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Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
18
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:49:00 -
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Odyssey would have been released as a successful expansion, If you had just left out the one glaring screwup.
You could have held your heads high after dealing with the DDoS downtime so well.
As the miners realised that Ice & WH mining wasn't completely stuffed and they just needed to adapt a little. It would've been generally regarded as a good release. Not great like Apoc or anything, but hardly another Incarna.
CCP Fozzie and Rise working their arses off for many months, making good changes after feedback from us about what was good and what was crap. Those 2 have done an outstanding job creating not only goodwill in the forums, but making EVE a place I want to be.
Falling in love with CCP Seagull as she powered through the clearly visible nerves and presented at fanfest like an absolute champion. Not because shes female but because shes got guts. These thing foster goodwill with me, I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I'm sure I'm not alone on this, and they make me regard EVE as my own, these things make me want to keep sending you money.
CCP Peligro, whom I had considered a bit of a turd before fanfest gained multitudes of personal respect from his presentation at fanfest. CCP Soundwave, on the couch, relaxed, you all did so well.
Yet you blew it all with just one post. Actually several posts from CCP staff, but we know who the main offender is.
It just baffles me.
Someone somewhere was thinking, 'well this is all going a bit too smoothly, the playerbase seems a little too quiet, what can I do to mess this up? boot.ini? Eh been done before. $900 jeans? So passee. How about a company wide email? Um, not quite that fearless. Wait a minute, I think I've got something!'
If you imagine Apoc - Incarna on a scale from 10 - 0, I'd probably rate Odyssey about a 6 or 7. It's better than mediocre I think. I'm probably weighting too heavily the minimal downtime, the fact that POSs didn't kill their owners and silly things like that.
However with one failed decision you've knocked 4 points off and now it sits around a 2. All the good and hard work others have done has been undone with just one decision.
I won't be continuing, I'm not getting over it, if anything I'm getting more worked up about it. I'll check in on the forums and news sites periodically to see if the problem still persists, my guess is that I will activate those PLEXs the same day the problem goes away. I have 20 days left on this set of PLEX. I'll use that time to shiptoast and pull my pixels into one location in a station far far away.
I guess the TL;DR is that I'm not comfortable contributing to one of your employees salary.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
5142
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:53:00 -
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Wat? |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
114
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:53:00 -
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Good.
Bye. "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
720
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:54:00 -
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get over it you pathetic clown
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2214
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:55:00 -
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Well done.
Needs a link to your Amazon wish-list.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Lasernuts
Concordiat Spaceship Samurai
0
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:57:00 -
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Lusty Wench wrote:
However with one failed decision you've knocked 4 points off and now it sits around a 2. All the good and hard work others have done has been undone with just one decision.
I wana know this decision, im going to assume its not the mintchip fiasco(not that i agree with it at all) |

Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
243
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:58:00 -
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I wonder how many wars were started over the hatred of just one person... |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
61
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:59:00 -
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I have to say, in a world of "**** you MC" threads, this one actually has a bit of style and discretion to it. +1 |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1120
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Posted - 2013.06.06 13:59:00 -
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and nothing of value was lost |

Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
109
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:00:00 -
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Give me a ******* break.
warp drive active |

Anna Karhunen
Inoue INEXP
55
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:05:00 -
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OP. I recommend you go outside, smell the fresh air, meet people in person and... live. Get some perspective. You'll then (hopefully) realize just how ridiculously you are acting. |

floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:06:00 -
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Some people just really hate MintChip and we have to accept that, we're living in a tolerant society. We have to value all individuals and if hate is a part of them then it should be cherished and nurtured. |

Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
317
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:07:00 -
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Posting in another CCP DumbB!tch thread...
Know what the best thing is to do with annoying teenage attention whores?
Ignore them. Not today spaghetti. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
114
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:11:00 -
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floating in space wrote:we're living in a tolerant society.
When did that happen? I mustve missed it
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
63
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:11:00 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:Posting in another CCP DumbB!tch thread...
Know what the best thing is to do with annoying teenage attention whores?
Ignore them. That which has been seen, cannot be unseen. |

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
510
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:17:00 -
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Hmm, to be honest... the OP left me confused. Is he bitching about the Apoc? Something else? Mintchip? Hmm... maybe I am too much of a simpleton to comprehend this rant. Oh yeah, in before the lock of course. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |

Lord 'Vulcan' Raven
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:18:00 -
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A lot of regular posters seem to have vanished off the forums recently, I wonder why. 
I was very annoyed by the way some CCP employees had had handled the situation. Incredibly unprofessional and down right pathetic in their attempts to shut down peoples opinions and sweep it all under the rug.
At the end of the day they hired a community rep who is largely not liked by the community. The thousands of likes highlighting people's concerns in the deleted thread to a positive 100 seemed to say it all.
What's more hilarious is that when questioned about previous forum warnings people are getting told "your petition is closed". I mean just look at the other guy who was banned and then immediately suspended due to "suspected participation in RMT".
Anyway I'm not going to quit the game because
1 - It's awesome. 2 - I still love the majority of CCP staff 3 - I like the EVE community
Besides I'd rather get banned than quit. |

floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:27:00 -
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I wish the forums were more open. They call things like this an "attack" but these are just words, and players have no power.
They just have the freedom to leave, and CCP isn't scared of that considering they ban them anyway, or develop other games or ignore them.
It seems oppressive. CCP has all the power in one of the few places players can express themselves and they delete and moderate their words.
"CCP is under attack"
right
a lot of people in positions of power seem to love this excuse |

Solaris Ecladia
High Flyers Ex Cinere Scriptor
69
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:29:00 -
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Lord 'Vulcan' Raven wrote:A lot of regular posters seem to have vanished off the forums recently, I wonder why. 
everybody got ******* banned because of CCPs newest.... "diversity hire". Why we dont have someone that actually would do some good for the game is beyond me... But who knows maybe next time instead of CCP Mittani, we'll see CCP dumbfuckinghighsecminer. |

Lord 'Vulcan' Raven
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:36:00 -
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floating in space wrote:I wish the forums were more open. They call things like this an "attack" but these are just words, and players have no power.
They just have the freedom to leave, and CCP isn't scared of that considering they ban them anyway, or develop other games or ignore them.
It seems oppressive. CCP has all the power in one of the few places players can express themselves and they delete and moderate their words.
"CCP is under attack"
right
a lot of people in positions of power seem to love this excuse
At the end of the day though, this board belongs to CCP and they can be as oppressive as they want to be because they don't have to answer to anyone but themselves.
I agree it sucks, but that's life.
What goes around comes around though and they should do well in remembering that. |

Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
24
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:39:00 -
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I would ask that people please keep it reasonably civil.
I know there's a lot of rage, I'm with you, but another deleted thread is of no good to anyone.
page 2 snipah |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
114
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:40:00 -
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I though it was in the EULA that commenting on CCP staff was bannable?
Or did I dream it? "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:41:00 -
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Yeah I know they can and I get what you're saying but I don't even see why they would want to be oppressive.
In 2007/08..09? These forums were like the wild west, you could even post images. I think that coincided with the last time this game was actually growing.
I know that when I go to check out a new game and I see about 4 whiteknights / shills posing on the forums I assume the game is dead. |

Darvaleth Sigma
Progressive State State Section 9
273
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:45:00 -
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This actually pisses that guy off this much?
... RL, you heard of it? Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.
Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life! |

Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
24
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:45:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:I though it was in the EULA that commenting on CCP staff was bannable?
Or did I dream it?
I was careful in my wording. I'm certainly not being disrespectful to anyone, in fact I praise half a dozen or so CCP staff. I tell about how I've grown to respect some that previously I didn't like very much.
30. Abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers is prohibited.
CCP operate a zero tolerance policy on abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers. This includes but is not limited to personal attacks, trolling, GÇ£outingGÇ¥ of CCP employee or ISD volunteer player identities, and the use of any former player identities when referring to the aforementioned parties.
Our forums are designed to be a place where players and developers can exchange ideas in a polite and friendly manner for the betterment of EVE Online. Players who attack or abuse employees of CCP, or ISD volunteers, will be permanently banned from the EVE Online forums across all their accounts with no recourse, and may also be subject to action against their game accounts. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
114
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:51:00 -
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Lusty Wench wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:I though it was in the EULA that commenting on CCP staff was bannable?
Or did I dream it? I was careful in my wording. I'm certainly not being disrespectful to anyone, in fact I praise half a dozen or so CCP staff. I tell about how I've grown to respect some that previously I didn't like very much. The post only contains praise of CCP staff, and my reservations about a decision that was made and the good work that I feel was undone by said e 30. Abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers is prohibited. CCP operate a zero tolerance policy on abuse of CCP employees and ISD volunteers. This includes but is not limited to personal attacks, trolling, GÇ£outingGÇ¥ of CCP employee or ISD volunteer player identities, and the use of any former player identities when referring to the aforementioned parties. Our forums are designed to be a place where players and developers can exchange ideas in a polite and friendly manner for the betterment of EVE Online. Players who attack or abuse employees of CCP, or ISD volunteers, will be permanently banned from the EVE Online forums across all their accounts with no recourse, and may also be subject to action against their game accounts.
Oh no, I wasnt suggesting you were being a bad egg, and as for your praise for their work I did see that too.
I am not suggesting you arent entitled to an opinion either, just adding my two cents to the idea that CCP were being too heavy handed in their approach, and I was just saying that they already have rules for this situation, and I agree that they dont have to justify them anymore than any other company does. "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
317
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:51:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Sexy Cakes wrote:Posting in another CCP DumbB!tch thread...
Know what the best thing is to do with annoying teenage attention whores?
Ignore them. That which has been seen, cannot be unseen.
Man them things is so tiny they could hardly be seen much less unseen. Not today spaghetti. |

Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:56:00 -
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Lusty Wench wrote:Odyssey would have been released as a successful expansion, If you had just left out the one glaring screwup.
You could have held your heads high after dealing with the DDoS downtime so well.
As the miners realised that Ice & WH mining wasn't completely stuffed and they just needed to adapt a little. It would've been generally regarded as a good release. Not great like Apoc or anything, but hardly another Incarna.
CCP Fozzie and Rise working their arses off for many months, making good changes after feedback from us about what was good and what was crap. Those 2 have done an outstanding job creating not only goodwill in the forums, but making EVE a place I want to be.
Falling in love with CCP Seagull as she powered through the clearly visible nerves and presented at fanfest like an absolute champion. Not because shes female but because shes got guts. These thing foster goodwill with me, I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I'm sure I'm not alone on this, and they make me regard EVE as my own, these things make me want to keep sending you money.
CCP Peligro, whom I had considered a bit of a turd before fanfest gained multitudes of personal respect from his presentation at fanfest. CCP Soundwave, on the couch, relaxed, you all did so well.
Yet you blew it all with just one post. Actually several posts from CCP staff, but we know who the main offender is.
It just baffles me.
Someone somewhere was thinking, 'well this is all going a bit too smoothly, the playerbase seems a little too quiet, what can I do to mess this up? boot.ini? Eh been done before. $900 jeans? So passee. How about a company wide email? Um, not quite that fearless. Wait a minute, I think I've got something!'
If you imagine Apoc - Incarna on a scale from 10 - 0, I'd probably rate Odyssey about a 6 or 7. It's better than mediocre I think. I'm probably weighting too heavily the minimal downtime, the fact that POSs didn't kill their owners and silly things like that.
However with one failed decision you've knocked 4 points off and now it sits around a 2. All the good and hard work others have done has been undone with just one decision.
I won't be continuing, I'm not getting over it, if anything I'm getting more worked up about it. I'll check in on the forums and news sites periodically to see if the problem still persists, my guess is that I will activate those PLEXs the same day the problem goes away. I have 20 days left on this set of PLEX. I'll use that time to shiptoast and pull my pixels into one location in a station far far away.
I guess the TL;DR is that I'm not comfortable contributing to one of your employees salary.
nobody cares |

Mulani Keikira
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:57:00 -
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I've already canceled my 14 accounts. but they're prepaid for a few months still anyhow. So that's always cool.
What's sad is this flop of an expansion, if you can truly call it that isn't what prompted me to cancel. It was the absolute terrible job of the few staff members that served only to inflame those with reasonable complaints this passed weekend. Being stuck unable to play the game dor 2 days didn't bother me at all. I knew these guys were working hard to make sure it came up working regardless of whatever else.
Then the other day happens and I lose all respect for CCP as an organization and the direction they are taking with their staffing decisions. I have no power but my wallet so I'm speaking with it. And no, no one can have my stuff, half of it's already biomassed. |

Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.06.06 14:59:00 -
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95% male playerbase |
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