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Jin'Roh	Posted - 2005.11.22 23:03:00 - [151] Edited by: Jin''Roh on 22/11/2005 23:03:25 dont want to interrupt ascn apologies... but you should think about the station name in azn-d2... jin
AfterShock	Posted - 2005.11.22 23:21:00 - [152] Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. Apparently this was not a very well thought statement to make on the open forum considering the reaction caused. but i dont think there was any racist reasoning behind his post. I looked up "AXIS Armed Forces in WWII" and could only find it to be German military of some sort? Anyway, I apologize for any ill feelings this may have caused whoever, and hopefully will get Chucky back here to apologize (if this thread dies not get locked).javascript:insertsmilie('','WebPost','text');
Sypher313	Posted - 2005.11.22 23:32:00 - [153] hmm Chucky = Dork waste of bandwidth anyway moving along....... Dangerous, sure i'll give you a reply hmm, now what did you say? hmmm..... oh yeah... ok Yeah good post and welcome back dood
Voltron	Posted - 2005.11.23 00:28:00 - [154] Just so no one thinks NBSI is trying to steal G/IRON/RAZORS credit...while we would LOVE to be part of the pwnage down south atm, we unfortunately are not atm. Hopefully soonTM. And Chucky......get a clue......get an education, GED by mail ftw for you I hope. Volt
VonKaplanek III	Posted - 2005.11.23 00:56:00 - [155] Originally by: Coasterbrian Please do not believe that what Chucky says is in any way the position of ASCN. Such racist and blatantly disrespectful comments are NOT condoned by our alliance, and I'm quite certain he will be dealt with appropriately. I sincerely apologize to anyone who as offended by his comment. I'm really embarassed to be in the same alliance as this guy. What he said... and I'm responding to this comment posted earlier: "ASCN are utterly untrustworthy (their leadership i mean)." Then you dont know our leadership...
Chucky	Posted - 2005.11.23 01:22:00 - [156] My views donÆt represent ASCN or CoRM, they are mine alone and clearly misunderstood. I apologize and will stay out of the forums. ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
ArcticFox	Posted - 2005.11.23 11:14:00 - [157] Originally by: Voltron while we would LOVE to be part of the pwnage down south atm, we unfortunately are not atm. Ah, planning to finish 'pwning' [5] first to finish off that pesky simplicity of your mission statement, eh? Sorry, I really really couldn't resist. I'm sure anyone who is down in the trenches down south here can see that there really hasn't been much movement in either direction yet (I don't mean there hasn't been fighting, but the fighting isn't moving in any discernable direction). ---------------------------------- "There's no +6 Sword of WTFPWN in Eve." - Er... Some person on the forum...

Eshtir	Posted - 2005.11.23 15:20:00 - [158] This thread has been cleaned. For the future, i would like to see you mailing us at [email protected] if you find a post that breaks the Forum Rules. Also a quick reminder, this id an in character forum section. No Out of character posts and no real life politics and history please. -Eshtir forum rules \| [email protected]

Plazmalord Soban	Posted - 2005.11.25 20:20:00 - [159] Im kinda interested in this "deal" that ASCN was supposed to have given to SE to take Omist from the corporations who were founding Knights of the SouthernCross who have lived there since Xetic and SA. If any of you have any documented proof of this contact me in game. Thank you.
