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Gooren
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Posted - 2003.08.08 12:12:00 -
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I have been offered places in corporations who are allied to the Venal Alliance and until today, I had considered the propostion. After reading of the cowardly attack on an unarmed freighter...and the disgusting act of destroying the pilots life pod...I will consider these request no more. It has become clear to me after all that I have heard, that the Venal Alliance is a group of Pirates, thieves, murderers and cut-throats. There is no honor nor law among them.
While they may have the right to claim Venal space as their own, destroying innocent and unarmed freighters is a sickening crime against the galaxy and denizens of Eve. I am calling upon all those who despise what the Venal Alliance has become to unite. If they feel justified in killing and then podding people in their space...then we should ensure that anyone from the Alliance who ventures into Empire space is treated in kind.
As such, I am asking people who despise the Alliance to list the corps that are signed members of the VA. Members of these corps should be destroyed and podded on sight to ensure that Venal Alliance doesnt get any ambitions to expand further. If you want to see a little justice done...sign up to the Imperial Alliance...make your application known here...or mail me and I will get back to you. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Id like you to meet a friend of mine, hes called Mr Stabby! |

Miso
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Posted - 2003.08.08 13:13:00 -
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Well, you took your time figuring that out. Good luck with your "alliance". ;)
Miso
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.08 14:00:00 -
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yaaaar sez I!!!
now where did i put me drugs... --
"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |

Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.08.08 14:09:00 -
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List of VA members has been available for weeks.
(Take a copy now though coz it wont be there after another 3 weeks.)
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.08 14:12:00 -
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yaaaaaaaar! --
"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |

eriq
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Posted - 2003.08.08 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: eriq on 08/08/2003 14:37:55 While they may have the right to claim Venal space as their own, destroying innocent and unarmed freighters is a sickening crime against the galaxy and denizens of Eve
hehe, so which is it? do they have the right to claim Venal as their own, or not? if they do then they certainly have the right to police said space to keep out unwanted visitors and, thus, it's not a sickening crime against the galaxy and denizens of Eve.
now if the VA were to come and kill you in Lonetrek or something maybe you'd have a point...
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Adam Edwards
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Posted - 2003.08.08 14:46:00 -
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hehe, so which is it? do they have the right to claim Venal as their own, or not? if they do then they certainly have the right to police said space to keep out unwanted visitors and, thus, it's not a [i]sickening crime against the galaxy and denizens of Eve.
I disagree. If a first day gamer was to accidently fly into a system "owned" by the Venal Alliance, and they shot and podded him, then they ruined his whole first time experiance. This cowardly pirate activity should not be allowed to continue.
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Byterider
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Posted - 2003.08.08 14:52:00 -
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A first day player shouldn't be in 0.0 space to begin with. If it was a TTI pilot who podded him, he'd at least have a standing chance to be compensated for his loss. Can't say the same about many other corps out there.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:02:00 -
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I can't imagine a first day pilot even managing to find out where venal is, much less make it there in his ibis on day one.
Until you tell us some real details of this so-called 'injustice', I will call shenanigans.
I could say you podded my workmate who has just started piloting this week. It would be no less true that what you have claimed.
List of VA alliance member corps and 'allowed parties' have been posted up on this forum enough times.
So....
Speak now or forever be considered a liar:
Who killed who? Why was the victim where he was? Why didn't you help/advise? .
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:03:00 -
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Also, why are you posting under an alt? something to hide? .
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SYCO
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:04:00 -
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hehe thats funny
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Adam Edwards
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:07:00 -
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I could say you podded my workmate who has just started piloting this week. It would be no less true that what you have claimed.
I'm not claiming it's true, its a hypothetical situation. Don't they teach yall anything in pirate school.
Blowing away someone without warning for doing nothing wrong can only be considered a act of cowardly piracy.
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:08:00 -
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Well I know I indicate I am in the alliance on my sig. Have a new threat quote now of the week at least.
Next....nothing to see here.
The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:12:00 -
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oh, forget the alt bit, it's probably just Galen, hiding behind a thin veneer of disguise.
Understand this, Galen:
Venal belongs to the Venal Alliance. We do not entertain unrequested visitors.
We are amidst hostilities. Thusly, every person who enters our space is ejected in any way that the assigned security contingent chooses. They may slap you and tell you not to come back, they may kill you and tell you not to come back. They may just kill you.
According to our guidelines, pilots are not to be podded unless provoked (refusing orders/sassmouthing/returning fire/insults).
So, unless you did any of these things, then the podding was in error. I would expect the killer to offer an apology.
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eriq
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: eriq on 08/08/2003 15:17:50 hehe, so which is it? do they have the right to claim Venal as their own, or not? if they do then they certainly have the right to police said space to keep out unwanted visitors and, thus, it's not a [i]sickening crime against the galaxy and denizens of Eve.
I disagree. If a first day gamer was to accidently fly into a system "owned" by the Venal Alliance, and they shot and podded him, then they ruined his whole first time experiance. This cowardly pirate activity should not be allowed to continue.
how can you disagree with me? i didn't make a statement but rather asked for clarification and two opinions that are in conflict with each other.
to address your point though, i agree and enjoy pvp but i don't agree with pk'ing noobs
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:18:00 -
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Adam, Galen is claiming that a member of VA has podded someone.
He gives no details, yet he calls for hostilities against the VA.
I merely request details, such as: location of attack, aggressor, victim. This information shouldn't be hard for the original poster to get. All he has to do is log on as his main character, and check his mail... .
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eriq
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:26:00 -
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uh guys, it's not gaelen that's making the claim.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:28:00 -
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If a first day gamer was podded his loss would be nothing as he wouldnt have enough skill points or a ship to loose. He'd just be spared the long journey home.
And i really dont believe that any of our member corporations ever invited you, you're just trying to spice things up.
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Gooren
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:40:00 -
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First of all, I am not this...gaelen? I dont know who you are on about...but I am me. Not someone you wish me to be. If you bothered to read the news threads, you would know the incident that I am on about. But obviously most in VA are particularly dense and cant flip through the news channels. But that doesnt matter. Im not the first to call for hostilities against VA...and I will not be the last.
As to my being invited into various member corps in VA, let your ego think what it likes. I had been made several offers to join...all of which I will no longer be responding too. I look forwards to the day that someone knocks that alliance down a peg or two...and that day is going to come. _______________________________________________ Id like you to meet a friend of mine, hes called Mr Stabby! |

Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:42:00 -
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Yeah yeah, sureee  -
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Setec
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Posted - 2003.08.08 15:50:00 -
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For somebody trying to call TTI, Space Invaders, and other Venal member corps "dense," you sure don't have a very good grasp of second-grade spelling. ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |

drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.08 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: drunkenmaster on 08/08/2003 16:46:41 His spelling and grammatical inflections are very similar to Galen's, too.
Until further information is forthcoming, I brand both of these characters liars, slanderers and rabble-rousers.
Proof, Galen/Goolen, or be forever branded a liar.
Also, Galen is no newb, I remember selling him a batch of missiles over a month ago.
And trying to start a war whilst giving no evidence, no names (for verification), no location, nothing, is pretty weak.
Liar. .
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.08.08 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: Tehel Necrona on 08/08/2003 16:45:08 How far would you go to protect paradise?
Tehel
P.S. eriq, Galen is not Gaelen, their refering to a differnt person, not our corp mate :)
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.08 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: drunkenmaster on 08/08/2003 17:11:38
Quote: First of all, I am not this...gaelen? I dont know who you are on about...but I am me. Not someone you wish me to be. If you bothered to read the news threads, you would know the incident that I am on about. But obviously most in VA are particularly dense and cant flip through the news channels. But that doesnt matter. Im not the first to call for hostilities against VA...and I will not be the last.
As to my being invited into various member corps in VA, let your ego think what it likes. I had been made several offers to join...all of which I will no longer be responding too. I look forwards to the day that someone knocks that alliance down a peg or two...and that day is going to come.
Don't pump yourself up. You're still in your starter school, and were probably bought into existence in the last few days. You may not be aware of this, due to only having a default memory set upon activation. I hate to break it to you, but you are only two days old. You Security status is so flat I would hazard a guess that you haven't even shot anything yet, bar the tutorial drone.
Why would anyone actively recruit someone, who for all intents and purposes, is nobody. You have no background, you don't do anything, the only thing you have going for you is a quiet future, if you just own up, explain the situation, and give the people you are insinuating some way to explain their side of the story. Or is it not all as rosy-cheeks as you're making out?
You and your master are on my podding list for now, until this is cleared up.
VA will not stand for this sort of rambling accusation, with little or no evidence. We can't even say for sure that he was even podded. The case against VA here is very weak.
Evidence, or shenanigans, your choice. .
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Adam Edwards
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Posted - 2003.08.08 17:41:00 -
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Until further information is forthcoming, I brand both of these characters liars, slanderers and rabble-rousers.
Proof, Galen/Goolen, or be forever branded a liar.
You pirates really have a bad habit with calling people who don't agree with you liars.What reason does Galen/Goolen have to lie?
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Gafton
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Posted - 2003.08.08 17:58:00 -
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Actually they have a point. The fact that the topic started cant produce a location nor the person who podded him discredits his original accusation. An accusation without some kind of proof is heresay.
I could easily say that Eve Marshals podded me yesterday and that I wanted everyone to put EM on a pod list. This statement is without basis or proof, such as the topic starter's accusation.
Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead. |

drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.08 18:16:00 -
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The truth has now come out, a couple of VA pilot pirated G as he was leaving venal with about 100 Million in goods. On his own. With no weapons/protection.
I'm pretty sure his agent didn't require this vast quantity of goods. Therefore I must imagine they are for personal use. Shame he wasn't thoughtful enough to split some of the potential profit with a couple of escorts, or even use some of it to pave the way through pirate waters, as many have before him.
VA will continue to protect their territory in any way they see fit. After all, in venal, we *are* the law. Judge, jury and executioner. .
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Uncle Enzo
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Posted - 2003.08.08 18:17:00 -
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Eve Marshals podded me!
My security rating is 0.0. Nobody has ever heard of me. I can't provide any details.
None of that matters. I call on the Imperial Alliance to destroy them!
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Adam Edwards
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Posted - 2003.08.08 18:20:00 -
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I'm not saying that Gooren is right, but yall don't have any proof that arent lying either.
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Gafton
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Posted - 2003.08.08 18:32:00 -
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So in your mind someone makes an accusation w/o proof, and it's up to the person accused to prove they're innocent? The fact is that the person doesnt state a location nor person who podded. That makes it pretty hard for someone to check and see if they did infact kill this person. Since this person was just starting out, it's possible they were in Lonetrek, Pure Blind, or The Forge region. Simple mistakes can happen for starting out characters. As well I'd like to know how they got to Venal in an ibis as the despoilers at the gates would have torn it to bits on approach.
Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead. |
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