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Aliventi
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
100
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:34:00 -
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I am going to say this up front: My interests are prolonging fights so I have something to do/someone to shoot for many more nights. I don't care if Goons wins. I don't care if TEST wins. I really couldn't care less how this war turns out.
But chances are you do.
You see TMC made a fancy post about why Goons+friends (to be referred to in the future as the CFC) need to take Fountain from TEST. Read here: Link. The tl;dr of that is the CFC needs 50+ R64 moons, which no longer suck due to Odyssey, to replace their now worthless Technetium holdings.
"It's all about the isk". Remember that. It will be important.
You see the CFC has enjoyed a comfortable life of leisure due to their Tech moons. Now that Tech is worthless they need to upgrade to these R64 moons to continue their life of leisure. If you read here: Link #2 you would see that TMC claims the CFC isk can hold out until 2014. This is a short 6 months away.
Remember: "it's all about the isk."
TEST on the other hand is rapidly running out of isk. They don't have the vast warchest the CFC does. They are having some issue getting reimbursement through due to this lack of isk. So they need more isk to be able to combat the vast quantity of isk the CFC has acquired due to years of holding Tech moons.
Remember: "it's all about the isk."
In a war like this where both sides are running out of isk the first one to do so has a greater chance of losing. Currently that would be TEST. But how can TEST turn things around? How can they aquire the vast amounts of isk needed to counter the CFC? Why not from a bunch of people who spend their days in highsec making money and have a distaste for the CFC?
You see highsec is the land of isk. If you want to make isk you go to highsec to do it. Many of you chose this path for your Eve career. Completely respectable IMO. The CFC on the other hand is not a big fan of your play style. Chances are you remember Hulkageddon I-V or whatever they ended on. You remember the Burn Jita campaigns. You remember the ice interdictions. The endless suicide gankings by the CFC.
What is the common thread through all of these events? Goons leading the CFC to attack industrialists, carebears and miners in highsec. You wanted to be left in peace. Just because your play style didn't match up to theirs they decided to attack you to attempt to remove it from you. To deny you your ability to make isk in peace.
Now it is time for your revenge.
The CFC underestimated you while they had endless isk for their Tech holdings. Now they are vulnerable. Since they are vulnerable it is time for you to strike. While I know some of you want to attack VFK or get in a frig or cruiser and attack them, that won't really help. What will help is propping TEST up through isk donations to outlast the CFC unitl the CFC is out of isk and unable to continue attacking. This isk will go to TEST being able to reship to continue to fight the CFC. The more fleets they can defend Fountain with the better shot they have at defeating the CFC.
How do you do that? Excellent question. Donate isk to the ingame corp Upvote . Upvote is the TEST alliance executor corp. Upvote's job is to reimburse losses for TEST alliance. The more isk you give them the more they can reimburse. Now every loss still needs replacing. Where do you replace losses? Highsec of course. So you give them isk, and they give it right back to you.
Remember: "it's all about the isk."
So I ask you: Give every isk you can to Upvote . This is your best chance to defeat the CFC. This is your best shot to prevent future hulkageddons, Burn Jitas, ice interdictions, and random suicide ganking by the CFC. This is your chance to strike back to help end the CFC.
Every isk help. Donate what you can to Upvote . Spread the word of this through Reddit, FHC, Kugu, in-game channels, your corps, etc. Link this thread around. Together all of highsec can defeat the CFC. If 10,000 of you donate 100 mil isk and you give TEST a trillion isk to fight the CFC. There are far more than 10,000 capsulers that live highsec. A vast many more have more than 100 mil. Donate 10 mil, 50 mil, 100 mil, 500 mil, 1 bil+ isk. Give TEST the isk to defeat the CFC.
Remember: "it's all about the isk."
And me? Well you give me more people to shoot. And that is good enough for me. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2347
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:37:00 -
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tl;dr:
It's another one of those farking threads. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
399
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:38:00 -
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Whoa wall o txt. Good thing I trained my wall o txt resistance up to V. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:41:00 -
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oh god.... too long to read 100% but is NC. calling hisec for help? welp People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back - this is EvE |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
207
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:42:00 -
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Aliventi wrote: This is your best shot to prevent future hulkageddons, Burn Jitas, ice interdictions, and random suicide ganking .
Why on earth would I want to prevent that?
I want TEST dead so I can go and visit my charming friends the Bloods.
I miss their all night parties er I mean solemn rituals
yeah thats it.
And the blood fountains.
rrrg Im jonesing here "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
971
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:42:00 -
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Now you're begging for ISK? I'm not entirely clear on the point of this, but I do have a sudden urge to jump in a catalyst and blow up a miner. Twitter! - @AzamiNevinyrall I'm half expecting a ban for this post. |

Xayder
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
275
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:42:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/0QwFnWK.gif I don't always post, But when i post I do it with my main |

baltec1
Bat Country
6900
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:46:00 -
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Hulkageddon isnt a Goon event. |

Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
399
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:46:00 -
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The war is already won. The peons fight for our hi sec amusement. Let them have the illusion of power. That's all they have. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
283
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:50:00 -
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It is sad really how many high sec dwellers do not see the bigger picture and insist on trolling our Save Test threads instead.
I wonder what will happen when CFC takes over all of Test space. Will they then turn their attention to Jita?
If high sec does not rally behind Test, I fear Test has no hope. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
399
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:54:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: It is sad really how many high sec dwellers do not see the bigger picture and insist on trolling our Save Test threads instead.
I wonder what will happen when CFC takes over all of Test space. Will they then turn their attention to Jita?
If high sec does not rally behind Test, I fear Test has no hope.
Please paint the picture for us. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
|

Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
413
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:54:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: It is sad really how many high sec dwellers do not see the bigger picture and insist on trolling our Save Test threads instead.
I wonder what will happen when CFC takes over all of Test space. Will they then turn their attention to Jita?
If high sec does not rally behind Test, I fear Test has no hope.
Unless they can get some of those 12000 people in their alliance to start logging in, nope they have no hope.
EVE is, was and always will be about the blob. If they want to fight for the 'honor' of Reddit, for Delve, for the chuckles of it, the main point is, they need to be at the fights. They need to make this as painful as possible so even if they lose, they leave Goons so damaged someone else can finish the job. R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Zaand Schtvaal
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.06.11 19:57:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: It is sad really how many high sec dwellers do not see the bigger picture and insist on trolling our Save Test threads instead.
I wonder what will happen when CFC takes over all of Test space. Will they then turn their attention to Jita?
If high sec does not rally behind Test, I fear Test has no hope.
Confirming: as soon as Fountain falls, we're coming to take sov in The Forge. |

Amarra Mandalin
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
589
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:04:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Erotica 1 wrote: It is sad really how many high sec dwellers do not see the bigger picture and insist on trolling our Save Test threads instead.
I wonder what will happen when CFC takes over all of Test space. Will they then turn their attention to Jita?
If high sec does not rally behind Test, I fear Test has no hope.
Unless they can get some of those 12000 people in their alliance to start logging in, nope they have no hope. EVE is, was and always will be about the blob. If they want to fight for the 'honor' of Reddit, for Delve, for the chuckles of it, the main point is, they need to be at the fights. They need to make this as painful as possible so even if they lose, they leave Goons so damaged someone else can finish the job.
This.
And , I'm not paying for stupid.
Unless it's my own stupid, and even then.... |

Aurora Silvare
Koshaku Gentlemen's Agreement
2
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Posted - 2013.06.11 20:44:00 -
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I have an idea! Maybe instead of just giving your hard earned isk away to Upvote, you can sell your minerals to them at 20% below Jita value too! That would be a sweet deal!
"Test will now be buying minerals to build ~stuff~ with. We will accept anything you have in Y-O and 5BTK. We will pay 80% of Jita prices for any mineral. Please contract to Upvote and wait until you have at least 100M of stuff so we aren't bombarded with contracts." |

CompleteFailure
Polaris Rising Gentlemen's Agreement
42
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:24:00 -
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Garnoo wrote:oh god.... too long to read 100% but is NC. calling hisec for help? welp
Not just that, but calling high sec for help on behalf of TEST
TBH though it's probably a scam attempt. Anyone donating is pretty f***king dumb if you ask me. "A fool and his money are soon parted," and all that. |

Amarra Mandalin
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
591
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:25:00 -
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Aurora Silvare wrote:I have an idea! Maybe instead of just giving your hard earned isk away to Upvote, you can sell your minerals to them at 20% below Jita value too! That would be a sweet deal!
"Test will now be buying minerals to build ~stuff~ with. We will accept anything you have in Y-O and 5BTK. We will pay 80% of Jita prices for any mineral. Please contract to Upvote and wait until you have at least 100M of stuff so we aren't bombarded with contracts."
At least that is a hand up and not a hand out.
Still Ramona's got Blood to kill and I have a Rifter or something held hostage in TEG. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
220
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:28:00 -
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Amarra Mandalin wrote:Aurora Silvare wrote:I have an idea! Maybe instead of just giving your hard earned isk away to Upvote, you can sell your minerals to them at 20% below Jita value too! That would be a sweet deal!
"Test will now be buying minerals to build ~stuff~ with. We will accept anything you have in Y-O and 5BTK. We will pay 80% of Jita prices for any mineral. Please contract to Upvote and wait until you have at least 100M of stuff so we aren't bombarded with contracts." At least that is a hand up and not a hand out. Still Ramona's got Blood to work for and I have a Rifter or something held hostage in TEG.
Sorry, I had to fix that
The Blood Covenant is your friend
All they ask is a donation to the church
A few pints would be great
But yes, TEST should go away "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

S D Plissken
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:28:00 -
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More sperging please.
Only a dead rodent is a good rodent.
Call me Snake |

Lister Vindaloo
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:48:00 -
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TEST must be in real financial trouble, and I seem to remember seeing plenty of testes on burn jita killmails, so I should care about their poor fiscal management ? I've got a couple of hundred million ISK in minerals, I'll sell them to you at 120% of Jita prices, coz its probably the best deal you'll get. Moochy-moochy |

Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
504
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:51:00 -
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1 bill sent |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
289
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Posted - 2013.06.11 21:58:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:1 bill sent
How very generous of you! Do you have any special requests for how they spend the isk in the war effort? See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Sunshyn LaBlond
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:38:00 -
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Null sec needs high sec to sell stuff. That's it. The thin warchest the OP thinks exists (well maybe for Test) is still an amount of isk that entire high sec alliances won't see in their lifetimes. The strings of high sec markets are pulled in null sec. Burn Jita simply made money for null sec, the 'outrage' over Incarna was just a smokescreen.
Unless high sec is wiling to actually undock a battle fleet and head to Fountain to contest the CFC land grab, then this is a moot point.
If these groups wanted you to die for them, they could at least offer open recruitment. None are offering to take carebears out to null sec and share in their wealth. They want you to go there on your own- only to be as likely killed by them as by Goons since null sec is NBSI.
It takes a special kind of idiocy to make these threads. You do realize that all of high sec is collectively rolling on the floor with laughter over big bad null sec entities begging carebears to help them. Really just sad. |

