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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1761
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:11:00 -
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Arcelian wrote:My god how does one person cause so much unrest? Do you really think this one person is going to have that much pull on CCP?
I admit I was a little miffed by it at first, but then my sanity kicked in. It's really not that big of a deal. We have giant idiots on the CSM, and they have far more influence on the game, but no one is up in arms about that.
Grow up.
See post #52.
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Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:12:00 -
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cut my sub into pieces this is my last toon biomassing no mining dont give a **** if i cant go ratting |

0Lona 0ltor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:16:00 -
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Arcelian wrote:My god how does one person cause so much unrest? Do you really think this one person is going to have that much pull on CCP?
I admit I was a little miffed by it at first, but then my sanity kicked in. It's really not that big of a deal. We have giant idiots on the CSM, and they have far more influence on the game, but no one is up in arms about that.
Grow up.
Yes, if I was her I'd phone in sick claim bulling, depression, off the record I'd just tell the boss that I'm just here for the cash, keep the cash flowing & the pension building & I won't cause any grief or sue.
Just put it to them straight. I'm a $50k per year liability just write me off as that, don't speak to me, write me or call me unless it's about my pay or pension. If you don't do this then I will get a lawyer involved which could cost you millions & even sink CCP. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1762
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:19:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:Arcelian wrote:My god how does one person cause so much unrest? Do you really think this one person is going to have that much pull on CCP?
I admit I was a little miffed by it at first, but then my sanity kicked in. It's really not that big of a deal. We have giant idiots on the CSM, and they have far more influence on the game, but no one is up in arms about that.
Grow up. Yes, if I was her I'd phone in sick claim bulling, depression, off the record I'd just tell the boss that I'm just here for the cash, keep the cash flowing & the pension building & I won't cause any grief or sue. Just put it to them straight. I'm a $50k per year liability just write me off as that, don't speak to me, write me or call me unless it's about my pay or pension. If you don't do this then I will get a lawyer involved which could cost you millions & even sink CCP.
So now you're going to start rumor mongering to close a thread that was legitimate and within the rules? How sad.
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0Lona 0ltor
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:21:00 -
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Is CCP nuking threads again? What is this T2BPO deja vu? |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1762
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:22:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:Is CCP nuking threads again? What is this T2BPO deja vu?
No, it's against the rules and you know this. As such, you're trying to close the thread. Unless you have something to actually contribute constructively that does not involve unfounded conjecture, I suggest you don't post.
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Revman Zim
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
104
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:23:00 -
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Dare I even post.... Ok.. what the heck. My 2 cents on the MINTCHIP issue (not going to obscure the point).
1. CCP can hire anyone they want. Period. Obviously CCP Mintchip had some qualities that CCP believes will benefit their company. To hire anyone on any other basis would be foolish, and I always give the benefit of the doubt when it comes to foolishness until proven otherwise.
2. Everyone deserves the chance to prove themselves. Some of the crap I read on an earlier forum post was ridiculous. CCP Mintchip deserves the chance to succeed or fail just like anyone else starting a new job.
3. She is the DUST Player Rep. Not EVE. So all this vitrol is very much wasted.
4. So much hate, so early, forces CCP to defend MINTCHIP because to not do so would put every other developer at risk for anything they do for the game. That is an intolerable situation for any gaming developer.
HOWEVER,
1. A lot of this drama would have been avoided if CCP Mintchip would have been introduced as CCP CLEANSLATE in the DUST forums. No reference to her blog or youtube videos. Later, during a fanfest or some other event, her identity could have been exposed, but only after she had the opportunity to make a name for herself as a competent CCP employee. To come out from the beginning with so much baggage, puts her in a difficult postion.
2. As a DUST player rep, announcing your new job on the EVE forums, was probably a bad move.
3. We as CUSTOMERS of CCP have the right to communicate our displeasure with their decisions. As long as it is professional, this communication should not be censored or deleted. And in the end, we as CUSTOMERS have the right to stop using the company's product if we feel their decisions are egregious enough.
Personally, I didn't even know who MINTCHIP was before this all happened. And, after a little research, I don't care. It will not affect my game play or how I view the game. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
120
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:23:00 -
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Friends all tried to warn me But I held my head up high All the time they warned me But I only passed them by They all tried to tell me But I guess I didn't care I turned my back and Left them standing there
All the burning bridges that have fallen after me All the lonely feelings and the burning memories Everyone I left behind each time I closed the door Burning bridges lost forevermore
Joe Phoenix tried to help me find a job A while ago When I finally got it I didn't want to go The party Mary gave for me When I just walked away Now there's nothing left for me to say
All the burning bridges that have fallen after me All the lonely feelings and the burning memories Everyone I left behind each time I closed the door Burning bridges lost forevermore
Years have passed and I keep thinking What a fool I've been I look back into the past and Think of way back then I know that I lost everything I thought that I could win I guess I should have listened to my friends
All the burning bridges that have fallen after me All the lonely feelings and the burning memories Everyone I left behind each time I closed the door Burning bridges lost forevermore
Burning bridges lost forevermore
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Dominous Nolen
11
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:23:00 -
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Elizabeth Aideron wrote:cut my sub into pieces this is my last toon biomassing no mining dont give a **** if i cant go ratting
Grats bug in ear successfully planted and now i have the guitar riff going on in my head. LOL |

