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Aliventi
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
100
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:34:00 -
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I am going to say this up front: My interests are prolonging fights so I have something to do/someone to shoot for many more nights. I don't care if Goons wins. I don't care if TEST wins. I really couldn't care less how this war turns out.
But chances are you do.
You see TMC made a fancy post about why Goons+friends (to be referred to in the future as the CFC) need to take Fountain from TEST. Read here: Link. The tl;dr of that is the CFC needs 50+ R64 moons, which no longer suck due to Odyssey, to replace their now worthless Technetium holdings.
"It's all about the isk". Remember that. It will be important.
You see the CFC has enjoyed a comfortable life of leisure due to their Tech moons. Now that Tech is worthless they need to upgrade to these R64 moons to continue their life of leisure. If you read here: Link #2 you would see that TMC claims the CFC isk can hold out until 2014. This is a short 6 months away.
Remember: "it's all about the isk."
TEST on the other hand is rapidly running out of isk. They don't have the vast warchest the CFC does. They are having some issue getting reimbursement through due to this lack of isk. So they need more isk to be able to combat the vast quantity of isk the CFC has acquired due to years of holding Tech moons.
Remember: "it's all about the isk."
In a war like this where both sides are running out of isk the first one to do so has a greater chance of losing. Currently that would be TEST. But how can TEST turn things around? How can they aquire the vast amounts of isk needed to counter the CFC? Why not from a bunch of people who spend their days in highsec making money and have a distaste for the CFC?
You see highsec is the land of isk. If you want to make isk you go to highsec to do it. Many of you chose this path for your Eve career. Completely respectable IMO. The CFC on the other hand is not a big fan of your play style. Chances are you remember Hulkageddon I-V or whatever they ended on. You remember the Burn Jita campaigns. You remember the ice interdictions. The endless suicide gankings by the CFC.
What is the common thread through all of these events? Goons leading the CFC to attack industrialists, carebears and miners in highsec. You wanted to be left in peace. Just because your play style didn't match up to theirs they decided to attack you to attempt to remove it from you. To deny you your ability to make isk in peace.
Now it is time for your revenge.
The CFC underestimated you while they had endless isk for their Tech holdings. Now they are vulnerable. Since they are vulnerable it is time for you to strike. While I know some of you want to attack VFK or get in a frig or cruiser and attack them, that won't really help. What will help is propping TEST up through isk donations to outlast the CFC unitl the CFC is out of isk and unable to continue attacking. This isk will go to TEST being able to reship to continue to fight the CFC. The more fleets they can defend Fountain with the better shot they have at defeating the CFC.
How do you do that? Excellent question. Donate isk to the ingame corp Upvote . Upvote is the TEST alliance executor corp. Upvote's job is to reimburse losses for TEST alliance. The more isk you give them the more they can reimburse. Now every loss still needs replacing. Where do you replace losses? Highsec of course. So you give them isk, and they give it right back to you.
Remember: "it's all about the isk."
So I ask you: Give every isk you can to Upvote . This is your best chance to defeat the CFC. This is your best shot to prevent future hulkageddons, Burn Jitas, ice interdictions, and random suicide ganking by the CFC. This is your chance to strike back to help end the CFC.
Every isk help. Donate what you can to Upvote . Spread the word of this through Reddit, FHC, Kugu, in-game channels, your corps, etc. Link this thread around. Together all of highsec can defeat the CFC. If 10,000 of you donate 100 mil isk and you give TEST a trillion isk to fight the CFC. There are far more than 10,000 capsulers that live highsec. A vast many more have more than 100 mil. Donate 10 mil, 50 mil, 100 mil, 500 mil, 1 bil+ isk. Give TEST the isk to defeat the CFC.
Remember: "it's all about the isk."
And me? Well you give me more people to shoot. And that is good enough for me. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2347
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:37:00 -
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tl;dr:
It's another one of those farking threads. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
399
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:38:00 -
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Whoa wall o txt. Good thing I trained my wall o txt resistance up to V. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:41:00 -
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oh god.... too long to read 100% but is NC. calling hisec for help? welp People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back - this is EvE |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
207
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:42:00 -
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Aliventi wrote: This is your best shot to prevent future hulkageddons, Burn Jitas, ice interdictions, and random suicide ganking .
Why on earth would I want to prevent that?
I want TEST dead so I can go and visit my charming friends the Bloods.
I miss their all night parties er I mean solemn rituals
yeah thats it.
And the blood fountains.
rrrg Im jonesing here "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
971
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:42:00 -
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Now you're begging for ISK? I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner. Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |

