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Drakos
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:02:00 -
[1]
so....
anyone shooting me? please dont i cant see enemies or frendlies :P
thanks ccp :)
ps: cmon PA and FE why do you need 200+ ppl to kill 80? we were kind enought to stay on the gate and get a fight, i starting to think that was a bad ideia.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:03:00 -
[2]
2 points on Thol
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:03:00 -
[3]
I got bored of waiting for a screen to load
GG CCP 
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:04:00 -
[4]
we setup from the gate 70 people in gang local then went nutz and jumped to 200. the screen just disappeared for me and i was like what?
our guys have been dropping like mad on our side and no one has seen a thing. :(
sucks for us we are gonna lose a fight to fe :(
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
ALTS FTL |
Nofake
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:05:00 -
[5]
This is ***, i can see and can do anything.
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Belzeem
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:06:00 -
[6]
So perhaps we shall see the true "exodus" of eve to the most ebil allanice ever "The Lag Allaince"
BOS- Corp Mascot |
Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:09:00 -
[7]
well i made a screenie 5 seconds efore i lost all visual.
my overview was empty even not even plants or gates on my overview.
after 5 minutes i warped out and after 5 more minutes without view i tried to relog but so far no luck :(
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shakaZ XIV
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:09:00 -
[8]
Im dead... apparently.
Never saw a thing. Even my ship and planets + everything else in the system disappeared from view as soon as enemies jumped in.
What a ******* joke.
So, anyone wanna play some Battlefield 2?
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Silvitni
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:10:00 -
[9]
Edited by: Silvitni on 12/11/2005 00:10:23
22.33
HEading for h-pa very lagzor :/
23.15
Even more lag. 2 jumps out of Five fleet. ~xxx in gang PA ~xxx, x jump behind
23.36
We¦re gonna jump into h-pa in like 2-3 mins.....
xxx in this system, 99% friendly
23.46
I jumped for like 3 mins ago....still in same system :/
23.55
make that 12 mins
23.57
OMG! what have i done to deserve this? they are killing baddies and im still loading :/
00.05
Still loading.....Five warped out from the gate
THIS IS BLOODY RIDICILUIOUS......LAG 4TL 
btw, this is from our forum
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:10:00 -
[10]
the fact that the jumping in side saw more than us is mad.
the first ever time f-e jump in on us in a proper fleet fight and they get to see more than us.
ccp you suck
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
ALTS FTL |
Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:12:00 -
[11]
Wait so the people who already had the grid loaded were the ones that lagged out?
Is this a first?
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:12:00 -
[12]
hmmm i sympathise with 5 i guess.... if theyre losing its not really their fault :| stupid serber :/
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful |
Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:13:00 -
[13]
Sadly, its moments like this that has turned Eve into the gankfest it is now. I can remember huge fights this size happening in U-QVWD during the CA-SA war. It seems that the sever can no longer handle it, probably due to the influx of new pilots. While the new players are more than welcome I do very much hope that the coming server upgrades will remidy this.
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tony1
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:13:00 -
[14]
Cache cleared. |
Aman Sul
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:14:00 -
[15]
cant even log back in
"Oh yeah there's enough for erbody" |
Calderio
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:14:00 -
[16]
im on a dial up connection, after 10 min of rocking back and forth, i loaded, 5 min later i had control of my ship, 2 min later i lost control of the ship, i still have modules turned on.
yarrr 
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let Nafri bring back her old sigs, the ones with peach's and stuff |
Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:14:00 -
[17]
about 6 minutes to load.
then couldnt active my mods or move.
basically it wasnt a battle and it sucked.
Thorax FTW!
Hi, I am your friendly neighbourhood spy! |
Darky24
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:14:00 -
[18]
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In... 
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:14:00 -
[19]
Tbh forget ccp. Jumping 210 into 90 is the most ******* retarded thing ever. Thank god we arnt PA and didnt stick our drones out lol.
Yes lag sucks but what do you ******* expect honestly.
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Drakos
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:15:00 -
[20]
Silvitni atleast you got to see us warp out... i could not even see OURSELFS, 90% of the five gang lost their screen when you jumped in. we could not see anything... our covert ops jumped after you and he kept reporting on TS who was getting killed.
cool huh?
its the first time i saw this happen... screen just dissapear all you see is space lol
only 5% of us were able to shoot at something. the rest just died or crashed lol
weeeeee BATTLEFIELD 2 yeah its on.
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Yzman Shhan
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:15:00 -
[21]
 Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
the fact that the jumping in side saw more than us is mad.
the first ever time f-e jump in on us in a proper fleet fight and they get to see more than us.
ccp you suck
Wtf is the point in this again? Lag won, that's it.. Both sides were laggy, I never saw any hostiles in the system and couldn't activate anything.
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emptydude
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:16:00 -
[22]
i'm just logging on after a night out and it wont load for me 
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:16:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Darky24
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In...
Be proud when needing more then 120 ships more too fight 
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HC MasiEEE
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Avoid
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:17:00 -
[24]
I didnt see annything at all, this was simply too lame. The worst thing is that the effect of this is so low.
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Darky24
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:17:00 -
[25]
Exactly, Bf2 For Me 
We Could Have Trashed Them Drakos 
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Silvitni
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:17:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Drakos
Silvitni atleast you got to see us warp out... i could not even see OURSELFS, 90% of the five gang lost their screen when you jumped in. we could not see anything... our covert ops jumped after you and he kept reporting on TS who was getting killed.
cool huh?
its the first time i saw this happen... screen just dissapear all you see is space lol
only 5% of us were able to shoot at something. the rest just died or crashed lol
weeeeee BATTLEFIELD 2 yeah its on.
I did not see you warp out.....
Heard it on our voice comms :/
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:17:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Aman Sul
cant even log back in
Me either
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:18:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Baun
Wait so the people who already had the grid loaded were the ones that lagged out?
Is this a first?
thats correct, everything dissapeared of screen and overview. it was just blank + UI for most of us. Even gate etc vanished.
i waited and waited and tried to warp out but ALL bms were on "approach" it finally worked when we found out we had someone at a ss so we could warp him at 15 to actually make it at all (tho the going into warp took 3 mins for me while beeing alligned to his position).
All in all i saw 3 frigs popup while i waited and tried to log them but they just timed to locked and then dissappeared. When i entered the pos bubble ofc i dropped con and it took me a few to load in again.
GG ccp - a true multiplayer game. Multi beeing 5-6 ppl. Some lans offer bigger multiplayer aspects atleast i didnt lose my ship this time.
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:19:00 -
[29]
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 00:19:53
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Baun
Wait so the people who already had the grid loaded were the ones that lagged out?
Is this a first?
thats correct, everything dissapeared of screen and overview. it was just blank + UI for most of us. Even gate etc vanished.
i waited and waited and tried to warp out but ALL bms were on "approach" it finally worked when we found out we had someone at a ss so we could warp him at 15 to actually make it at all (tho the going into warp took 3 mins for me while beeing alligned to his position).
All in all i saw 3 frigs popup while i waited and tried to log them but they just timed to locked and then dissappeared. When i entered the pos bubble ofc i dropped con and it took me a few to load in again.
GG ccp - a true multiplayer game. Multi beeing 5-6 ppl. Some lans offer bigger multiplayer aspects atleast i didnt lose my ship this time.
Well Focht thats the first time ive ever heard of that happening, sounds eminently frustrating.
I wonder how many of the pilots who jumped in had to do an emergency warp out because they couldn't load though?
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:19:00 -
[30]
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: Darky24
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In...
Be proud when needing more then 120 ships more too fight
A show of force is good sometimes, ya know?
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:20:00 -
[31]
Yay for having to tell people wether they made it to teh pos alive or not.
ccp ghey bye
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jepsam newface2
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:21:00 -
[32]
its taking me 15 minutes to logg in atm, is that you guys fault?? :?
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:21:00 -
[33]
Agin this wasnt a fight.. i know alot of our fleet couldnt see anything and i know that 5 fleet couldnt see anything. I was one of the lucky peeps who actually could see what happend after 5min of waiting.. This is just sad Fleet battles is impossible...
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:21:00 -
[34]
You were expecting no lag?
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:22:00 -
[35]
It's so nice to see that in the middle of all the frustration you guys must feel, I know I sure would, you never forget to smacktalk the **** out of eachother...
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
Br0dY
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:22:00 -
[36]
TA CCP for another wasted evening, this was the poorest I've seen from this game and I've seen lots of wierd bulls*it in EVE since being here.
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redeye uk
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:22:00 -
[37]
still haven't loaded yet....
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:24:00 -
[38]
CCP were INFORMED about this comming fight and still did not send a GM to monitor the system or the fight.
Pilots screens went blank and never loaded, appearently on both sides.
CCP , YOU SUCK !!.
I might have ATUKO in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:24:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Baun
Well Focht thats the first time ive ever heard of that happening, sounds eminently frustrating.
I wonder how many of the pilots who jumped in had to do an emergency warp out because they couldn't load though?
Was quiet frustrating idd but just exspected seeing how the fleetbattles so far up north went.
Apparently the nodes (for a reason unknown to me) sometimes even dont manage a 30-40 ppl fleet just moving through an emty system without emergency warps after jumping into an empty system.
As for the attackers, seeing the feedback we got they had alot of warpouts or loading stucks aswell just as their numbers were bigger it seemed their % of accessable pilots also increased in same fashion.
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Smithers
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:25:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Boldyn
It's so nice to see that in the middle of all the frustration you guys must feel, I know I sure would, you never forget to smacktalk the **** out of eachother...
Didnt you get officially warned by an alliance you are not even a full member of yet for smacking?
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From Paris to Berlin and every disco i get in, my heart is pumping for love, pumping for love.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:26:00 -
[41]
Edited by: pershphanie on 12/11/2005 00:26:47
On behalf of FE I appologise for braking h-pa.
btw - did i live?
edit: FE > CCP. pwned. |
Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:27:00 -
[42]
mmh, just got back in from teh pub after going out coz fe went to bkg, now i dont know whether im happy or sad i missed this 
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DaHeaVYFo
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:27:00 -
[43]
lol, have fun, glad I'm not out there!
My Latest video: [The -V- Conflict] |
Hulubu
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:27:00 -
[44]
11 five cans ... sorry guys both fleets where lagggggggeeeeeeeeddddddddd ooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttttttt 10 mins of lag then 30 secs of fighting
whomever saw fight
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:27:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Shin Ra
You were expecting no lag?
i will bite this rather obvious troll.
Im not exspecting "no lag" whenever i enter my password.
Tho there is a fine difference between "lag which is common for multiplayer games", "lag which might effect a few on each side" and "lag which shatters both fleets and only a handfull on each side can hope to actually SEE the screen".
So we were exspecting lag, just not a "game over" or "windows bluescreen".
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:27:00 -
[46]
Every fleet battle I was in, ended in something like this. This time it took 5 mins for the screen to load. I was unable to do a thing after that. Only saw messages like "xxxxxx left the system xxxxx ago". And the modules couldn't deactivate after they finally activated. Not fun at all.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:28:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Amthrianius
mmh, just got back in from teh pub after going out coz fe went to bkg, now i dont know whether im happy or sad i missed this
Be happy. i was planning on calling you primary. |
aeti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:29:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Baun
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 00:19:53
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Baun
Wait so the people who already had the grid loaded were the ones that lagged out?
Is this a first?
thats correct, everything dissapeared of screen and overview. it was just blank + UI for most of us. Even gate etc vanished.
i waited and waited and tried to warp out but ALL bms were on "approach" it finally worked when we found out we had someone at a ss so we could warp him at 15 to actually make it at all (tho the going into warp took 3 mins for me while beeing alligned to his position).
All in all i saw 3 frigs popup while i waited and tried to log them but they just timed to locked and then dissappeared. When i entered the pos bubble ofc i dropped con and it took me a few to load in again.
GG ccp - a true multiplayer game. Multi beeing 5-6 ppl. Some lans offer bigger multiplayer aspects atleast i didnt lose my ship this time.
Well Focht thats the first time ive ever heard of that happening, sounds eminently frustrating.
I wonder how many of the pilots who jumped in had to do an emergency warp out because they couldn't load though?
its happened before in HLW about a year ago
we jumped into the CA fleet, never loaded them, they couldn't see most of us either
then the SA fleet warped in on top of the curse one, and loaded everybody
Originally by: pershphanie
On behalf of FE I appologise for braking h-pa.
btw - did i live?
somebody did mention the only ship they saw was your scorp? and had a go at shooting :\
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:30:00 -
[49]
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: Darky24
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In...
Be proud when needing more then 120 ships more too fight
A show of force is good sometimes, ya know?
even if it ruins a nice fight ?
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HC MasiEEE
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:33:00 -
[50]
I heard on TS the cargo can's had no problem warping out though. They must not have been lagged as bad.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:33:00 -
[51]
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: Darky24
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In...
Be proud when needing more then 120 ships more too fight
A show of force is good sometimes, ya know?
even if it ruins a nice fight ?
We still fought. it was just a little more rediculous than normal. |
Silvitni
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:33:00 -
[52]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Tbh forget ccp. Jumping 210 into 90 is the most ******* retarded thing ever. Thank god we arnt PA and didnt stick our drones out lol.
Yes lag sucks but what do you ******* expect honestly.
Well Loxy, just quit this war, if you feel the odds are against you
Sorry, but this was not meant as smack, but just stating being jumped by bigger fleet is a part of the game.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:36:00 -
[53]
I'd just like to take this opportunity to say:
Whiners.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:36:00 -
[54]
I'd just like to take this opportunity to say:
Whiners.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:37:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Dianabolic
I'd just like to take this opportunity to say:
Whiners.
well you made your point 2 times now
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HC MasiEEE
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:37:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Silvitni
Originally by: LoxyRider
Tbh forget ccp. Jumping 210 into 90 is the most ******* retarded thing ever. Thank god we arnt PA and didnt stick our drones out lol.
Yes lag sucks but what do you ******* expect honestly.
Well Loxy, just quit this war, if you feel the odds are against you
Sorry, but this was not meant as smack, but just stating being jumped by bigger fleet is a part of the game.
Quantity does not make Quality.
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Darcuese
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:38:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Darcuese on 12/11/2005 00:39:23
No point of talking about that Lag.
Cant wait till next patch come with all those new , nice, shiny stuff...Titan, carrier...great..MORe, MORe, MORE
BTW, we didnt have bubble and drones out to cut the lag as much as possible...didnt help much
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ALL my words on this forum are my OWN thoughts and opinions |
TURBOman
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:41:00 -
[58]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: Darky24
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In...
Be proud when needing more then 120 ships more too fight
A show of force is good sometimes, ya know?
even if it ruins a nice fight ?
We still fought. it was just a little more rediculous than normal.
Well sorry to inform you but we didn't fight, didn't get a single target called, and all the people that died never even loaded... so that wasn't fighting in any sence of the word...
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:43:00 -
[59]
Originally by: TURBOman
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: Darky24
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In...
Be proud when needing more then 120 ships more too fight
A show of force is good sometimes, ya know?
even if it ruins a nice fight ?
We still fought. it was just a little more rediculous than normal.
Well sorry to inform you but we didn't fight, didn't get a single target called, and all the people that died never even loaded... so that wasn't fighting in any sence of the word...
They finally won, so its a fight for them i guess 
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HC MasiEEE
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:43:00 -
[60]
I hope everyone will petition their losses?
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:47:00 -
[61]
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
They finally won, so its a fight for them i guess
Go with you smartass post elwhere thx
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:47:00 -
[62]
For once I'm glad I missed this fight 
The truth will set you free
* Proud to be ATUK * |
HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:49:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
They finally won, so its a fight for them i guess
Go with you smartass post elwhere thx
hope i didn't hurt yer feelings 
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HC MasiEEE
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:51:00 -
[64]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Amthrianius
mmh, just got back in from teh pub after going out coz fe went to bkg, now i dont know whether im happy or sad i missed this
Be happy. i was planning on calling you primary.
Good job i was using an alt!
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anister
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:51:00 -
[65]
Well that f'kin sucked...
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I refuse to change my sig every time someone wardecs us. |
Mitch Taylor
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:53:00 -
[66]
Same thing happened in DTX
rubbish eh
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Rysse Andrama
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:53:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Rysse Andrama on 12/11/2005 00:53:55
Edited by: Rysse Andrama on 12/11/2005 00:53:32
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: TURBOman
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: Darky24
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In...
Be proud when needing more then 120 ships more too fight
A show of force is good sometimes, ya know?
even if it ruins a nice fight ?
We still fought. it was just a little more rediculous than normal.
Well sorry to inform you but we didn't fight, didn't get a single target called, and all the people that died never even loaded... so that wasn't fighting in any sence of the word...
They finally won, so its a fight for them i guess
If people dont like the lag, then dont fly up there
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:56:00 -
[68]
Originally by: LcGhK9
I hope everyone will petition their losses?
I am sure they will. Well, assuming that they can log in.
Now can someone explain to me why fighting in cruisers and frigs in empire isn't more fun than this? Friday night crash 4tl.
Nyxus
Oveur> "CUZ I'M EEEXXTTRRREEEEEEEEMME!!" |
Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.12 00:58:00 -
[69]
yea ws much more fun when we all were in emp
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:05:00 -
[70]
Originally by: aeti
Originally by: Baun
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 00:19:53
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Baun
Wait so the people who already had the grid loaded were the ones that lagged out?
Is this a first?
thats correct, everything dissapeared of screen and overview. it was just blank + UI for most of us. Even gate etc vanished.
i waited and waited and tried to warp out but ALL bms were on "approach" it finally worked when we found out we had someone at a ss so we could warp him at 15 to actually make it at all (tho the going into warp took 3 mins for me while beeing alligned to his position).
All in all i saw 3 frigs popup while i waited and tried to log them but they just timed to locked and then dissappeared. When i entered the pos bubble ofc i dropped con and it took me a few to load in again.
GG ccp - a true multiplayer game. Multi beeing 5-6 ppl. Some lans offer bigger multiplayer aspects atleast i didnt lose my ship this time.
Well Focht thats the first time ive ever heard of that happening, sounds eminently frustrating.
I wonder how many of the pilots who jumped in had to do an emergency warp out because they couldn't load though?
its happened before in HLW about a year ago
we jumped into the CA fleet, never loaded them, they couldn't see most of us either
then the SA fleet warped in on top of the curse one, and loaded everybody
Ahhh I remember that fight and the ****storm it caused.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:08:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Nyxus
Originally by: LcGhK9
I hope everyone will petition their losses?
