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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.11.14 01:14:00 -
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I think local should stay the way it is.
I also do not believe that cpp will change that, and i really hope that they dont.
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Balban Ghiyas
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:38:00 -
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spRAYed
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Tenacha Khan
I think local should stay the way it is.
I also do not believe that cpp will change that, and i really hope that they dont.
I agree.
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Narciss Sevar
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:31:00 -
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I'd like to try it, but i see it as a double edged sword, not sure if i'd like it or hate it.
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Word
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Posted - 2005.11.14 12:09:00 -
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yeah! that would be great!
this will make it easier to kill the low sec empire gate sniper pirate scum.
have your entire gang enter a system undetected. position your covert ops, and then its fried rat-pie for dinner., mmm 1400IIs, tasty. :)
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ian666
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Posted - 2005.11.14 13:03:00 -
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Signed.
In real life if youÆre walking down the road, you can only see the people in your line of sight, when you turn the corner you have no idea what might be lurking, so why allow people in eve to see whatÆs not in front of them? why not just put in place a popup that appears when a low sec player enters local saying "watch out nasty people in local inst dock now".
If you have half a brain and you mine in low sec you should know every person in local and what there sec status is and who is with them and if you still get caught with your pants around your ankles then you deserve all you get.
If you feel dying in Low spec space is unfair then donÆt go in there you know the risk live with it.
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Alias11
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Posted - 2005.11.14 13:18:00 -
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ian wat the hell are u going on about
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ian666
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Posted - 2005.11.14 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: ian666 on 14/11/2005 15:21:17
Edited by: ian666 on 14/11/2005 15:20:35
Edited by: ian666 on 14/11/2005 15:20:03
local being so instant help's people to much in avoiding trouble, if I jump in then you can tell straight away and reacted before I can even uncloak never mind get to a belt, if there was a short delay then there would be a better chance of finding someone on a belt as once they have get to a station or gate the Sen guns will protect them, and if you have anything less than lots of tanking you can't do much about it.
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Alias11
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Posted - 2005.11.14 15:56:00 -
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use a covert ops alt or a noob alt to find them, then jumb in warp to your alt and you have a kill, ccp wont remove local just so some pirates can get some easy hauler or mining barges ganks
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ian666
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Posted - 2005.11.14 16:09:00 -
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Alias11 who said anything about removing local? a delay is all that is being asked 30 secs would be fine, also in order to use a Noob Alt or Covert requires that you have 2 Accounts so that you can run them at the same time scouting as you go, I don't think this is very fair to people who only have one account.
You could loggin under an alt search the belts then logout and re login as your pirate alt and go to the system/belt, if your lucky they might still be there LOL, eemmm no.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.11.14 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: ian666
Signed.
In real life if youÆre walking down the road, you can only see the people in your line of sight, when you turn the corner you have no idea what might be lurking, so why allow people in eve to see whatÆs not in front of them?
aye... but if i had to tell u their was a 50% chance u would bump into 100 guys with bats, and beaten to death if u went down that street and turned that corner would you go?..
NO.. you would stay in your house, just like ppl would stay in empire in EVE if local was removed..
d solo.
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ian666
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Posted - 2005.11.14 16:20:00 -
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Your missing the point, a Delay not totally removing it as its useful just doesn't need to be instant.
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thedragoon
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Posted - 2005.11.14 16:41:00 -
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signed.
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Mercade
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Posted - 2005.11.14 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Khabok
As a relatively newer player, I thought I'd offer my limited insights into this whole argument.
For me, having all of the information about exactly how many and who is in the same system as me kind of kills a big part of the game.
There's no hunting, there's no dodging, there's no sneaking, or sliding by an enemy or warping to a moon then doubling back and hoping he thinks you warped out only to have him suprise you by warping in on top of you a few minutes later.
There is only "Local [2]", and you know he's there, he knows you're there, and it's only a matter of time. The guy with the most money is going to win, and there's nothing you can do about it. He has a better ship, better character skills, and no matter how smart or skilled I am, he's going to find me and kill me, because he knows if I'm still in the system or not.
So the only thing to do is log out. I can't sneak away, I can't hide, I can't bring in friends without him knowing about it, I can't warp out to another system without him following.
This isn't a whine about how older players have more skills and I'll never catch up. I could care less about that.. I'm already getting to the point where I can hold my own when it comes to a fair fight. But I'm not stupid, either.. if I'm outmatched, outgunned, outmanuevered, or outskilled, I'm gonna save my ship (which being a newer player I can't afford to lose) the only way I know how.
I just think that's it's a missed opportunity on CCPs part to make the entire recon / stealth / sneaking part of the game a very intriguing addition. Personally, I'd head out to 0.0 a LOT more often if I knew I had a chance of getting away once in a while without having to log out and ruin the gameplay and immersion.
And honestly, I think that if somebody DID get the jump on me because I couldn't see him coming, while respawning I'd at least have the comfort of knowing he had to put in a little effort to actually find me as opposed to being able to count to 2. 
Khabok!
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2005.11.14 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: ian666
Signed.
In real life if youÆre walking down the road, you can only see the people in your line of sight, when you turn the corner you have no idea what might be lurking, so why allow people in eve to see whatÆs not in front of them?
aye... but if i had to tell u their was a 50% chance u would bump into 100 guys with bats, and beaten to death if u went down that street and turned that corner would you go?..
