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CYVOK	Posted - 2005.11.14 03:57:00 - [1] Due to the treachery perpetrated earlier today by G & IRON, who only a few short days ago we negotiated a deal with in good faith, ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. ASCN members will engage anyone who enters ASCN territory. We will try to avoid shooting "Blue" Allies that stray into ASCN Space, but no guarantees until the current situation is resolved. I would also like to state for the record that I am done playing EvE as an ôhonorable & friendly personö. I would like to thank G & IRON for helping me finish my journey to the ôDark Sideö.
Kyle Caldrel	Posted - 2005.11.14 03:58:00 - [2] Edited by: Kyle Caldrel on 14/11/2005 03:58:57 bwahahahahhahahaha... ACSN space will burn under the siege. muahahhaha
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2005.11.14 04:13:00 - [3] Originally by: CYVOK ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. One bad bad move after another, oh and i assume you meant NO FLY zone otherwise it would be quite hilarious Whats the point of this? You gonna start shooting FIX and BOB in your space and declare it as their fault for not reading this statement? Or are you keeping G and IRON at blue fo the laughs? Also there is the matter of Omist, where i see that Stain Empire has Sovereignity and Knights of the Crossroads ( sorry if that name is wrong, recalling from memory). Are you imposing a Siege on those? But dont worry if you continue like this i doubt there will be many "Blues" left. P.S.: i like this quote: Originally by: CYVOK ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. think i'll add it to my sig Originally by: Oveur **! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile! Originally by:** CYVOK ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone.
I'm Spying	Posted - 2005.11.14 04:53:00 - [4] dude, get a life, lame flame baiters
skilz	Posted - 2005.11.14 04:58:00 - [5] This is great...make a movie out of it so I can watch --
Eleanor Roosevelt	Posted - 2005.11.14 05:11:00 - [6] Originally by: CYVOK I would also like to state for the record that I am done playing EvE as an ôhonorable & friendly personö. I would like to thank G & IRON for helping me finish my journey to the ôDark Sideö. Ummmm. . . I thought that happened here
Shin Ra	Posted - 2005.11.14 05:33:00 - [7] Its not as if ASCN space was ever open space, nor were you ever a nice guy. Nothing has changed.
Kerosene	Posted - 2005.11.14 05:37:00 - [8] I forsee lots of friendly fire incidents precipitating bad times for ASCN. Although I understand the reasoning behind closing borders, it's rather like locking the stable door after the horse has bolted. __
D75485	Posted - 2005.11.14 05:41:00 - [9] well dont forget about ascn and se, people think that its G & IRON only but SE and ASCN made deal and then SE made a deal with G/IRON and how did ascn give omist to SE when Omist was not ASCN's land
algorythm	Posted - 2005.11.14 05:44:00 - [10] Can I visit you? __________________________ Man usually avoids attributing cleverness to somebody else -- unless it is an enemy. -- Albert Einstein

Shine Ra	Posted - 2005.11.14 06:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Shin Ra Its not as if ASCN space was ever open space, nor were you ever a nice guy. Nothing has changed. but we are nice boys, we just are smack tarded pawnzers of eve but loved for it. Bum eden now recruiting must be a young uber smack tard, love wcs's cause we run alot, and deal with me in your corp if interested convo any bum eden ty
ArcticFox	Posted - 2005.11.14 06:19:00 - [12] Edited by: ArcticFox on 14/11/2005 06:20:25 I beleive the point this was intended to make is that ASCN have been playing nice, and now we're done with it. No more agreements about leaving space before the fleet rolls out, no more random 'gentlemens agreements' based on so called mutual respect. G/IRON invaded ASCN space after making an agreement to leave esoteria and ASCN space within a certain timeframe. They didn't refuse the agreement, they took it and used it to fly in to our space and start shooting. In short, if you're not one of us, and not our ally, we're going to shoot you, because we're ****ed off. (The above does not necessarily reflect the opinion of ASCN leadership, corporations, players, or the poster's pet cat.) ---------------------------------- "There's no +6 Sword of WTFPWN in Eve." - Er... Some person on the forum...