Shizuken
Venerated Stars
140
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:23:00 -
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Lusty Wench wrote:
I guess the TL;DR is that I'm not comfortable contributing to one of your employees salary.
I am almost certain this is what it sounds like when a hipster realizes that his cherished nitch hobby is about to go mainstream.
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Dominous Nolen
11
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:25:00 -
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Revman Zim wrote:
1. A lot of this drama would have been avoided if CCP Mintchip would have been introduced as CCP CLEANSLATE in the DUST forums. No reference to her blog or youtube videos. Later, during a fanfest or some other event, her identity could have been exposed, but only after she had the opportunity to make a name for herself as a competent CCP employee. To come out from the beginning with so much baggage, puts her in a difficult postion.
Probably alot of truth here however anyone that knows her or what she looks like would get it the next time she made a video thru CCP or at Fanfest |

Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
409
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:25:00 -
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Anslo wrote:The company continually totted how close it was with its community and how the players really did make the game, as we all try to give suggestions and identify bugs to help hold Eve high. We don't just come in and consume. A lot of people really try to make Eve a legitimate hobby and work to better the game and help the community (i.e. Chribba).
So when you hire a community rep that is not only unversed in the game, but dislikes it, actively, and very publically, it's expected people will be very angry. We may not have a say in who is hired, but we will speak out against it and, since CCP is 'so close' to we the community, would like an explanation as to why this person was hired given their history.
I'll admit right out the gate I'm pretty unfamiliar with said person's history, though I have heard things, but I'm pretty ok with the fact that someone dissatisfied with eve got hired. It gives them a more rounded idea pool. I don't agree that we're owed any explanation though. We get a fair bit of say game play wise, and that's great, but I think people are seriously overstepping themselves by saying they should also be included in the HR manager's job.
Quote:If someone turns out to be bad at their job and is let go, that's one thing, but no one should be fired because a handful of people are mad that someone they don't like got hired.
When there are riots across eve, people shooting statues or something similar, I'll concede the point, but until then you're not convincing me you're the 99%.
Quote:This is being used a lot in protection of this person. However, DUST is Eve, Eve is DUST. That was the point of DUST. It was meant to be a game that bridges the two into a single universe. They may be a DUST rep, but the person is still at CCP, making suggestions and planning actions that have a good chance of simply not resonating with the community if implemented by OUR reps. Also, DUST has a lot of Eve players, denying this is lol. Their attitudes don't change because they play a different game on top of Eve.
That's fair, I suppose I don't give dust a lot of credit. Are they at the point where they're actively making in impact in eve yet? I'm genuinely asking because I haven't noticed if they have, and I don't really keep tabs on it. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
120
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:33:00 -
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Im actually, genuinely and without reservation starting to like the Goons again.
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Zircon Dasher
208
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:39:00 -
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Sooooo many catty (ingame) women and their little man-puppets in this thread....
Eve's player generated content is almost as satisfying as the comment section of the Guardian. Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1764
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:40:00 -
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Xinivrae wrote:I'll admit right out the gate I'm pretty unfamiliar with said person's history, though I have heard things, but I'm pretty ok with the fact that someone dissatisfied with eve got hired. It gives them a more rounded idea pool. I don't agree that we're owed any explanation though. We get a fair bit of say game play wise, and that's great, but I think people are seriously overstepping themselves by saying they should also be included in the HR manager's job. Their ideas have always been against the grain of what Eve is. Eve is gritty, dark, foreboding, tough, and uncaring. This person continuously spoke out against those characteristics and said they should change to make the game 'better.' This, obviously, did not set well with people.
And yes, we are owed an explanation by the company who 'prides itself' in staying close to its community. They rode that credit again and again and again. So yes, we are owed an explanation because CCP maneuvered themselves that way. And who are you to say we cannot criticize their decision? What authority to you have to decree our right to speak out forfeit because 'mother knows best,' so to speak?
Quote:When there are riots across eve, people shooting statues or something similar, I'll concede the point, but until then you're not convincing me you're the 99%. You're making a comparison to an irrelevant organization. Incarna impacted the game immediately and thus, garnered an immediate reaction. This situation will be more latent. I anticipate no burn jita again, unless the employee's HKO opinions actually come to bear....like Sajuuk...(yes I went there).
Quote:That's fair, I suppose I don't give dust a lot of credit. Are they at the point where they're actively making in impact in eve yet? I'm genuinely asking because I haven't noticed if they have, and I don't really keep tabs on it.
Not yet. They need to set the code and such up to have them spread across all of Eve. Right now they're limited to FW, but the orbital strikes and such are having an impact. I think there was an event that actually pushed the Arch Angels out of their territory because DUST players roflstomped them, hard.
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Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
58
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:47:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:It's mildly scary that CCP Mintchip is actually one of the most critical devs in respect to CCP, they literally can't even touch her or face a massive law suit for unfair dismissal, alongside a huge amount of negative press CCP's EVE will get for being an institutionalised racist & sexist place.
Mintchip you go girl, take it easy get them feet in the air & let these good times roll. You've got them by their fing balls.
The words you are looking for are : trial period
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Prince Kobol
775
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:48:00 -
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Anslo wrote: Massive wall of text
So her view of Eve is not your view so what.
No you are not owned anything. CCP hire and fire who they want, when they want and do not have to tell you squat.
Who gave you the authority to dictate to CCP who they can and can not hire. You don't like it then the solution is very easy.. quit.
Also please do not use the "I am a paying customer" line.
You have no right to tell CCP who they can hire like you have no right to tell any other company that you use who they can hire.
At the end of the day, the percentage of players against this hiring is minuscule. A handful of players on a forum that only a tiny percentage of subscribers use. |

floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:48:00 -
[78] - Quote
0Lona 0ltor wrote:It's mildly scary that CCP Mintchip is actually one of the most critical devs in respect to CCP, they literally can't even touch her or face a massive law suit for unfair dismissal, alongside a huge amount of negative press CCP's EVE will get for being an institutionalised racist & sexist place.
Mintchip you go girl, take it easy get them feet in the air & let these good times roll. You've got them by their fing balls.
Wow, just wow
http://i.imgur.com/HHxRWYG.jpg |

Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:52:00 -
[79] - Quote
Xinivrae wrote:Anslo wrote:The company continually totted how close it was with its community and how the players really did make the game, as we all try to give suggestions and identify bugs to help hold Eve high. We don't just come in and consume. A lot of people really try to make Eve a legitimate hobby and work to better the game and help the community (i.e. Chribba).
So when you hire a community rep that is not only unversed in the game, but dislikes it, actively, and very publically, it's expected people will be very angry. We may not have a say in who is hired, but we will speak out against it and, since CCP is 'so close' to we the community, would like an explanation as to why this person was hired given their history. I'll admit right out the gate I'm pretty unfamiliar with said person's history, though I have heard things, but I'm pretty ok with the fact that someone dissatisfied with eve got hired. It gives them a more rounded idea pool. I don't agree that we're owed any explanation though. We get a fair bit of say game play wise, and that's great, but I think people are seriously overstepping themselves by saying they should also be included in the HR manager's job. Quote:It isn't a handful of people. The entire game does not monitor the forums. You must be new here. When there are riots across eve, people shooting statues or something similar, I'll concede the point, but until then you're not convincing me you're the 99%. Quote:This is being used a lot in protection of this person. However, DUST is Eve, Eve is DUST. That was the point of DUST. It was meant to be a game that bridges the two into a single universe. They may be a DUST rep, but the person is still at CCP, making suggestions and planning actions that have a good chance of simply not resonating with the community if implemented by OUR reps. Also, DUST has a lot of Eve players, denying this is lol. Their attitudes don't change because they play a different game on top of Eve. That's fair, I suppose I don't give dust a lot of credit. Are they at the point where they're actively making in impact in eve yet? I'm genuinely asking because I haven't noticed if they have, and I don't really keep tabs on it.
/agree |

floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:54:00 -
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Revman Zim wrote:
1. A lot of this drama would have been avoided if CCP Mintchip would have been introduced as CCP CLEANSLATE in the DUST forums. No reference to her blog or youtube videos. Later, during a fanfest or some other event, her identity could have been exposed, but only after she had the opportunity to make a name for herself as a competent CCP employee. To come out from the beginning with so much baggage, puts her in a difficult postion.
They didn't hire her as a random person / dev they hired her because she's Mintchip. Probably to try to attract players for DUST because of internet celebrity. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1764
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:56:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote: (1) So her view of Eve is not your view so what. (2) No you are not owned anything. (3) CCP hire and fire who they want, when they want and do not have to tell you squat. (4) Who gave you the authority to dictate to CCP who they can and can not hire. You don't like it then the solution is very easy.. quit. (5) Also please do not use the "I am a paying customer" line. (6) You have no right to tell CCP who they can hire like you have no right to tell any other company that you use who they can hire. (7) At the end of the day, the percentage of players against this hiring is minuscule. A handful of players on a forum that only a tiny percentage of subscribers use.
1) She works for the company that manages Eve now. 2) Yes, we are. We're obviously so 'close' to the developers, like they preach so often. So, why not explain? 3) They do make the hiring decisions, and we make the well founded and reasoned criticisms. 4) We do not have that authority but we do have the ability to want answers, as CCP put the community on a pedestal for holding up Eve and making it what it is. No, I will not quit. 5) We are paying customers who put hours into Eve and attempt to make it better, not just consume. 6) See Answer 3. You are being repetative. 7) Look up the term latent, as I said in the previous post, and get back to me.
What did we learn here today? That reading comprehension and basic critical thinking skills are key in answering your own questions. Text walls are there for a reason, Mr. Alt.
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Prince Kobol
780
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:56:00 -
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floating in space wrote:Revman Zim wrote:
1. A lot of this drama would have been avoided if CCP Mintchip would have been introduced as CCP CLEANSLATE in the DUST forums. No reference to her blog or youtube videos. Later, during a fanfest or some other event, her identity could have been exposed, but only after she had the opportunity to make a name for herself as a competent CCP employee. To come out from the beginning with so much baggage, puts her in a difficult postion.
They didn't hire her as a random person / dev they hired her because she's Mintchip. Probably to try to attract players for DUST because of internet celebrity.
Yes because you were there...
The level of tinfoil has risen remarkably over the last 24 hours.
I also hear that she was the one who shot Kennedy, split up the Beatles and killed Kurt Cobain |

floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2013.06.06 16:59:00 -
[83] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:floating in space wrote:Revman Zim wrote:
1. A lot of this drama would have been avoided if CCP Mintchip would have been introduced as CCP CLEANSLATE in the DUST forums. No reference to her blog or youtube videos. Later, during a fanfest or some other event, her identity could have been exposed, but only after she had the opportunity to make a name for herself as a competent CCP employee. To come out from the beginning with so much baggage, puts her in a difficult postion.
They didn't hire her as a random person / dev they hired her because she's Mintchip. Probably to try to attract players for DUST because of internet celebrity. Yes because you were there... The level of tinfoil has risen remarkably over the last 24 hours. I also hear that she was the one who shot Kennedy, split up the Beatles and killed Kurt Cobain
What's I'm saying is pretty obvious. It's not on the level of Kennedy assassination at least.
Do you think that as a person she was the most qualified for the job? Out of everyone they could have hired? Really? I mean honestly? Really?
It's not even saying anything bad that they hired her for name recognition, it's just obvious. |

Stoogie
Cadre Assault Force Get in the Van.
75
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:01:00 -
[84] - Quote
Agree With op. Tbh I won't claim I'm gonna quit but this could be the start of a bad road for ccp. Its annoying because after Seagulls speech at fanfest I was really back into this game. The main thing that happened isn't the big deal here its others from ccp calling people misogynistic and insulting us due to our opinions who has done damage to this game and we see as being in a place to do damage in future. We are entitled to these opinions and a lot of people didn't cross that line but we're still grouped with the few. |