Steve Spooner
Mordu's Military Industrial Command Circle-Of-Two
85
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:46:00 -
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Herding cats has been a point that has been brought up when trying to rally high sec. That isn't necessarily true. Cats CAN be successfully herded when given proper incentive i.e cat weed, so unless TEST can give some of those delicious moons as incentive for the high sec fleet to get off their butts (neither side will) then no help from the Jita conglomerate. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
813
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:50:00 -
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Thought scamms on GD were not aloud.
Welp... *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
162
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:56:00 -
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Confirming Goons are the only organisation that has ever attacked anything in hisec.
/sarcasm (did I really need that tag?) |

Koriel Vandrec
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:13:00 -
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I am a bit confused. I have asked in local and people all say that Goons and Test are really the same alliance. Please explain.
|

Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
268
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:15:00 -
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I read the OP's entire post and I think there are basically two choices here:
(1) Give ISK to Test to help them fight Goons. (2) Don't give money to Test to help them fight Goons.
That is all.
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
415
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:21:00 -
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Steve Spooner wrote:Herding cats has been a point that has been brought up when trying to rally high sec. That isn't necessarily true. Cats CAN be successfully herded when given proper incentive i.e cat weed, so unless TEST can give some of those delicious moons as incentive for the high sec fleet to get off their butts (neither side will) then no help from the Jita conglomerate.
They don't need to give them Moons. They just need to stop being so paranoid about neutrals.
Test: You want High Sec on your side?
Make Delve NRDS I don't give a rats ass who you set red but if they aren't red, don't shoot them.
"Oh but all the noob corp spies"! No, the spies aren't in Noob corps. They are in test corps and we both know it. R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:24:00 -
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Ioci wrote: Make Delve NRDS
yes do this please |

Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
415
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:29:00 -
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Elizabeth Aideron wrote:Ioci wrote: Make Delve NRDS
yes do this please
Why? They won't have it in 3 months unless they can rally reddit.
Tip: Deklein was taken with the Drake, not an Ego fleet. R.I.P. Vile Rat |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3658
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:57:00 -
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Koriel Vandrec wrote:I am a bit confused. I have asked in local and people all say that Goons and Test are really the same alliance. Please explain. This is all according to the plan of The Mittani. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
85
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Posted - 2013.06.12 00:05:00 -
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I am personally surprised how the Goons are fighting, after reading the State of the Goonions address - where their inglorious leader told his minions to get Fountain because he wants the tech moons. The speech was not covered in the normal 'Braveheart' rhetoric but a order to take Fountain 'cause I want the ISK' ! Oh - the ship replacement scheme is shelved for the masses so fight you pubbies... and die for my right to gather ISK.
It takes all types to play Eve... I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking |

Laserak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2013.06.12 00:39:00 -
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lol |

Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy Caldari State
90
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Posted - 2013.06.12 02:28:00 -
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TL;DR |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8227
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Posted - 2013.06.12 02:34:00 -
[36] - Quote
Aliventi wrote:IThis is your best shot to prevent future hulkageddons, Burn Jitas, ice interdictions, and random suicide ganking by the CFC. This is your chance to strike back to help end the CFC.
I wonder where we'd go if you kicked us out of our space to expand your renter empire Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3665
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Posted - 2013.06.12 02:38:00 -
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Andski wrote:Aliventi wrote:IThis is your best shot to prevent future hulkageddons, Burn Jitas, ice interdictions, and random suicide ganking by the CFC. This is your chance to strike back to help end the CFC. I wonder where we'd go if you kicked us out of our space to expand your renter empire Providence? I am a nullsec zealot. |

Abditus Cularius
Clancularius Industries
187
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Posted - 2013.06.12 02:39:00 -
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How to beat goons, test, and all other forum warrior chest beating etards:
Step 1 - Don't care about the forums.
The end. |

Muletron McSlaverson
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:08:00 -
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Hi, I'm a carebear industrialist's alt. Naturally I wouldn't post on my main, since I'm a cowardly carebear. I make things in the hopes that they'll be bought, explode, and then bought again. Wouldn't do me much good if I sold just one, would it? For me, ISK is created by explosions.
"ISK is created by explosions." Remember that. It will be important.
If I'm reading your argument correctly, you're saying that I should donate ISK to TEST in order to prolong the war. That's a little confusing. Don't get me wrongGÇöI like war. War explodes things, and ISK is created by explosions. Donating my ISK, on the other hand? That's that **** I don't like.
Here's the thing...as you pointed out, Goons always explode things. That's their job. If they're not doing it in Fountain, they'll do it in highsec. Frankly, that's even better, because it means that they're exploding my competitors who're too ******* stupid to tank their indies or run two freighters instead of one. Competitors who can't be bothered to stock up in advance of Burn Jita, or sell Macks instead of fly them during ice interdictions.
ISK is created by explosions.
It's also worth pointing out that as a carebear, I can't be bothered to schlep out to the provinces to build those fancy circus-sized flying penises that you folks enjoy so much. All I want is fleet upon fleet of subcaps exploding, death to all of the other carebears, and continued business from the terrible, teeming, timorous Goonswarm et al.
ISK is created by explosions.
Go create some more ISK for me, sport. |

Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy Caldari State
90
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:24:00 -
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Muletron McSlaverson wrote:Hi . . . I'm a coward . . . I like war . . . Goons always explode things . . . they're exploding my competitors . . . death to all . . . more ISK for me . . .
military industrial complex <- ??? |

Ludi Burek
Toilet Emergency JIHADASQUAD
242
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:30:00 -
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Isn't TEST a test alliance? As in they didn't want it anyway? |

floating in space
1
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Posted - 2013.06.12 03:38:00 -
[42] - Quote
I just bought 60 PLEX, hang in there TEST I will sell it then send you the ISK ASAP for the glory and honor of Reddit :3
|

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3665
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Posted - 2013.06.12 04:40:00 -
[43] - Quote
Ludi Burek wrote:Isn't TEST a test alliance? As in they didn't want it anyway? Don't worry so much about the details. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Gordon Esil
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
32
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:01:00 -
[44] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Ludi Burek wrote:Isn't TEST a test alliance? As in they didn't want it anyway? Don't worry so much about the details. So what are the details?  I know a goon won't tell me the details I want but whatever  |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
387
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:05:00 -
[45] - Quote
Gordon Esil wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Ludi Burek wrote:Isn't TEST a test alliance? As in they didn't want it anyway? Don't worry so much about the details. So what are the details?  I know a goon won't tell me the details I want but whatever 
Just regularly read www.themittani.com and you will have all the details you need to know. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1910
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:08:00 -
[46] - Quote
Not throwing ISK down a rathole.
TEST wants my cash? They need to show some staying power of their own. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
401
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:27:00 -
[47] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Gordon Esil wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Ludi Burek wrote:Isn't TEST a test alliance? As in they didn't want it anyway? Don't worry so much about the details. So what are the details?  I know a goon won't tell me the details I want but whatever  Just regularly read www.themittani.com and you will have all the details you need to know.
While your At it go to North Koreas website to see how nice it is.  An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
|

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3666
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:28:00 -
[48] - Quote
Gordon Esil wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Ludi Burek wrote:Isn't TEST a test alliance? As in they didn't want it anyway? Don't worry so much about the details. So what are the details?  I know a goon won't tell me the details I want but whatever  I actually don't know the details, I'm not in TEST. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Aletheia Aideron
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
8
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:42:00 -
[49] - Quote
Nice post OP, a bit long, but nice. Just remember to have fun. |

Gordon Esil
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
32
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:42:00 -
[50] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Gordon Esil wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Ludi Burek wrote:Isn't TEST a test alliance? As in they didn't want it anyway? Don't worry so much about the details. So what are the details?  I know a goon won't tell me the details I want but whatever  I actually don't know the details, I'm not in TEST. See I knew a goon won't tell me the details 
It is not a good idea either for me to read TMC... *it has a hidden brain-wash machine*
But I'll figure out the details and comeback here to enlighten the people who are still in the dark ages like me  |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
387
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:46:00 -
[51] - Quote
There is no brain-washing there. The news is of much higher quality than other Eve News sites. Plus, if you get tired of the articles, there are all sorts of compelling buttons on the right hand side to click on to leave the site and continue reading somewhere else. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

forgealt9000
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.06.12 05:52:00 -
[52] - Quote
Let's entertain the idea of a large number of high-sec benefactors bankrolling TEST, shall we? For one, it wouldn't happen: TEST grew under Goonswarm's wing; the average TEST member is not very different from the average Goon. TEST contributed a ton of numbers to 2012's Burn Jita, and even in 2013, despite no longer being within Goonswarm's sphere. The thought that a high-sec carebear has any more love for TEST than they do for Goonswarm is balderdash.
But let's set all of that aside and imagine that high-sec bankrolls TEST, and with their allies, they crush the CFC. Goonswarm and their allies would not cease to exist. Some alliances might dissolve, but their members would join other nullsec alliances, likely the ones that took their space. Many of them will continue to suicide gank in high-sec, only under a different alliance tag.
You also can't get bankrolled by such a large number of benefactors in secret, giving Goonswarm the best narrative to grief the carebears that directly funded their enemies. It doesn't help that they already hold contempt against high-sec carebears. ISK would not be a problem for them, simply because as the OP says, high-sec is the land of ISK - they can fund lol-ganking by ganking haulers. Goonswarm might not have the ISK to fund large events like Burn Jita, but nothing would stop a wealthy TEST from funding their own.
So, with that in mind, why would high-sec carebears fund TEST? |

Newt BlackCompany
Judge Enterprises Li3 Federation
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 07:09:00 -
[53] - Quote
Lol.
tl;dr : "It's all about isk, so give us your isk so we can fight goons."
Test is planning to fund this war from donations?
|