Saatar Fora	Posted - 2005.11.14 06:19:00 - [13] Edited by: Saatar Fora on 14/11/2005 06:19:03 ------- "wheat barley kill anything? are you oats of your mind? I corn belive you just said that, rice I'm off to bed now!" - Draximus Cane
Leno	Posted - 2005.11.14 06:27:00 - [14] Originally by: Shine Ra Originally by: Shin Ra Its not as if ASCN space was ever open space, nor were you ever a nice guy. Nothing has changed. but we are nice boys, we just are smack tarded pawnzers of eve but loved for it. Bum eden now recruiting must be a young uber smack tard, love wcs's cause we run alot, and deal with me in your corp if interested convo any bum eden ty You have too much time on your hand... and whatever happened to the character BURN EDEN? --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2005.11.14 06:32:00 - [15] well from cyvoks post here he basically tells all allies to stay out and not to be surprised if they get shot at in ASCN territory. Regarding to Red's and Neutrals,i am not sure how ASCN's poliy was but isnt it normal to shoot everything in your space thats not blue? Originally by: Oveur **! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile! Originally by:** CYVOK ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone.
Mason Iennas	Posted - 2005.11.14 07:28:00 - [16] Originally by: CYVOK I would also like to state for the record that I am done playing EvE as an ôhonorable & friendly personö. I would like to thank G & IRON for helping me finish my journey to the ôDark Sideö. Star Wars? My turn my turn. "The fear of loss is a path to the Dark Side." ùYoda
ProbeSpecialist	Posted - 2005.11.14 08:37:00 - [17] Well if you can't trust the Germans who can you trust?
Sedith	Posted - 2005.11.14 09:02:00 - [18] Originally by: CYVOK ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. OMG its clear now, Your all having a massive party down there. An the MC wasn't invited!!
Roxanna Kell	Posted - 2005.11.14 09:03:00 - [19] i my self wouldn't just shoot blue's, but if i see a big gang of them, in combat ships, beep beep. you need to understand cyvok has been betrayed, anger can do that sometime, but guys we are trying to protect our space, and i dont think there is an alliance that has more naps with its nabours than ASCN, we even branded cyvok with the nickname Mr Nap. sory bout that. With Great Powers Comes bigger Enemies. i really don't believe SA was taken over because their evil (what Evil, just a game G) you realy believed this people are wearing dark jerkins and can't be seen in the dark apart fromt heir red eyes.,thats all just a plot to the story, off Omgiamboredlet'sPVP. just attack some one, and just like BOB admit it, say we were bored, so we re shooting you any how, what do you guys thing man, really, cause iam jsut like, screw this game, ****es me off when politics comes into play.
Therem Harth	Posted - 2005.11.14 09:24:00 - [20] CYVOK? Betrayed? Even though I have mighty doubts about who betrayed or misled whom in the first place, in this particular incident... what goes around, comes around. I do remember the betrayal of XETIC corps when ASCN was formed the way it did; it could have been done in a different way, but they have chosen, and now the wheel turns. And thanks for acknowledging your long-time travel to the "dark side", I'm glad IRON/G helped to push your over the edge so you can't pretend to teeter on it anymore. --

Roxanna Kell	Posted - 2005.11.14 09:29:00 - [21] Originally by: Therem Harth CYVOK? Betrayed? Even though I have mighty doubts about who betrayed or misled whom in the first place, in this particular incident... what goes around, comes around. I do remember the betrayal of XETIC corps when ASCN was formed the way it did; it could have been done in a different way, but they have chosen, and now the wheel turns. And thanks for acknowledging your long-time travel to the "dark side", I'm glad IRON/G helped to push your over the edge so you can't pretend to teeter on it anymore. and your main is? AS I said, past is past, most of ascn wouldnt know what ur talking about, i my self aint got a clue, i wasn t with ascn at the time, but now its a new world. forget it, move on let go, its over.