I am sure they will. Well, assuming that they can log in.
Now can someone explain to me why fighting in cruisers and frigs in empire isn't more fun than this? Friday night crash 4tl.
Nyxus
login to the site here -> eve support -> ask a question
select reimbursment then combat
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Drakos
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:13:00 -
[72]
Originally by: aeti
Originally by: Nyxus
Originally by: LcGhK9
I hope everyone will petition their losses?
I am sure they will. Well, assuming that they can log in.
Now can someone explain to me why fighting in cruisers and frigs in empire isn't more fun than this? Friday night crash 4tl.
Nyxus
login to the site here -> eve support -> ask a question
select reimbursment then combat
3 days later u get a reply saying - the logs dont show anything wrong and we hope you can recover from you loss fast, thank you.
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:15:00 -
[73]
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: TURBOman
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: TheJay
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: Darky24
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In...
Be proud when needing more then 120 ships more too fight
A show of force is good sometimes, ya know?
even if it ruins a nice fight ?
We still fought. it was just a little more rediculous than normal.
Well sorry to inform you but we didn't fight, didn't get a single target called, and all the people that died never even loaded... so that wasn't fighting in any sence of the word...
They finally won, so its a fight for them i guess
You need to make your trolling less blatant
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:15:00 -
[74]
Yep, PA/F-e/NBSI won their first " fleet fight"
We lost more ships, yes.
We kill any ships? no.
So five sucks and pa/f-e/nbsi won cus they're the uber ****zle.
Stay in h-pa, and we'll show you fights were the five fleet actually loads you guys.
Untill then, keep living the dream.
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:20:00 -
[75]
Rumour sais that you were contacted by "Big brother" who
stated that your fleet were to big to jump in, yet you proceeded.
But thats just a rumour  .
I might have ATUKO in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
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Eznake
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:21:00 -
[76]
Dont forget SE where there also:-)
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Silvitni
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:21:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Tholarim
Yep, PA/F-e/NBSI won their first " fleet fight"
We lost more ships, yes.
We kill any ships? no.
So five sucks and pa/f-e/nbsi won cus they're the uber ****zle.
Stay in h-pa, and we'll show you fights were the five fleet actually loads you guys.
Untill then, keep living the dream.
Thol, you don¦t suck
Will you marry me?
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:22:00 -
[78]
Thol, everyones said it was a lag fest, why u gotta smack?
Cartiff, CEO
Euphoria Released
NUBSIES 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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MrSpock
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:23:00 -
[79]
No one lost a ship.
CCP stole them.
First up: PA |
Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:24:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Dreez
Rumour sais that you were contacted by "Big brother" who
stated that your fleet were to big to jump in, yet you proceeded.
But thats just a rumour .
LMAO omg you actually belive that?? I tryed anything i could to lat the GM know we need more power. no1 contacted us.. second again if you dont like when we assemble our fleet go back to emp..
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Aman Sul
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:26:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Silvitni
Originally by: Tholarim
Yep, PA/F-e/NBSI won their first " fleet fight"
We lost more ships, yes.
We kill any ships? no.
So five sucks and pa/f-e/nbsi won cus they're the uber ****zle.
Stay in h-pa, and we'll show you fights were the five fleet actually loads you guys.
Untill then, keep living the dream.
Thol, you don¦t suck
Will you marry me?
If he wont suck... what's the point?
"Oh yeah there's enough for erbody" |
Kirin
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:30:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Darkrydar
I heard on TS the cargo can's had no problem warping out though. They must not have been lagged as bad.
LOL yea that was quite funny to see a cargo can warp out.
It was bad, I was inside with a covert ops at the [5] fleet, heard the command for th efleet to jump in, watched the target fleet sit there, two of my gang's bships emergency warped, then nothing, no change or anything, then someone started calling targets. It was insane lag, took me about 5 mins to finally warp off to a SS so I could relog and get back in.
Remember the toes you step on today are still connected to the arse you may have to kiss tomorrow.
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Alex Krause
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:31:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Dreez
Rumour sais that you were contacted by "Big brother" who
stated that your fleet were to big to jump in, yet you proceeded.
But thats just a rumour .
if you dont like when we assemble our fleet go back to emp..
It was pretty commical when you had to go pick up the extra PA fleet and hold their hands on the way down. so ppl actually thought there was gonna be some tactical manuvering so there might have been a real fight.
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:32:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Cartiff
Thol, everyones said it was a lag fest, why u gotta smack?
A lagfest is when ppl have trouble activating mods. But what no1 seems to understand, is that no1 in the five fleet could shoot back, since no1, not a single fc/bs/cruiser/inty/covop pilot even loaded our enemies. We simply did not see the enemy fleet appear, we also could not warp withing 5 minutes, nor see any objects in space (moons stations etc).
I don't see any smack, i was merely replying to the omg we won statements made in local by the combined 200 pilots..... If that's what it takes for you guys to win. Congratz you won the fight. Now let's see if you guys actually stick around for a few days.
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:34:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 12/11/2005 01:34:05
Screenshot: The combined FE/NBSI/PA fleet just before they jumped in.
--
Intergalactic Teeth Pullers
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
Albert Einstein |
Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:39:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Cartiff
Thol, everyones said it was a lag fest, why u gotta smack?
A lagfest is when ppl have trouble activating mods. But what no1 seems to understand, is that no1 in the five fleet could shoot back, since no1, not a single fc/bs/cruiser/inty/covop pilot even loaded our enemies. We simply did not see the enemy fleet appear, we also could not warp withing 5 minutes, nor see any objects in space (moons stations etc).
I don't see any smack, i was merely replying to the omg we won statements made in local by the combined 200 pilots..... If that's what it takes for you guys to win. Congratz you won the fight. Now let's see if you guys actually stick around for a few days.
m8 we didnt say that all was saying this wasnt a battle and was sad..anyway lats leave the smack and just say its impossible to do Fleet battles atm
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Aman Sul
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:41:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Aman Sul on 12/11/2005 01:41:43
Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 12/11/2005 01:34:05
Screenshot: The combined FE/NBSI/PA fleet just before they jumped in.
They OnlY had 202 to our 83 we would have slaughterd them!!! 
BTW leave Thol alone he is just frustrated like the rest of us at EVE ATM
"Oh yeah there's enough for erbody" |
TheJay
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:41:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Cartiff
Thol, everyones said it was a lag fest, why u gotta smack?
A lagfest is when ppl have trouble activating mods. But what no1 seems to understand, is that no1 in the five fleet could shoot back, since no1, not a single fc/bs/cruiser/inty/covop pilot even loaded our enemies. We simply did not see the enemy fleet appear, we also could not warp withing 5 minutes, nor see any objects in space (moons stations etc).
I don't see any smack, i was merely replying to the omg we won statements made in local by the combined 200 pilots..... If that's what it takes for you guys to win. Congratz you won the fight. Now let's see if you guys actually stick around for a few days.
Who was it that was saying omg we won?
From what I remember, everyone was *****ing about lag....
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:44:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
Screenshot: The combined FE/NBSI/PA fleet just before they jumped in.
5 surely must've known about being outnumbered more than 2 to 1 before the northeners jumped in? I mean, why do you even stay on a gate with those numbers against you, unless it's coz you hope all of them will lag out on the jump in, so you can massacre them.
p - l - u - r |
ph33rf4ct0ry
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:49:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Ras Blumin
Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
Screenshot: The combined FE/NBSI/PA fleet just before they jumped in.
5 surely must've known about being outnumbered more than 2 to 1 before the northeners jumped in? I mean, why do you even stay on a gate with those numbers against you, unless it's coz you hope all of them will lag out on the jump in, so you can massacre them.
So by your thinking FE,PA,NBSI gathered a large fleet to be massacred?
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Silvitni
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:51:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Silvitni on 12/11/2005 01:52:54
Edited by: Silvitni on 12/11/2005 01:52:11
im smacking......self justice initiated.....
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Sotiria
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:52:00 -
[92]
OMFG 5 stop whining. If the tables were reversed you would be loving it. Even if the fleets had had identical numbers it would have been a total lag fest.
And i love the way u assume you are the centre of the universe. Fact is that fleet was probably assembled to meet the more interesting blob that arrived in the nick of time to help your sorry asses out!
Damn right im an alt, bite me! |
Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2005.11.12 01:58:00 -
[93]
I was in 9-2 shadowing the fleet, so when they jumped through I only heard what happened on TS.
5-10 people said something like "My ship has disappeared"
2-3 people said "I'm taking damage but can't see anything"
Everyone said "I can't see anything either"
1-2 people saw 2-3 ships and called them as targets.
Tholarim (I think it was him) said "Warp out, it's not loading and they are killing us"
5-10 minutes later people started warping out and it wasn't TS lag.
General lag cluster f**k, not enjoyable after the couple of hours of build up preceeding it.
TBH It was a total waste of a Friday evening for almost 300 players.
--
Intergalactic Teeth Pullers
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
Albert Einstein |
Melko
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:00:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Sotiria
OMFG 5 stop whining. If the tables were reversed you would be loving it. Even if the fleets had had identical numbers it would have been a total lag fest.
And i love the way u assume you are the centre of the universe. Fact is that fleet was probably assembled to meet the more interesting blob that arrived in the nick of time to help your sorry asses out!
Damn right im an alt, bite me!
probablyIs the operative word because in your case it means; "I wasn't there have no clue and just like to make an 455 of my self on the forums" the again you where probably dropped on your head when you ***** mother saw what an ass faced critter she had just brought to this world
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:01:00 -
[95]
Well, I was lagged pretty bad, and I got shots on all the targets that were called....lag was bad on both sides, but having lost plenty of ships to lag, with no one crying for me, all I can say is I am glad I made it through this one.
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Aldari Verve
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:14:00 -
[96]
This is only days after a highly successful installation of TMS RAMSAN 400 Solid State Disk Array virtually eliminating all Database related LAG in EVE Online.
LOL must have come back or just wemnt into hibernation and popped out today in h-pa
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:18:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Aldari Verve
This is only days after a highly successful installation of TMS RAMSAN 400 Solid State Disk Array virtually eliminating all Database related LAG in EVE Online.
LOL must have come back or just wemnt into hibernation and popped out today in h-pa
Well spotted that combat lag is not database related.
/hands over a cookie
Eve Blacklight Style
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Cowboy
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:18:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Dianabolic
I'd just like to take this opportunity to say:
Whiners.
quoted for the truth
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:19:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 02:18:53
Originally by: Aldari Verve
This is only days after a highly successful installation of TMS RAMSAN 400 Solid State Disk Array virtually eliminating all Database related LAG in EVE Online.
LOL must have come back or just wemnt into hibernation and popped out today in h-pa
I am relatively certain ability to read/write from the DB has almost nothing to do with server bandwidth load (or whatever causes strain when you have assloads of pilots in one areas).
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:20:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Baun
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 02:18:53
Originally by: Aldari Verve
This is only days after a highly successful installation of TMS RAMSAN 400 Solid State Disk Array virtually eliminating all Database related LAG in EVE Online.
LOL must have come back or just wemnt into hibernation and popped out today in h-pa
I am relatively certain ability to read/write from the DB has almost nothing to do with server bandwidth load (or whatever causes strain when you have assloads of pilots in one areas).
100% cpu load afaik
or that was what we were told last time we tried to move a 200+ person fleet
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:21:00 -
[101]
Originally by: aeti
Originally by: Baun
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 02:18:53
Originally by: Aldari Verve
This is only days after a highly successful installation of TMS RAMSAN 400 Solid State Disk Array virtually eliminating all Database related LAG in EVE Online.
LOL must have come back or just wemnt into hibernation and popped out today in h-pa
I am relatively certain ability to read/write from the DB has almost nothing to do with server bandwidth load (or whatever causes strain when you have assloads of pilots in one areas).
100% cpu load afaik
or that was what we were told last time we tried to move a 200+ person fleet
Last time I moved a 200 person fleet it sorta worked :O
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Aman Sul
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:24:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: aeti
Originally by: Baun
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 02:18:53
Originally by: Aldari Verve
This is only days after a highly successful installation of TMS RAMSAN 400 Solid State Disk Array virtually eliminating all Database related LAG in EVE Online.
LOL must have come back or just wemnt into hibernation and popped out today in h-pa
I am relatively certain ability to read/write from the DB has almost nothing to do with server bandwidth load (or whatever causes strain when you have assloads of pilots in one areas).
100% cpu load afaik
or that was what we were told last time we tried to move a 200+ person fleet
Last time I moved a 200 person fleet it sorta worked :O
I dont think they had a problem moving the 200 man fleet after all they reached the targe system intact.
"Oh yeah there's enough for erbody" |
Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:24:00 -
[103]
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: Darky24
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In...
Be proud when needing more then 120 ships more too fight
oh yeah ur real god damn smart there arent u
because of course if u didnt have more ppl u wouldnt take advantage of that
GOOD THINKING THERE
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:25:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Aman Sul
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: aeti
Originally by: Baun
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 02:18:53
Originally by: Aldari Verve
This is only days after a highly successful installation of TMS RAMSAN 400 Solid State Disk Array virtually eliminating all Database related LAG in EVE Online.
LOL must have come back or just wemnt into hibernation and popped out today in h-pa
I am relatively certain ability to read/write from the DB has almost nothing to do with server bandwidth load (or whatever causes strain when you have assloads of pilots in one areas).
100% cpu load afaik
or that was what we were told last time we tried to move a 200+ person fleet
Last time I moved a 200 person fleet it sorta worked :O
I dont think they had a problem moving the 200 man fleet after all they reached the targe system intact.
This is true.
Quoting 4tw.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:27:00 -
[105]
guess it depends if you are lucky with the nodes I guess :/
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Gazmus
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:31:00 -
[106]
yeah fair play to the five gang for staying and trying to fight. Shame none of us could see or do anything,
Lag ftl
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Drakos
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:36:00 -
[107]
the funny thing is... 1 year ago we could actually have a 100 vs 100 man fleetbattle... laggy yes but we could play the game and actually activate modules, see the enemies, etc. now... anything around 100 ppl in local ready to fight and there we go another waste of time.
its really poor when you see comments on alliance/corp chat of ppl saying they dont wanna fleetbattle because its gonna lag to hell and back so they decide not to join in.
this is why 80% of the pvp in eve is either 1on1 or ganks, wich in my opinion sucks.
for me personaly this next patch is the stay or go patch, i am getting tired of this. ( i know you dont care ) If this lag stays all my accounts will be ebayed weee ( shss dont tell anyone ).
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:41:00 -
[108]
pretty much thinking the same
next patch is the stay or go one.
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
ALTS FTL |
Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:47:00 -
[109]
Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry
So by your thinking FE,PA,NBSI gathered a large fleet to be massacred?
No, I just personally wouldn't have the balls to engage a fleet while being that outnumbered if I knew both sides would have equal amounts of lag.
But I'm not involved anymore, so I'll do the right thing and stfu
p - l - u - r |
Drakos
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:52:00 -
[110]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
pretty much thinking the same
next patch is the stay or go one.
dude you saw what happened when you and sickboy tried to kill my APC? dont try again!
i have a bigger gun than you.
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:53:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Drakos
the funny thing is... 1 year ago we could actually have a 100 vs 100 man fleetbattle... laggy yes but we could play the game and actually activate modules, see the enemies, etc. now... anything around 100 ppl in local ready to fight and there we go another waste of time.
One wonders how much of that has to do with server resources shifted to the 4-5 systems in empire that have constant local populations 2 times as high as Yulai ever was.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Eznake
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:53:00 -
[112]
Ok just 1 quick question is it a fact that when % is in trouble thay cal BOB for help or is it just that BOB fight the north anyway??
I thought BOB where from north killing south??
Anyway it looks like 5 is in need of help that why they begging bob for help
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:56:00 -
[113]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
sucks for us we are gonna lose a fight to fe :(
Think its safe to say that any winning or losing of that fight was a completly random occurance. |
StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.11.12 02:59:00 -
[114]
agreed.
you guys fancy a couple of games of hang man to solve this
_ _ _
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
ALTS FTL |
aeti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:01:00 -
[115]
why does everybody *always* have to go play bf2 instead which I don't have :|
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Silvitni
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:01:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Drakos
the funny thing is... 1 year ago we could actually have a 100 vs 100 man fleetbattle... laggy yes but we could play the game and actually activate modules, see the enemies, etc. now... anything around 100 ppl in local ready to fight and there we go another waste of time.
its really poor when you see comments on alliance/corp chat of ppl saying they dont wanna fleetbattle because its gonna lag to hell and back so they decide not to join in.
this is why 80% of the pvp in eve is either 1on1 or ganks, wich in my opinion sucks.
for me personaly this next patch is the stay or go patch, i am getting tired of this. ( i know you dont care ) If this lag stays all my accounts will be ebayed weee ( shss dont tell anyone ).
Totally agree on this one Drakos......
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Drakos
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:04:00 -
[117]
Originally by: aeti
why does everybody *always* have to go play bf2 instead which I don't have :|
64 PPL in Local fighting like mad and no lag? :P
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shakaZ XIV
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:05:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Eznake
Ok just 1 quick question is it a fact that when % is in trouble thay cal BOB for help or is it just that BOB fight the north anyway??
I thought BOB where from north killing south??
Anyway it looks like 5 is in need of help that why they begging bob for help
We didnt even know there was BOB people around untill someone said so on teamspeak. So, plz go troll elsewhere. Thx.
We were quite happy to have a go at it with 70-80 vs 200 :/ Even with no lag our losses would probably have been harsh but.. ffs lemme shoot at something atleast!
Are we just supposed to safespot/dock/log and wait till "danger is over" every time hostile alliances bring a massive fleet then? Imho, that would be ridiculous. Because that would mean that if your fleet is > 200 you can steamroll anything (especially POS's!) unopposed.
PS: Agil looks nice this time of day
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:06:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Drakos
Originally by: aeti
why does everybody *always* have to go play bf2 instead which I don't have :|
64 PPL in Local fighting like mad and no lag? :P
Thats not true. The netcode in that game is craptastic.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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TheJay
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:07:00 -
[120]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
agreed.
you guys fancy a couple of games of hang man to solve this
_ _ _
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:10:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Amthrianius
mmh, just got back in from teh pub after going out coz fe went to bkg, now i dont know whether im happy or sad i missed this
Be happy. i was planning on calling you primary.