Xayder
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
275
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:42:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/0QwFnWK.gif I don't always post, But when i post I do it with my main |

baltec1
Bat Country
6900
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:46:00 -
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Hulkageddon isnt a Goon event. |

Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
399
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:46:00 -
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The war is already won. The peons fight for our hi sec amusement. Let them have the illusion of power. That's all they have. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
283
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:50:00 -
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It is sad really how many high sec dwellers do not see the bigger picture and insist on trolling our Save Test threads instead.
I wonder what will happen when CFC takes over all of Test space. Will they then turn their attention to Jita?
If high sec does not rally behind Test, I fear Test has no hope. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
399
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:54:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: It is sad really how many high sec dwellers do not see the bigger picture and insist on trolling our Save Test threads instead.
I wonder what will happen when CFC takes over all of Test space. Will they then turn their attention to Jita?
If high sec does not rally behind Test, I fear Test has no hope.
Please paint the picture for us. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
413
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:54:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: It is sad really how many high sec dwellers do not see the bigger picture and insist on trolling our Save Test threads instead.
I wonder what will happen when CFC takes over all of Test space. Will they then turn their attention to Jita?
If high sec does not rally behind Test, I fear Test has no hope.
Unless they can get some of those 12000 people in their alliance to start logging in, nope they have no hope.
EVE is, was and always will be about the blob. If they want to fight for the 'honor' of Reddit, for Delve, for the chuckles of it, the main point is, they need to be at the fights. They need to make this as painful as possible so even if they lose, they leave Goons so damaged someone else can finish the job. R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Zaand Schtvaal
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:57:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: It is sad really how many high sec dwellers do not see the bigger picture and insist on trolling our Save Test threads instead.
I wonder what will happen when CFC takes over all of Test space. Will they then turn their attention to Jita?
If high sec does not rally behind Test, I fear Test has no hope.
Confirming: as soon as Fountain falls, we're coming to take sov in The Forge. |

Amarra Mandalin
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
589
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:04:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: It is sad really how many high sec dwellers do not see the bigger picture and insist on trolling our Save Test threads instead.
I wonder what will happen when CFC takes over all of Test space. Will they then turn their attention to Jita?
If high sec does not rally behind Test, I fear Test has no hope.
Unless they can get some of those 12000 people in their alliance to start logging in, nope they have no hope. EVE is, was and always will be about the blob. If they want to fight for the 'honor' of Reddit, for Delve, for the chuckles of it, the main point is, they need to be at the fights. They need to make this as painful as possible so even if they lose, they leave Goons so damaged someone else can finish the job.
This.
And , I'm not paying for stupid.
Unless it's my own stupid, and even then.... |

Aurora Silvare
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
2
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:44:00 -
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I have an idea! Maybe instead of just giving your hard earned isk away to Upvote, you can sell your minerals to them at 20% below Jita value too! That would be a sweet deal!
"Test will now be buying minerals to build ~stuff~ with. We will accept anything you have in Y-O and 5BTK. We will pay 80% of Jita prices for any mineral. Please contract to Upvote and wait until you have at least 100M of stuff so we aren't bombarded with contracts." |

CompleteFailure
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
42
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:24:00 -
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Garnoo wrote:oh god.... too long to read 100% but is NC. calling hisec for help? welp
Not just that, but calling high sec for help on behalf of TEST
TBH though it's probably a scam attempt. Anyone donating is pretty f***king dumb if you ask me. "A fool and his money are soon parted," and all that. |