Roxanne	Posted - 2005.11.14 09:55:00 - [22] Originally by: CYVOK I would also like to state for the record that I am done playing EvE as an ôhonorable & friendly personö. I would like to thank G & IRON for helping me finish my journey to the ôDark Sideö. Hi mom... oh wait, you are not my mother... You mean you usually reach decisions by using the WWYD (what-would-yoda-do) principle? So the abandoning of XETIC was an act sponsored by the jedi council? Should your jedi powers of foresight not enable you to detect treachery beforehand? Unless you commit it yourself, that is...
Therem Harth	Posted - 2005.11.14 09:56:00 - [23] Originally by: Roxanna Kell and your main is? AS I said, past is past, most of ascn wouldnt know what ur talking about, i my self aint got a clue, i wasn t with ascn at the time, but now its a new world. forget it, move on let go, its over. I don't post with alts. If you don't know me, it's really not my fault :) ask your CEO maybe? As to forgetting, I do not forget betrayals, neither do I forgive them. And thanks to CCP, there are now "new worlds" in Eve. Your past deeds stick. There are a lot of people I know and respect in ASCN, who never engaged in any betrayals, backstabbings and other political foul play. They have decided at some point that their future lies with this alliance - it's their free choice and I do not think worse of them because of that; it just means that we would possibly shoot one another in fleet battles or guerilla warfare when and if we land in opposing factions. But for some others, respect once lost is not as easy to get back as sec status. --
Drilla	Posted - 2005.11.14 09:58:00 - [24] Edited by: Drilla on 14/11/2005 09:58:52 Originally by: CYVOK I would like to thank G & IRON for helping me finish my journey to the ôDark Sideö. Welcome aboard - I told you this a long time ago. In EVE you cannot rely on reputation and friendship, military strength is the only way you get what you want in this game (or by POS tower zerging). I applaud the path you have set out for ASCN and hope you set things right down there. Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Therem Harth	Posted - 2005.11.14 10:04:00 - [25] Originally by: Drilla Edited by: Drilla on 14/11/2005 09:58:52 Originally by: CYVOK I would like to thank G & IRON for helping me finish my journey to the ôDark Sideö. Welcome aboard - I told you this a long time ago. In EVE you cannot rely on reputation and friendship, military strength is the only way you get what you want in this game (or by POS tower zerging). I applaud the path you have set out for ASCN and hope you set things right down there. Oh, it would be fun to see Shinra and ASCN pretend to get along anew and create some kind of a fresh "oh noes shinra hauler shot down xetic should die" incident; completely unplanned and accidental of course, complete innocent indignation galore! .5. social engineering team 4tw ;) NOT --
Dawn Princess	Posted - 2005.11.14 10:19:00 - [26] What the post means is that being blue is no longer a guarantee that someone you have set as being friendly is necessarily going to be friendly to you. Having settings changes centrally means that not everyone is caught so that just because someone seems blue you still need to be on guard for the time being while G/IRON/RAZOR fleets are roaming about.
Liet Traep	Posted - 2005.11.14 10:19:00 - [27] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Therem Harth CYVOK? Betrayed? Even though I have mighty doubts about who betrayed or misled whom in the first place, in this particular incident... what goes around, comes around. I do remember the betrayal of XETIC corps when ASCN was formed the way it did; it could have been done in a different way, but they have chosen, and now the wheel turns. And thanks for acknowledging your long-time travel to the "dark side", I'm glad IRON/G helped to push your over the edge so you can't pretend to teeter on it anymore. and your main is? AS I said, past is past, most of ascn wouldnt know what ur talking about, i my self aint got a clue, i wasn t with ascn at the time, but now its a new world. forget it, move on let go, its over. It doesn't matter that most of ASCN doesn't know the history of what happened before. When you join a corp or alliance you get their enemies and allies with that corp tag. If I see an ASCN pilot I'm not going to wait and check how long he's been a member. I'm going to shoot. And as long as ASCN exists people will bring up how it was formed on the betrayal of Xetic. for better or worse that kind of history doesn't go away. Look at the forum postings you still see on CFS or The Great Northern War. People never forget.