Good job i was using an alt!
I know, captiancrunch. |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:16:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Eznake
Ok just 1 quick question is it a fact that when % is in trouble thay cal BOB for help or is it just that BOB fight the north anyway??
I thought BOB where from north killing south??
Anyway it looks like 5 is in need of help that why they begging bob for help
HI
no.
Sorry to dissapoint you.
We saw the fat blob and we came up to kill it.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL5) Kenin
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:25:00 -
[123]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Eznake
Ok just 1 quick question is it a fact that when % is in trouble thay cal BOB for help or is it just that BOB fight the north anyway??
I thought BOB where from north killing south??
Anyway it looks like 5 is in need of help that why they begging bob for help
HI
no.
Sorry to dissapoint you.
We saw the fat blob and we came up to kill it.
dbp
actually one of our alts saw you guys heading north and thats why we formed the blob. |
Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:43:00 -
[124]
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: Darky24
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In...
Be proud when needing more then 120 ships more too fight
No offense, but that is incredibly funny coming from a BloB.
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
Sovereignty 2.0 |
Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:46:00 -
[125]
Awesome fight in h-pa 15min ago 5:)) great fun
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:48:00 -
[126]
small scraps for the win!
Thorax FTW!
Hi, I am your friendly neighbourhood spy! |
Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.12 03:49:00 -
[127]
atleats we killed an ishkur
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.12 04:00:00 -
[128]
The day [5] ask us for help is the day I come screaming and laughing to these forums to tell you about it.
Won't it, Stan?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Legioner
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Posted - 2005.11.12 04:22:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Drakos
so....
ps: cmon PA and FE why do you need 200+ ppl to kill 80? we were kind enought to stay on the gate and get a fight, i starting to think that was a bad ideia.
I can ask the same quastion. Why do u need 100 ppl to kill 15 RAT BSs?
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Alex Krause
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Posted - 2005.11.12 04:27:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Originally by: Darky24
You Guys Are Lucky This Happend, We Had 200 Guys Jumping In...
Be proud when needing more then 120 ships more too fight
No offense, but that is incredibly funny coming from a BloB.
looks like oyu guys are doing rahter well against them
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2005.11.12 06:18:00 -
[131]
Hmmm...I was going to join the party but took a nap instead...sounds like I got the better deal.
_________________
[SAK] And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus
Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler
Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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Zigadenus
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Posted - 2005.11.12 06:22:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Del Narveux
Hmmm...I was going to join the party but took a nap instead...sounds like I got the better deal.
Without a doubt. It was an utter waste of an afternoon.
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Kyle > Why do you have to ask me all these complicated questions?
Zerodragon > Dude, IÆm trying to save your setup from complete suckage. |
Hobblin I
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Posted - 2005.11.12 06:36:00 -
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I must reiterate. EVE does NOT support large fleet battles. If CCP claim it does, they are simply lying.
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Casius
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Posted - 2005.11.12 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: Casius on 12/11/2005 06:51:52
Edited by: Casius on 12/11/2005 06:51:34
Originally by: Eznake
Ok just 1 quick question is it a fact that when % is in trouble thay cal BOB for help or is it just that BOB fight the north anyway??
I thought BOB where from north killing south??
Anyway it looks like 5 is in need of help that why they begging bob for help
1. 5 Never asked for help
2. Lets not forget 1 alliance is fighting 3
3. The fact that u bring 200 vs 80
4. Well done u can form up a big fleet. U think 5 cant?
most of time 5 limit gang size so we get to fight.
Alot of times i have not been able to join a gang coz there are enough to fight whats in dest system.
No need for us to fly around north with a fleet too big that no1 will fight we rather have smaller gangs to actually get a fight from our enemy.
5. We are not crying coz u outblob us. we invaded u we expect to be outblobbed just shows how f-e/pa/nbsi think.
u could bring 100 vs our 80 have more than us still get a fight. Why lag the system out? rather just bring a bigger fleet and kick our ass
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.11.12 07:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 12/11/2005 07:07:14
Originally by: Casius
Quote:
2. Lets not forget 1 alliance is fighting 3
hmm are you kidding m8 we got you and the risk guys in 0.0 we got V KIA in emp, we had SA now we got ASCN. And stop the **** about we are comming with to many ship you guys repution is alrdy on the downfall dont make it worse.. Its a joke whining about the blob..
Why cant we just kill eachother ingame have abit of fun instead of these forums wars..
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MrSpock
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Posted - 2005.11.12 07:09:00 -
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Our reputation is on the downfall?
What next? .5. getting ganked mining omber in low sec?
don't think so...
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Alex Krause
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Posted - 2005.11.12 07:18:00 -
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Yes, 5's rep must be going down that is why they stuck around to fight outnumbered by 120...
I'm SO SURE any of you northern supergods would have fought with those odds...
Oh thats right, if 5 brings 75% of your numbers you need to deploy drones to lag out the jumpin in some thinly veiled attempt to survive the fight...
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2005.11.12 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: MrSpock
Our reputation is on the downfall?
What next? .5. getting ganked mining omber in low sec?
don't think so...
well i just saw a .5. Probe going through m-o pip in direction h-pa, not sure if he is gonna mine omber tho
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Casius
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Posted - 2005.11.12 07:36:00 -
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Edited by: Casius on 12/11/2005 07:36:25
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Its a joke whining about the blob..
Did u read point no 5????
I post it again in case u missed it
"we are not crying about being outblobbed"
I would have thought u would rather kill us than lag us out of the area as the lag will affect u too but killing us will only affect us
Just common sense i thought
and we are not working with other allainces and as i said in my last post we did not ask for any help
cmon u expect to get a fight with almost 300 in system? U have been in eve long enough to know that was not gonna happen due to lag
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MrSpock
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Posted - 2005.11.12 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: MrSpock
Our reputation is on the downfall?
What next? .5. getting ganked mining omber in low sec?
don't think so...
well i just saw a .5. Probe going through m-o pip in direction h-pa, not sure if he is gonna mine omber tho
Yes, that's my weekly anal Probe, reporting for duty
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BOldMan
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Posted - 2005.11.12 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Its a joke whining about the blob..
Why cant we just kill eachother ingame have abit of fun instead of these forums wars..
Why?
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BOldMan
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Posted - 2005.11.12 08:02:00 -
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Edited by: BOldMan on 12/11/2005 08:03:04
dbl post
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omega2
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Posted - 2005.11.12 09:00:00 -
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well i remember stain curse war before exodus a 200 vs 200 fight was able but lagged a bit (had bout 10 fps) but after ? ÷hm yeah after it 30 vs 30 and 5 of 1 side lagged out .
to your blob last night : i was 10 jumps of and it lagged like hell for ma gang
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Corranisis
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Posted - 2005.11.12 09:11:00 -
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That was the best battle I've had in months.
I'm referring to the fisticuffs between my eve client and myself.
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There are just so many more neutral to shoot at with these empire wars,unfortunately concord h4x.
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.11.12 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jherek Cornelian on 12/11/2005 09:19:57
Edited by: Jherek Cornelian on 12/11/2005 09:19:34
2. Lets not forget 1 alliance is fighting 3
Is that 5 RISK and V against F-E ? Or is that 5 ASCN and RISK against F-E ? If you mean PA F-E NBSI v 5 V RISK and ASCN that would be 3 alliances fighting 4 alliances.
Of course I can prove anything with facts
3. The fact that u bring 200 vs 80
When the war started you (5) made a great post on how this would be a blob war and we would be crying about your blobs, but no quarter would be given.
4. Well done u can form up a big fleet. U think 5 cant?
most of time 5 limit gang size so we get to fight.
Alot of times i have not been able to join a gang coz there are enough to fight whats in dest system.
No need for us to fly around north with a fleet too big that no1 will fight we rather have smaller gangs to actually get a fight from our enemy.
Meaning as the defender of our region it would be chivalrous of us to just have 80 in our gang - but we brought 200 instead. How rude of us, had we only been able to muster 40 pilots I'm quite sure you would have done the right thing and told 40 of your pilots to leave making for a nice fair fight.
5. We are not crying coz u outblob us. we invaded u we expect to be outblobbed just shows how f-e/pa/nbsi think.
see your point 3.
The thing about eve Casius and it's not just you, is that everyone is quite happy to 'do unto others' but not happy with the 'as they do to you' bit.
'hahah we are uber we had 200 and they had 20 - silly noobs are trying to petition'
'lame basts they had 200 we only had 20 lame laaaaaaaaaaame I'm gonna petition'
those 2 statements (in one form or another) usually pop up on everyones forums once every month or so
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.11.12 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Smithers
Originally by: Boldyn
It's so nice to see that in the middle of all the frustration you guys must feel, I know I sure would, you never forget to smacktalk the **** out of eachother...
Didnt you get officially warned by an alliance you are not even a full member of yet for smacking?
Wasn't that a missunderstanding and don't you have a main?
And it's not "not full member of yet" either, but go ahead and asume things from under whatever rock you live..
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FILFIUS
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Posted - 2005.11.12 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: Casius
Edited by: Casius on 12/11/2005 06:51:52
Edited by: Casius on 12/11/2005 06:51:34
Originally by: Eznake
Ok just 1 quick question is it a fact that when % is in trouble thay cal BOB for help or is it just that BOB fight the north anyway??
I thought BOB where from north killing south??
Anyway it looks like 5 is in need of help that why they begging bob for help
1. 5 Never asked for help
2. Lets not forget 1 alliance is fighting 3
3. The fact that u bring 200 vs 80
4. Well done u can form up a big fleet. U think 5 cant?
most of time 5 limit gang size so we get to fight.
Alot of times i have not been able to join a gang coz there are enough to fight whats in dest system.
No need for us to fly around north with a fleet too big that no1 will fight we rather have smaller gangs to actually get a fight from our enemy.
5. We are not crying coz u outblob us. we invaded u we expect to be outblobbed just shows how f-e/pa/nbsi think.
u could bring 100 vs our 80 have more than us still get a fight. Why lag the system out? rather just bring a bigger fleet and kick our ass
Err guys...100 vs 80 and the fight still would have been a winner for da lag. The reason 200 men came to fight is because, a call went out to form a 5 killing gang and plenty wanted in. We have more numbers so it stands to reason we are going to have bigger fleets sometimes. I dont think people intended to form a 200 man gang.
This is a problem for CCP, take your anger out on them. We are just as dissapointed that we spent 2 hrs of our night, to see a spectacular fault with Eve.
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Mollari Cotto
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Posted - 2005.11.12 09:26:00 -
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poor 5. Boo Hoo. Next time think twice before coming up. 200 was easy to get together. Lag is not our problem it's ccps. Get your GM friends to use more cpu on our nothern nodes next time... and while your at it get them to add a 10/10 complex to even things out a bit.
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Ajaya
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Posted - 2005.11.12 09:43:00 -
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Quote:
Is that 5 RISK and V against F-E ? Or is that 5 ASCN and RISK against F-E ? If you mean PA F-E NBSI v 5 V RISK and ASCN that would be 3 alliances fighting 4 alliances.
Just wanted to point out that R.I.S.K.'s efforts are to invade and attack The Phoenix Alliance at the moment. To the best of my knowledge we haven't actively persued any course of action that will take us into direct conflict with NBSI / FE in their space, aside from normal encounters as we pass through their space, or when PA need to assemble a fleet larger than 10 mining barges, and is forced to seek help from NBSI / FE.
Sucks that these large fleet fights don't work. It'd be fun, but every one I've been in has been complete and utter BS due to stupid amounts of lag. Only time I've been in a sizeable fleet (about 75 ships total) that didn't crash out was the night I moved out to Catch region with the R.I.S.K. fleet. Any thing that size in PVP has been absolute crap game experience. Wish CCP could fix this stuff.
On one hand, I can understand massive blobs for defending your area. Everyone wants to get in on the fun so it's not really an easy thing to do to tell one person they can't come along and get in on the gank but this other person can. On the other hand, when you have a fleet of 200+ jumping in on a fleet of almost 100, everyone in their right mind should know that the server won't handle it. To be honest I'm impressed everyone in that area didn't CTD due to the jump in :P
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 10:19:00 -
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Well you can be garunteed on this I wont be involved in a lag fest like that for a long time.
It was a complete waste of time.
As for the comments about bringing to many people.
When we used to run around providence killing things, we had a group of some hacs and cruisers, in total about 8.
5 bring a group of abotu 15 - 20 mostly in bs, myself and pat were in a the same channel as carth and loxy and said why did you bring so many?
They replyed with its hard to stop people from coming who really want a fight, which is so true.
Its not lame, its just a fact.
Thorax FTW!
Hi, I am your friendly neighbourhood spy! |
Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.11.12 10:36:00 -
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We're not whining about the numbers.
If we didnt want to engage we wouldnt have sat on that gate but at our POS.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.11.12 10:37:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
We're not whining about the numbers.
If we didnt want to engage we wouldnt have sat on that gate but at our POS.
qft
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 10:41:00 -
[153]
Yes you wanted a fight because you are agressive pvp'ers and I gotta respect you guys for that, staying on the gate while a much much large gang jumped took massive balls.
But the general feeling in local and by some members on these forums was that when the lag kicked in it was all our fault for bringing so many
Thorax FTW!
Hi, I am your friendly neighbourhood spy! |
NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.12 10:53:00 -
[154]
lol @ those 5 whining about numbers
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Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2005.11.12 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
Yes you wanted a fight because you are agressive pvp'ers and I gotta respect you guys for that, staying on the gate while a much much large gang jumped took massive balls.
But the general feeling in local and by some members on these forums was that when the lag kicked in it was all our fault for bringing so many
we not saying tis your fault
even if you braught the same numbers the same thing could jave happened, and besides it should be possible but maybe next time we shoudl meet in 9-2 both sides jumps in and we meet somwhere in that bigass system
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Monkey Time
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Posted - 2005.11.12 11:11:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Monkey Time on 12/11/2005 11:12:52
Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
Well you can be garunteed on this I wont be involved in a lag fest like that for a long time.
It was a complete waste of time.
As for the comments about bringing to many people.
When we used to run around providence killing things, we had a group of some hacs and cruisers, in total about 8.
5 bring a group of abotu 15 - 20 mostly in bs, myself and pat were in a the same channel as carth and loxy and said why did you bring so many?
They replyed with its hard to stop people from coming who really want a fight, which is so true.
Its not lame, its just a fact.
a sensible post and straight to the point. Its not our fault that there is lag but everyone is aware that if you form such a big fleet the game just wont work.
This is why we normally travel around in groups of about 10 (but it can be higher because people want to go on an op) and end up "ganking", as you would say, because the game just wont support fleet battles.
Like all MMO's, you need to know how the game works and work around it, not just how to play it.
It was an impressive show of force. Will you be able to do the same again in 1 months time?
I look forward to finding out :)
Edit
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Why did you go north first? Did the navigator have the map upside down?
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C4w3
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Posted - 2005.11.12 11:15:00 -
[157]
Normal FE behavior... dont get supprised.
FE still OMGWTFSUCKS in my eyes.
C4w3.
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
Love Ya
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Posted - 2005.11.12 11:22:00 -
[158]
Originally by: shakaZ XIV
We didnt even know there was BOB people around untill someone said so on teamspeak. So, plz go troll elsewhere. Thx.
And now i have to take your word on this and beleive you right.. ?
LOL
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Ishana
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Posted - 2005.11.12 11:57:00 -
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I wasn't there but man.. Stop the whining!
This isn't anything new. I still have a movie on my HD from 24th of july were foundation "fought" with a [5]& -V- fleet. It was the same thing, people not loading people CTDing, all kinds of crap...
There was a simular thread to this on and it was full of smack and whining.
Last time [5] picked off the foundation ships warping back to the gate, and we were t3h suckzor for dying.
Now the same thing happens with these fleets and [5] is still t3h uber and will pwn us all, while the rest suxzors.
Plz...
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Zmeu
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Posted - 2005.11.12 11:57:00 -
[160]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Tbh forget ccp. Jumping 210 into 90 is the most ******* retarded thing ever. Thank god we arnt PA and didnt stick our drones out lol.
Yes lag sucks but what do you ******* expect honestly.
jeez whats wrong with you????
you come invade our space.. and still whine about noumbers?
if you dont like it.. go away.. leave us alone!
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.12 11:58:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Love Ya
Originally by: shakaZ XIV
We didnt even know there was BOB people around untill someone said so on teamspeak. So, plz go troll elsewhere. Thx.
And now i have to take your word on this and beleive you right.. ?
LOL
no need to believe him, just use your brain.
If we had waited on bob instead of you guys we would have sat at a ss or pos.
On the otherhand i dont know how u get that we would ask anyone for assistance after the 2 time emberrassment ur alliance produced defending bkg.
@ the various F-E and NBSI guys crying in this thread, it is not your fault, its ccps fault for having craptastic coding and lag. We waited for you to jump in and didnt deploy drones + bubbles so maybe ask yourself to find either a "jumpin protocol" or a "numberlimitation" so we can actually fight it out. Because i honestly doubt your 200 ppl spend their friday afternoon full of joy with the only aim to crash the server. More likely you folks wanted the same we wanted, a solid awesome "ground for blood" pvp encounter in epic dimensions.
Unfortunately neither of us got it and just got annoyed.
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Zmeu
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Posted - 2005.11.12 12:13:00 -
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why i am upset is.. taht in empire you can have 300 pl in a system.. even 200 shuttles on a gate as we saw in Jita BUT noo.. we cant in 0.0 ..... come on ccp dont forget us... plllleaaaaseeee
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2005.11.12 12:18:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Zmeu
why i am upset is.. taht in empire you can have 300 pl in a system.. even 200 shuttles on a gate as we saw in Jita BUT noo.. we cant in 0.0 ..... come on ccp dont forget us... plllleaaaaseeee
Cos 300 ppl arent at the same location, 60% are most likely docked also
I find it funny people fly aroudn in 200 man fleets then cry about lag, Eve will never support that many people at one location
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Love Ya
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Posted - 2005.11.12 12:44:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Love Ya
Originally by: shakaZ XIV
We didnt even know there was BOB people around untill someone said so on teamspeak. So, plz go troll elsewhere. Thx.
And now i have to take your word on this and beleive you right.. ?
LOL
no need to believe him, just use your brain.
If we had waited on bob instead of you guys we would have sat at a ss or pos.