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3667
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 07:11:00 -
[54] - Quote
Newt BlackCompany wrote:Lol.
tl;dr : "It's all about isk, so give us your isk so we can fight goons."
Test is planning to fund this war from donations? It would appear. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
362
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 07:19:00 -
[55] - Quote
This reminds me of a situation where Worf used some magic technology to control Quark's movements in a bat'leth duel over the affections of a Klingon woman. It was pretty much proof that risk-averse charicatures of greed and indignant impotent rage can accomplish great things if you have a huge klingon warrior suffering from par'Mach controlling your movements, you might be able to overthrow a respected warrior, and maybe even get laid. |

Thev Sonata
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 07:36:00 -
[56] - Quote
NC. begging Highsec Players, who don't care or even like Nullsec players, for ISK to fund TEST because they welp tens of billions on fights they know they cant afford.
Seems legit. |

Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy Caldari State
92
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 07:45:00 -
[57] - Quote
Newt BlackCompany wrote:Lol.
Test is planning to fund this war from donations?
It's actually not as crazy as it sounds. |

TahDah Samael
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 07:59:00 -
[58] - Quote
It seem's Test is not only bad at pvp, but just as bad at making Isk to fly stuff to fight in! Yes donate to give us more stuff to kill please... I just watched them welp almost a whole talwar fleet. |

Jubal Late
State War Academy Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:03:00 -
[59] - Quote
Black is black.
Black is off-black.
Black is grey.
Black is light-grey.
Black is whte.
Conclusive proof that what you said in the OP is completely and utterly true! |

Stalker ofeveryone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:06:00 -
[60] - Quote
First TEST raffle off PLEX to get more to log in, NOW they have cap in hand begging for donations? That in itself proves which direction this war is going. I hear lowsec is very nice space to chill in, perfect for TEST. No bubbles, gate/station guns, they can stay docked ALL day with no worries. |

Gordon Esil
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
32
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:10:00 -
[61] - Quote
As far as I have seen, goons seem to spend more time on talking than fighting their war... Don't you goonies have some fleet to be in listening to your FC shouting at you? while you try to setup a fight with TEST?
... Oh I see, the last fight was "interrupted" by the sudden downtime so you had to break it... |

Thyra Tordentarm
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:13:00 -
[62] - Quote
At least you could've offered to sing a song or dance a dance or something for your carebear money.
That is what most beggars do, no? |

R0me0 Charl1e
Easy A Industries
67
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:24:00 -
[63] - Quote
High sec miners, don't forget to buy a mining permit. At 10 mil isk a year it's a great way to say, "I condone the bots in this game and support James 315 in ridding them out of the game."
It also has the benefit of keeping those pesky suicide gankers at bay as a permit tank is the best tank in high sec.
I am a certified Agent of the New Order and can process anyone who wants to buy a mining permit. So send me the 10 mil isk with "mining permit" in the reason section and you should be good to go. |

Zeus Zed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:46:00 -
[64] - Quote
So this really is a question of: Do we want players of the Goons type in our game?
For me no. No way.
They hold a third of space. They are arrogant and abusive. They bully everyone they feel like both on- and off-line. They make money for completely zero risk - which risk they force on every single HS miner or ratter. Nothing captures the essence of the Goon mentality better than the image of the leader. A bully of the worst sort, a drunk, a waste of space.
Saddest part, this is obviously ok with CCP personnel, yet another bunch of uncivilized, uneducated individuals, who value alcohol consumption more than character, manners and the low. Good news is that they start to realize that something's got to be done about Goons.
I do not intend to financially support anyone who I do not believe in what he or she is doing. I certainly do not believe in TEST; hell, their own members even don't believe in themselves and their corp. Yes TEST have an opportunity to put an end to the flow of crap called Goons, but there's nothing telling me that |

Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
266
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:49:00 -
[65] - Quote
You're looking at it from the wrong way. Every isk sent to me will go directly towards bribing someone not to fight.
RESULTS GUARANTEED. |

Gordon Esil
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
32
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:49:00 -
[66] - Quote
Zeus Zed wrote:So this really is a question of: Do we want players of the Goons type in our game?
For me no. No way.
They hold a third of space. They are arrogant and abusive. They bully everyone they feel like both on- and off-line. They make money for completely zero risk - which risk they force on every single HS miner or ratter. Nothing captures the essence of the Goon mentality better than the image of the leader. A bully of the worst sort, a drunk, a waste of space.
Saddest part, this is obviously ok with CCP personnel, yet another bunch of uncivilized, uneducated individuals, who value alcohol consumption more than character, manners and the low. Good news is that they start to realize that something's got to be done about Goons.
I do not intend to financially support anyone who I do not believe in what he or she is doing. I certainly do not believe in TEST; hell, their own members even don't believe in themselves and their corp. Yes TEST have an opportunity to put an end to the flow of crap called Goons, but there's nothing telling me that Maybe you are right about that, but remember, there are more people want goons disappearing, this is still at its beginning, you don't know what tomorrow can bring! |

Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
266
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:49:00 -
[67] - Quote
Zeus Zed wrote:They are arrogant and abusive. They bully everyone they feel like both on- and off-line. They make money for completely zero risk - which risk they force on every single HS miner or ratter. Nothing captures the essence of the Goon mentality better than the image of the leader. A bully of the worst sort, a drunk, a waste of space.
You don't actually know any goons, do you.
|

