the biggest most badass ships available. Then I found that titans and super carriers needed an alliance to build it for you. So I had a second goal. Make a name for myself in industry and set up my own moon mineing operation. Same problem, only alliances can really do that effectivly, Yes it is POSSIBLE for one man in an alt corp to do it but the big boys usually wont let them. As much as I would love to be a lone wolf in a interactive world, nearlly every MMO out there seems to frown on that. Minecraft is really the only game where you can play online with people and still do everything alone if you wish. But its not in space :(. I stick with it, I always do, but one day, Im sure there will come an mmo, one where you can perform EVERY aspect of the game alone, but still have others to play with and show off too if you wish. Its not a sandbox game in null. The mechanics have been changed in null so that thers really only one way to play there and thats huge power bloc blob warrfare. Take away those mechanics that force players to play to that one style and you have sandbox again. Things like ease of power projection, cheap supercap n cap travel its a cancer to other groups trying to make a start in a remote part of null - because there is no remote section when within a short space of time a power bloc half way across the map can open a cyno drop a huge fleet in with almost no effort or risk and be back in save systems in no time at all.
Gallowmere Rorschach Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables 87	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:19:00 - [116] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Sexy Cakes wrote: Only in the last year have they started to address power creep and also stop breathing down everyone's neck who isn't in nullsec. About time. Because a MMO that's only about pewpewpew, misses a very important part of it...socialization. You've obviously never been on forums or comms belonging to the likes of Test, PL, NC., Goons, or any other decent sized nullsec entity. The fights are only a small part of it. ** man, go read Kugu if you want a small glimmer of the interaction that nullsec entities have with each other. Yeah, there's a lot of -talking and the like, but that's par for the course with any competitive game. Nullsec is ALL about the socialization, because frankly, from a mechanics standpoint, it's boring as **. If you don't have friends out there, you have little reason to be there anyway.
Hicksimus Hyperion Corporation 182	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:45:00 - [117] - Quote Are the rewards for holding Sov terrible? Not really. Are the rewards for holding Sov silly? Sometimes, yes. It's the end game so far as EvE is concerned and it should be valuable. Is value added to it in the right way though? Not in my opinion. I don't really know what exactly makes it feel weird, but the rewards don't feel natural. When I'm ratting in nullsec and gaining security status and earning 2.5m per minute in bounty sometimes I think that would be best left to lowsec. It would feel natural to be rewarded for doing so there. When I get a wonderful loot drop worth 1 billion, that feels natural, those are the benefits because it's EvE's version of the endgame. But how could we possibly make this work? Perhaps a modified milspec system where ratting provides some direct value but provides more sites of the pirate faction bringing in random special characters to try to bolster their presence at the end of an anom? And/Or Less direct value for running anoms and more escalations would also do nicely. TL: DR : By not making the reward system feel natural you cause some to dislike it and that creates all sorts of different expressions of dislike. This may be the root of many different types of complaints. Nullsec should = phat loot and great ore, Lowsec should = less loot, more anti-piracy reward, mediocre ore, Highsec should be approximately what it is now. Do you have it?
Cipher Jones The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars 663	Posted - 2013.06.06 18:53:00 - [118] - Quote Quote: Do you really think your silly outburst is going to make CCP change EVE just for you? Guess you missed the first time it happened? From: Tommas De'Wins To: Cipher Jones Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha
Zimmy Zeta Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 22158	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:23:00 - [119] - Quote Hello OP! I am very sorry to hear that you plan to quit Eve and furthermore that you don't intend to pass on your stuff. Unfortunately, according to forum rules, resignation threads will be moved to Out Of Pod Experience (OOPE). Maybe you didn't know this yet- to make things a little clearer, I made a diagram that might explain it a little better and hopefully may serve you well for future reference: http://i.imgur.com/tvvl6WG.jpg On the plus side, once this thread is in OOPE, we will lighten the mood of it by posting lots of ponies in here. Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse
ConranAntoni Empyrean Warriors Insidious Empire 68	Posted - 2013.06.06 19:39:00 - [120] - Quote And no ***** were given.



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