... bla.. bla.. bla
And you are? his/her lawyer/spoke person ? cause i think he can answer by him self right, or is your second account and in that case is ok.
O yes i use my brain, and i beleive you where trying to have our fleet between two way fire but your plan backfire cause we where just a bit faster and manage to jump on you before your plan worked the way you wanted..
I beleive this tactic was used by you last time in BKG if i am not mistaken.
Good tactical move, but be ownest with your selfs and talk no rubbish.
We have a say in my country : Once bitten yes, but beware the second time cause we going to return the favour,
And something for whiners if you cannot handle it terminate your accounts and let us play the game .... for sure will be less LAG..
To CCP
DAMN YOU CCP last nights FUN was really a sadistic joke or ?
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.12 12:55:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Love Ya
bla.. bla.. bla
And you are? his/her lawyer/spoke person ? cause i think he can answer by him self right, or is your second account and in that case is ok.
You were not requesting an answer directly from him, instead you were making a general statement. However if you want to talk to him alone i suggest you use evemail and not the forums.
Quote:
O yes i use my brain, and i beleive you where trying to have our fleet between two way fire but your plan backfire cause we where just a bit faster and manage to jump on you before your plan worked the way you wanted..
I beleive this tactic was used by you last time in BKG if i am not mistaken.
Good tactical move, but be ownest with your selfs and talk no rubbish.
Ugh thats some delusional crap and lacks any piece of logic but ill still touch it in the vain hope you might see the light.
How would we catch you in the crossfire and with who ?
Not even to mention you spend 10 minutes in 9-2 and were followed and observed your whole way down from bkg.
Keeping that in mind, how were we surprised or where did you move "fast" ? It took you like 2h for those 15 jumps.
Sorry no, we werent surprised nor did we exspect a bobfleet as we had tabs on them aswell.
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We have a say in my country : Once bitten yes, but beware the second time cause we going to return the favour,
And something for whiners if you cannot handle it terminate your accounts and let us play the game .... for sure will be less LAG..
To CCP
DAMN YOU CCP last nights FUN was really a sadistic joke or ?
Buhu, seems the pain is deep in you that the last times you got outsmarted and pwned, trying to get back anyway possible now, arent we ?
As u might have read lag was bad for all sides and ruined the fun for all of us equally. Unless ure not playing for fun ?
Btw i hope u dont command their fleets, with your warped sense of tactics and understanding of pvp it would be better if YOU quit the whining and go back to empire to run lvl 4 missions to reduce the lag instead.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:02:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Zmeu
Originally by: LoxyRider
Tbh forget ccp. Jumping 210 into 90 is the most ******* retarded thing ever. Thank god we arnt PA and didnt stick our drones out lol.
Yes lag sucks but what do you ******* expect honestly.
jeez whats wrong with you????
you come invade our space.. and still whine about noumbers?
if you dont like it.. go away.. leave us alone!
I understand completly why you blob up to such numbers, i understand we will be outnumbered most of the time, i understand that your defending your space and we are the attacks.
Doesnt mean your not retards when u blob up to over 200. Whatever improvements ccp make that would never have worked.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:05:00 -
[167]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Zmeu
Originally by: LoxyRider
Tbh forget ccp. Jumping 210 into 90 is the most ******* retarded thing ever. Thank god we arnt PA and didnt stick our drones out lol.
Yes lag sucks but what do you ******* expect honestly.
jeez whats wrong with you????
you come invade our space.. and still whine about noumbers?
if you dont like it.. go away.. leave us alone!
I understand completly why you blob up to such numbers, i understand we will be outnumbered most of the time, i understand that your defending your space and we are the attacks.
Doesnt mean your not retards when u blob up to over 200. Whatever improvements ccp make that would never have worked.
loxy you;re better than that
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:17:00 -
[168]
Edited by: NAFnist on 12/11/2005 13:19:19
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Zmeu
Originally by: LoxyRider
Tbh forget ccp. Jumping 210 into 90 is the most ******* retarded thing ever. Thank god we arnt PA and didnt stick our drones out lol.
Yes lag sucks but what do you ******* expect honestly.
jeez whats wrong with you????
you come invade our space.. and still whine about noumbers?
if you dont like it.. go away.. leave us alone!
I understand completly why you blob up to such numbers, i understand we will be outnumbered most of the time, i understand that your defending your space and we are the attacks.
Doesnt mean your not retards when u blob up to over 200. Whatever improvements ccp make that would never have worked.
hypocrit
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:25:00 -
[169]
Originally by: ParMizaN
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Zmeu
Originally by: LoxyRider
Tbh forget ccp. Jumping 210 into 90 is the most ******* retarded thing ever. Thank god we arnt PA and didnt stick our drones out lol.
Yes lag sucks but what do you ******* expect honestly.
jeez whats wrong with you????
you come invade our space.. and still whine about noumbers?
if you dont like it.. go away.. leave us alone!
I understand completly why you blob up to such numbers, i understand we will be outnumbered most of the time, i understand that your defending your space and we are the attacks.
Doesnt mean your not retards when u blob up to over 200. Whatever improvements ccp make that would never have worked.
loxy you;re better than that
I know im sorry , i stay out of smack on the forums and ive just had Cordy tell me off too . But as a video maker it gets me annoyed when i cant see anything to film .
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:28:00 -
[170]
Originally by: NAFnist
hypocrit
We weren't about to engage any hostiles there now were we? That was just a show of force.
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Smithers
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:30:00 -
[171]
Originally by: NAFnist
Edited by: NAFnist on 12/11/2005 13:19:19
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Zmeu
Originally by: LoxyRider
Tbh forget ccp. Jumping 210 into 90 is the most ******* retarded thing ever. Thank god we arnt PA and didnt stick our drones out lol.
Yes lag sucks but what do you ******* expect honestly.
jeez whats wrong with you????
you come invade our space.. and still whine about noumbers?
if you dont like it.. go away.. leave us alone!
I understand completly why you blob up to such numbers, i understand we will be outnumbered most of the time, i understand that your defending your space and we are the attacks.
Doesnt mean your not retards when u blob up to over 200. Whatever improvements ccp make that would never have worked.
hypocrit
That was us just moving into curse, not looking for a fight just a clear path
Really, think before you reply
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:31:00 -
[172]
As elve said that was just a public event to announce our presence in the world. We didnt go fight anyone with that blob.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:38:00 -
[173]
I'll make this as simple as I can for the people that think [5] asked BoB for any kind of help, they didn't.
Now, if you guys need to tell yourselves that they asked us for help to help you sleep at night, be our guests, you're only gonna be fooling yourselves and that, dear people, is a very dangerous state to be in.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:38:00 -
[174]
whatever you guys say ..
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:43:00 -
[175]
Well, one thing is for sure: this has to be one of the most boring fleet battles to watch, in case someone made a .avi with FRAPS
The battle lasted 30 mins or so, and I didnt see a single enemy during the whole time.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:47:00 -
[176]
Tonights main dissapointment for me was not the horrendous lag in a system where 200 jumped 80, or later on in nearby systems where maybe 80 jumped 40, or whatever.
It's the fact that CCP has somewhere along the way turned a mechanism that worked reasonably into a continuous lag generator. We all know what it is, it's called the session change.
Last night, we moved our 80 or so guys in two groups to reduce the effect of this crap piece of coding or whatever it is. Yet still, a gang of 40 of which maybe 25 were moving around using gangwarps and thus semi-simultanious jumping lagged to death along the way, as far as 30 jumps from any other system with more then ten people in it....
Yet, not even 6 months ago this was easy, no lag at all when mving up to 50 people, and bearable lag in fights as large as 100+v 100+.
This shuld have nothing at ALL to do with increase dplayer numbers, and even if it does, its pure negligence on CCP's part to not have adressed this effectively yet.
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Power to the players !
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:51:00 -
[177]
Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 12/11/2005 13:51:06
From my POV its easy.
There's roughly 600 players in 0.0 involved in fighting one way or another (Rough guess: 200 PA/F-E/NBSI, 80 [5], 80 BoB, i heard rumours of 100 FIX, then there was SA vs G/IRON which accounted for another 50 on both sides according to a corpmate.) So 600 is a very generous number already.
Then you got 10k people in empire, doing their thing.
Guess who gets priority and guess who gets the finger.
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.11.12 13:59:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
atleats we killed an ishkur
If you call trading an Arma+Domi for an Ishkur a good fight,
then i¦d say you need to re-evaluate the situation.
3 of the armas guns pays for the Ishkur .
I might have ATUKO in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.11.12 14:04:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Guess who gets priority and guess who gets the finger.
If CCP truely wanted an exodus to 0.0
You would think the priority would be 0.0
I dont like big fleets, and after reading this thread, im glad I didnt tag along.
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.11.12 14:08:00 -
[180]
Originally by: w0rmy
I dont like big fleets, and after reading this thread, im glad I didnt tag along.
I'm highly ****ed off because i actually clonejumped to H-PA to be in this fight. That's pretty much how desperate i am to get a fight nowadays.
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 14:09:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Dreez
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
atleats we killed an ishkur
If you call trading an Arma+Domi for an Ishkur a good fight,
then i¦d say you need to re-evaluate the situation.
3 of the armas guns pays for the Ishkur .
You seem to evaluate a good fight on basis that you win it, your telling me you've never been in a fight you lost that you enjoyed.
Thorax FTW!
Hi, I am your friendly neighbourhood spy! |
Void Hawk
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Posted - 2005.11.12 14:16:00 -
[182]
Couple things. The northern fleet was formed because we had intel about a massive blob coming to attack the north. When said blob didn't appear we went to h-pa which took FOREVER.
While this was going on I was in h-pa watching the 5 fleet covertly for almost half an hour. They knew we were coming and waited for us. They didn't release drones and I give them much credit for that. And when the northen fleet jumped in my screen emptied. Still had the space background but everything, overiew, planets, ships all of it disappeared and would not come back.
I feel bad we didn't get the massive fleet battle but I'm not suprised. 5 members have complained in the past that NBSI uses fast attack frig gangs. This is one reason why. The game doesn't support massive fleet battles especially in the north and we've known that since the first battle for v7 against xelas/Bob and friends. Small frig gangs FTW!
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.11.12 14:20:00 -
[183]
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=246808
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Drakos
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Posted - 2005.11.12 14:55:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
Originally by: Dreez
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
atleats we killed an ishkur
If you call trading an Arma+Domi for an Ishkur a good fight,
then i¦d say you need to re-evaluate the situation.
3 of the armas guns pays for the Ishkur .
You seem to evaluate a good fight on basis that you win it, your telling me you've never been in a fight you lost that you enjoyed.
just ignore dreez mate.
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Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2005.11.12 14:57:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Sadly, its moments like this that has turned Eve into the gankfest it is now. I can remember huge fights this size happening in U-QVWD during the CA-SA war. It seems that the sever can no longer handle it, probably due to the influx of new pilots. While the new players are more than welcome I do very much hope that the coming server upgrades will remidy this.
Was talking about this i corp yesterday... in the old times, before exodus, the lag was different... it was there, but not soo heavy, and as I can not find a proper word, different.
MY first fleet battle was down in the hart of curse, I was sitting in my brand new mega, my skills only was enough to fly it, I was a part of the allied SA-ATUK-CFS-FA fleet. There were at least 300 ppl in the same system.
It was laggy like hell, it toke 2 min to load the screen, but after it loaded, I was able to turn in moduls, and such. It was different.
Or like i the old FA days, when FA alone was able to pull a 180 man fleet in a hour and go crush CFS, who had nearly the smae size of fleet.. The station in Tpar, was full with warp boubbles, and drons, 270+ in local, but surprise! it worked, and it was a awesome fight... it was laggy, it was slow, nearly toke 2 hour , I hade 5 fps, but I was able to activate my moduls, turn around my ship, lock the enemy ect ect...
Nowdays, the lag, do not let you fly your ship, the screen do not show the enemy .. ect ect.. This is all happening after the "SHIVA" patch... CCP seriously screwed up some code in the network... CCP please REVISIT IT!!!.
No one will fly a 3 Dread + 2 Mother ship + 5 Carrier + 20 BS + support in an invasion, because if not the enemy, than the lag will kill that fleet.
The fight in H-PA could be a mayor victory to the allied NBSI-PA-F-E fleet against the .5, but what happened was a bull.... I thin I free to say that the .5 guys like to die in combt rather than LAG. And same for me. I was not able to fire a single, I was scrambling an enemy scorpin for 2 min, than he warped out, and from the logs it turned out, the time I locked him, he was not even there and I lost the lock LOOONNNG time ago...
guess, for now, back to 10 an gankfleets.
CCP, your dream is TERRITORY CONTROL. I tell you a secret, from the history of mankind, it is damn evident, that who brinng the bigger and more gunis into a fight will win tha catual fight. You can not do anything about that. There will be always huge fleet fights. Its time to upgrade the CPUs... damn buy some 3000+ ones your hardwer is outdated. 70.000*12USD = 840.000 USD A MONTH... tell me it is not enough to buy 100 * 3000+ cpus...
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.11.12 15:06:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
You seem to evaluate a good fight on basis that you win it, your telling me you've never been in a fight you lost that you enjoyed.
I stand corrected, a fight can still be good even if you did
not win or lost more then your opponent.
You seem like a reasonable pilot and you have my respect.
I might have ATUKO in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 15:09:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Dreez
Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
You seem to evaluate a good fight on basis that you win it, your telling me you've never been in a fight you lost that you enjoyed.
I stand corrected, a fight can still be good even if you did
not win or lost more then your opponent.
You seem like a reasonable pilot and you have my respect.
<3
Thorax FTW!
Hi, I am your friendly neighbourhood spy! |
Gibmundur
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Posted - 2005.11.12 15:31:00 -
[188]
100ish fights are totally lagged out in esoteria, cant even imagine the 300ish lagg, must be horried
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.11.12 17:06:00 -
[189]
I think FE/PA/NBSI need to bring more people next time ;) I understand homefield advantage and all that. But myabe next time drop off 100 in the system next door. Use them as reserves bring in 10-20 at a time during the fight.
Prolly still wouldnt help but you never know.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.11.12 17:14:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Balazs Simon
Originally by: Darkrydar
Sadly, its moments like this that has turned Eve into the gankfest it is now. I can remember huge fights this size happening in U-QVWD during the CA-SA war. It seems that the sever can no longer handle it, probably due to the influx of new pilots. While the new players are more than welcome I do very much hope that the coming server upgrades will remidy this.
Was talking about this i corp yesterday... in the old times, before exodus, the lag was different... it was there, but not soo heavy, and as I can not find a proper word, different.
MY first fleet battle was down in the hart of curse, I was sitting in my brand new mega, my skills only was enough to fly it, I was a part of the allied SA-ATUK-CFS-FA fleet. There were at least 300 ppl in the same system.
It was laggy like hell, it toke 2 min to load the screen, but after it loaded, I was able to turn in moduls, and such. It was different.
Or like i the old FA days, when FA alone was able to pull a 180 man fleet in a hour and go crush CFS, who had nearly the smae size of fleet.. The station in Tpar, was full with warp boubbles, and drons, 270+ in local, but surprise! it worked, and it was a awesome fight... it was laggy, it was slow, nearly toke 2 hour , I hade 5 fps, but I was able to activate my moduls, turn around my ship, lock the enemy ect ect...
Nowdays, the lag, do not let you fly your ship, the screen do not show the enemy .. ect ect.. This is all happening after the "SHIVA" patch... CCP seriously screwed up some code in the network... CCP please REVISIT IT!!!.
No one will fly a 3 Dread + 2 Mother ship + 5 Carrier + 20 BS + support in an invasion, because if not the enemy, than the lag will kill that fleet.
The fight in H-PA could be a mayor victory to the allied NBSI-PA-F-E fleet against the .5, but what happened was a bull.... I thin I free to say that the .5 guys like to die in combt rather than LAG. And same for me. I was not able to fire a single, I was scrambling an enemy scorpin for 2 min, than he warped out, and from the logs it turned out, the time I locked him, he was not even there and I lost the lock LOOONNNG time ago...
guess, for now, back to 10 an gankfleets.
CCP, your dream is TERRITORY CONTROL. I tell you a secret, from the history of mankind, it is damn evident, that who brinng the bigger and more gunis into a fight will win tha catual fight. You can not do anything about that. There will be always huge fleet fights. Its time to upgrade the CPUs... damn buy some 3000+ ones your hardwer is outdated. 70.000*12USD = 840.000 USD A MONTH... tell me it is not enough to buy 100 * 3000+ cpus...
this man has it on the nail. listen to him ccp
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
ALTS FTL |
Laendra
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Posted - 2005.11.12 17:34:00 -
[191]
What irritates me most about this...we petitioned the GMs about the impending huge fleet fight waaaay before PA/F-E jumped in. They responded that they would monitor the situation. I mean, ffs, why the hell can't they allocate a higher percentage of resources to the system in question. I know that they have said that they cannot dynamically allocate resources on the fly due to the fact that they cannot maintain state across the servers, but come on...you know this is a major problem...write the code that will allow you to do this..
Take a snapshot of the system as it is, and start recording state changes...place that snapshot of the system on the Fleet-optimized server, "freeze" the old system and roll those state changes over to the Fleet-optimized server, then "unfreeze" the system, allowing everyone to act normally...I would hope that it would be as "simple" as this...if it isn't, that is what you should work for...
Ah f*ck it, I'm probably just being retarded, and CCP will never have a solution for this.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.11.12 18:21:00 -
[192]
CCP asked a few months back which systems were going to be fleet hotspots, so that they could allocate their 0.0 resources better.
It was then replied by several PA/F-E/NSBI members that H-PA, D7, MSH and all the systems between it were going to be the place. There have been 4 major battles in that area now and every single one of then lagged out.
Good stuff, ccp.
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.12 18:25:00 -
[193]
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 18:26:02
Originally by: Smithers
Originally by: NAFnist
Edited by: NAFnist on 12/11/2005 13:19:19
Originally by: LoxyRider
Originally by: Zmeu
Originally by: LoxyRider
Tbh forget ccp. Jumping 210 into 90 is the most ******* retarded thing ever. Thank god we arnt PA and didnt stick our drones out lol.
Yes lag sucks but what do you ******* expect honestly.
jeez whats wrong with you????
you come invade our space.. and still whine about noumbers?
if you dont like it.. go away.. leave us alone!