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.11.25 21:06:00 - [160] Edited by: Grimpak on 25/11/2005 21:06:45 Originally by: Plazmalord Soban Im kinda interested in this "deal" that ASCN was supposed to have given to SE to take Omist from the corporations who were founding Knights of the SouthernCross who have lived there since Xetic and SA. If any of you have any documented proof of this contact me in game. Thank you. ..if you are talking about the station taking in Omist, it's pretty simple actually: MASS had the stations in Omist (afaik?). Then after the SA-SE civil war started, ASCN leadership, to avoid battles between both factions inside ASCN space, decided to take Omist as a protectorate and close down the region for the duration of the conflict. The region was to be returned when we had a clear view of who won the war and all that. War raged on and when we saw SA was having the upper hand so we returned the region to SA. ...might not be the most correct one, but I think it's rather accurate. about the KOS alliance, i'm sorry, but besides the part of seeing the post in the corp, alliance and organizations discussion section, it's the first time I ever heard from such alliance. ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
fire 59	Posted - 2005.11.26 08:48:00 - [161] Do me a favour in regards to the xetic crap you talking about, do some homework and get your facts straight yeah, knowledge is a powerful thing, try it
Plazmalord Soban	Posted - 2005.11.26 22:36:00 - [162] Edited by: Plazmalord Soban on 26/11/2005 22:41:00 Grimpak that was not the agreement i was talking about. I am talking about the time that when the people who were in SA who lived in OMIST after ASCN marched in decided to leave SA to pursue their own alliance to only find SE forces namely Xenobytes and Species in our space along with an ASCN scout the very day after Orgs had contacted CYVOK to let him know what we were doin in advance. That was the Deal between SE and ASCN i was refering to. The Fact that ASCN didnt acknowledge KOS as an alliance and allowed SE forces to move in to our space by traveling thru their space. Thats the kinda crap i was refering to. The other crap incident in which u came in to our Region with a 150 pilot fleet and claimed and shot down anyone u saw because we(SA)had decided to go to war with SE and used your space to get to Stain. All of SA was told that we had clearance to travel to get to Paragon Soul and apparently that wasnt cool. So u guys come in and took our region .. "Holding it" for the victor of the SE SA conflict. that matter is close and was handed back just as ASCN said they would. "The deal that was mentioned above by IRON and G was the deal that SE can now have omist cause SA isnt there anymore....." Well.... Now SE got their butts kicked on about every level out here by a bunch of Carebears From KOS. Now KOS wants to know Why SE was given access to Omist in the first place. And who in your heirarchy made that decision. The people down here have honored your right to control your space the way you want and gone thru every formal channel to make sure we remain "Good Neighbors". I personally have even offered to come help when one night Burn Eden forced all of your pilots to dock in Feyth..... Then SE come here... and we ask ASCN if they can send any support for a few days and what is the reply we get ... "SE is not our Problem" If u want Omist fight for it. Well we did and we won. Contact me in game if u want to discuss the matter. But there are alot of upset people down in the Southern region of Omist who feellike ASCN basically allowed an agreesive force come here and lock us out of our stations etc. Just looking for some answers... no more lies.
Philyus	Posted - 2005.11.27 01:56:00 - [163] Edited by: Philyus on 27/11/2005 02:00:09 Plazmalord, we had a NAP with SE. SA broke off and we said that the NAP applied to both parties. Were we suppose to break the NAP with SE so we could "protect" the new guys? As far as I know, no agreement was made with you guys. No mutual defense, no +7.5 status. You guys are not SE or SA. I am not exactly sure why you guys feel like you are entitled to us helping you defend your region. Our policy from the beginning has been "if you want your region, fight for it." Even when we held omist, we wanted SA and SE to fight to decide who would control the stain territory. Congradulations on captuing your stations, glad you took our advice. You still won't get jack form us unless you negociate it. The deal that you speak of has been in place even before Xetic. It is nothing new that we don't shoot SE and are set to a perminate +5. -------------------- I am easily confused. Leave me alone!
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.11.27 23:04:00 - [164] Originally by: Plazmalord Soban Just looking for some answers... no more lies. Originally by: Philyus Edited by: Philyus on 27/11/2005 02:00:09 Plazmalord, we had a NAP with SE. SA broke off and we said that the NAP applied to both parties. Were we suppose to break the NAP with SE so we could "protect" the new guys? As far as I know, no agreement was made with you guys. No mutual defense, no +7.5 status. You guys are not SE or SA. I am not exactly sure why you guys feel like you are entitled to us helping you defend your region. Our policy from the beginning has been "if you want your region, fight for it." Even when we held omist, we wanted SA and SE to fight to decide who would control the stain territory. Congradulations on captuing your stations, glad you took our advice. You still won't get jack form us unless you negociate it. The deal that you speak of has been in place even before Xetic. It is nothing new that we don't shoot SE and are set to a perminate +5. Philyus answered that. And I'm sorry about not being able to contact you ingame. Atm i'm taking a break from EVE. However, I remind you that i'm no diplomat, so if you wish more clarifications about it, use our forums at this place. Diplomatic contacts with the leadership can be arranged there. ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
Roxanne	Posted - 2005.11.28 08:35:00 - [165] Originally by: Philyus The deal that you speak of has been in place even before Xetic. It is nothing new that we don't shoot SE and are set to a perminate +5. Originally by: CYVOK ASCN members will engage anyone who enters ASCN territory. We will try to avoid shooting "Blue" Allies that stray into ASCN Space, but no guarantees until the current situation is resolved. So the 'no fly zone' does not apply to SE?
