Eve is not unlimited freedom, the sandbox has it's limits. There are technical limitations, some limitations comes from the game design and there are limitations that comes from having to share the sandbox with other players.

Think about what you are trying to do, you want to go to the most competitive area in eve, take territory from other players, and you are upset about they are not going to make it easy for you. You decide you want to do it on your own, without any help, they decide to count on the help of friends and allies.

The sandbox has limits that are beyond player control.

Which is why EvE is NOT a true sandbox game.

The sandbox has limits that are beyond player control.

Which is why EvE is NOT a true sandbox game. Players are set in how much they can do, when they can do it, how they can do it and where they can do it. No different that the limits placed on players in other, yes, themepark games.

If I wanted to bomb the 18 or ships outside the Caldari Naval station in Jita, in a true sandbox game I could. In EvE I can't because the very PvPers I'd be bombing will cry and whine about "unfairness". They'll cry and moan about lost assets. Their CSM buddies will come in and proclaim it's a travesty costing billions of ISK.

EvE is a conditional sandbox game. Not a true sandbox game where the player is king.

The sandbox has limits that are beyond player control.

Which is why EvE is NOT a true sandbox game. Players are set in how much they can do, when they can do it, how they can do it and where they can do it. No different that the limits placed on players in other, yes, themepark games.

If I wanted to bomb the 18 or ships outside the Caldari Naval station in Jita, in a true sandbox game I could. In EvE I can't because the very PvPers I'd be bombing will cry and whine about "unfairness". They'll cry and moan about lost assets. Their CSM buddies will come in and proclaim it's a travesty costing billions of ISK.

EvE is a conditional sandbox game. Not a true sandbox game where the player is king.

His master will lock him in a corner somewhere for a week, then all will be well.

Now seriously, can I have your stuff? It's not like you'll need it anymore.

Anyone who doesn't give away their stuff is still leaving the door open to coming back. Doesn't show commitment if you ask me.

So how do we manage to "bomb" the hundreds of fools often in ships with billions in cargo?

Did you bomb the hundreds of ships that pass thru that naval station in Jita?

Or in the conditional zone called null?

Oh man you really have no idea what's been going on for the last 18 months...

Oh man you really have no idea ...

After playing Eve for almost seven years, I have come to an ultimate conclusion. I'm the type of person that wants to find my own path, and not follow under anyone else's rules (nullsec blocks). After several attempts to achieve the goal of building an Alliance and claiming sovereignty on its own terms I've realized this is impossible.

Why? Two main reasons.

First, and foremost, Eve is dominated by Nullsec. Their culture, tactics, and influence is impossible to counter or side-step. Anyone who attempts to do so is curb-stomped and eliminated. Either you play by their rules, or you can take your toys and go home --the epitome of playground politics.

Secondly, CCP is in love with nullsec. All the members of the CSM are nullsec clowns bowing to the whims of their maniacal masters. CCP's never-ending love affair with the whole damn thing leads them to screw anyone or anything who has an alternative agenda. They incessantly push everyone towards nullsec, while having no consideration for the individual or for the small corporation or alliance. Either you join a mega-alliance and become cannon-fodder or you really have no viable long-term path in Eve. Nullsec is the end-game of Eve.

So, I ask in earnest CCP, when are you going to make all of Eve nullsec. When is the patch turning Eve into a pvp-arena? Stop dicking around, and do it, or give the rest of us options. Consider the individual, the small corporation, and the small alliance. Not everyone is interested in doing the bidding of a maniacal bloated psychopath and his personality cult.

For me, it really doesn't matter, it's the last straw. Subscription Cancelled.

Cue the, "Can I have your stuff lines". No, you can't have it, f*ck off.

Probably because I haven't played in years?

But the last time I checked, bombing isn't allowed in Jita...

Probably because I haven't played in years?

But the last time I checked, bombing isn't allowed in Jita...

"Sandbox" doesn't mean there are no rules or limitations. Sandboxes have walls and they're governed by laws of physics.

Stealth "The fourteen guys I got together couldn't take sov" thread.

It sounds to me like you want less "sandbox" and more "god mode". No 50-200 man group should be able to thoroughly topple a 5000+ man alliance and take their space, unless the larger group allows them to do so (or some crafty metagame **** is pulled off). I don't care what your ego says should be possible, that just wouldn't make sense if it could be done.

After his platoon suffered heavy casualties and 3 other noncommissioned officers had become casualties, Cpl. York assumed command. Fearlessly leading 7 men, he charged with great daring a machine gun nest which was pouring deadly and incessant fire upon his platoon. In this heroic feat the machine gun nest was taken, together with 4 officers and 128 men and several guns.

Reality is stranger than fiction.

Meet...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_York



Oh, it should be able to happen in actual combat, with mechanics to allow it.

After playing Eve for almost seven years, I have come to an ultimate conclusion. I'm the type of person that wants to find my own path, and not follow under anyone else's rules (nullsec blocks). After several attempts to achieve the goal of building an Alliance and claiming sovereignty on its own terms I've realized this is impossible.
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Oh, it should be able to happen in actual combat, with mechanics to allow it.

First, and foremost, Eve is dominated by Nullsec. Their culture, tactics, and influence is impossible to counter or side-step. Anyone who attempts to do so is curb-stomped and eliminated. Either you play by their rules, or you can take your toys and go home --the epitome of playground politics.

After playing Eve for almost seven years, I have come to an ultimate conclusion. I'm the type of person that wants to find my own path, and not follow under anyone else's rules (nullsec blocks). After several attempts to achieve the goal of building an Alliance and claiming sovereignty on its own terms I've realized this is impossible.

Why? Two main reasons.

First, and foremost, Eve is dominated by Nullsec. Their culture, tactics, and influence is impossible to counter or side-step. Anyone who attempts to do so is curb-stomped and eliminated. Either you play by their rules, or you can take your toys and go home --the epitome of playground politics.

Secondly, CCP is in love with nullsec. All the members of the CSM are nullsec clowns bowing to the whims of their maniacal masters. CCP's never-ending love affair with the whole damn thing leads them to screw anyone or anything who has an alternative agenda. They incessantly push everyone towards nullsec, while having no consideration for the individual or for the small corporation or alliance. Either you join a mega-alliance and become cannon-fodder or you really have no viable long-term path in Eve. Nullsec is the end-game of Eve.

So, I ask in earnest CCP, when are you going to make all of Eve nullsec. When is the patch turning Eve into a pvp-arena? Stop dicking around, and do it, or give the rest of us options. Consider the individual, the small corporation, and the small alliance. Not everyone is interested in doing the bidding of a maniacal bloated psychopath and his personality cult.

For me, it really doesn't matter, it's the last straw. Subscription Cancelled.

Cue the, "Can I have your stuff lines". No, you can't have it, f*ck off.

StealthBlatantly Obvious "The fourteen guys I got together couldn't take sov" thread.

May 2003

"Sandbox" doesn't mean there are no rules or limitations. Sandboxes have walls and they're governed by laws of physics. Someone's activities in the sandbox can be augmented or hampered by someone else's. We can build a really big sandcastle together. I can **** on your sandcastle. We can't make our sandcastles levitate, though, nor can you build a nuclear bomb out of sand.