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pershphanie	Posted - 2005.11.13 05:35:00 - [211] Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 19:41:24 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Baun And what makes you think that PA/F-E intended to fight you? They were almost certainly more concerned with maintaining control than thinking they would get an engagement. Erm, hold on Baun - if they didn't want to fight, why jump in? Why not just encircle h-pa and prevent 5 from going anywhere, that's containment, I assume that's what you mean? And what you're saying goes entirely against what both pa AND f-e have said, apparently they DO want to fight. I would agree with you, given what F-E has said, but if you WANTED an engagement would you jump into 80 pilots with 200? If you do this you are guaranteed that one of the following things will happen: 1. The whole thing will lag out and no fight will be had 2. The 80 man force will simply hit their POS or SS 3. The 80 man fleet will stay for a second, take a few losses and then do #2. I can understand the notion behind showing alot of force and jumping into the system to show that they are in control. I can't see them doing this and expecting to get any sort of fight out of it. Hence, I can only conclude that they wanted to display dominance and were hoping to stumble into a few ganks along the way. gates. Actually we got wind of an 80man bob fleet heading our way. If you add that to the5's 80man blob thats 160pilots we were expecting. So us forming a 200pilot fleet is not really that unreasonable. The bob fleet ended taking a pit stop in deklein. Our pilots were got bored so we said screw it, lets play with the5. Anything that ****es off the the5 makes us happy. Next time we drop drones!
Baun	Posted - 2005.11.13 06:18:00 - [212] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 19:41:24 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Baun And what makes you think that PA/F-E intended to fight you? They were almost certainly more concerned with maintaining control than thinking they would get an engagement. Erm, hold on Baun - if they didn't want to fight, why jump in? Why not just encircle h-pa and prevent 5 from going anywhere, that's containment, I assume that's what you mean? And what you're saying goes entirely against what both pa AND f-e have said, apparently they DO want to fight. I would agree with you, given what F-E has said, but if you WANTED an engagement would you jump into 80 pilots with 200? If you do this you are guaranteed that one of the following things will happen: 1. The whole thing will lag out and no fight will be had 2. The 80 man force will simply hit their POS or SS 3. The 80 man fleet will stay for a second, take a few losses and then do #2. I can understand the notion behind showing alot of force and jumping into the system to show that they are in control. I can't see them doing this and expecting to get any sort of fight out of it. Hence, I can only conclude that they wanted to display dominance and were hoping to stumble into a few ganks along the way. gates. Actually we got wind of an 80man bob fleet heading our way. If you add that to the5's 80man blob thats 160pilots we were expecting. So us forming a 200pilot fleet is not really that unreasonable. The bob fleet ended taking a pit stop in deklein. Our pilots were got bored so we said screw it, lets play with the5. Anything that ****es off the the5 makes us happy. Next time we drop drones! I am not saying that gathering a 200man fleet is unreasonable. Rather, when you jumped in, given that you certainly had scouted the system (and ought to have know where BoB was at the time) you weren't jumping in in order to get a fight out of it, which is fine. Whether your purpose was to get yourself between BoB and 5, or simply to show that you, not they, were in control it seems that you accomplished it. The Enemy's Gate is Down
StiZum Hilidii	Posted - 2005.11.13 06:44:00 - [213] bob were a long way off from what i was told by the bob fc's and the map to match. doesnt matter tbh now FE killed some ships and thats about it. we were willing to fight every single ship they had at the gate but we didnt get to put on a show for your guys. would have been one hell of a show. anyways im sure we can leave this incident behind us now. and move on and hope we can have some fun fights again, cya on the field pa/nbsi/fe STAN FACTA NON VERBA ALTS FTL
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.11.13 06:53:00 - [214] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii bob were a long way off from what i was told by the bob fc's and the map to match. doesnt matter tbh now FE killed some ships and thats about it. we were willing to fight every single ship they had at the gate but we didnt get to put on a show for your guys. would have been one hell of a show. anyways im sure we can leave this incident behind us now. and move on and hope we can have some fun fights again, cya on the field pa/nbsi/fe Much <3 for you Mister. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
SengH	Posted - 2005.11.13 07:02:00 - [215] Too bad it didnt all go well.. might have been fight of the year if the server had held up. Hard to believe 3/4 of a year ago FOE vs Xetic worked fine with 100 v 100s now its all gone to crap
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2005.11.13 07:10:00 - [216] Originally by: SengH Too bad it didnt all go well.. might have been fight of the year if the server had held up. Hard to believe 3/4 of a year ago FOE vs Xetic worked fine with 100 v 100s now its all gone to crap quoted for the truth we can only hope for RMR Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Dillon Arklight	Posted - 2005.11.13 08:29:00 - [217] Has there deen a definitive CCP response to the whole "lag" problem? An action plan or whatever
Darken Two	Posted - 2005.11.13 08:38:00 - [218] Originally by: Dillon Arklight Has there deen a definitive CCP response to the whole "lag" problem? An action plan or whatever I think their action plan is "Bladeservers" Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Rexthor Hammerfists2	Posted - 2005.11.13 10:12:00 - [219] i lvoe the commercials bout the blades :)
Zigadenus	Posted - 2005.11.13 10:18:00 - [220] Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Dillon Arklight Has there deen a definitive CCP response to the whole "lag" problem? An action plan or whatever I think their action plan is "Bladeservers" I dunno. I think "Action Plan" = deliver faction ships to anyone that can recruit a noob that doesn't care about 0.0 lag to make up for the loss of accounts fed up with no viable fleet combat. ________________________________________________ Kyle > Why do you have to ask me all these complicated questions? Zerodragon > Dude, IÆm trying to save your setup from complete suckage.