Revman Zim
Grim Determination Nulli Secunda
108
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:02:00 -
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floating in space wrote:Revman Zim wrote:
1. A lot of this drama would have been avoided if CCP Mintchip would have been introduced as CCP CLEANSLATE in the DUST forums. No reference to her blog or youtube videos. Later, during a fanfest or some other event, her identity could have been exposed, but only after she had the opportunity to make a name for herself as a competent CCP employee. To come out from the beginning with so much baggage, puts her in a difficult postion.
They didn't hire her as a random person / dev they hired her because she's Mintchip. Probably to try to attract players for DUST because of internet celebrity.
Agree. I point this out only because her hiring has awakened a beast on the forums. If CCP truely wanted to avoid this then what I suggested was valid. If they did not, then they should not be surprised about the reaction.
If they didn't have an inkling that there would be a problem, they are out of touch. |

Prince Kobol
780
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:03:00 -
[86] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Prince Kobol wrote: (1) So her view of Eve is not your view so what. (2) No you are not owned anything. (3) CCP hire and fire who they want, when they want and do not have to tell you squat. (4) Who gave you the authority to dictate to CCP who they can and can not hire. You don't like it then the solution is very easy.. quit. (5) Also please do not use the "I am a paying customer" line. (6) You have no right to tell CCP who they can hire like you have no right to tell any other company that you use who they can hire. (7) At the end of the day, the percentage of players against this hiring is minuscule. A handful of players on a forum that only a tiny percentage of subscribers use.
1) She works for the company that manages Eve now. 2) Yes, we are. We're obviously so 'close' to the developers, like they preach so often. So, why not explain? 3) They do make the hiring decisions, and we make the well founded and reasoned criticisms. 4) We do not have that authority but we do have the ability to want answers, as CCP put the community on a pedestal for holding up Eve and making it what it is. No, I will not quit. 5) We are paying customers who put hours into Eve and attempt to make it better, not just consume. 6) See Answer 3. You are being repetative. 7) Look up the term latent, as I said in the previous post, and get back to me. What did we learn here today? That reading comprehension and basic critical thinking skills are key in answering your own questions. Text walls are there for a reason, Mr. Alt.
Jesus..
1. Your point being what?
2. The developers preach now.. please show me were they preach.
3. No, you are not making founded and reasons criticisms at all. I have yet to see any rounded and reasonable criticisms, only a load of vile hateful rubbish.
4. You want the ability to want answers.. lol, I have never heard so much rubbish in my life. Just because CCP likes to engage its customers like any half decent company would, it does not mean that you can then want to know why they hired and fired people.
5. Like I said, just because you are paying customers it don't mean a thing when it comes to anything outside of the game Eve, and that includes hiring people.
6. I can play that game as well.. see answer 3 :)
7. It depends on the context.. are we talking about pathology, biology or psychology.
I learned that you are talking rubbish, have a personal agenda against somebody who you have never met and also.. This is my main.. |

Prince Kobol
780
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:05:00 -
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floating in space wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:floating in space wrote:Revman Zim wrote:
1. A lot of this drama would have been avoided if CCP Mintchip would have been introduced as CCP CLEANSLATE in the DUST forums. No reference to her blog or youtube videos. Later, during a fanfest or some other event, her identity could have been exposed, but only after she had the opportunity to make a name for herself as a competent CCP employee. To come out from the beginning with so much baggage, puts her in a difficult postion.
They didn't hire her as a random person / dev they hired her because she's Mintchip. Probably to try to attract players for DUST because of internet celebrity. Yes because you were there... The level of tinfoil has risen remarkably over the last 24 hours. I also hear that she was the one who shot Kennedy, split up the Beatles and killed Kurt Cobain What's I'm saying is pretty obvious. It's not on the level of Kennedy assassination at least. Do you think that as a person she was the most qualified for the job? Out of everyone they could have hired? Really? I mean honestly? Really? I have no idea if she was the most qualified for the job because I have no idea what her qualifications are and what the post required and was not involved in her interview. That is the point.. nobody here has the slightest idea. It's not even saying anything bad that they hired her for name recognition, it's just obvious.
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floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
87
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:06:00 -
[88] - Quote
You seem to share CCP's attitude towards customers Prince |

Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
326
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:07:00 -
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floating in space wrote:You seem to share CCP's attitude towards customers Prince
CCP ALT DETECTED Not today spaghetti. |

Prince Kobol
782
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:09:00 -
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floating in space wrote:You seem to share CCP's attitude towards customers Prince
Which is what, refusing to listen to a few mindless people who are making personal attacks against a person they have never met demanding answers to a question that they have no right to.
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