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None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:57:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Kumq uat wrote:More like because you are an alarmist idiot. And thus begins the ad hominem. Bets on when absurdo starts?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3157261#post3157261 Don't make me hand you a wizard hat. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:00:00 -
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I don't think you understand what absurdo is...
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None ofthe Above
644
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:05:00 -
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Anslo wrote:I don't think you understand what absurdo is...
Probably not, but I do understand "reductio ad absurdum". That was what you were meaning to refer to, yes? Don't make me hand you a wizard hat. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
1774
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:06:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Anslo wrote:I don't think you understand what absurdo is... Probably not, but I do understand "reductio ad absurdum". That was what you were meaning to refer to, yes?
Doh, yes I was. Thank you for clarifying. 
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:19:00 -
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Hey OP,
Did you know that those banks that got bailed out in 2007 are still getting money (Quantitative Easing) permanently, to the tune of billions a month?
And those banks were bailed out because of poisoned assets brought on by the housing bubble that the same banks started with their debt monetization scheme.
Yet there is an article on ZeroHedge regarding the skyrocketing cost of housing that SHOULD be dropping because the banks are taking that permanent QE money and buying up foreclosed houses.
Houses that were owned by people who are being robbed by the Federal Reserve as it prints money to give to the banks.
Now, if you want to be angry about something, you should start with that. Ok?
So after you quit Eve, and good riddance I say, please join the various Occupy or End The Fed activist groups and lend your support to fighting this mess.
I may be leaving too if the majority of the player base is like you. I just won't want to be associated you see. That's how pathetic this is. |

Kumq uat
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
174
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:19:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Indeed. Kumq uat wrote:Maybe I am just too intelligent to understand the common rabble but I just do not understand why so many people are so butthurt that they would threaten to leave the game because a kinda annoying 5/10 was hired as a community rep for Dust 514. I just don't see how this impacts your Eve experience at all, much less to drive you to weep and gnash your teeth on the forums about how you are pulling all eleventy billion of your accounts if they don't fire someone. Please see this post where it highlights why there is outrage. You should have read the thread in its entirety. Also, I did not say I was quitting, I was pointing out logical fallacies and showing that the outrage is not due to misogynistic reasons, but actual credible concerns. Quote:You know, someone who would then be unemployed because the assumption is they left some other job to go work for CCP. Nice that you don't care if that person ends up homeless or not or has what is perhaps a dream job for them. Choices have consequences. If you wanted a job at the New York Times as a journalist, but bashed them as being nonfactual and tabloid journalists for years on end, you will most likely not get hired. They don't care if you're about to go on the street. No one does. That's the world we live in. No one is obligated to coddle or assist anyone, least of all businesses. Quote:I mean, I am not a fan of hers at all but this rage just baffles me. Ignore her twitter feed if it really gets you that angry and keep blowing up internet spaceships content and secure that Rise and Fozzy will be guiding the future for us. If she had got hired somewhere else, I wouldn't care. I don't follow her Twitter or...anything for that matter. Not my cup of tea. It is the fact that a rep, a face of Eve, is now someone who demonstratively dislikes Eve, its players, and the :grimdark: that makes Eve what it is.
Yeah, because none of us have rage quit and called CCP bad names. Hell, I was one of the harshest voices during the Fearless debacle. I was right there at the Jita monument (and disco bombing the Perimeter gate warp in, but that is me). We all have our moments where we hate this game and the company but overall we keep coming back because we love it.
Ok, so she is not as "grimdark" as us. So what? She has less active say in how Eve runs than Dolan, the man of many mustaches. She is a COMMUNITY REP for a game that while tied to the Eve Universe is its own seperate game. She is not balancing ships, making game design decisions, or making any decisions at all in the Eve universe. She is a cute face that maybe will do some videos for Dust and attract the attention of undersexed boys in a manner similar to Nikasaur in League of Legends. She will not have an actual impact on our game.
I use colorful metaphors because I am an author and I like to make my writing look pretty and witty and gay. |

S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:20:00 -
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"reductio ad absurdum" isn't a fallacy in and of itself.
Am I correct in thinking this is just a standard boxxy debate with a hiring twist btw? |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:32:00 -
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Kumq uat wrote:She is a cute face that maybe will do some videos for Dust and attract the attention of undersexed boys in a manner similar to Nikasaur in League of Legends. Lolwut? |

Kumq uat
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
174
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:37:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Kumq uat wrote:She is a cute face that maybe will do some videos for Dust and attract the attention of undersexed boys in a manner similar to Nikasaur in League of Legends. Lolwut?
You really think CCP won't do it? I would lay money on it. |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
91
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:41:00 -
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Kumq uat wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Kumq uat wrote:She is a cute face that maybe will do some videos for Dust and attract the attention of undersexed boys in a manner similar to Nikasaur in League of Legends. Lolwut? You really think CCP won't do it? I would lay money on it. It wasn't about that. I'll just say that your adjective shows questionable taste. Are you also a fan of Slavic schoolmarms? |
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S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
3
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:42:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:[quote=Kumq uat][quote=Gallowmere Rorschach][quote=Kumq uat] Are you also a fan of Slavic schoolmarms?
Who isn't? |