ParMizaN	Posted - 2005.11.13 10:32:00 - [221] Originally by: SengH Too bad it didnt all go well.. might have been fight of the year if the server had held up. Hard to believe 3/4 of a year ago FOE vs Xetic worked fine with 100 v 100s now its all gone to crap ^_^ i remember commanding that .. miss those times :( Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
Gabriel Karade	Posted - 2005.11.13 10:40:00 - [222] I remember having 3 big fleet battles in one night with FoE, including a 30 minute slugfest in Obe with acceptable frame rate. I guess those days are long gone... (\_/) (O.o) (> <) "That's no ordinary rabbit!...that's the most foul, cruel and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on"
SengH	Posted - 2005.11.13 10:48:00 - [223] Originally by: Gabriel Karade I remember having 3 big fleet battles in one night with FoE, including a 30 minute slugfest in Obe with acceptable frame rate. I guess those days are long gone... That was my first experience pvping. My character was only 2 months old at that time and.. in the midst of the chaos in obe.. someone traded me a fully fitted vigil and told me to stick an X in alliance. My CEO told me to download TS and gave me the login/pass info. Flew with ballistic void in his frig squad for those fights and it was CRAZY. Flying thru the enemey fleet scrambling then getting locked by a AF and burning out.... getting emergency commands to report to planets... it was insanely fun lol. If all other new players could have a similar experience 2 mths into EVE. We'd have loads of people hauling ass out to 0.0. Too bad those days are gone now it seems
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.11.13 10:59:00 - [224] at least until RMR things are patchy - i wonder if that hotfix has been applied yet if SISI is still testing the TQ build then no if it isnt then we have a hotfix on TQ that is meant ot be hleping
Nimbu	Posted - 2005.11.13 12:29:00 - [225] Originally by: SengH That was my first experience pvping. My character was only 2 months old at that time and.. in the midst of the chaos in obe.. someone traded me a fully fitted vigil and told me to stick an X in alliance. My CEO told me to download TS and gave me the login/pass info. Flew with ballistic void in his frig squad for those fights and it was CRAZY. Flying thru the enemey fleet scrambling then getting locked by a AF and burning out.... getting emergency commands to report to planets... it was insanely fun lol. If all other new players could have a similar experience 2 mths into EVE. We'd have loads of people hauling ass out to 0.0. Too bad those days are gone now it seems Yes those were great days, and BV is an awesome Fc, shame he doesnt like the job too much, at least thats the impression I used to get..... 99% of the above is said in RP. The Other 1% is personal, and should be taken that way. :P
darth solo	Posted - 2005.11.13 12:36:00 - [226] Originally by: Termy Heh... Players names starting with "A" are trully cursed. pick a name like zqwexutqwer and live forever. d solo.
nemtrex	Posted - 2005.11.13 13:43:00 - [227] Originally by: Dillon Arklight Has there deen a definitive CCP response to the whole "lag" problem? An action plan or whatever It's not laggy according to them. 300 people got crappy computers/crappy ISP..
Dreez	Posted - 2005.11.13 15:26:00 - [228] The GMs responses probably will be: "We cannot see any abnormal behaviour in this system". Their definition of abnormal things have to go way beyond X-Files even... I might have ATUKO in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
shakaZ XIV	Posted - 2005.11.13 17:48:00 - [229] Originally by: Dreez The GMs responses probably will be: "We cannot see any abnormal behaviour in this system". And that's exactly the response I just got. Not impressed at all tbh.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.11.13 18:08:00 - [230] Originally by: Baun Whether your purpose was to get yourself between BoB and 5, or simply to show that you, not they, were in control it seems that you accomplished it. Baun, BoB were miles away at the time, we purposely kept away from the h-pa constellation because of lag and picked off those foolish enough to just "go home", having found BKG quite empty. All they "showed" was that they do actually know how to jump through a gate. I hope they remember that the next time we're around and they outnumber us, because the number of times they haven't jumped in on us, when we've been outnumbered (2:1, just as in this case) I don't even need fingers to count on. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.11.13 18:33:00 - [231] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Baun I hope they remember that the next time we're around and they outnumber us, because the number of times they haven't jumped in on us, when we've been outnumbered (2:1, just as in this case) I don't even need fingers to count on. I hear crap like this all the time, but it doesnt make any sense. I've been in the north along time and have never witnessed this happening. Why the hell wouldnt we jump into you if we outnumber you 2:1. When trying to lie and brag please make a bit of sense ffs.