Amarra Mandalin
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
591
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:25:00 -
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Aurora Silvare wrote:I have an idea! Maybe instead of just giving your hard earned isk away to Upvote, you can sell your minerals to them at 20% below Jita value too! That would be a sweet deal!
"Test will now be buying minerals to build ~stuff~ with. We will accept anything you have in Y-O and 5BTK. We will pay 80% of Jita prices for any mineral. Please contract to Upvote and wait until you have at least 100M of stuff so we aren't bombarded with contracts."
At least that is a hand up and not a hand out.
Still Ramona's got Blood to kill and I have a Rifter or something held hostage in TEG. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
220
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:28:00 -
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Amarra Mandalin wrote:Aurora Silvare wrote:I have an idea! Maybe instead of just giving your hard earned isk away to Upvote, you can sell your minerals to them at 20% below Jita value too! That would be a sweet deal!
"Test will now be buying minerals to build ~stuff~ with. We will accept anything you have in Y-O and 5BTK. We will pay 80% of Jita prices for any mineral. Please contract to Upvote and wait until you have at least 100M of stuff so we aren't bombarded with contracts." At least that is a hand up and not a hand out. Still Ramona's got Blood to work for and I have a Rifter or something held hostage in TEG.
Sorry, I had to fix that
The Blood Covenant is your friend
All they ask is a donation to the church
A few pints would be great
But yes, TEST should go away "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

S D Plissken
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:28:00 -
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More sperging please.
Only a dead rodent is a good rodent.
Call me Snake |

Lister Vindaloo
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:48:00 -
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TEST must be in real financial trouble, and I seem to remember seeing plenty of testes on burn jita killmails, so I should care about their poor fiscal management ? I've got a couple of hundred million ISK in minerals, I'll sell them to you at 120% of Jita prices, coz its probably the best deal you'll get. Moochy-moochy |

Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
504
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:51:00 -
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1 bill sent |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
289
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:58:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:1 bill sent
How very generous of you! Do you have any special requests for how they spend the isk in the war effort? See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Sunshyn LaBlond
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:38:00 -
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Null sec needs high sec to sell stuff. That's it. The thin warchest the OP thinks exists (well maybe for Test) is still an amount of isk that entire high sec alliances won't see in their lifetimes. The strings of high sec markets are pulled in null sec. Burn Jita simply made money for null sec, the 'outrage' over Incarna was just a smokescreen.
Unless high sec is wiling to actually undock a battle fleet and head to Fountain to contest the CFC land grab, then this is a moot point.
If these groups wanted you to die for them, they could at least offer open recruitment. None are offering to take carebears out to null sec and share in their wealth. They want you to go there on your own- only to be as likely killed by them as by Goons since null sec is NBSI.
It takes a special kind of idiocy to make these threads. You do realize that all of high sec is collectively rolling on the floor with laughter over big bad null sec entities begging carebears to help them. Really just sad. |

Steve Spooner
Mordu's Military Industrial Command Circle-Of-Two
85
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:46:00 -
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Herding cats has been a point that has been brought up when trying to rally high sec. That isn't necessarily true. Cats CAN be successfully herded when given proper incentive i.e cat weed, so unless TEST can give some of those delicious moons as incentive for the high sec fleet to get off their butts (neither side will) then no help from the Jita conglomerate. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
813
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:50:00 -
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Thought scamms on GD were not aloud.
Welp... *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
162
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:56:00 -
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Confirming Goons are the only organisation that has ever attacked anything in hisec.
/sarcasm (did I really need that tag?) |

Koriel Vandrec
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:13:00 -
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I am a bit confused. I have asked in local and people all say that Goons and Test are really the same alliance. Please explain.
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
268
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:15:00 -
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I read the OP's entire post and I think there are basically two choices here:
(1) Give ISK to Test to help them fight Goons. (2) Don't give money to Test to help them fight Goons.
That is all.
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
415
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:21:00 -
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Steve Spooner wrote:Herding cats has been a point that has been brought up when trying to rally high sec. That isn't necessarily true. Cats CAN be successfully herded when given proper incentive i.e cat weed, so unless TEST can give some of those delicious moons as incentive for the high sec fleet to get off their butts (neither side will) then no help from the Jita conglomerate.
They don't need to give them Moons. They just need to stop being so paranoid about neutrals.
Test: You want High Sec on your side?
Make Delve NRDS I don't give a rats ass who you set red but if they aren't red, don't shoot them.
"Oh but all the noob corp spies"! No, the spies aren't in Noob corps. They are in test corps and we both know it. R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:24:00 -
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Ioci wrote: Make Delve NRDS
yes do this please |
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