Kara Vix
Sanford and Son Salvage
128
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:52:00 -
[68] - Quote
Its academic to me if the Goons are there or not, if not them another large entity will emerge and the cycle will begin anew. The goons do get weird with their egocentricity but they are entertaining and have a passion for the game. Test, well I just prefer to ignore them altogether. Anyone who thinks hi seccers are going to influence either alliance or this war is silly, best just to get the popcorn out and cheer for whomever you prefer. |

silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1913
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 08:55:00 -
[69] - Quote
Kara Vix wrote: Test, well I just prefer to ignore them altogether. I see what you did there.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |

Richter Enderas
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
281
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 09:04:00 -
[70] - Quote
lol |

Gordon Esil
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
33
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 09:05:00 -
[71] - Quote
Kara Vix wrote:Test, well I just prefer to ignore them altogether. That did work pretty much on me tbh... I remember my very first day in EVE, someone showed me the alliance maps, and I saw Goons area, then I saw TEST area and I thought: wow so much for just a test alliance... AND I KEPT IGNORING THEM FOR A WHILE  |

Zeus Zed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 09:12:00 -
[72] - Quote
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Zeus Zed wrote:They are arrogant and abusive. They bully everyone they feel like both on- and off-line. They make money for completely zero risk - which risk they force on every single HS miner or ratter. Nothing captures the essence of the Goon mentality better than the image of the leader. A bully of the worst sort, a drunk, a waste of space. You don't actually know any goons, do you.
You are not worth even reading your messages, let alone replying to, but just to validate what I communicated above to anyone else interested: Yes, I very much know a number of Goons.
But really one must not necessarily know them first hand to see the obvious. It's the result of actions (goons' or anyone else's) that matter, and not whether they are "cool" and "nice guys" or not.
Someone once said, "you judge a tree by the fruit it bears", but this for Goons is a minor detail which they choose to selectively ignore. |

Elecktra Blue
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 09:14:00 -
[73] - Quote
Zeus Zed wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Zeus Zed wrote:They are arrogant and abusive. They bully everyone they feel like both on- and off-line. They make money for completely zero risk - which risk they force on every single HS miner or ratter. Nothing captures the essence of the Goon mentality better than the image of the leader. A bully of the worst sort, a drunk, a waste of space. You don't actually know any goons, do you. You are not worth even reading your messages, let alone replying to, but just to validate what I communicated above to anyone else interested: Yes, I very much know a number of Goons. But really one must not necessarily know them first hand to see the obvious. It's the result of actions (goons' or anyone else's) that matter, and not whether they are "cool" and "nice guys" or not. Someone once said, "you judge a tree by the fruit it bears", but this for Goons is a minor detail which they choose to selectively ignore.
My parents have a grapefruit tree in their yard. Its very lovely. |

Naomi Kurosa
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 09:31:00 -
[74] - Quote
How does that saying go again?
"A fool and his sov are soon parted?"
or was it
"I'll gladly reimburse you tuesday, for a ship you lose today"
I can never remember. |

MotherSammy
Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords
33
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 09:52:00 -
[75] - Quote
R0me0 Charl1e wrote:High sec miners, don't forget to buy a mining permit. At 10 mil isk a year it's a great way to say, "I condone the bots in this game and support James 315 in ridding them out of the game."
You need to look up the word 'condone'.
|

Prince of Nigeria
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 10:00:00 -
[76] - Quote
I'm sorry you're losing the war so horribly that you have to ask the carebears for help. Maybe you should try learning how to fight, and how to not suddenly leave a coalition like a bunch of whiny babies? You might be in a better position if you tried one that. |

HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
565
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 10:06:00 -
[77] - Quote
we under-estimated hisec, maybe next we'll just estimate them Follow me on twitter |

Jade Nomad
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 10:34:00 -
[78] - Quote
Very nice scam thread <3 |

Gealbhan
272
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 10:54:00 -
[79] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA
No. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
240
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 11:15:00 -
[80] - Quote
]Zeus Zed wrote:: Yes, I very much know a number of Goons.
To know them is to love them is to know them
Those who know them, love them
Those who dont know them
Love them
From afar
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1327
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 11:21:00 -
[81] - Quote
Or, what I could do is wait a couple of weeks then wardec TEST and kill their fleeing refugees as the evac to highsec. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
242
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 11:24:00 -
[82] - Quote
Vimsy Vortis wrote:Or, what I could do is wait a couple of weeks then wardec TEST and kill their fleeing refugees as the evac to highsec.
Refugees you say?
Gods I love refugees
So defenseless, so terrified
*tongue hanging out Homer Simpson style* aawwwhhhmmmmmmmmmm Refugees "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
401
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 11:25:00 -
[83] - Quote
Vimsy Vortis wrote:Or, what I could do is wait a couple of weeks then wardec TEST and kill their fleeing refugees as the evac to highsec.
There's no time like the present.
Test is like the little country that starts a great war. Of course, I'd rather you get rid of the evil Goons instead, but whatever. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Helfeln Meathead
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 11:27:00 -
[84] - Quote
Charles Case wrote:1 bill sent 1 bill smoked |