Lunas Feelgood	Posted - 2005.11.14 10:58:00 - [28] Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 14/11/2005 10:59:10 Originally by: CYVOK Due to the treachery perpetrated earlier today by G & IRON, who only a few short days ago we negotiated a deal with in good faith, ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. Does this mean we arnt alowed to fly down and shoot you guys?? Btw i think you mean NO FLY zone
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2005.11.14 11:06:00 - [29] Edited by: Elenia Kheynes on 14/11/2005 11:07:25 Originally by: CYVOK Due to the treachery perpetrated earlier today by G & IRON, who only a few short days ago we negotiated a deal with in good faith, ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. ASCN members will engage anyone who enters ASCN territory. We will try to avoid shooting "Blue" Allies that stray into ASCN Space, but no guarantees until the current situation is resolved. I would also like to state for the record that I am done playing EvE as an ôhonorable & friendly personö. I would like to thank G & IRON for helping me finish my journey to the ôDark Sideö. First thing, "NOW FLY ZONE", what about a past or future fly zone ? Second thing Cyvok, according to your forums you were planning to prevent any long term settlement of G/IRON in the south. It prooves you had back thoughts against them and were getting ready to attack them. The "Dark Side" ? You've been on the dark side for a very long time, observing, taking notes and taking part to different and various "plans". You were just not the puppeteer ^^ Welcome on the Dark Side as puppet master Cyvok I doubt of your success tho ;p Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
WildCard	Posted - 2005.11.14 11:12:00 - [30] NOW FLY Zone - ok thanks for the offer...we will use this -WildCard CEO SteelVipers- --- We break for nobody--

Muthsera	Posted - 2005.11.14 11:40:00 - [31] Originally by: Eleanor Roosevelt Ummmm. . . I thought that happened here I wonder if that went as well as they hoped... SoonÖ
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2005.11.14 11:40:00 - [32] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 14/11/2005 11:40:42 What goes around comes around. Your more recetn delaings have not made you any friends at all, and lost you quite a few. _______________________________________________ Power to the players !
ActiveX	Posted - 2005.11.14 12:04:00 - [33] Xetic - A Beaten baby who had its head cut off. The corps DDC and CLS leave the alliance and start anew this is called a great "betrayal" because it was during war time? Well news flash. From most accounts of it THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES FIGHTING. Xetic falls and now everyone calls ASCN a backstabbers alliance or something. We left xetic because it sucked. We formed a new alliance. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME AND NO ONE CALLS IT BETREYAL GET OVER IT. MASS did it to SE. The corps of SA did it just now. No one is calling them on it.... IRON / G guys claim that our forums say that we will stop any attempts at perminant residance of SA space. ON SAs REQUEST. We were asked by SA to not interfear unless G / IRON threatened the very existence of SA and set up shop there. Not to mention I dont take kindly to the idea of old enemies right next door. We had NO hostile intents towards G / IRON. Only NBSI. Show me a quote that states we planed to attack / try to destroy G / iron in a way other than preventing them from destabilizing the south for a long period of time. ASCN trys to police the area. IMHO a dumbass move on our part. But you all must realise the ONLY intention of this was to prevent SA from further factioning creating another event which would DESTABILIZE the south. All we wanted to do was prevent the south from coming apart. I really think it could have been done another way but hey its in the past now. G / IRON's attack. Blue standing people suddenly open fire on ASCN forces. WTF? You atleast should have done a forum post stating that you were fighting ASCN. I still have yet to see a REAL reason that G / IRON are attacking ASCN other than the SA corp wanted their outpost back ASAP. TBH I think if they wanted the outpost back ASCN forces would have probably captured it FOR THEM. G / IRON wanted an excuse to shoot us while we wernt expecting it. They got one and here we stand. Kinda low IMO but hey welcome to eve. SA. SA is in a current state of dissaray (despite what they may say). I mean come on. They just lost MASS, and 1500 ppl with omist. This are prolly just a WEEE