Kumq uat
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
174
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:43:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Kumq uat wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Kumq uat wrote:She is a cute face that maybe will do some videos for Dust and attract the attention of undersexed boys in a manner similar to Nikasaur in League of Legends. Lolwut? You really think CCP won't do it? I would lay money on it. It wasn't about that. I'll just say that your adjective shows questionable taste. Are you also a fan of Slavic schoolmarms?
Like I said, she is a 5/10. Cute, kinda average. Not hot or gorgeous or whatever.
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
91
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:46:00 -
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Kumq uat wrote:Like I said, she is a 5/10. Cute, kinda average. Not hot or gorgeous or whatever.
Fair enough. Can't have them too hot, or they don't seem approachable or "real" enough to get the basement dwellers reeled in. |

Lady Zarrina
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:46:00 -
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is this really about mintchip? And you you think she came as part of the Odyssey expansion?
I really know nothing about her, except she made some Eve videos. If and when she fucks up, then let the **** fly, but give her a chance. Allocate resources to POS improvement |

Gealbhan
262
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:02:00 -
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Dunno her enough to form an opinion. Lets just cool our jets and see what develops, eh? If people always went on a rant and quit anytime something displeases them, Edison would have never invented the light bulb etc etc.  |

Felicity Love
STARKRAFT Joint Venture Conglomerate
661
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:03:00 -
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... what a bloody nerd begotten sausage fest.. 
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:07:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:... what a bloody nerd begotten sausage fest..  What's wrong with sausage? I prefer turkey sausage myself, but my wife says I am weird. :( |

Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:11:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Delen Ormand wrote:You believe you don't - how true that is remains to be seen True. I sort of hope I'm wrong about the person. But I still worry about someone who doesn't like the game working for the game in any capacity. I mean look at other CCPers. They all love this game and dedicate themselves to it and make it insanely good. What happens when you throw apathy into the works though? Like I said, hope I'm wrong.
I doubt she got the job by being apathetic about the game. Part of a company's hiring process is normally aimed at finding people who are enthusiastic about whatever they'll be involved in. Whatever remarks she's made in the past are from before she was under any obligation to weigh up how the rest of the community will view her words - she wasn't an employee then.
I'm also not particularly worried about whether she fits the whole "grimdark" thing, either. She's a DUST community rep. Her role is to interact with and foster the DUST community. Let's be realistic, she's not about to somehow singlehandedly fill New Eden with unicorns and rainbows. Even if she wanted to, it's not happening. |

Abon
STAHLSTURM Test Alliance Please Ignore
113
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:15:00 -
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Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:19:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Anslo wrote: In regards to her comments; she deleted them. Twitter, TY, FB, blog, all deleted. She forgot her Twitter and someone screen capped it right before she deleted it though.
Therein lies a lot of the problem. Those who don't get it now probably never will. Everything just looks like "he said/she said" to the newcomer on this topic, because she purged just about all of the evidence being held up against her. It's basically the equivalent of trying to prove someone guilty in court after they were allowed to ransack the evidence room and burn the contents.
I'm assuming I haven't seen all this relevant stuff but that it was there, but I have more faith in the CCP's HR team to recruit someone appropriate than I have in the forum mobs to decide. I did see some of her opinions, they seemed quite tame. I'm sure I've come across worse on the forums.
I also think it's quite appropriate for anything that could be seen as harmful to her new role at CCP to be removed. Whatever comments were made, they were from before the time she was a CCP employee. She was under no obligation to represent the company in a good light, or even to be balanced. If she was pissed off with some players, she had every right to say what she thought without considering if it would be appropriate to say as an employee - beceause she wasn't one. However, now she's been hired by them, it's quite appropriate if some, or all, of those are now deleted, because the context that they will be interpreted in has now changed.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2229
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:21:00 -
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Delen Ormand wrote:Anslo wrote:Delen Ormand wrote:You believe you don't - how true that is remains to be seen True. I sort of hope I'm wrong about the person. But I still worry about someone who doesn't like the game working for the game in any capacity. I mean look at other CCPers. They all love this game and dedicate themselves to it and make it insanely good. What happens when you throw apathy into the works though? Like I said, hope I'm wrong. I doubt she got the job by being apathetic about the game. Part of a company's hiring process is normally aimed at finding people who are enthusiastic about whatever they'll be involved in.
So, that's why GoDaddy hired Danica Patrick to represent their brand. It's her enthusiasm for their products..
/the more you know.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
354
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:26:00 -
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I've seen some of her videos in the past where she advocated incarna stuff among other things. That certainly was not one of the brightest ideas.
On the other hand, I would feel really dumb getting banned on these forums for raging about CCP hiring someone who posted videos on YouTube. However embarassing they may be .
I'd probably be worried if CCP hired Robert Kotick. But this? Come on... Remove insurance. |

Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:29:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Delen Ormand wrote:Anslo wrote:Delen Ormand wrote:You believe you don't - how true that is remains to be seen True. I sort of hope I'm wrong about the person. But I still worry about someone who doesn't like the game working for the game in any capacity. I mean look at other CCPers. They all love this game and dedicate themselves to it and make it insanely good. What happens when you throw apathy into the works though? Like I said, hope I'm wrong. I doubt she got the job by being apathetic about the game. Part of a company's hiring process is normally aimed at finding people who are enthusiastic about whatever they'll be involved in. So, that's why GoDaddy hired Danica Patrick to represent their brand. It's her enthusiasm for their products.. /the more you know.
You think that those are equivalent roles?
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2229
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:33:00 -
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Delen Ormand wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Delen Ormand wrote:Anslo wrote:Delen Ormand wrote:You believe you don't - how true that is remains to be seen True. I sort of hope I'm wrong about the person. But I still worry about someone who doesn't like the game working for the game in any capacity. I mean look at other CCPers. They all love this game and dedicate themselves to it and make it insanely good. What happens when you throw apathy into the works though? Like I said, hope I'm wrong. I doubt she got the job by being apathetic about the game. Part of a company's hiring process is normally aimed at finding people who are enthusiastic about whatever they'll be involved in. So, that's why GoDaddy hired Danica Patrick to represent their brand. It's her enthusiasm for their products.. /the more you know. You think that those are equivalent roles?
Only in that both companies are exploiting "talents" other than product knowledge, or enthusiasm for the brand they are representing. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:35:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:
Only in that both companies are exploiting "talents" other than product knowledge, or enthusiasm for the brand they are representing.
Oh, you were privy to CCP's internal decision-making? I'm intrigued - do tell more.. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2229
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:42:00 -
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Delen Ormand wrote:Doc Fury wrote:
Only in that both companies are exploiting "talents" other than product knowledge, or enthusiasm for the brand they are representing.
Oh, you were privy to CCP's internal decision-making? I'm intrigued - do tell more..
I'd rather not be banned thanks. 
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Cat Casidy
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
146
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Posted - 2013.06.06 21:57:00 -
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0Lona 0ltor wrote:Arcelian wrote:My god how does one person cause so much unrest? Do you really think this one person is going to have that much pull on CCP?
I admit I was a little miffed by it at first, but then my sanity kicked in. It's really not that big of a deal. We have giant idiots on the CSM, and they have far more influence on the game, but no one is up in arms about that.
Grow up. Yes, if I was her I'd phone in sick claim bulling, depression, off the record I'd just tell the boss that I'm just here for the cash, keep the cash flowing & the pension building & I won't cause any grief or sue. Just put it to them straight. I'm a $50k per year liability just write me off as that, don't speak to me, write me or call me unless it's about my pay or pension. If you don't do this then I will get a lawyer involved which could cost you millions & even sink CCP.
And then form a nationwide group of underground fight clubs?
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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.06.06 23:12:00 -
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I'm loving all the omega white knighting males in this thread. From what I've seen there is really not one piece of evidence that can back up CCP's actions on this decision, once again from what I have seen. Just because someone has a youtube channel full of videos that imo suck (I'm mean suck bad) does not make them gud enough imo. kil2 (CCP Rise) earned his position, not because of his gender (if that even matters but apparently it does in some circles) but because he contributed something tangible and productive. Everyone kissing a@@ just because needs to seriously quit and think with your big head, not the little one. Oderint Dum Metuant |

Kumq uat
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.06 23:44:00 -
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Aralieus wrote:I'm loving all the omega white knighting males in this thread. From what I've seen there is really not one piece of evidence that can back up CCP's actions on this decision, once again from what I have seen. Just because someone has a youtube channel full of videos that imo suck (I'm mean suck bad) does not make them gud enough imo. kil2 (CCP Rise) earned his position, not because of his gender (if that even matters but apparently it does in some circles) but because he contributed something tangible and productive. Everyone kissing a@@ just because needs to seriously quit and think with your big head, not the little one.
Lulz. Put your helmet back on there champ. |

Kangaax
BlueWaffe
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Posted - 2013.06.06 23:51:00 -
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I suggest you stopped buying anything from any company that has more than 10 employees, because there is an incredibly high chance of any of them having an employee who has personnal behavior, convictions or beliefs that you do not share.
Seriously, grow up. |
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