Gordon Esil
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
33
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 11:29:00 -
[85] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Or, what I could do is wait a couple of weeks then wardec TEST and kill their fleeing refugees as the evac to highsec. There's no time like the present. Test is like the little country that starts a great war. Of course, I'd rather you get rid of the evil Goons instead, but whatever. Are you anti-goon Mr. Erotica? (even if you have a lady avatar, but whatever) It seems I need to change my opinion about you and maybe send you some isk to double it for me! (I don't know why I thought you to be gooni...) - but whatever again  |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
243
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 11:41:00 -
[86] - Quote
Gordon Esil wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Or, what I could do is wait a couple of weeks then wardec TEST and kill their fleeing refugees as the evac to highsec. There's no time like the present. Test is like the little country that starts a great war. Of course, I'd rather you get rid of the evil Goons instead, but whatever. Are you anti-goon Mr. Erotica? (even if you have a lady avatar, but whatever) It seems I need to change my opinion about you and maybe send you some isk to double it for me!  (I don't know why I thought you to be gooni...) - but whatever again 
Im not anti-Goon but I am Anti-TEST Ms. Gordon
Can I have some donations too?
"You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Stalker ofeveryone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 11:41:00 -
[87] - Quote
I think the highsec players have been reading too many conspiracy theories surrounding 'goons' being 'EEEEVIL!', It's good fun though, even flying through empire in a shuttle I get "OMG LOOK OUT IT'S A GOON!" in local chat, in a 1.0 system... |

Kamoze
UK Corp RAZOR Alliance
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 11:49:00 -
[88] - Quote
Little Miss Muffet, sat on a tuffet, Eating her curds and whey; Along came a spider, Who sat down beside her And frightened Miss Muffet away.
|

DreznicK
OORt Cloud Research The OORT Cloud
1
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 11:51:00 -
[89] - Quote
Stalker ofeveryone wrote:I think the highsec players have been reading too many conspiracy theories surrounding 'goons' being 'EEEEVIL!', It's good fun though, even flying through empire in a shuttle I get "OMG LOOK OUT IT'S A GOON!" in local chat, in a 1.0 system...
Hmm how many high-sec systems are there ? I think you could place a goon in every system. That would be a lot of AFK cloakers causing mass panic just by being there 
And then Test could do the same thing and everyone would be happy cause Test could protect everyone by just being there  And then they need to smack talk in local as to who is going to uncloak first 
And to round it all out there needs to be some Benny Hill music playing in the background  |

Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
9128
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 11:52:00 -
[90] - Quote
I'm sure TEST have enough highsec alts that are positively rolling in ISK, to supplement their war chest themselves.
Muletron McSlaverson wrote:War is good for business and business is good
I eat your hatred for breakfast, then wash it down with your tears. |

Amelia Ryan
Aliastra Gallente Federation
9
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 12:28:00 -
[91] - Quote
OP, where do you get the idea that highsec even remotely cares about the current state of nullsec or is even at all organised.
Loads of them are just nullsec alts, loads of them are newbies who are looking to eventually join nullsec and know nothing Jon Snow about the politics, the rest of them just don't give a flying ****.
Of course everything is about isk, highsec is about the individual wanting to make isk on their own terms. And spending isk to hopefully overthrow some nullsec coalition which at best would just be reformed under another name is probably the most stupid investment you can ever make in EVE. |

Gordon Esil
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
34
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 12:33:00 -
[92] - Quote
Amelia Ryan wrote:OP, where do you get the idea that highsec even remotely cares about the current state of nullsec or is even at all organised.
Loads of them are just nullsec alts, loads of them are newbies who are looking to eventually join nullsec and know nothing Jon Snow about the politics, the rest of them just don't give a flying ****.
Of course everything is about isk, highsec is about the individual wanting to make isk on their own terms. And spending isk to hopefully overthrow some nullsec coalition which at best would just be reformed under another name is probably the most stupid investment you can ever make in EVE. I fully support this!
I know my carebear-ish alt and other few guys who don't give a **** about what is going on in 0.0 But it is funny to watch 2 big bears kill each other specially if you already want one of them to fall  |

Maoye Simalia
Ecstasy Of Gold Corp
0
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 13:26:00 -
[93] - Quote
Amelia Ryan wrote: Of course everything is about isk, highsec is about the individual wanting to make isk on their own terms. And spending isk to hopefully overthrow some nullsec coalition which at best would just be reformed under another name is probably the most stupid investment you can ever make in EVE.
You said that very well, and I agree. I don't see any difference between these two alliances. They are just two sides of the same coin. |

BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
234
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 13:52:00 -
[94] - Quote
We all have the same risk in this ecosystem. With that being said... groups with motivation, organization and capability are rarely at risk in relation to the other players in the same game.
These are three things the CFC has - that most other players don't
Good luck. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |

S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
7
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 14:20:00 -
[95] - Quote
OP is a stealth goon right? Morale cascade via propaganda > isk and all that jazz? You gotta spell this **** out for us carebears; the three levels of sarcasm in every post is confusing. |

Pinky Feldman
NO MOAR TEARS I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
555
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 16:02:00 -
[96] - Quote
I am so mad at goons right now, but unfortunately the ISK i would use to donate to this noble cause was STOLEN by goon scammers in the form of a 500m recruitment fee.
I don't know how I could have been so stupid to fall for such a scam, but it is not a mistake I will ever make again and once I sell some ships I will make goons pay for their lies by donating as much as I can to support test.
The moar you cry the less you pee |