NO.. you would stay in your house, just like ppl would stay in empire in EVE if local was removed..
d solo.
Thats the same reason I want it kept and is the same reason I want instas kept too.
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SauronTheMage
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:17:00 -
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Everything in regards to chatrooms are just fine. If you can't handle people leaving before you have a chance to start grieving everyone then boo-hoo. Go pirate 0.0 or something and let the players who are trying to enjoy the game play. :)
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FoRGyL
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:20:00 -
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As long as the number of how many is in the system is left I can sign this!
AS u say when u see that number pop up u can start stressing that scan button.
My few cent!
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FoRGyL
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: SauronTheMage
Everything in regards to chatrooms are just fine. If you can't handle people leaving before you have a chance to start grieving everyone then boo-hoo. Go pirate 0.0 or something and let the players who are trying to enjoy the game play. :)
So this was about Lowsec pirates? 
Thought it was PVP and local ?
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SauronTheMage
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:30:00 -
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From what I gather, from actually reading most of the 3 pages... Pirates want the local chat removed / delayed in low sec (and removed in 0.0) just so they can grieve / kill people in the system before the victims have a chance to realize who is in the system & leave. I'm sure ccp can see through this thread as it's just a cry for grievers to be able to find ways to ruin the gaming experience even more for people trying to enjoy themselves.
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FoRGyL
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: FoRGyL on 15/11/2005 10:43:46
Originally by: SauronTheMage
From what I gather, from actually reading most of the 3 pages... Pirates want the local chat removed / delayed in low sec (and removed in 0.0) just so they can grieve / kill people in the system before the victims have a chance to realize who is in the system & leave. I'm sure ccp can see through this thread as it's just a cry for grievers to be able to find ways to ruin the gaming experience even more for people trying to enjoy themselves.
We can't enter Hisec if you didn't know!
And ruin?
Before I started pirating the thing I missed ost in Hisec was the extra heartrate when going in a lowsec space, otherwise there is above mentioned Hisec !
Wait what game are we talking about ?
But to answer, it is about getting a good solution for all but mainly the PvP aspect even if u r running/hiding or hunting!
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Brastagi
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:51:00 -
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In other news....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=248046
Someone can resort to this tactic
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SauronTheMage
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:53:00 -
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If they want to delay 0.0 space that is fine, or whatever method they use for showing the amount of people in a channel but not showing names until they start talking (after you join the channel). I know the blueprints channel is setup like this. For empire space (be it high or low sec) normal local chat is fine the way it is for people. The thought of not having concord there to protect the people who want to venture into low sec should be enough for them on making that transition. Once they decide to venture into 0.0, then that is a totally different ballgame. :)
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Guntaro
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Posted - 2005.11.15 11:14:00 -
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Not exactly sure what you mean by 'instant' local but removing the local listings is a really dumb idea. You will spend countless wasted time scanning every system only to find out if anybody is even there.
Something else must be added to the scanner system if local is removed to compensate for it.
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Word
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Posted - 2005.11.15 11:16:00 -
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pirate = pathetic... So, you only want a 30 sec delay in local.
How about this? NO blobs on the map. Then you dont know where to attack mining ops. Then you have to work for a living.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.11.15 12:34:00 -
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Posted - 2005.11.15 12:34:00 -
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signed for tank too
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ian666
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Posted - 2005.11.15 12:57:00 -
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Word, maybe you should get a petition going for a Popup when your out and enter a system with someone -0.1 saying hide someone in local who might attack? or better still, just take away all the ability to use wep's on someone unless that person agrees to you attacking them LOL.
Carebear's if there were no pirates then the market would become flooded plain and simple you should thank us for making you money. I also do mining but I use tactics so not to get caught out, but when I am you just cant beat the rush you get I canÆt say IÆve ever go wood from mining a veldspar roid for 8 hours yawn, but everyone has there turn on.
It all comes down to if you donÆt want to be killed and be protected everywhere then donÆt enter below 0.5 space then the concord will always protect you, otherwise donÆt moan about being killed.
I reckon Word is only Pi$$ed because he can't Macro Mine in low sec 
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2005.11.15 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: K3NDY
all eve pirates and pvpers who want to change instant local pls leave ur name here, players whined on forums and got the rax nerf'd. why not instant local?
pls give it a try and maybe ccp will listen
lol the problem is certain systems at times are like 90% pvpers and all those flashing red people scare away the locals.
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madaluap
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Posted - 2005.11.15 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 15/11/2005 15:47:06
Edited by: madaluap on 15/11/2005 15:44:41
Originally by: ian666
Carebear's if there were no pirates then the market would become flooded plain and simple you should thank us for making you money.
pirates arent that important in the whole pvp sector (pirate=0.4-0.1), most are merc, alliances or simply normal pvp corps.
actually im getting quite anoyed of the fact that 0.0 and empire(war) pvp is bigger, but pirates get more attention.
you will have big problems trying to find your target's if you fight in wars or 0.0. not to mention blobs...like everyone will be blind in eve.
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markol
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Posted - 2005.11.15 18:42:00 -
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