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.11.28 10:16:00 - [166] Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Philyus The deal that you speak of has been in place even before Xetic. It is nothing new that we don't shoot SE and are set to a perminate +5. Originally by: CYVOK ASCN members will engage anyone who enters ASCN territory. We will try to avoid shooting "Blue" Allies that stray into ASCN Space, but no guarantees until the current situation is resolved. So the 'no fly zone' does not apply to SE? think the announcement was made AFTER your incident. Not sure tho. ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
meneolaos Hek	Posted - 2005.11.28 10:40:00 - [167] i think the time is over for hymnes about what you gonna do and what you alliance in this game is going to do. G/IRON and Razor are overwelm you in a swift, you are not outnumbered or outgunned - you easily outskilled by strategic and logistical aspects! eve means more than placing bubbles on the gate, take the station with 50ships, build outpost and penetrate ships crossing sectors under your control - eve is not only tactical short term "search and kill", eve is strategical. you gonna have fun with close borders a play the badboys pirate style, if you smart enough and good enough. but guess now you learn your lesson, your are not as half as clever as you thought, you are not as half as skilled as you thought, you are not as half as organized as you thought. all this threads, all this posts - "well G crashed that node, G outnumbered us there bla bla bla" - nothing but facts that you lost your face, you are no longer a respected alliance in the game, you are nothing more than targets in the days after this! welcome to the world of real strategic gameplay, welcome to your armageddon ASCN! abandon all hope.
insuperable	Posted - 2005.11.28 10:46:00 - [168] Quote: Dead wrong. Omist was not the primary region of interest. At best, Omist had some REDs running around. Feyt was under siege from MASS and friends and -5-. I agree omist wasnt. Feyth was under heavy attack from "The coallition" aka Mass + co. However Immensea was the other region under heavy conflict from -5-. Tene/Omist was under attack from RA, but it wasnt anywhere near as bad as feyth + imm. When e8-y had been lost the immensea inhabitants fought hard and tried to hold z-h2ma and 2o-eew at all costs. However when target painters were released the stations changed hands alot quicker and eventually ALL were lost. It wasnt until we had nothing in immensea except the PH pos where imm inhabitants were taking refuge, that we got an ounce of help from anyone else. However each region in XF should have had its own defence force hence the regional def channels that existed. The reason why XF could no longer defend itself was down to the 'bandwagonning' effect caused by the ASCN split. We stated that we would leave XF if certain things didnt change about 2 weeks prior to actually leaving. With ASCN I only found out as it happened. I dont think anyone was given any prior warning. Interesting... Gallery
Rhodry Amarrian	Posted - 2005.11.28 12:00:00 - [169] Originally by: meneolaos Hek welcome to the world of real strategic gameplay, welcome to your armageddon ASCN! abandon all hope. Well, I am not sure what your issue with ASCN is, but it seems to me that ASCN is trying to play the game in a strategic manner, with the creation of outposts and population centres, trying to do somethign more than just being yet another roaming pvp alliance. Anyone can do what G/IRON are presently doing which is forming gank squads and roaming around in ceptors getting a few kills before retreating to their station or more likely their POS. NBSI have made an art form of the roaming frig fleet and G/IRON are not really doing anything different though they do occasionally bring out the BS but never very far from their POS or station. All the advantages in EVE are with the attacking force not the defenders, strategy hardly comes into it. Why do you think merc forces have so much success? Primarily, because they have no space to defend.
Philyus	Posted - 2005.11.28 17:52:00 - [170] Edited by: Philyus on 28/11/2005 17:51:57 Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: CYVOK ASCN members will engage anyone who enters ASCN territory. We will try to avoid shooting "Blue" Allies that stray into ASCN Space, but no guarantees until the current situation is resolved. So the 'no fly zone' does not apply to SE? I bolded the important part. If we feel we have reason to shoot you, we will shoot. If you are blue and ratting in our space, say bye bye. If you are blue and just quickly passing through, we really don't care. Quote: So the 'no fly zone' does not apply to SE? Originally by: meneolaos Hek G/IRON and Razor are overwelm you in a swift, you are not outnumbered or outgunned - you easily outskilled by strategic and logistical aspects! Please strategicly place yourself outside a POS and into an outpost please. Thanks. -------------------- I am easily confused. Leave me alone!
Roxanne	Posted - 2005.11.28 18:40:00 - [171] Ok, thank you for the clarification. The initial post sounded quite martial and seemed to indicate a total closure of borders for everyone. Good to see that there are exceptions.