bit funky over there. Despite this ASCN has NOT fired on SA forces other than in measures of self defence, of which Ive heard no incedents of. Now to sum it up really fast. Let me just express the absurdity of what has happened. G/IRON invade SA and wipe the floor. Taking a few stations including an outpost. G/IRON talk with ASCN command and decide "Hey we taught them a lesson, lets go home now." So G/IRON start to pack up and head home. ASCN looks at the decimated area of SA space and basicly thinks "** they got ** up, maybe we should help em out a little and protect the area till they can get on their feet." G/IRON break the agreement when they talk to outpost owners. Outpost owners want outpost NOW. No ASCN protection. G / IRON HELP THE PEOPLE THEY JUST KILLED / TOOK STATION FROM and go after ASCN without any warning and still under blue colors for ASCN personel. G/IRON need to take a few breaths and step back. ASCN needs to do the same thing. We need to realise we ARNT the police. SA can handel its self. The population of EVE viewed our actions as possibly malicious and acted on it a weee bit too fast. I know that ASCN would have given the space back. But I can understand everyone not trusting us to do so. Wasnt our place to just say were going to do it. Now if SA had ASKED us. That would have been more appropriate. What do you have to argue against this? What purpose is there to continue the fight against ASCN? Basicly we tried to do something everyone else didnt like and we got *** slapped for it. Why continue? ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
Nafri	Posted - 2005.11.14 12:11:00 - [34] Ok, is that a need I have to fly in ASCN space NOW, or can I fly there LATER too? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscription canceled
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2005.11.14 12:15:00 - [35] Edited by: Tiuwaz on 14/11/2005 12:15:20 cant you read Nafri he clearly said NOW Originally by: Oveur **! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile! Originally by:** CYVOK ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone.
Nafri	Posted - 2005.11.14 12:29:00 - [36] Originally by: Tiuwaz Edited by: Tiuwaz on 14/11/2005 12:15:20 cant you read Nafri he clearly said NOW k, Im omw -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscription canceled
heyjoe52	Posted - 2005.11.14 12:33:00 - [37] everyone dog pile on feythabolis! I have a fever, and the only thing that cure it... is more cowbell!
Invisible Touch	Posted - 2005.11.14 12:36:00 - [38] Announcement after announcement things are sketchy to say the least... One thing I know is that "G" dont post much, and that honor comes with them ingame. So far they have been as serious as one can get ingame. There's much speculation about BoB's stance in all this. Can someone please clarify this? All of the above are personal views/opinions only and not that of my corp or/and alliance Every day we stand is another day for PA
Aquiesse Erus	Posted - 2005.11.14 12:41:00 - [39] NOW FLY SPACE Damn i need to get down there soon :)
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2005.11.14 12:42:00 - [40] Originally by: ActiveX Xetic [random blablabla] Why continue? I read a funny thing on forums that would perfectly apply to you: Cry me a river Build a bridge and get over it. I would add to this: and come fighting =) Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Tiuwaz Edited by: Tiuwaz on 14/11/2005 12:15:20 cant you read Nafri he clearly said NOW k, Im omw hurry before cyvok tries to edit his post Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?

Aquiesse Erus	Posted - 2005.11.14 12:43:00 - [41] Time for ASCN to join the SA grave methinks.
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2005.11.14 13:39:00 - [42] I can't make it down to ASCN space now, as I am at work. Is coming down this evening ok? 23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC
Aquiesse Erus	Posted - 2005.11.14 13:49:00 - [43] Originally by: FireFoxx80 I can't make it down to ASCN space now, as I am at work. Is coming down this evening ok? Im sure they wont mind at all. Well.. they probably will but who cares?!?!?!
Sarmaul	Posted - 2005.11.14 13:56:00 - [44] Originally by: heyjoe52 everyone dog pile on feythabolis! BUNDLE!!!!! Originally by: Chowdown We camp a lot
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2005.11.14 14:18:00 - [45] Originally by: Invisible Touch There's much speculation about BoB's stance in all this. Can someone please clarify this? No. _______________________________________________ Power to the players !