I understand completly why you blob up to such numbers, i understand we will be outnumbered most of the time, i understand that your defending your space and we are the attacks.
Doesnt mean your not retards when u blob up to over 200. Whatever improvements ccp make that would never have worked.
hypocrit
That was us just moving into curse, not looking for a fight just a clear path
And what makes you think that PA/F-E intended to fight you? They were almost certainly more concerned with maintaining control than thinking they would get an engagement.
As you said ...
Quote:
Really, think before you reply
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.12 18:35:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Baun
And what makes you think that PA/F-E intended to fight you? They were almost certainly more concerned with maintaining control than thinking they would get an engagement.
Erm, hold on Baun - if they didn't want to fight, why jump in? Why not just encircle h-pa and prevent 5 from going anywhere, that's containment, I assume that's what you mean?
And what you're saying goes entirely against what both pa AND f-e have said, apparently they DO want to fight.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Termy
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Posted - 2005.11.12 18:36:00 -
[195]
Heh...
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Not Blue = Shoot It
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.11.12 18:56:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Termy
Heh...
I bet PA fc's were targetcalling.
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.12 19:22:00 -
[197]
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 19:25:21
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 19:22:23
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Baun
And what makes you think that PA/F-E intended to fight you? They were almost certainly more concerned with maintaining control than thinking they would get an engagement.
Erm, hold on Baun - if they didn't want to fight, why jump in? Why not just encircle h-pa and prevent 5 from going anywhere, that's containment, I assume that's what you mean?
And what you're saying goes entirely against what both pa AND f-e have said, apparently they DO want to fight.
I would agree with you, but if you WANTED an engagement would you jump into 80 pilots with 200? If you do this you are guaranteed that one of the following things will happen:
1. The whole thing will lag out and no fight will be had
2. The 80 man force will simply hit their POS or SS
3. The 80 man fleet will stay for a second, take a few losses and then do #2
I can understand the notion behind showing alot of force and jumping into the system wto show that they are in control. I can't see them doing this and expecting to get any sort of fight out of it. Hence, I can only conclude that they wanted to display dominance and were hoping to stumble into a few ganks along the way.
Edit:
As far as containment goes, I think that times have shown that thats a silly defensive notion. No one is going to maintain a 200man fleet spread out of the gates to that system for very long and hope to crush your morale like that. You would easily break out either the next day or once they have to consolidate and choose 1 of the exit gates.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.11.12 19:25:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Termy
Heh...
wth termy, did you have a lag resistant suit on or something?
Thorax FTW!
Hi, I am your friendly neighbourhood spy! |
Yzman Shhan
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Posted - 2005.11.12 19:52:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Aman Sul
Edited by: Aman Sul on 12/11/2005 01:41:43
Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 12/11/2005 01:34:05
Screenshot: The combined FE/NBSI/PA fleet just before they jumped in.
They OnlY had 202 to our 83 we would have slaughterd them!!!
BTW leave Thol alone he is just frustrated like the rest of us at EVE ATM
You have a lot less ppl in system AND A COVERT WATCHING US and yet you do not get out.. I wonder if you just wanted us to jump in and get the lag on your side sniping out our solo pilots and then come crying victory in the forums... Remember things can always be seen from the other side as well... And why would we bring a smaller fleet if we can bring a bigger? That's just plain stupid.. Oh we could overwhelm them, but let's not. Instead let's match their numbers and let them kill us too so the fight is more fair, lol Like .5. ever gives fair fights (stabs 4tw!).
Enuff smack, let's just fight ingame, not on the forums, k?
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.11.12 20:21:00 -
[200]
Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 12/11/2005 20:22:04
Originally by: Yzman Shhan
You have a lot less ppl in system AND A COVERT WATCHING US and yet you do not get out.. I wonder if you just wanted us to jump in and get the lag on your side sniping out our solo pilots and then come crying victory in the forums...
It didn't atall occured to you that we just want a fight? Coz you realise, even if half your fleet had lagged out and none of ours, you'd still outnumber us by 25%? If we wanted to use the lag to our advantage we'd have pulled a PA and dropped all our drones.
Originally by: Yzman Shhan
And why would we bring a smaller fleet if we can bring a bigger? That's just plain stupid.. Oh we could overwhelm them, but let's not. Instead let's match their numbers and let them kill us too so the fight is more fair, lol Like .5. ever gives fair fights (stabs 4tw!).
Besides the fact that stabs can be used by both sides and these don't affect wether a fight is 'fair' or not, you essentially admit here that we are better then you because if we had equal numbers we would beat you. Bolded that particular sentence.
And if you don't want smack and want to fight ingame, might wanna start with your own posts eh?
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.11.12 20:28:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
Originally by: Dreez
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
atleats we killed an ishkur
If you call trading an Arma+Domi for an Ishkur a good fight,
then i¦d say you need to re-evaluate the situation.
3 of the armas guns pays for the Ishkur .
You seem to evaluate a good fight on basis that you win it, your telling me you've never been in a fight you lost that you enjoyed.
I would fo enjoyed it more if it wasnt for the damned tracking disruptors on me.
Proud Member of the NUBSIES Alliance.
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Arctic Angel
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Posted - 2005.11.12 22:12:00 -
[202]
Edited by: Arctic Angel on 12/11/2005 22:12:25
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 12/11/2005 20:22:04
It didn't atall occured to you that we just want a fight? Coz you realise, even if half your fleet had lagged out and none of ours, you'd still outnumber us by 25%? If we wanted to use the lag to our advantage we'd have pulled a PA and dropped all our drones.
Of course, you might want to buy a +3 sarcasm implant :) And besides, I replied to an earlier post by stan, so keep it in the context, could you?
Originally by: Elve Sorrow
Originally by: Yzman Shhan
And why would we bring a smaller fleet if we can bring a bigger? That's just plain stupid.. Oh we could overwhelm them, but let's not. Instead let's match their numbers and let them kill us too so the fight is more fair, lol Like .5. ever gives fair fights (stabs 4tw!).
Besides the fact that stabs can be used by both sides and these don't affect wether a fight is 'fair' or not, you essentially admit here that we are better then you because if we had equal numbers we would beat you. Bolded that particular sentence.
And if you don't want smack and want to fight ingame, might wanna start with your own posts eh?
As said, was not a reply to something you said.. Conveniently cut out the original quote Let's both hope the next fight doesn't leave anything to be decided by lag, OK?
Edit: stupid alt..
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Elve Sorrow
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Posted - 2005.11.12 22:26:00 -
[203]
That's the downside of these public forums eh?
Everyone is free to point it out if you're making yourself look like a fool.
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zarc
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Posted - 2005.11.12 22:42:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Tholarim
Untill then, keep living the dream.
Keep crying the Reality
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.12 22:44:00 -
[205]
Originally by: zarc
Originally by: Tholarim
Untill then, keep living the dream.
Keep crying the Reality
Eh? thats crap.
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.11.13 04:03:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Drakos
Silvitni atleast you got to see us warp out... i could not even see OURSELFS, 90% of the five gang lost their screen when you jumped in. we could not see anything... our covert ops jumped after you and he kept reporting on TS who was getting killed.
cool huh?
its the first time i saw this happen... screen just dissapear all you see is space lol
only 5% of us were able to shoot at something. the rest just died or crashed lol
weeeeee BATTLEFIELD 2 yeah its on.
Judging from TS, we had about the same proportion... Nothing like hearing the same primary called out for five minutes.
T2 Destroyers: a proposal
Requested Changes: An alphabet's worth |
NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.13 04:46:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Baun
And what makes you think that PA/F-E intended to fight you? They were almost certainly more concerned with maintaining control than thinking they would get an engagement.
Erm, hold on Baun - if they didn't want to fight, why jump in? Why not just encircle h-pa and prevent 5 from going anywhere, that's containment, I assume that's what you mean?
And what you're saying goes entirely against what both pa AND f-e have said, apparently they DO want to fight.
Im not gonna dwell too much in this than I already have, but it sure sounded like a couple of frustrated 5's yelling 'u haxors servers to gank us by using a 200 man blob' but when 5 blobed to 200 its a 'show of force'. I saw that as very uncalled for.
Most ppl here do however see the problem, and it not being our fault or intention.
tbh we should blob up like this more, so we can get CCPs eyes open to a problem that has gotten worse and worse with time.
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2005.11.13 04:59:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Termy
Heh...
lol, what's that? Start from the top and work your way down until the whole fleet is dead?
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Jaqs
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Posted - 2005.11.13 05:08:00 -
[209]
Shut the hell up fight in game 5 untrain forum whoring lvl 5 and 5 gettin same size fleet as thiers of some buddys of thiers or bigger to lag out crap to hell so bleh.
Too bad didnt see a 400 player enemys killin each other err seein who can move fire first lmao. or more actually how many nodes servers woulda been permently blown up.
and yeah what balaz said. CCP get htat uber equipment up and going asap lmao. hell well fight the gm's dev's uber jove stuff and other ships whatnot to test it out when it gets all up and going haha.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.13 05:18:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Termy
Heh...
I bet PA fc's were targetcalling.
Why? Cause we went alphabetical? We realized you couldnt shoot back so which targets we called didnt seem to matter. |
pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.13 05:35:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Baun
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 19:41:24
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Baun
And what makes you think that PA/F-E intended to fight you? They were almost certainly more concerned with maintaining control than thinking they would get an engagement.
Erm, hold on Baun - if they didn't want to fight, why jump in? Why not just encircle h-pa and prevent 5 from going anywhere, that's containment, I assume that's what you mean?
And what you're saying goes entirely against what both pa AND f-e have said, apparently they DO want to fight.
I would agree with you, given what F-E has said, but if you WANTED an engagement would you jump into 80 pilots with 200? If you do this you are guaranteed that one of the following things will happen:
1. The whole thing will lag out and no fight will be had
2. The 80 man force will simply hit their POS or SS
3. The 80 man fleet will stay for a second, take a few losses and then do #2.
I can understand the notion behind showing alot of force and jumping into the system to show that they are in control. I can't see them doing this and expecting to get any sort of fight out of it. Hence, I can only conclude that they wanted to display dominance and were hoping to stumble into a few ganks along the way.
gates.
Actually we got wind of an 80man bob fleet heading our way. If you add that to the5's 80man blob thats 160pilots we were expecting. So us forming a 200pilot fleet is not really that unreasonable. The bob fleet ended taking a pit stop in deklein. Our pilots were got bored so we said screw it, lets play with the5. Anything that ****es off the the5 makes us happy.
Next time we drop drones! |
Baun
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Posted - 2005.11.13 06:18:00 -
[212]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Baun
Edited by: Baun on 12/11/2005 19:41:24
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Baun
And what makes you think that PA/F-E intended to fight you? They were almost certainly more concerned with maintaining control than thinking they would get an engagement.
Erm, hold on Baun - if they didn't want to fight, why jump in? Why not just encircle h-pa and prevent 5 from going anywhere, that's containment, I assume that's what you mean?
And what you're saying goes entirely against what both pa AND f-e have said, apparently they DO want to fight.
I would agree with you, given what F-E has said, but if you WANTED an engagement would you jump into 80 pilots with 200? If you do this you are guaranteed that one of the following things will happen:
1. The whole thing will lag out and no fight will be had
2. The 80 man force will simply hit their POS or SS
3. The 80 man fleet will stay for a second, take a few losses and then do #2.
I can understand the notion behind showing alot of force and jumping into the system to show that they are in control. I can't see them doing this and expecting to get any sort of fight out of it. Hence, I can only conclude that they wanted to display dominance and were hoping to stumble into a few ganks along the way.
gates.
Actually we got wind of an 80man bob fleet heading our way. If you add that to the5's 80man blob thats 160pilots we were expecting. So us forming a 200pilot fleet is not really that unreasonable. The bob fleet ended taking a pit stop in deklein. Our pilots were got bored so we said screw it, lets play with the5. Anything that ****es off the the5 makes us happy.
Next time we drop drones!
I am not saying that gathering a 200man fleet is unreasonable. Rather, when you jumped in, given that you certainly had scouted the system (and ought to have know where BoB was at the time) you weren't jumping in in order to get a fight out of it, which is fine.
Whether your purpose was to get yourself between BoB and 5, or simply to show that you, not they, were in control it seems that you accomplished it.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.11.13 06:44:00 -
[213]
bob were a long way off from what i was told by the bob fc's and the map to match.
doesnt matter tbh now FE killed some ships and thats about it. we were willing to fight every single ship they had at the gate but we didnt get to put on a show for your guys. would have been one hell of a show.
anyways im sure we can leave this incident behind us now. and move on and hope we can have some fun fights again,
cya on the field pa/nbsi/fe
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
ALTS FTL |
Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.11.13 06:53:00 -
[214]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
bob were a long way off from what i was told by the bob fc's and the map to match.
doesnt matter tbh now FE killed some ships and thats about it. we were willing to fight every single ship they had at the gate but we didnt get to put on a show for your guys. would have been one hell of a show.
anyways im sure we can leave this incident behind us now. and move on and hope we can have some fun fights again,
cya on the field pa/nbsi/fe
Much <3 for you Mister.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.13 07:02:00 -
[215]
Too bad it didnt all go well.. might have been fight of the year if the server had held up. Hard to believe 3/4 of a year ago FOE vs Xetic worked fine with 100 v 100s now its all gone to crap
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2005.11.13 07:10:00 -
[216]
Originally by: SengH
Too bad it didnt all go well.. might have been fight of the year if the server had held up. Hard to believe 3/4 of a year ago FOE vs Xetic worked fine with 100 v 100s now its all gone to crap
quoted for the truth
we can only hope for RMR
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Dillon Arklight
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Posted - 2005.11.13 08:29:00 -
[217]
Has there deen a definitive CCP response to the whole "lag" problem? An action plan or whatever
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.11.13 08:38:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Dillon Arklight
Has there deen a definitive CCP response to the whole "lag" problem? An action plan or whatever
I think their action plan is "Bladeservers"
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Rexthor Hammerfists2
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Posted - 2005.11.13 10:12:00 -
[219]
i lvoe the commercials bout the blades :)
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Zigadenus
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Posted - 2005.11.13 10:18:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Dillon Arklight
Has there deen a definitive CCP response to the whole "lag" problem? An action plan or whatever
I think their action plan is "Bladeservers"
I dunno. I think "Action Plan" = deliver faction ships to anyone that can recruit a noob that doesn't care about 0.0 lag to make up for the loss of accounts fed up with no viable fleet combat.
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Kyle > Why do you have to ask me all these complicated questions?
Zerodragon > Dude, IÆm trying to save your setup from complete suckage. |
ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.11.13 10:32:00 -
[221]
Originally by: SengH
Too bad it didnt all go well.. might have been fight of the year if the server had held up. Hard to believe 3/4 of a year ago FOE vs Xetic worked fine with 100 v 100s now its all gone to crap
^_^ i remember commanding that .. miss those times :(
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful |
Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.11.13 10:40:00 -
[222]
I remember having 3 big fleet battles in one night with FoE, including a 30 minute slugfest in Obe with acceptable frame rate. I guess those days are long gone...
(\_/)
(O.o)
(> <) "That's no ordinary rabbit!...that's the most foul, cruel and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on" |
SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.13 10:48:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Gabriel Karade
I remember having 3 big fleet battles in one night with FoE, including a 30 minute slugfest in Obe with acceptable frame rate. I guess those days are long gone...
That was my first experience pvping. My character was only 2 months old at that time and.. in the midst of the chaos in obe.. someone traded me a fully fitted vigil and told me to stick an X in alliance. My CEO told me to download TS and gave me the login/pass info. Flew with ballistic void in his frig squad for those fights and it was CRAZY. Flying thru the enemey fleet scrambling then getting locked by a AF and burning out.... getting emergency commands to report to planets... it was insanely fun lol. If all other new players could have a similar experience 2 mths into EVE. We'd have loads of people hauling ass out to 0.0.
Too bad those days are gone now it seems
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.11.13 10:59:00 -
[224]
at least until RMR things are patchy - i wonder if that hotfix has been applied yet if SISI is still testing the TQ build then no if it isnt then we have a hotfix on TQ that is meant ot be hleping
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Nimbu
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Posted - 2005.11.13 12:29:00 -
[225]
Originally by: SengH
That was my first experience pvping. My character was only 2 months old at that time and.. in the midst of the chaos in obe.. someone traded me a fully fitted vigil and told me to stick an X in alliance. My CEO told me to download TS and gave me the login/pass info. Flew with ballistic void in his frig squad for those fights and it was CRAZY. Flying thru the enemey fleet scrambling then getting locked by a AF and burning out.... getting emergency commands to report to planets... it was insanely fun lol. If all other new players could have a similar experience 2 mths into EVE. We'd have loads of people hauling ass out to 0.0.
Too bad those days are gone now it seems
Yes those were great days, and BV is an awesome Fc, shame he doesnt like the job too much, at least thats the impression I used to get.....
99% of the above is said in RP. The Other 1% is personal, and should be taken that way. :P
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.11.13 12:36:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Termy
Heh...
Players names starting with "A" are trully cursed.
pick a name like zqwexutqwer and live forever.
d solo.
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nemtrex
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Posted - 2005.11.13 13:43:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Dillon Arklight
Has there deen a definitive CCP response to the whole "lag" problem? An action plan or whatever
It's not laggy according to them.
300 people got crappy computers/crappy ISP..
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.11.13 15:26:00 -
[228]
The GMs responses probably will be:
"We cannot see any abnormal behaviour in this system".
Their definition of abnormal things have to go way beyond X-Files even...
I might have ATUKO in my tag, but i have OC in my DNA
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shakaZ XIV
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Posted - 2005.11.13 17:48:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Dreez
The GMs responses probably will be:
"We cannot see any abnormal behaviour in this system".
And that's exactly the response I just got. Not impressed at all tbh.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:08:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Baun
Whether your purpose was to get yourself between BoB and 5, or simply to show that you, not they, were in control it seems that you accomplished it.
Baun, BoB were miles away at the time, we purposely kept away from the h-pa constellation because of lag and picked off those foolish enough to just "go home", having found BKG quite empty.
All they "showed" was that they do actually know how to jump through a gate. I hope they remember that the next time we're around and they outnumber us, because the number of times they haven't jumped in on us, when we've been outnumbered (2:1, just as in this case) I don't even need fingers to count on.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:33:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Baun
I hope they remember that the next time we're around and they outnumber us, because the number of times they haven't jumped in on us, when we've been outnumbered (2:1, just as in this case) I don't even need fingers to count on.