Angelus X	Posted - 2005.11.13 18:37:00 - [232] Originally by: darth solo Originally by: Termy Heh... Players names starting with "A" are trully cursed. pick a name like zqwexutqwer and live forever. d solo. Word Feel my pain --------------------
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.11.13 18:37:00 - [233] Pers, I actually flew with you guys, when I was tps, when you refused to jump in when we outnumbered enemy. That was the last time I ever flew with you, it was pathetic. I've been in BoB fleets, and you've just sat, with greater numbers, on the other side of a gate. I've watched EVOL go up north, earlier this year, sit outnumbered 2:1 and you (PA, of which you were a member) will NOT jump in unless you have OVERWHELMING numbers, as has been proven in this event. So, before calling for proof, try to recall your own actions. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
LUKEC	Posted - 2005.11.13 18:49:00 - [234] Originally by: Dianabolic Pers, I actually flew with you guys, when I was tps, when you refused to jump in when we outnumbered enemy. That was the last time I ever flew with you, it was pathetic. I've been in BoB fleets, and you've just sat, with greater numbers, on the other side of a gate. I've watched EVOL go up north, earlier this year, sit outnumbered 2:1 and you (PA, of which you were a member) will NOT jump in unless you have OVERWHELMING numbers, as has been proven in this event. So, before calling for proof, try to recall your own actions. We sux, you know and also we know, but then again why you insist in coming to us, if we are so pathetic and helpless? Maybe you have some feeling back inside you, that you need to prove your uberness again and again? Do it then, because it is always coming to the same conclussions: north sux, Bob (and .5. used to, but they are getting better) are uber, best, most uber... props, now go back(or should i say come out of) to 5-6 and mine your brains out (or maybe some complex(with all chars :/)). Be back in a year or so :/
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.11.13 18:51:00 - [235] Originally by: Dianabolic Pers, I actually flew with you guys, when I was tps, when you refused to jump in when we outnumbered enemy. That was the last time I ever flew with you, it was pathetic. I've been in BoB fleets, and you've just sat, with greater numbers, on the other side of a gate. I've watched EVOL go up north, earlier this year, sit outnumbered 2:1 and you (PA, of which you were a member) will NOT jump in unless you have OVERWHELMING numbers, as has been proven in this event. So, before calling for proof, try to recall your own actions. Lol. I have never flown with you. I dont recall ever flying with tps. The only occasion i recall not jumping into bob when we had 'greater' numbers is when we were in a frig fleet and you had 10bs's 100km on the other side of the gate with bubbles up. And as i recall you guys wouldnt jump into us either. In fact rarely will you guys jump into anything. You sit above a gate sniping waiting for your opponent to jump into you. When they dont you guys come on the forums and cry about it. So I ask why would anyone jump into a situation when they know all of their battleships will be scrambled and all of your bs's can simply warp out if they get called a target?
SugarDaddy	Posted - 2005.11.13 18:54:00 - [236] Originally by: Dillon Arklight Has there deen a definitive CCP response to the whole "lag" problem? An action plan or whatever To my petition they said "THERE WAS NO LAG YOU FU**ING LYER" with nice words.
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2005.11.13 18:56:00 - [237] Edited by: Kcel Chim on 13/11/2005 18:58:46 Originally by: pershphanie So I ask why would anyone jump into a situation when they know all of their battleships will be scrambled and all of your bs's can simply warp out if they get called a target? For us it usually starts with stan talking about his balls and how big they are. Then somene says we will all die and others will say they are bored anyways. Then usually stan starts to sing and we jump in while sending a last bunch of prayers out. Amazing feeling if you actually pwn and survive such a moment ;) edit: when stan isnt around usually thol talks about stans balls and noone sings and thol says he will shoot anyone who doesnt wanna jump in. Rather depressive but i still wonder why he knows the size of stans balls.
Dreez	Posted - 2005.11.13 19:14:00 - [238] Originally by: Kcel Chim Rather depressive but i still wonder why he knows the size of stans balls. Ignorance is bliss . GM Mulder: Ships beeing abducted by aliens is a perfectly normal thing, there is nothing abnormal about it.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.11.13 19:16:00 - [239] Originally by: pershphanie In fact rarely will you guys jump into anything. You sit above a gate sniping waiting for your opponent to jump into you. And there, in 2 sentences, goes any credibility you might have. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Antoinette Civari	Posted - 2005.11.13 19:21:00 - [240] Originally by: Angelus X Originally by: darth solo Originally by: Termy Heh... Players names starting with "A" are trully cursed. pick a name like zqwexutqwer and live forever. d solo. Word Feel my pain yep :\ why hasnt anyone told me when i created this char. :\

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