Sharigan	Posted - 2005.11.28 19:07:00 - [172] Edited by: Sharigan on 28/11/2005 19:11:57 Originally by: meneolaos Hek i think the time is over for hymnes about what you gonna do and what you alliance in this game is going to do. G/IRON and Razor are overwelm you in a swift, you are not outnumbered or outgunned - you easily outskilled by strategic and logistical aspects! eve means more than placing bubbles on the gate, take the station with 50ships, build outpost and penetrate ships crossing sectors under your control - eve is not only tactical short term "search and kill", eve is strategical. you gonna have fun with close borders a play the badboys pirate style, if you smart enough and good enough. but guess now you learn your lesson, your are not as half as clever as you thought, you are not as half as skilled as you thought, you are not as half as organized as you thought. all this threads, all this posts - "well G crashed that node, G outnumbered us there bla bla bla" - nothing but facts that you lost your face, you are no longer a respected alliance in the game, you are nothing more than targets in the days after this! welcome to the world of real strategic gameplay, welcome to your armageddon ASCN! abandon all hope. We still hold our space. Whether or not you choose to recognize that it stands as a true statement. People can come against us whenever they want, but as long as we still hold our space we are still the victors. G set out to destroy us, by that standard no they have not accomplished they're goal. Now if they were a merc corp being paid to hastle us, then yes they would have accomplished they're goals by now. If the day is ever to come when G defeats ASCN then enjoy sitting back and spreading as much garbage on the forums as you would like. Until then posts like the above just makes you look uneducated. Abandon all hope? Only in people that make posts such as yourself. "And He was asking him, 'What is your name?' And he said to Him, 'My name is Legion; for we are many.'"
Foomanshoe	Posted - 2005.11.30 22:45:00 - [173] Does this include your "protectorate" region of Esoteria? You gonna start shooting Tribes, KOS, SA, FIX, BoB, SE now that are flying around in eso killing people? or are you going to contain your Now fly zone to accual ASCN regions? Can we still fly through azn during EU timezones? _______________________________________________ Originally by: Oveur To the nerfmobile!
Netto	Posted - 2005.12.01 05:35:00 - [174] Originally by: Foomanshoe Does this include your "protectorate" region of Esoteria? You gonna start shooting Tribes, KOS, SA, FIX, BoB, SE now that are flying around in eso killing people? or are you going to contain your Now fly zone to accual ASCN regions? Can we still fly through azn during EU timezones? Awe, you need a hug /huggles! So much bitterness for one so young, tragic :(. Netto
Dao 2	Posted - 2005.12.04 04:42:00 - [175] still cant get over the now fly ;p
Kalixa Hihro	Posted - 2005.12.05 17:45:00 - [176] Originally by: Invisible Touch Edited by: Invisible Touch on 14/11/2005 12:37:18 Announcement after announcement things are sketchy to say the least... One thing I know is that "G" dont post much, and that honor comes with them ingame. So far they have been as serious as one can get ingame. There's much speculation about BoB's stance in all this. Can someone please clarify this? Originally by: Rod Blaine What goes around comes around. Your more recetn delaings have not made you any friends at all, and lost you quite a few. I don't pretend to speak for G or understand their motives, but I bet they don't post a lot because they do their fighting in game with their ships, where it matters, as opposed to a chat window or forum, where it doesn't. Beating the crap out of people in the game is a lot more satisfying and speaks volumes more than a bunch of forum posts. This is my opinion and nothing more.
Berak FalCheran	Posted - 2005.12.07 09:54:00 - [177] Originally by: CYVOK ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. does that mean you have to fly there? Originally by: Malthros Zenobia In short: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
DANGEROUS	Posted - 2005.12.09 11:37:00 - [178] no wonder u lot like static camps so much it gives u time to write all this rubbish in forums the southeners really need to learn to fight and not talk ****e you lot have got fat on ur easy space try the north - its cold and barren and u have to WORK for a life. We come from the north - we FIGHT - we dont spam rubbish!! - - (well much)
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2005.12.09 11:49:00 - [179] Originally by: DANGEROUS we FIGHT - we dont spam rubbish!! - - (well much) 1. Re read you post 2. Find mirror 3. Laugh - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
Chromakey Dreamcoat Caldari Model Of Aggression	Posted - 2007.11.03 00:43:00 - [180] man those dudes G and IRON dudes are a bunch of ******* backstabbers

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