I hear crap like this all the time, but it doesnt make any sense. I've been in the north along time and have never witnessed this happening. Why the hell wouldnt we jump into you if we outnumber you 2:1. When trying to lie and brag please make a bit of sense ffs. |
Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:37:00 -
[232]
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: Termy
Heh...
Players names starting with "A" are trully cursed.
pick a name like zqwexutqwer and live forever.
d solo.
Word Feel my pain
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:37:00 -
[233]
Pers, I actually flew with you guys, when I was tps, when you refused to jump in when we outnumbered enemy. That was the last time I ever flew with you, it was pathetic.
I've been in BoB fleets, and you've just sat, with greater numbers, on the other side of a gate.
I've watched EVOL go up north, earlier this year, sit outnumbered 2:1 and you (PA, of which you were a member) will NOT jump in unless you have OVERWHELMING numbers, as has been proven in this event.
So, before calling for proof, try to recall your own actions.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:49:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Pers, I actually flew with you guys, when I was tps, when you refused to jump in when we outnumbered enemy. That was the last time I ever flew with you, it was pathetic.
I've been in BoB fleets, and you've just sat, with greater numbers, on the other side of a gate.
I've watched EVOL go up north, earlier this year, sit outnumbered 2:1 and you (PA, of which you were a member) will NOT jump in unless you have OVERWHELMING numbers, as has been proven in this event.
So, before calling for proof, try to recall your own actions.
We sux, you know and also we know, but then again why you insist in coming to us, if we are so pathetic and helpless? Maybe you have some feeling back inside you, that you need to prove your uberness again and again?
Do it then, because it is always coming to the same conclussions: north sux, Bob (and .5. used to, but they are getting better) are uber, best, most uber... props, now go back(or should i say come out of) to 5-6 and mine your brains out (or maybe some complex(with all chars :/)).
Be back in a year or so :/ |
pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:51:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Pers, I actually flew with you guys, when I was tps, when you refused to jump in when we outnumbered enemy. That was the last time I ever flew with you, it was pathetic.
I've been in BoB fleets, and you've just sat, with greater numbers, on the other side of a gate.
I've watched EVOL go up north, earlier this year, sit outnumbered 2:1 and you (PA, of which you were a member) will NOT jump in unless you have OVERWHELMING numbers, as has been proven in this event.
So, before calling for proof, try to recall your own actions.
Lol. I have never flown with you. I dont recall ever flying with tps.
The only occasion i recall not jumping into bob when we had 'greater' numbers is when we were in a frig fleet and you had 10bs's 100km on the other side of the gate with bubbles up. And as i recall you guys wouldnt jump into us either. In fact rarely will you guys jump into anything. You sit above a gate sniping waiting for your opponent to jump into you. When they dont you guys come on the forums and cry about it. So I ask why would anyone jump into a situation when they know all of their battleships will be scrambled and all of your bs's can simply warp out if they get called a target? |
SugarDaddy
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:54:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Dillon Arklight
Has there deen a definitive CCP response to the whole "lag" problem? An action plan or whatever
To my petition they said "THERE WAS NO LAG YOU FU**ING LYER" with nice words.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:56:00 -
[237]
Edited by: Kcel Chim on 13/11/2005 18:58:46
Originally by: pershphanie
So I ask why would anyone jump into a situation when they know all of their battleships will be scrambled and all of your bs's can simply warp out if they get called a target?
For us it usually starts with stan talking about his balls and how big they are. Then somene says we will all die and others will say they are bored anyways. Then usually stan starts to sing and we jump in while sending a last bunch of prayers out.
Amazing feeling if you actually pwn and survive such a moment ;)
edit: when stan isnt around usually thol talks about stans balls and noone sings and thol says he will shoot anyone who doesnt wanna jump in. Rather depressive but i still wonder why he knows the size of stans balls.
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Dreez
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Posted - 2005.11.13 19:14:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Rather depressive but i still wonder why he knows the size of stans balls.
Ignorance is bliss .
GM Mulder: Ships beeing abducted by aliens is a perfectly
normal thing, there is nothing abnormal about it.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.13 19:16:00 -
[239]
Originally by: pershphanie
In fact rarely will you guys jump into anything. You sit above a gate sniping waiting for your opponent to jump into you.
And there, in 2 sentences, goes any credibility you might have.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2005.11.13 19:21:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Angelus X
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: Termy
Heh...
Players names starting with "A" are trully cursed.
pick a name like zqwexutqwer and live forever.
d solo.
Word Feel my pain
yep :\
why hasnt anyone told me when i created this char. :\
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.11.13 20:35:00 -
[241]
yeah pick names middle of alphabet and very hard to pronounce for long life in fleet battles.
Proud Member of the NUBSIES Alliance.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.13 20:43:00 -
[242]
If I ever pick anohter character, I'll choose from the following names:
Down
Warping Out
Not there
Looking funny
Down is my personal favourite tho.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.11.13 20:44:00 -
[243]
lol omg diana that is a great idea lol, if I only we could change names of our players.
Proud Member of the NUBSIES Alliance.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.11.13 20:45:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Dianabolic
If I ever pick anohter character, I'll choose from the following names:
Down
Warping Out
Not there
Looking funny
Down is my personal favourite tho.
lmfao
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.13 21:20:00 -
[245]
Edited by: SengH on 13/11/2005 21:21:05
Originally by: Edoo
Originally by: Dianabolic
If I ever pick anohter character, I'll choose from the following names:
Down
Warping Out
Not there
Looking funny
Down is my personal favourite tho.
lmfao
I wonder if safespot is already taken....
Edit: Safespot Everyone would be even better.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.13 21:42:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Dianabolic
If I ever pick anohter character, I'll choose from the following names:
Down
Warping Out
Not there
Looking funny
Down is my personal favourite tho.
I'd go with 'Locking Locking'.
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Harry Canyon
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Posted - 2005.11.13 21:45:00 -
[247]
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson -- society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
This is a Ben Franklin quote..not Thomas Jefferson
Harry Canyon
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.11.13 21:59:00 -
[248]
If I ever command a fleetbattle against NBSI be certain RUNYOUFOOLS, that you will live
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.13 22:06:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Harry Canyon
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson -- society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
This is a Ben Franklin quote..not Thomas Jefferson
Actually, Benjamin Franklin said this:
Quote:
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.
Rest assured, I am quoting accurately
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.13 22:07:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: pershphanie
In fact rarely will you guys jump into anything. You sit above a gate sniping waiting for your opponent to jump into you.
And there, in 2 sentences, goes any credibility you might have.
please, expain. Last time I encountered a bob fleet this is exactly what happend. This is exactly what you do. Nothing wrong with it, its a good tactic. But if you do that all the time you lose your right to complain about why ppl dont jump into you. |
Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.13 22:09:00 -
[251]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: pershphanie
In fact rarely will you guys jump into anything. You sit above a gate sniping waiting for your opponent to jump into you.
And there, in 2 sentences, goes any credibility you might have.
please, expain. Last time I encountered a bob fleet this is exactly what happend. This is exactly what you do. Nothing wrong with it, its a good tactic. But if you do that all the time you lose your right to complain about why ppl dont jump into you.
Except it isn't what we do, Pers. If we have numbers we ALWAYS jump in.
Even if we're OUTNUMBERED we often jump in.
Your assertion that we "never, or rarely" jump in is, at best, incorrect, at worst, a lie.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.11.14 00:00:00 -
[252]
Do we really have to do this 'we always jump outnumbered' - 'no you don't' - 'We don't have drone out' - 'Yes you do' thing EVERY SINGLE thread about lagged out fleetfights?
We all know BoB and .5. are t3h ub3r, never deploy drones, always fight in equal or less numbers and always jump in.
Can we get over this now? Thanks.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.11.14 00:05:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
...always fight in equal or less numbers and always jump in.
Sometimes we have the numbers advantage (happened this weekend as it goes, credit to CELES and co for sticking around), sometimes not.
The point being we wouldn't wait for twice the numbers, or purposely lag out our opponent.
As for the "teh ub4r" rubbish, shayla, this isn't something that will go away over night, perhaps if your lot stopped caring about losing they'd win more AND have more fun?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.11.14 00:14:00 -
[254]
having fun and caring squat about your ship takes you to the top in this game
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
ALTS FTL |
Kerosene
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Posted - 2005.11.14 01:44:00 -
[255]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
having fun and caring squat about your ship takes you to the top in this game
I'd say having fun and caring squat about the other guy's ship takes you to the top
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Kodell
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Posted - 2005.11.14 02:20:00 -
[256]
Can i ask if CCP has released an official statement on this debarkal yet?
As a new player to this game i'm very shocked with there responce time on this, i could maybe understand it if EvE was a "Free to Play".
But we are talking about over 280 "PAYING" players that have had a major bug/flaw hit them and totaly ruin there days game play, not to mention set backs in ships/eqipment.
If i was CCP i would be very worried about customers leaving over this, If BIG alliance fleet battles are not supported by the current hardware...then whats the point of having alliance fleets?
Kinda also make me wonder what my $45US a months going on.
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Taj Zela
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Posted - 2005.11.14 02:34:00 -
[257]
I've got one thing to say to everybody involved in this unfortunate event...
OUR SERVER PERFORMANCE LOGS SHOW NO RECORDS OF ABNORMAL OPERATION DURING THE TIME OF YOUR LOSS. PLEASE RESPOND NOTING THAT YOUR ISSUE HAS BEEN ANSWERED & RESOLVED, SO THAT IT MAY BE CHANGED TO STATUS "CLOSED", AND WE CAN HAPPILY ADDRESS MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES.
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Drakos
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Posted - 2005.11.14 03:46:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Taj Zela
I've got one thing to say to everybody involved in this unfortunate event...
OUR SERVER PERFORMANCE LOGS SHOW NO RECORDS OF ABNORMAL OPERATION DURING THE TIME OF YOUR LOSS. PLEASE RESPOND NOTING THAT YOUR ISSUE HAS BEEN ANSWERED & RESOLVED, SO THAT IT MAY BE CHANGED TO STATUS "CLOSED", AND WE CAN HAPPILY ADDRESS MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES.
your forgeting the last part, wich is always the same too.
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We are sorry for this, but we do hope, that you will swiftly recover from your loss, and be back on track as soon as possible.
If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again. We'll do all we can to help.
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and yeah apparently no ships will be reimbursed, everyone just had ISP problems at the same time in h-pa ops bad luck
GG CCP
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Monkey Time
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Posted - 2005.11.14 08:29:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Kodell
Can i ask if CCP has released an official statement on this debarkal yet?
As a new player to this game i'm very shocked with there responce time on this, i could maybe understand it if EvE was a "Free to Play".
But we are talking about over 280 "PAYING" players that have had a major bug/flaw hit them and totaly ruin there days game play, not to mention set backs in ships/eqipment.
If i was CCP i would be very worried about customers leaving over this, If BIG alliance fleet battles are not supported by the current hardware...then whats the point of having alliance fleets?
Kinda also make me wonder what my $45US a months going on.
the majority of the responses, from the gm's, have stated that there is nothing wrong with the servers and that it must be our computers that are at fault.
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Ishana
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Posted - 2005.11.14 08:42:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Monkey Time
Originally by: Kodell
Can i ask if CCP has released an official statement on this debarkal yet?
As a new player to this game i'm very shocked with there responce time on this, i could maybe understand it if EvE was a "Free to Play".
But we are talking about over 280 "PAYING" players that have had a major bug/flaw hit them and totaly ruin there days game play, not to mention set backs in ships/eqipment.
If i was CCP i would be very worried about customers leaving over this, If BIG alliance fleet battles are not supported by the current hardware...then whats the point of having alliance fleets?
Kinda also make me wonder what my $45US a months going on.
the majority of the responses, from the gm's, have stated that there is nothing wrong with the servers and that it must be our computers that are at fault.
They always do the same copy/paste responce in these situations. I would be highly ****ed off if they did reimbursed ships THIS time. It happend before, it WILL happen again. (probably sooner than later.) People will lose ships, people will petition, and people wil get the same responce every time. (at least I hope so, otherwise allot of people will get ****ed off even more.)
Yes it sucks you can't have a massive fleet battle, especially with all the wars going on, but that's just the way things are now. Let's just hope things get better in time...
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BOldMan
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:28:00 -
[261]
Edited by: BOldMan on 14/11/2005 09:29:11
Originally by: Dianabolic
If I ever pick anohter character, I'll choose from the following names:
Down
Warping Out
Not there
Looking funny
Down is my personal favourite tho.
I think Shoting Me' is my favorite choice for next name char.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.14 09:42:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Ishana
Originally by: Monkey Time
Originally by: Kodell
Can i ask if CCP has released an official statement on this debarkal yet?
As a new player to this game i'm very shocked with there responce time on this, i could maybe understand it if EvE was a "Free to Play".
But we are talking about over 280 "PAYING" players that have had a major bug/flaw hit them and totaly ruin there days game play, not to mention set backs in ships/eqipment.
If i was CCP i would be very worried about customers leaving over this, If BIG alliance fleet battles are not supported by the current hardware...then whats the point of having alliance fleets?
Kinda also make me wonder what my $45US a months going on.
the majority of the responses, from the gm's, have stated that there is nothing wrong with the servers and that it must be our computers that are at fault.
They always do the same copy/paste responce in these situations. I would be highly ****ed off if they did reimbursed ships THIS time. It happend before, it WILL happen again. (probably sooner than later.) People will lose ships, people will petition, and people wil get the same responce every time. (at least I hope so, otherwise allot of people will get ****ed off even more.)
Yes it sucks you can't have a massive fleet battle, especially with all the wars going on, but that's just the way things are now. Let's just hope things get better in time...
The problem is it doesnt happen the same for everyone... ie that PA guy who got reimbursed his diemos for setting off a smartie in empire by accident... (boy did the mods come down quick on that one)
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Ishana
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Posted - 2005.11.14 11:45:00 -
[263]
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Ishana
Originally by: Monkey Time
Originally by: Kodell
Can i ask if CCP has released an official statement on this debarkal yet?
As a new player to this game i'm very shocked with there responce time on this, i could maybe understand it if EvE was a "Free to Play".
But we are talking about over 280 "PAYING" players that have had a major bug/flaw hit them and totaly ruin there days game play, not to mention set backs in ships/eqipment.
If i was CCP i would be very worried about customers leaving over this, If BIG alliance fleet battles are not supported by the current hardware...then whats the point of having alliance fleets?
Kinda also make me wonder what my $45US a months going on.
the majority of the responses, from the gm's, have stated that there is nothing wrong with the servers and that it must be our computers that are at fault.
They always do the same copy/paste responce in these situations. I would be highly ****ed off if they did reimbursed ships THIS time. It happend before, it WILL happen again. (probably sooner than later.) People will lose ships, people will petition, and people wil get the same responce every time. (at least I hope so, otherwise allot of people will get ****ed off even more.)
Yes it sucks you can't have a massive fleet battle, especially with all the wars going on, but that's just the way things are now. Let's just hope things get better in time...
The problem is it doesnt happen the same for everyone... ie that PA guy who got reimbursed his diemos for setting off a smartie in empire by accident... (boy did the mods come down quick on that one)
Not really related to the large fleet/lagfest i was refering to, now is it...
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.14 12:15:00 -
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5 knew exactly what we had on the other side, but my guess is that they kept their camp cause they thought they could benefit from the lag that would come.
They didnt, and we got a few kills. But thats it. Not really that much to debate, and certainly not worthy of a 9 page thread on this forum.
And why do we have BoB smacktalking here? Its not like 5 needs help with that
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Endeva
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Posted - 2005.11.14 13:48:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
5 knew exactly what we had on the other side, but my guess is that they kept their camp cause they thought they could benefit from the lag that would come.
They didnt, and we got a few kills. But thats it. Not really that much to debate, and certainly not worthy of a 9 page thread on this forum.
And why do we have BoB smacktalking here? Its not like 5 needs help with that
U're a noob and people like you shouldn't be allowed to post on the forums. We don't fear your 200 carebears and if we wanted lag we would have put our drones out like your alliance did on many many occasions even if u were outnumbering us by far, so please stfu
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anister
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Posted - 2005.11.14 13:50:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
5 knew exactly what we had on the other side, but my guess is that they kept their camp cause they thought they could benefit from the lag that would come.
No, we didn't think we could try and benefit from anything, all we wanted was to fight, and i could see how you would think our ~90 ships would be the cause of the lag rather than your ~200 ships, makes perfect sense. To be 100% honest if i had known it would have lagged that bad i would have just docked and not bothered, then again you lot would have all been chect beating on these forums about how we ran from you....
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
They didnt, and we got a few kills. But thats it. Not really that much to debate, and certainly not worthy of a 9 page thread on this forum.
Puhlease, these 9 pages are not about you, your alliance or anybody in particular, it's about the lag and the servers inability to do what it says on the tin. for a "Massivley multiplayer game" it seems that a massive amount of numbers brings the game to it's knee's for those involved.
You cannot deny that the lag screwed the evening up for a lot of people, on both sides, so instead of blaming us for what you think is an intention cause of this be a little constructive about it please.
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Citizen X
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Posted - 2005.11.14 13:52:00 -
[267]
Originally by: darth solo
Originally by: Termy
Heh...
Players names starting with "A" are trully cursed.
pick a name like zqwexutqwer and live forever.
d solo.
Flying a Scorp and having a name starting with C is bad...
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.14 13:59:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Endeva
U're a noob and people like you shouldn't be allowed to post on the forums.
Very mature. You need to find the fun in life (or atleast in EVE).
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.14 14:13:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Endeva
Edited by: Endeva on 14/11/2005 14:08:43
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Originally by: Endeva
U're a noob and people like you shouldn't be allowed to post on the forums.
Very mature. You need to find the fun in life (or atleast in EVE).
I was simply trying to stay at your level of understanding... and seeing that from my whole post u decided to answer only that part proves my point...
You failed. You made yourself look silly, and no it didnt prove a point. You are just a frustrated person, who resorts to personal flames.
For shame.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.11.14 14:14:00 -
[270]
Quote:
Sometimes we have the numbers advantage (happened this weekend as it goes, credit to CELES and co for sticking around), sometimes not.
Then why bring it up every time? I'm mainly referring to The Five that every time they lose a fight it was either lag, or being heavily outnumbered. It would be unthinkable for them to lose due to their own fault.
