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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2005.11.22 12:21:00 -
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Another Xetic revisionist...
Quote: Omist region was a primary defence of 0.0 assets in the above listed regions. In those Fleets I did not see a DDC or a CLS pilot defend those regions as hard as the smaller corporations.
Dead wrong. Omist was not the primary region of interest. At best, Omist had some REDs running around. Feyt was under siege from MASS and friends and -5-.
Quote: We were told by Cyvok they needed to defend their territory. Impass and Feyth were never under as heavy siege durring the final war of Xetic as the other regions, the heavy assaults came to Immensea/Tene/Omist.
Utterly clueless. MASS and co made claim for feyt. So in addition to -5-, there was many other corps there fighting Xetic that were simply not in any of the other regions. Immensea was under heavy siege also by -5- but from memory it was largely lost from the onset. The bulk of the fighting occured in Feyt. This is obvious since CLS and DDC had most of the kills and ironically, MASS in the end, took your soft Omist.
Quote: Today:
Self serving interests on the part of ASCN's foundings have now come full circle. "Treachery" as Cyvok has stated is just a matter of side your on and oppertunity for another. ASCN took the "oppertunity" to save their hides durring the last Xetic war. To others like myself that was treachery. In this case to ASCN this is backstabbing, but to G/IRON this is oppertunity.
ASCN Corps represented most of those fighting. This is very evident as Xetic was totally and utterly incapable of even holding a single region after the split (so much for 5000 players - ASCN). This is the main reason why ASCN decided to shed the dead weight. Had Xetic managed to hold a region after the split, even a single one or even put up a reasonable fight, since it still outnumbered -5-, I'd be a lot more understanding. The lazy claim betrayal...well, alot of people felt betrayed when thousands upon thousands of xetic members did nothing to help in the war.
I should add that ASCN still had a war with MASS and friends after the split for Feyt which it won.
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What to do?
To the corporations and members of ASCN who have no idea what my post is about, and before you bash it, this is what alot of ppl saw happen and the excuses we were told. I suggest you re-evaluate your choice in leadership you have been following, in times of war real leaders begin to show themselves and false ones take the credit and hide.
There is not many places left to run and hide behind now, however can always make a new alliance and cut and run once more...
Considering how utterly wrong some of your information is, I'll pass on your offer of wisdom.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.11.22 13:04:00 -
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Primer, you're arguing with a one month old alt 
and well, exceptionnaly, I'm not in the mood of discussing your facts  I'll just remind you one thing: who wanted the war against [5] in the first place ? And who made all the mistakes leading to that war while cutting XF from all its potential backup ?
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2005.11.22 14:33:00 -
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its all fine and dandy
and I even understand that it came as a "suprise" to most of the simple members in ASCN
things not to do:
- dont tell things like: "..we bring in our elite pvp`ers" in a meeting that is held in a friendly tone - dont make deals for SA+FIX if you havent even spoken to them - dont fly a 100 ships in front of our pilots, who are packing to leave - dont post MOD like "we will drive them out of the south" if the deal was about "them" leaving in peace - dont double date, if your not absolutly sure that you can handle both of appointments - dont act so surprised, if you bring nada of your side of the deal and it wont work out the way you planed it ( and please stop reminding us, that we should stick to our part).
To put it simple:
I agree that getting shot by "blue" guys is not nice, but f**** around with a pvp force right in front of you might lead to strange behaviour.
Your leaders acted a bit premature to declare our war as over - on ASCN terms. We entered the talking in good faith, but tbh ASCN is nowhere a force to dictate us what to do and where to move.
All your little ISKies cant buy a pleasant time for your carebSring ants in 0.0 at that time - prepare for the inevitable (and stop to argueing on the boards for heavens sake)
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.11.22 17:22:00 -
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Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |

Acwron
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Posted - 2005.11.22 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
quoted to make sure you don't edit it.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.11.22 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
you didn't get banned already ? 
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.11.22 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
Dude are you stupid or something :\
- Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius) |