Dame Lanfear
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
4
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 16:06:00 -
[97] - Quote
It seems to me that both the goons and test want to destroy hi sec, so why should we care if they destroy each other. Good riddance to whoever dies first. |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
255
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 16:07:00 -
[98] - Quote
Pinky Feldman wrote:I am so mad at goons right now, but unfortunately the ISK i would use to donate to this noble cause was STOLEN by goon scammers in the form of a 500m recruitment fee.
I don't know how I could have been so stupid to fall for such a scam, but it is not a mistake I will ever make again and once I sell some ships I will make goons pay for their lies by donating as much as I can to support test.
Yup this definately happened
I am sorry for your loss
Why not petition to have it returned?
Here's the people who will sort your problem for you
https://eu.battle.net/support/en/ "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
255
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 16:08:00 -
[99] - Quote
Stalker ofeveryone wrote:I think the highsec players have been reading too many conspiracy theories surrounding 'goons' being 'EEEEVIL!', It's good fun though, even flying through empire in a shuttle I get "OMG LOOK OUT IT'S A GOON!" in local chat, in a 1.0 system...
*hug* "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
Tell The Others |

Gordon Esil
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
34
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 16:18:00 -
[100] - Quote
Ramona McCandless wrote:Stalker ofeveryone wrote:I think the highsec players have been reading too many conspiracy theories surrounding 'goons' being 'EEEEVIL!', It's good fun though, even flying through empire in a shuttle I get "OMG LOOK OUT IT'S A GOON!" in local chat, in a 1.0 system... *hug* *no_hug*  |

flakeys
Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation
1169
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 16:23:00 -
[101] - Quote
Because TEST has allways stood up for the high-sec folk and totally is nothing like a goons ...
It's like going to the doctor and he tells you '' ok the bad news is we gotta remove one eye , the good news is you get to choose wich eye '''
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
|

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
408
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 16:42:00 -
[102] - Quote
Pinky Feldman wrote:I am so mad at goons right now, but unfortunately the ISK i would use to donate to this noble cause was STOLEN by goon scammers in the form of a 500m recruitment fee.
I don't know how I could have been so stupid to fall for such a scam, but it is not a mistake I will ever make again and once I sell some ships I will make goons pay for their lies by donating as much as I can to support test.
There is a thread in Crime and Punishment that will help you resolve this matter. See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Jedediah Arndtz
Not Another Acronym
13
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 20:16:00 -
[103] - Quote
I've seen a fair number of TESTes ganking incursion runners, so I'm pretty sure the hate for hisec is present with you too. |

Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
265
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 20:19:00 -
[104] - Quote
You know what you should do? Grab a ship and head out and try to horse on some killmails. Pick a side, doesn't matter who. Fire at the biggest thing on the field. Fire at as many things as you can on the field. Die. Check your pilot stats on eve-kill the next day....let the e-peen flow through you! |

Stalker ofeveryone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 20:22:00 -
[105] - Quote
By the way, neither Goons or TEST are going anywhere, study the sov map hard and you will find out why. |

Mark Rain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
13
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 20:28:00 -
[106] - Quote
This plan sounds like a welfare program and isk sink to me....queue the flushing sound, bonzai!
Darwin is rolling in the grave. |
|

ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
69

|
Posted - 2013.06.12 20:45:00 -
[107] - Quote
Thread has been moved to Corporation, Alliance & Organization Discussions. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
|

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
421
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 21:04:00 -
[108] - Quote
ISD Tyrozan wrote:Thread has been moved to Corporation, Alliance & Organization Discussions.
I understand the rationale behind such a move. But keep in mind, these threads are directed toward people of high sec in general, and not toward a particular corporation, alliance, or organization.
Just my 2 isk. I still love you guys! See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |

Darth Kilth
Silver Guardians Fidelas Constans
110
|
Posted - 2013.06.12 21:40:00 -
[109] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:ISD Tyrozan wrote:Thread has been moved to Corporation, Alliance & Organization Discussions. I understand the rationale behind such a move. But keep in mind, these threads are directed toward people of high sec in general, and not toward a particular corporation, alliance, or organization. Just my 2 isk. I still love you guys! We all know these threads are really meant for the Hi-sec alts of rich 0.0 players.
The average pure Hi-sec person doesn't give two ***** which side of this war looses, as far as they know they both scam and gank as much as the other. |

Jyuno Terkar
Strange Arrangement
2
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Posted - 2013.06.14 01:01:00 -
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The better way to do this would be to give some incentive for sending the ISK. Something akin to a Warbond, pics of which have come up a couple times in the thread, would do more than a plea for aid from pilots that don't have any investment in the events of Null.
Give us something to work with. You're not going to get ISK in the amounts you want/need if you don't provide some serious mass appeal to do so. |

Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
515
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Posted - 2013.06.14 03:11:00 -
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How's this working out guys? Please keep me updated. |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1760
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Posted - 2013.06.14 04:01:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:How's this working out guys? Please keep me updated.
I saw a thousand man untanked mackinaw fleet sieging VFK earlier. It's true. This is the end.
~fin~ |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3680
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Posted - 2013.06.14 05:49:00 -
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Darth Kilth wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:ISD Tyrozan wrote:Thread has been moved to Corporation, Alliance & Organization Discussions. I understand the rationale behind such a move. But keep in mind, these threads are directed toward people of high sec in general, and not toward a particular corporation, alliance, or organization. Just my 2 isk. I still love you guys! We all know these threads are really meant for the Hi-sec alts of rich 0.0 players. The average pure Hi-sec person doesn't give two ***** which side of this war looses, as far as they know they both scam and gank as much as the other. I'm oretty sure we do.
Though one side might be better at it. Or classier~ I am a nullsec zealot. |
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