And let's be honest, getting outnumbered 2:1 is bound to happen if you park 100 guys in the middle of 3 hostile alliances. So I don't think there's right to complain there.
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The point being we wouldn't wait for twice the numbers, or purposely lag out our opponent.
I find this an insulting statement. NEVER have I heard a FC say 'hey let's deploy drones to lag 'em out' or 'Hey let's get 200 ships and lag em out'. There's .5. in PA space, we want to get rid of it and we have the numbers, so why not take 200 guys? Cos the server can't handle it? Well, sure, but neither can the server handle 80 guys jumping in, so it wouldn't have mattered.
I remember being in GW in this so-called thing Foundation and we got outnumbered 3:1 by -V- ALL DAY LONG. Did we complain on forums? Nope, we admitted defeat and moved on. Obviously after everything .5. has shouted on these forums admitting defeat would be quite embarassing, but at least you keep the honour to yourself instead of making a fool out of yourself with false forum propaganda.
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As for the "teh ub4r" rubbish, shayla, this isn't something that will go away over night, perhaps if your lot stopped caring about losing they'd win more AND have more fun?
Well, first of all, the "th3 ub4r" rubbish is all part of the dumb forum smack that is always connected to any form of military engagement with ATUK or some group that involves ATUK. Look at SA v F-E. Mutual respect all over the place. Fnd vs -V-. Check. No t3h ub4r smacktards. MC vs -V-? Same story. G vs ASCN? You guessed it.
BoB vs IMP - let's not get there.
.5. vs F-E/NBSI/PA - just read 9 our of 20 threads on the frontpage
Can't we just behave as adults?
Also, who says we care about losing? We just want to have fun; it's a game after all. And as soon as this game starts to even remotely look like a real life thing where things actually DO matter, I'm quitting.
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.14 14:40:00 -
[271]
I just fail to see the importance of all this. We did attack, Five did defend, we all got incredible lag and Five got some shiplosses. We, Five and CCP know about this by now, and everything else is just smacktalk.
Close thread and move on (and remember that its only a game and we are supposed to have fun).
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.11.14 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Shyalud on 14/11/2005 14:41:41
The whole outnumbered argument is just pathetic. Personally, I have never died in a 1v1....every time I've been taken it out it's been 2 to 1 at a minimum, ususally 5 or more to 1.
You never hear a gank squad complaining about killing someone, do you? So why complain when it happens to you on a bigger scale?
Fleet battles are all about numbers, I'm afraid...sure, setups and force composition matter a bit, but when it comes down to it....a 20 man fleet isn't going to win against a 40man fleet.
You guys lost this one, if for no other reason then lag...well, you aren't the only ones that happens to guys....everyone has experienced the same. If you don't want to face a larger fleet then yours, get out of our space.
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Endeva
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Posted - 2005.11.14 15:36:00 -
[273]
Originally by: NAFnist
Originally by: Endeva
Edited by: Endeva on 14/11/2005 14:08:43
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Originally by: Endeva
U're a noob and people like you shouldn't be allowed to post on the forums.
Very mature. You need to find the fun in life (or atleast in EVE).
I was simply trying to stay at your level of understanding... and seeing that from my whole post u decided to answer only that part proves my point...
You failed. You made yourself look silly, and no it didnt prove a point. You are just a frustrated person, who resorts to personal flames.
For shame.
U're right, I am frustrated and because i don't mask my bull**** and try to make it look all peachy doesn't mean that my post is any different than Magnus'. His post had the same amount of flame and crap in his post mine did. Stating that we wanted lag in our favor is a part of northern propaganda which makes me very nervous and makes me frustrated like u already noticed. Tbh i don't care what general eve population thinks of me and can't take it anymore... u can all give me your arguments in game and show what u are made of cuz tbh while up here north i've seen just few pilots who justified their smack that is here on forums.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.14 16:20:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
I just fail to see the importance of all this. We did attack, Five did defend, we all got incredible lag and Five got some shiplosses. We, Five and CCP know about this by now, and everything else is just smacktalk.
Close thread and move on (and remember that its only a game and we are supposed to have fun).
i think the fun goes when obvious and well known server issues, starts effecting the player base..
--thoth
[5],
ex-Curse Alliance
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.14 16:22:00 -
[275]
Originally by: NAFnist
You failed. You made yourself look silly, and no it didnt prove a point. You are just a frustrated person, who resorts to personal flames.
For shame.
Against smack eh? you kicked Javer yet?
And to all those flaming [5], just remember that M. corp are part of [5].
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.14 17:22:00 -
[276]
Originally by: LcGhK9
Originally by: NAFnist
You failed. You made yourself look silly, and no it didnt prove a point. You are just a frustrated person, who resorts to personal flames.
For shame.
Against smack eh? you kicked Javer yet?
And to all those flaming [5], just remember that M. corp are part of [5].
lol
I never said i was against smack, its such a big part of these forums. But personal name calling is something Im against.
And yes, I like M. Corp. They rule
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Carth Jared
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Posted - 2005.11.14 18:27:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
I just fail to see the importance of all this. We did attack, Five did defend, we all got incredible lag and Five got some shiplosses. We, Five and CCP know about this by now, and everything else is just smacktalk.
Close thread and move on (and remember that its only a game and we are supposed to have fun).
So you do admit that your previous posts contained smack?
The thing you're apparently slandering us for?
Hypocrit?
Also if your supposed theory of us basing the battle on a lag advantage wouldnt it have worked better if we had had drones out? Start thinking before spouting more bull**** on the forums plz Mangus
ATUK | The 5
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.11.14 20:49:00 -
[278]
Lol all this discussion about smack....kinda reminds me of the "you're a pirate, I'm an anti-pirtae" discussions, accusations and flames of last year.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.11.14 21:02:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Darken Two
Lol all this discussion about smack....kinda reminds me of the "you're a pirate, I'm an anti-pirtae" discussions, accusations and flames of last year.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.11.14 21:09:00 -
[280]
Originally by: pershphanie
Originally by: Darken Two
Lol all this discussion about smack....kinda reminds me of the "you're a pirate, I'm an anti-pirtae" discussions, accusations and flames of last year.
omg. darkens a pirate.
Tried that and I suck at it. I was too much of a nice guy and ended up giving isk to the people I blew up.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Katchin
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Posted - 2005.11.14 21:26:00 -
[281]
dunno what most of you are arguing about, cant be bothered reading through 10 pages of grief.
'Most' of us arent annoyed with anyone other than CCP, the 80 vs 200 would of been great fun to most of us, just a shame this game cant handle what its supposed to.
Even the lack of capability of eve servers would of been OK, just. But the cut and paste customer support thats full of falsehoods has annoyed an awful lot of customers, time to give CCP grief, not each other me thinks.
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.11.14 23:16:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Katchin
dunno what most of you are arguing about, cant be bothered reading through 10 pages of grief.
'Most' of us arent annoyed with anyone other than CCP, the 80 vs 200 would of been great fun to most of us, just a shame this game cant handle what its supposed to.
Even the lack of capability of eve servers would of been OK, just. But the cut and paste customer support thats full of falsehoods has annoyed an awful lot of customers, time to give CCP grief, not each other me thinks.
WORD!
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Jaqs
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Posted - 2005.11.14 23:56:00 -
[283]
YUP
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.11.15 00:25:00 -
[284]
Originally by: Katchin
dunno what most of you are arguing about, cant be bothered reading through 10 pages of grief.
'Most' of us arent annoyed with anyone other than CCP, the 80 vs 200 would of been great fun to most of us, just a shame this game cant handle what its supposed to.
Even the lack of capability of eve servers would of been OK, just. But the cut and paste customer support thats full of falsehoods has annoyed an awful lot of customers, time to give CCP grief, not each other me thinks.
Agreed, while I wasn't there I did have the misfortune of listening to the whole ordeal on TS. Its not the numbers that was the original topic of this thread, it was the lagtastic horrid time that we had.
I really don't think that the majority of us cared about the numbers, it happens and we expected it. This is purly about the inability of the servers to handle such a number in any reasonable fashion. What suprises me, is that with all the hardware upgrades, and software fixes, the lag has seeminly gotten worse in situations such as this.
No one won this fight, though ships were lost. And niether side regardless of who they are, has any right to claim a victory over this one. What could have been a great fight, and an epic battle, was ruined by the servers at the time. A futher slap in the face, came in the forum of a copy and pasted reply to what was perhaps the biggest example of a server failer I have seen thus far.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.15 03:36:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
5 knew exactly what we had on the other side, but my guess is that they kept their camp cause they thought they could benefit from the lag that would come.
They didnt, and we got a few kills. But thats it. Not really that much to debate, and certainly not worthy of a 9 page thread on this forum.
And why do we have BoB smacktalking here? Its not like 5 needs help with that
Lets see here, I did a search and I see 0 killmails for you, either for or against. Too bad for you omber roids don't give them yet or I bet I'd see you're really active.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.15 04:12:00 -
[286]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
5 knew exactly what we had on the other side, but my guess is that they kept their camp cause they thought they could benefit from the lag that would come.
They didnt, and we got a few kills. But thats it. Not really that much to debate, and certainly not worthy of a 9 page thread on this forum.
And why do we have BoB smacktalking here? Its not like 5 needs help with that
Lets see here, I did a search and I see 0 killmails for you, either for or against. Too bad for you omber roids don't give them yet or I bet I'd see you're really active.
The KB might be bugged again.. but Dread has one of his corpses after we jumped his little fleet in 9-2.
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Hampstah
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Posted - 2005.11.15 04:17:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Katchin
dunno what most of you are arguing about, cant be bothered reading through 10 pages of grief.
'Most' of us arent annoyed with anyone other than CCP, the 80 vs 200 would of been great fun to most of us, just a shame this game cant handle what its supposed to.
Even the lack of capability of eve servers would of been OK, just. But the cut and paste customer support thats full of falsehoods has annoyed an awful lot of customers, time to give CCP grief, not each other me thinks.
Agreed, while I wasn't there I did have the misfortune of listening to the whole ordeal on TS. Its not the numbers that was the original topic of this thread, it was the lagtastic horrid time that we had.
I really don't think that the majority of us cared about the numbers, it happens and we expected it. This is purly about the inability of the servers to handle such a number in any reasonable fashion. What suprises me, is that with all the hardware upgrades, and software fixes, the lag has seeminly gotten worse in situations such as this.
No one won this fight, though ships were lost. And niether side regardless of who they are, has any right to claim a victory over this one. What could have been a great fight, and an epic battle, was ruined by the servers at the time. A futher slap in the face, came in the forum of a copy and pasted reply to what was perhaps the biggest example of a server failer I have seen thus far.
Lorth! Wassup man, haven't seen you post in a while. Anyway, I missed it too, but I think everybody needs to unload there T2 smack guns and pressure CCP to find a fix for this. They are pushing us toward large fleets with Dreads, POS, etc but the servers cannot sustain it.
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Beware Rodentz with Gunz
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.15 04:36:00 -
[288]
with RMR live on the test server.. would anyone be interested in a rematch to see if the optimizations make it worth resubscribing?
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gr8razorx
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Posted - 2005.11.15 05:20:00 -
[289]
guys it is really simple. If you actually want ccp to do anything about the lag or change the basis on which they promote their game, just make the big boys of the pc game industry understand what this game is lacking. It lacks proper customer support and proper gameplay if numbers > 20 participating in a battle. I for one have already drafted a nice letter to send to PC Gamer and have over 1000 digital signitures on it. A proper petition so to speak.
This and only this will have an impact on ccp's priorities. Should they get bad karma in a future pc gamer issue, it may actually kickstart there campaign to end the lag and do something about there dreadfull customer service.
As for the customer service well I would not even get into that as they do discriminate to whom they will actually give anything. PVP(no, regardless if it was a server problem as alot may have experienced), Carebear(Who lost a deimos in empire due to smartbomb, rofl got reimbursed. It may or may not have been me :)
Anyhow abysmal service, lack of proper people to investigate claims are just a few of the outlined incidents in my letter. Just though I would let the community know what I have been up to.
I may also cancel my accounts soon due to a mostly unplayable game. Well for what I joined the game for anyhow (Massive pvp engagements are what this game was all about at one time. Now it is just lvl 4 agent missions and ccp trying it's best to get as many subs as possible whilst giving not a damn about the players that have paid for years.
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.15 09:31:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
5 knew exactly what we had on the other side, but my guess is that they kept their camp cause they thought they could benefit from the lag that would come.
They didnt, and we got a few kills. But thats it. Not really that much to debate, and certainly not worthy of a 9 page thread on this forum.
And why do we have BoB smacktalking here? Its not like 5 needs help with that
Lets see here, I did a search and I see 0 killmails for you, either for or against. Too bad for you omber roids don't give them yet or I bet I'd see you're really active.
I dont PvP with this player, try using Magnus Thermopyle instead. I am still a PvP rookie, but 120 involved kills, 30 finals and 10 deaths is pretty ok I think, considered I have only PvPed for 4 weeks.
Btw, I just checked our killboard. What happened in q-cab yesterday? Seems I missed some fun
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.15 09:44:00 -
[291]
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
5 knew exactly what we had on the other side, but my guess is that they kept their camp cause they thought they could benefit from the lag that would come.
They didnt, and we got a few kills. But thats it. Not really that much to debate, and certainly not worthy of a 9 page thread on this forum.
And why do we have BoB smacktalking here? Its not like 5 needs help with that
Lets see here, I did a search and I see 0 killmails for you, either for or against. Too bad for you omber roids don't give them yet or I bet I'd see you're really active.
I dont PvP with this player, try using Magnus Thermopyle instead. I am still a PvP rookie, but 120 involved kills, 30 finals and 10 deaths is pretty ok I think, considered I have only PvPed for 4 weeks.
Btw, I just checked our killboard. What happened in q-cab yesterday? Seems I missed some fun
looking @ our killboard and at yours seems you guys lost 3 BSes to our 1 BS + 1 BC + a bit of support.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.15 09:47:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Darkrydar
Originally by: Mangus Thermopyle
5 knew exactly what we had on the other side, but my guess is that they kept their camp cause they thought they could benefit from the lag that would come.
They didnt, and we got a few kills. But thats it. Not really that much to debate, and certainly not worthy of a 9 page thread on this forum.
And why do we have BoB smacktalking here? Its not like 5 needs help with that
Lets see here, I did a search and I see 0 killmails for you, either for or against. Too bad for you omber roids don't give them yet or I bet I'd see you're really active.
lol, giv it a rest
But just for the record, I also did a search and guess what I found. 2 killmails for you against F-E, virgil and pod. You are teh uber
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:01:00 -
[293]
I hope that wasnt one of my Rifters
just wait till mk2 my riftah of doom is inc then
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
Originally by: CYVOK
ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone.
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:14:00 -
[294]
I remembered, when 5ive blobbed our 13 battleship gang, with 30 bs+ gang, and RAT started to whine in local about numbers, Thol, or Stizum (cant remember who) said :
"We can`t order our people to stay docked, we cant take fun from them, to match your numbers".
So - history repeating, but with 5ive on the other side. Live with it. It is always fun, to win battle, when you are outnumbered.
And yes. CCP = . I remember my last large scale fight (40 vs 90, in Detorid), when only 10% of gang could actually shoot on targets, that i called. 40% - activated only 3 guns, for 2 minutes of fight. 50% - didn`t see enemy at all. In H-PA you`ve got x 2.5 size of ppl. Surprized ?
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:23:00 -
[295]
Edited by: Mangus Thermopyle on 15/11/2005 10:23:46
Originally by: SengH
looking @ our killboard and at yours seems you guys lost 3 BSes to our 1 BS + 1 BC + a bit of support.
Yea, something like that (if you by support mean 5 ceptors and one cruicer).
I dont care if we 'won' or 'lost', I just wished I had been part of the battle. It seems it was a good fight.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:40:00 -
[296]
As shown in this thread several times, Five determines their 'fun factor' by looking at the amount of kills they made minus the amount of losses they had and then multiply that by the amount of pages of smack in the thread that follows it.
It's an odd definition of what fun is, but hey it works for them.
Btw, if you want to do a kills/losses contest I suggest you look further down that very same KB and check the other losses for the day (also check script0rs Geddon if you wish) and keep claiming you did more financial damage. Might be fun =/
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:54:00 -
[297]
Originally by: gr8razorx
guys it is really simple. If you actually want ccp to do anything about the lag or change the basis on which they promote their game, just make the big boys of the pc game industry understand what this game is lacking. It lacks proper customer support and proper gameplay if numbers > 20 participating in a battle. I for one have already drafted a nice letter to send to PC Gamer and have over 1000 digital signitures on it. A proper petition so to speak.
This and only this will have an impact on ccp's priorities. Should they get bad karma in a future pc gamer issue, it may actually kickstart there campaign to end the lag and do something about there dreadfull customer service.
As for the customer service well I would not even get into that as they do discriminate to whom they will actually give anything. PVP(no, regardless if it was a server problem as alot may have experienced), Carebear(Who lost a deimos in empire due to smartbomb, rofl got reimbursed. It may or may not have been me :)
Anyhow abysmal service, lack of proper people to investigate claims are just a few of the outlined incidents in my letter. Just though I would let the community know what I have been up to.
I may also cancel my accounts soon due to a mostly unplayable game. Well for what I joined the game for anyhow (Massive pvp engagements are what this game was all about at one time. Now it is just lvl 4 agent missions and ccp trying it's best to get as many subs as possible whilst giving not a damn about the players that have paid for years.
/signed
i want to play a massive multiplayer game.. not a massive single player game..
I enjoy the smack and the "to and fro" from enemies.. it give me something to do in work :) but in the end.. i rarely even see these massive battle now
i joined a pvp alliance as i want to have the all types of pvp, including fleet combat.. i have 2 dedicated fleet battle characters.. what's the point.. it would be better just to cancel these subs since i cant use them..
--thoth
[5],
ex-Curse Alliance
ex-DSMA |
LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.15 10:56:00 -
[298]
Edited by: LcGhK9 on 15/11/2005 10:57:10
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
As shown in this thread several times, Five determines their 'fun factor' by looking at the amount of kills they made minus the amount of losses they had and then multiply that by the amount of pages of smack in the thread that follows it.
It's an odd definition of what fun is, but hey it works for them.