Uggster
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Posted - 2005.11.22 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
Dude are you stupid or something :\
What he said.....
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2005.11.22 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
NBSI has not been south in force yet. We might do that but we don't like taking credit for things other people do without us, stealing the spotlights is not nice 
That thing aside,talking like that about a predominantly German group like G is a bit,to put it mildy,overstepping some sensitive boundaries.
If you want WWII analogies though,i can give you some for ASCN: Quisling (spelling?) government,Vichy collaborator state,Manchukuo state in Japanese-occupied manchuria etc,etc...
There's 2 sides two a coin,but there should be no double standards. Admit you did what was best for yourselves when you tore XF to pieces,and realise that others will do the same at your expense. Failure to grasp that simple fact is failure to understand fundamental politics. There is no good and evil,there is only someone's best interest.
Good luck to G/Iron/Razor and have fun to all.
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Chucky
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Posted - 2005.11.22 18:42:00 -
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AS I said, history isn't taught anymore. ASCN focus was building, not conquering. But like a quote from your famous leader "tell a lie enough times, it becomes the truth"
... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |
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HonorHarrington
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Posted - 2005.11.22 18:56:00 -
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Just to be clear. I do not in any way speak for ASCN.However, I know that most/all people in ASCN would find these statements offensive and does not in endorse them.
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DANGEROUS
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Posted - 2005.11.22 19:02:00 -
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Well what a very bland thread. I am not politically minded, imo anyone who crosses my path gets into my sights one day. It sounds very much like the ASCN are getting just desserts. As far as stating that G/Iron have stabbed them in the back, it is my full belief that we are viewed as one of the most honorable alliances ingame. It sounds from this thread that there are many many many ex friends of the ASCN corps that have plenty of evidence that unlike us - ASCN are utterly untrustworthy (their leadership i mean). On a personal note, it is very sad that we now have blues (SE) in the south, it used to be open game south of HED - it it wasnt blue kill it, now theres SO many blues and so very FEW reds and neutrals. dam shame that is. Regarding the ascn pilots, indeed all the non 5 pilots that i have fought in the last few months. With few exceptions i have found my 'hostiles' to be very agreeable in local. rarely have i had s##t spouted endlessly (unlike most of 5 and bob). I dont really care what reason the powers that be have to invade a region, what i do know is that IRON is a force to be reckoned with. questions have been asked of us time and time again, and i rarely recall situations where we havent responded aggressivley, decisivly and victoriously. G - what can i say - these guys are simply described as technicians. they are german ffs. vorsprung duch technik and all that, the set ups they run are calcualated, tested, tested again, practiced and then used in battle. their coordiantion in application is trully a display of art. G complments Iron as we do it. we are brothers in arms and should we knock on ur door - - know that we will knock that door down if you do not respond fairly and with thought. I am a VERY proud member of an honorable alliance, that creates its own path that is yet to end in anything other than glory.
This post is my personal opinion and does not reflect teh beliefs of teh management for whihc i am not part.
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:01:00 -
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I am not sure what is wrong with Chucksor. Ignore his post as it doesn't represent -G- or a fraction of it. We will deal with it internally.
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Arekuwa
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:06:00 -
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Nothing wrong with Chuckz0r... Chucky now, on the other hand... 
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heyjoe52
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:14:00 -
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i think chucky just needs a little hug, spent to much time relating eve to real life military events which is not against the EULA or something brought up in the 4s/SAS corp naming. But yeah ban it, lol
i really have problems being called the new **** germany. im a pirate only 
I have a fever, and the only thing that cure it... is more cowbell! |