Btw, if you want to do a kills/losses contest I suggest you look further down that very same KB and check the other losses for the day (also check script0rs Geddon if you wish) and keep claiming you did more financial damage. Might be fun =/
Why do F-E have no losses board? i cant seem to find it.
I tried clicking the reports thingy, but to no avail, where is your loss board?
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Voltron
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Posted - 2005.11.15 11:44:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
As shown in this thread several times, Five determines their 'fun factor' by looking at the amount of kills they made minus the amount of losses they had and then multiply that by the amount of pages of smack in the thread that follows it.
It's an odd definition of what fun is, but hey it works for them.
Btw, if you want to do a kills/losses contest I suggest you look further down that very same KB and check the other losses for the day (also check script0rs Geddon if you wish) and keep claiming you did more financial damage. Might be fun =/
LOL great formula, I love it.
Volt
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OmaNid Vipla
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Posted - 2005.11.15 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: OmaNid Vipla on 15/11/2005 14:09:48
Hmm, some shallow minds in this thread (pointing above me to formula guy). Well, we are use to it I guess. And yes this is an alt, but only because my subscription expired and for that you are unable to post on forum.....goody.
It is so frustrated for not be able to get back ship even when obvious lag happened in H-PA. Automatic responses make you even more frustrated.
I do hope that some other team making game similar as EVE so my bad memories ( will force me to change on to new one ....no matter how worst it might be at beggining.
Making this game suitable mostly for new players (that are doing missions and similar stuff) is just not fair. To cuting down PvP population this way is so unfair, and frustrate me to realised guys that developed this game are probably short sighted kind of ppl. Not thinking on longer terms but on short term (lets get what we can while we can, who knows what will happen in future...why investing more money when there are newcomers who will enjoy our missions, etc,etc)
Im afraid that today there are more and more of those that dont wanna bother to swet (sweat/sveat?) but want easy money.
Get you a.s.s.e.s on those chair and work ,work ,work untill you solve this technical problems, damn it....AND hold for a while with new stuff you will try to put in game.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.11.15 14:39:00 -
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Why do F-E have no losses board? i cant seem to find it.
I tried clicking the reports thingy, but to no avail, where is your loss board?
It's kinda cumbersome to access I agree, and I doubt it's even anywhere near accurate, just like your own killboard.
Anyway, go to reports, check losses and search for 'The Forsaken Empire' (without quotes) and it will take you to the losses section.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.11.15 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
As shown in this thread several times, Five determines their 'fun factor' by looking at the amount of kills they made minus the amount of losses they had and then multiply that by the amount of pages of smack in the thread that follows it.
It's an odd definition of what fun is, but hey it works for them.
Btw, if you want to do a kills/losses contest I suggest you look further down that very same KB and check the other losses for the day (also check script0rs Geddon if you wish) and keep claiming you did more financial damage. Might be fun =/
he asked for what happened I just said what seemed happened by looking at it the most accurate way taking kills from both sides. Theres nothing good or bad about it. How we evaluate our own performance should have no bearing on how you enjoy the game.
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LcGhK9
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Posted - 2005.11.15 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
It's kinda cumbersome to access I agree, and I doubt it's even anywhere near accurate, just like your own killboard.
I dont have a killboard.
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MrSpock
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Posted - 2005.11.16 05:48:00 -
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Edited by: MrSpock on 16/11/2005 05:49:25
Originally by: gr8razorx
guys it is really simple. If you actually want ccp to do anything about the lag or change the basis on which they promote their game, just make the big boys of the pc game industry understand what this game is lacking. It lacks proper customer support and proper gameplay if numbers > 20 participating in a battle. I for one have already drafted a nice letter to send to PC Gamer and have over 1000 digital signitures on it. A proper petition so to speak.
This and only this will have an impact on ccp's priorities. Should they get bad karma in a future pc gamer issue, it may actually kickstart there campaign to end the lag and do something about there dreadfull customer service.
As for the customer service well I would not even get into that as they do discriminate to whom they will actually give anything. PVP(no, regardless if it was a server problem as alot may have experienced), Carebear(Who lost a deimos in empire due to smartbomb, rofl got reimbursed. It may or may not have been me :)
Anyhow abysmal service, lack of proper people to investigate claims are just a few of the outlined incidents in my letter. Just though I would let the community know what I have been up to.
I may also cancel my accounts soon due to a mostly unplayable game. Well for what I joined the game for anyhow (Massive pvp engagements are what this game was all about at one time. Now it is just lvl 4 agent missions and ccp trying it's best to get as many subs as possible whilst giving not a damn about the players that have paid for years.
What a great idea.
I have sent concise letters to the following magazines as well:
* Computer Games
* Computer Gaming World
* Electronic Gaming Monthly
* Game Pro
* Now Playing
* Official Xbox
* PC Gamer
* PSM: 100% Independent Playstation
* Tips & Tricks
Additionally, numerous web sites including Gamespot & IGN (more to come.)
Good riddance to CCP, the dev team, and the game masters.
After giving them hundreds and hundreds of my hard-earned dollars, I don't think I'll be stopping this campaign any time soonÖ.
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Drakos
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Posted - 2005.11.16 15:37:00 -
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finnaly, good luck with that :)
ps: put the letter online so we can read it :P
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.11.16 15:38:00 -
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Lets hope it works
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Lone Bear
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Posted - 2005.11.16 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Lone Bear on 16/11/2005 16:18:24
Originally by: SengH
with RMR live on the test server.. would anyone be interested in a rematch to see if the optimizations make it worth resubscribing?
That would be really interesting and could provide feed back for CCP. A fleet battle should be made on Sisi to test those new improvements.
Edit: and GM/Dev should be warned so they dont blame anybody for "grief crashing" Sisi... Always have to cover our backs.
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Drakos
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Posted - 2005.11.16 16:34:00 -
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nah we will lag as always and then they say its because the sisi server is very weak. tranq would hold it etc etc...
just like they did pre exodus on the CA VS Stain and friends lag t(f)est in UQ :)
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Lone Bear
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Posted - 2005.11.16 18:05:00 -
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Well, considering actual situation we dont have much to loose Drakos, dont we? It may worth trying it.
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2005.11.17 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: LcGhK9
Edited by: LcGhK9 on 15/11/2005 10:57:10
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
As shown in this thread several times, Five determines their 'fun factor' by looking at the amount of kills they made minus the amount of losses they had and then multiply that by the amount of pages of smack in the thread that follows it.
It's an odd definition of what fun is, but hey it works for them.
Btw, if you want to do a kills/losses contest I suggest you look further down that very same KB and check the other losses for the day (also check script0rs Geddon if you wish) and keep claiming you did more financial damage. Might be fun =/
Why do F-E have no losses board? i cant seem to find it.
I tried clicking the reports thingy, but to no avail, where is your loss board?
Cause if they posted their losses they would crash their server :D
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.11.17 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: BirdBleed
Originally by: LcGhK9
Edited by: LcGhK9 on 15/11/2005 10:57:10
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
As shown in this thread several times, Five determines their 'fun factor' by looking at the amount of kills they made minus the amount of losses they had and then multiply that by the amount of pages of smack in the thread that follows it.
It's an odd definition of what fun is, but hey it works for them.
Btw, if you want to do a kills/losses contest I suggest you look further down that very same KB and check the other losses for the day (also check script0rs Geddon if you wish) and keep claiming you did more financial damage. Might be fun =/
Why do F-E have no losses board? i cant seem to find it.
I tried clicking the reports thingy, but to no avail, where is your loss board?
Cause if they posted their losses they would crash their server :D
Who are you? And why is your corp stalking F-E? Personally I think it's because you are a nobody and wanna get some attention.
Fact of the matter is, that ifd you wanna smack like 5, you gotta fight like 5 as well. Obviously something you can't do. So please bugger off and let us worry about our losses.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Dillon Arklight
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Posted - 2005.11.17 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: Dillon Arklight on 17/11/2005 10:15:05
Lets keep this thread on topic and not give the Mods an excuse to lock it for smack/troll/off topic etc.
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.11.17 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dillon Arklight
Lets keep this thread on topic and not give the Mods an excuse to lock it for smack/troll/off topic etc.
Sounds like a good idea.
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Tycalos
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Posted - 2005.11.17 13:23:00 -
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FIVE stop complaining about lag and how lame FE/NBSI/PA playing because they outnumbered u. Its not our foot and not yours about what happend.
Its only CCP fault case closed.
In other point of view stop wining about who have balls r ub3rs and so on.
U must recoqnize u stayed to fight not because u r ub3r or have bals... u stayed to fight because u played for lag. U pressumed the enemy fleet will have much lag than u when they will jump on u and that will offer much advantage for u and for your ebil killratio on killboard.
In a envirovment 100% lag free for both sides i dont think u have any chance to won a fight againts a double sized fleet. So in minds of the five commanders lag who will encounter enemy fleet when they will jump was an important factor to win the battle.
Unfortunately for u CCP make'it a surprise and this time lagged both side's. Usually the camping fleet with grid loaded dont have too much lag.
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Endeva
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Posted - 2005.11.17 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: Endeva on 17/11/2005 13:56:04
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Endeva
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Posted - 2005.11.17 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: Endeva on 17/11/2005 13:57:16
Originally by: Tycalos
FIVE stop complaining about lag and how lame FE/NBSI/PA playing because they outnumbered u. Its not our foot and not yours about what happend.
Its only CCP fault case closed.
In other point of view stop wining about who have balls r ub3rs and so on.
U must recoqnize u stayed to fight not because u r ub3r or have bals... u stayed to fight because u played for lag. U pressumed the enemy fleet will have much lag than u when they will jump on u and that will offer much advantage for u and for your ebil killratio on killboard.
In a envirovment 100% lag free for both sides i dont think u have any chance to won a fight againts a double sized fleet. So in minds of the five commanders lag who will encounter enemy fleet when they will jump was an important factor to win the battle.
Unfortunately for u CCP make'it a surprise and this time lagged both side's. Usually the camping fleet with grid loaded dont have too much lag.
a u fuk*** retarded?if we want the lag we would launch drones like you do all the time.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.17 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tycalos
FIVE stop complaining about lag and how lame FE/NBSI/PA playing because they outnumbered u. Its not our foot and not yours about what happend.
Its only CCP fault case closed.
In other point of view stop wining about who have balls r ub3rs and so on.
U must recoqnize u stayed to fight not because u r ub3r or have bals... u stayed to fight because u played for lag. U pressumed the enemy fleet will have much lag than u when they will jump on u and that will offer much advantage for u and for your ebil killratio on killboard.
In a envirovment 100% lag free for both sides i dont think u have any chance to won a fight againts a double sized fleet. So in minds of the five commanders lag who will encounter enemy fleet when they will jump was an important factor to win the battle.
Unfortunately for u CCP make'it a surprise and this time lagged both side's. Usually the camping fleet with grid loaded dont have too much lag.
I see you haven't learned from your schooling in TPAR junior. We stayed at the gate beacuse we wanted to fight. Why else do you think we play this game? We don't play it to feed our families or accumulate virtual wealth. We play to bust the jaws of chumps like you and the best way to do that is beat your ass red with less numbers.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.17 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: Kcel Chim on 17/11/2005 23:38:02
Originally by: Tycalos
FIVE stop complaining about lag and how lame FE/NBSI/PA playing because they outnumbered u. Its not our foot and not yours about what happend.
Its only CCP fault case closed.
In other point of view stop wining about who have balls r ub3rs and so on.
U must recoqnize u stayed to fight not because u r ub3r or have bals... u stayed to fight because u played for lag. U pressumed the enemy fleet will have much lag than u when they will jump on u and that will offer much advantage for u and for your ebil killratio on killboard.
In a envirovment 100% lag free for both sides i dont think u have any chance to won a fight againts a double sized fleet. So in minds of the five commanders lag who will encounter enemy fleet when they will jump was an important factor to win the battle.
Unfortunately for u CCP make'it a surprise and this time lagged both side's. Usually the camping fleet with grid loaded dont have too much lag.
2 shots 2 misses.
a) if we counted on lag we would have deployed drones and bubbles tho neither is a gurantee that lag only strikes your opponent or makes much of a difference if the numbers are 200 vs 80 (the 80 includes already our covops) as only 40% of the enemy fleet would need to load to make it a equal fight lol.
b) we have in the past, especially in bkg and before that on other war theatres, shown that we jump in, even against 2:1 odds and knowing lag would strike us ontop aswell. As Darkryder put it, we are in for the spanking not for the walletmeasuremeant.
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Tycalos
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Posted - 2005.11.18 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim2 shots 2 misses.
a) if we counted on lag we would have deployed drones and bubbles tho neither is a gurantee that lag only strikes your opponent or makes much of a difference if the numbers are 200 vs 80 (the 80 includes already our covops) as only 40% of the enemy fleet would need to load to make it a equal fight lol.
b) we have in the past, especially in bkg and before that on other war theatres, shown that we jump in, even against 2:1 odds and knowing lag would strike us ontop aswell. As Darkryder put it, we are in for the spanking not for the walletmeasuremeant.[/quote
a) u already know at 250+ fleet battle will be enough lag for u aswell even if u have the grid loaded so no need to increase more with drones and bubbles. U expected for some lag for u but not so like u had.
b) u must be agree with me in a large battle even when the tranquility working good the fleet who jumped or warping in have much lag than the enemy who have the grid loaded.
Kvel Chim what i asked was honesty from you. Any commander want to win any fight (or if its outnumbered to make great dmg than enemy)... and from my POV a good commander must take in equation the LAG factor. And as u see in my previous post first phrase was to stop the flame about we choosed to jump on u. Its only CCP fault in this matter. We supposed to play a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER game not a small multiplayer game (like counterstrike 10vs10). So we paying to have fleets engagements in numbers much more than 30-40.
So all the flames needs to go to CCP direction not to ingame enemy.Until will have a perfect envirovment lag free in EVE fleet commanders must judge every fleet battle considering this LAG factor part of equation.
about Darkrydar reply no comment. U still need to grow. Ask your friends from delta team if u have any doubts how I earn my money and what i do for them in RL.
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2005.11.18 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tycalos
about Darkrydar reply no comment. U still need to grow. Ask your friends from delta team if u have any doubts how I earn my money and what i do for them in RL.
I never accused you of such. I just said what our motivations are to pay $15+/month for.
Btw, lag was worse for us, not those that jumped in...
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High Sierra
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Posted - 2005.11.19 11:28:00 -
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you are guys are STILL bleating on about this?
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.19 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tycalos
a) u already know at 250+ fleet battle will be enough lag for u aswell even if u have the grid loaded so no need to increase more with drones and bubbles. U expected for some lag for u but not so like u had.
We had fleetbattles in the past with more then 250 ppl and it is impossible to know what kind of lag ull experience as its different from south to north. However we asked a GM to boost the node when it was obvious a big fight would occure, quiet the opposite then deploying drones, bubbles or counting on lag.
However i do agree that we knew lag would strike, just that u cant say who it would strike, more along the lines of a general acceptance "its a fleetbattle there will be lag".
On the otherhand we had exspected FE and PA playing it smart, jumping into the system either from multiple gates or jumping in with smaller groups (70 at a time or 80) to reduce lag. Seems we were wrong.
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b) u must be agree with me in a large battle even when the tranquility working good the fleet who jumped or warping in have much lag than the enemy who have the grid loaded.
Theoretically thats true, as this case showed its not in practise.
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Kvel Chim what i asked was honesty from you. Any commander want to win any fight (or if its outnumbered to make great dmg than enemy)... and from my POV a good commander must take in equation the LAG factor.
Sorry but that seems to be your evaluation of a good commander. Usually our commanders consider lag as something which cant be changed but not as a deciding factor. Infact we jump in ourself most of the time which would lead your evaluation ad absurdum if it would apply to our commanders aswell.
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And as u see in my previous post first phrase was to stop the flame about we choosed to jump on u. Its only CCP fault in this matter. We supposed to play a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER game not a small multiplayer game (like counterstrike 10vs10). So we paying to have fleets engagements in numbers much more than 30-40.
So all the flames needs to go to CCP direction not to ingame enemy.Until will have a perfect envirovment lag free in EVE fleet commanders must judge every fleet battle considering this LAG factor part of equation.
Thats partly right and i agree ccp needs to improve bigtime. However it doesnt prevent ppl from going to the limits does it ? As you stated above you knew lag would be bad and yet, while having a numerical advantage you made a step which gurantees a lagblow or nodecrash.
You talked highly about commanders and i know atleast ours talk openly about reducing lagspikes (yes, for both sides) to make a fight happen. Yours apparently didnt, otherwise u would have taken a different approach or contacted one of our commanders about a possible solution (i.e. to let you in and load while we are in an SS, like we agreed upon with Fix in the past).
Its one thing to accept ccp is at fault, its another to enforce situations to exploit those known weaknesses to get an unfair advantage. (Or to crash the server knowingly, as you cant tell me u didnt have problems making your way even with the 2 seperate fleets jumping in to other systems)
Drones, bubbles, named cans dont use them and we can actually play the game instead of "gamble who loads", unless u prefer moving 40 jumps (or wait 2h respectively) to watch a black screen and maybe get the notice you died without particpating, seeing or hearing from the battle.
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Gunship
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:23:00 -
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LAG is an issue, not just for [5], but for all players in eve. With 17K+ players compare to the time where 10K was the ultimate goal the game has become more complex with more ships and modules. So to say that CCP has done nothing is unfair in my eyes. Some of the improvement has come from hardware improvements; Both the investment CCP has made, but also you and me in upgrading our own kit. The way forward is surely to ask CCP to keep chipping away at the problems rather than ranting on about it. Some dedicated resources and smart programming is what we need, not a heard of smack talking PvPÆers telling them that if they where in charge they could do much better blindfolded drinking Quafe
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.11.19 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Gunship
LAG is an issue, not just for [5], but for all players in eve. With 17K+ players compare to the time where 10K was the ultimate goal the game has become more complex with more ships and modules. So to say that CCP has done nothing is unfair in my eyes. Some of the improvement has come from hardware improvements; Both the investment CCP has made, but also you and me in upgrading our own kit. The way forward is surely to ask CCP to keep chipping away at the problems rather than ranting on about it. Some dedicated resources and smart programming is what we need, not a heard of smack talking PvPÆers telling them that if they where in charge they could do much better blindfolded drinking Quafe
i prefer quafe ultra and spiced wine. Dont forget about the exotic dancers tho.
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