Marcsen
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: SaorAlba I am not sure what is wrong with Chucksor. Ignore his post as it doesn't represent -G- or a fraction of it. We will deal with it internally.
Chucks0r, the ASW Member, is in no way affiliated with this Chucky dude.
Chucky is part of ASCN, and i wonder why he hasn't gotten his ass kicked from ASCN and Eve for his H**l H*t**r comment and the above statement. Multiple petitions were filed concerning the case and nothing is being done. 
Chucky: End yourself you fascist piece of ****. No one in Eve bloody needs you.
Have a good day, Marcsen
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Chrony
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Chrony on 22/11/2005 20:26:23
Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
1. Dude... didnt you learn anything from the reactions your eve mail to a G member caused in the other thread?
2. This is a game, keep RL stuff out of this. Do you want to say that all germans are ****s and racists? Cus if you are, you are a bigger idiot than all those alts on the corp and alliance forum together.
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2005.11.22 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
you better hope you stay docked during every engagement as you WILL be killed and podded Every time.
and i suggest to your alliance to remove you, not only are you an idiot but your an idiot that dosn't even know it. if you are still in ascn in a few days what little respect i still retain will be lost. and you will burn even worse,
fool
---------------------------------- "Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move earth." Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:14:00 -
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Dont compare one ascn member with their whole alliance.
While this comment is unacceptable, we heard alot worse things in our eve time than this.
Petitions never did anything in those cases and im sure they never will.
Just use the block function, its saving u some heart attacks 
Sadly it cannot be used on the forums...
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon |

raistalin
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
That is the worst thing I've ever read on this board, which is saying alot.
Sincere apologies to G.
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Gyro DuAquin1 on 22/11/2005 21:30:32
Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
I dont blame ascn for anything, but this comment is just bs, some smack may be ok. TBH i hope that this is the end of ur employment with ASCN.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 Edited by: Gyro DuAquin1 on 22/11/2005 21:30:32
Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
I dont blame ascn for anything, but this comment is just bs, some smack may be ok. TBH i hope that this is the end of ur employment with ASCN.
already asked for that.
sincere apologies to G -------------------
Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you |

grizouh
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Posted - 2005.11.22 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Dont compare one ascn member with their whole alliance.
While this comment is unacceptable, we heard alot worse things in our eve time than this.
Petitions never did anything in those cases and im sure they never will.
(normally i donŠt like oneword posts without an own opinion but: )
/signed
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Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2005.11.22 22:05:00 -
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Please do not believe that what Chucky says is in any way the position of ASCN. Such racist and blatantly disrespectful comments are NOT condoned by our alliance, and I'm quite certain he will be dealt with appropriately. I sincerely apologize to anyone who as offended by his comment. I'm really embarassed to be in the same alliance as this guy. 
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Originally by: riker to thebold first post w/ your main.
Soft and Crunchy 4tw! \o/ |

hired goon
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Posted - 2005.11.22 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
You want to stfu mate. -omg-
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DANGEROUS
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Posted - 2005.11.22 22:21:00 -
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guys - i would just request that all of us drop this topic of that morons statement that people are cutting and pasting again and again. - - just stop it. - we all know what we think of it. - no comments are required. History for EVErY nationality playing this game is tainted with one wrong or another. and heaven forbide we start talking about the present or the future. this is an UNREAL environment, lets never bring to much REAL into it. - now back to the topic of the thread.
no one sees fit to comment on my fantasticly frank post earlier???
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John McCreedy
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Posted - 2005.11.22 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived.
Chucky, on behalf of the overwhleming majority of ASCN - STFU!
Make a Difference
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Blue Max
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Posted - 2005.11.22 22:24:00 -
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I agree with COASTERBRIAN. A very regretable choice of words by Chucky. I do not support them. Apologies to all. ~BLUE MAX, AWECO DIRECTOR, ASCN
"Maybe today is a good day to die." (Worf), Star Trek First Contact
Disclaimer: Views expressed are soley mine and do not represent my corp nor alliance.
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.11.22 22:48:00 -
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Edited by: Demarcus on 22/11/2005 22:48:34 Don't kick him out of the game just tell us who his main is. I don't think he would end up wanting to play much longer. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2005.11.22 22:59:00 -
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Public appoligy to ASW and Chucksor, who I mistakenly held for Chucky. I am very glad it turned out I need new reading glasses.
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