Aquiesse Erus	Posted - 2005.11.14 14:55:00 - [46] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Invisible Touch There's much speculation about BoB's stance in all this. Can someone please clarify this? No. Please Rod, PLEASE! I will give cookies.
Stratego	Posted - 2005.11.14 15:22:00 - [47] did someone say bob? ---- BOB are BOB 5 are BOB and together we make BOOBIE5.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2005.11.14 15:30:00 - [48] I find it hilarious that people are concentrating on a type. Sad, very sad. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Trooper B99	Posted - 2005.11.14 15:33:00 - [49] Originally by: Dianabolic I find it hilarious that people are concentrating on a type. Sad, very sad. Errr . . .did you mean on a typo? Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2005.11.14 15:43:00 - [50] I like ASCN really, but I think its a mistake to let your ROE be dictated by the methodology employed by the enemy. If you get backstabbed its never a good idea to go all bitter and twisted, you just have to continue in the knowledge you are better than the people that backstabbed you rather than aping the low tactics used against you. All this knee-jerk closing of territory (as if that was possible) as a response to hostility is crazy. Only people it can annoy is your friends and allies and interested bystanders. Your enemy just loves it because its a physical representation of you digging yourself into a corner and becoming isolated from past diplomatic understandings. My 2 cents. _________________ Shoot Tyrants - join Jericho Fraction!

Roxanne	Posted - 2005.11.14 15:51:00 - [51] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine I like ASCN really. So you like an enclosurist, territorial alliance?
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:09:00 - [52] Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Jasmine Constantine I like ASCN really. So you like an enclosurist, territorial alliance? There are enclosurist territorial alliances that shoot blue on blue and break their word and enclosurist territorials that don't. There are those that insist others adopt their standings and fall into line and those that don't. Its foolish to consider all territorials are the same and that some of them couldn't evolve into something better. Looking at the world in two shades only never really makes sense. And for the record, in space I've only ever found ASCN to be honourable good-humoured fighters shooting at the same people who back-stabbed my corp so whats not to like? _________________ Shoot Tyrants - join Jericho Fraction!
Roxanne	Posted - 2005.11.14 16:11:00 - [53] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Jasmine Constantine I like ASCN really. So you like an enclosurist, territorial alliance? There are enclosurist territorial alliances that shoot blue on blue and break their word and enclosurist territorials that don't. There are those that insist others adopt their standings and fall into line and those that don't. Its foolish to consider all territorials are the same and that some of them couldn't evolve into something better. Looking at the world in two shades only never really makes sense. And for the record, in space I've only ever found ASCN to be honourable good-humoured fighters shooting at the same people who back-stabbed my corp so whats not to like? I like ASCN, too, which makes the current situation all that worse because I like G/IRON, too.
cordy	Posted - 2005.11.14 17:59:00 - [54] Originally by: ActiveX Xetic - A Beaten baby who had its head cut off. The corps DDC and CLS leave the alliance and start anew this is called a great "betrayal" because it was during war time? Well news flash. From most accounts of it THEY WERE THE ONLY ONES FIGHTING. Xetic falls and now everyone calls ASCN a backstabbers alliance or something. We left xetic because it sucked. We formed a new alliance. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME AND NO ONE CALLS IT BETREYAL GET OVER IT. MASS did it to SE. The corps of SA did it just now. No one is calling them on it.... IRON / G guys claim that our forums say that we will stop any attempts at perminant residance of SA space. ON SAs REQUEST. We were asked by SA to not interfear unless G / IRON threatened the very existence of SA and set up shop there. Not to mention I dont take kindly to the idea of old enemies right next door. We had NO hostile intents towards G / IRON. Only NBSI. Show me a quote that states we planed to attack / try to destroy G / iron in a way other than preventing them from destabilizing the south for a long period of time. ASCN trys to police the area. IMHO a dumbass move on our part. But you all must realise the ONLY intention of this was to prevent SA from further factioning creating another event which would DESTABILIZE the south. All we wanted to do was prevent the south from coming apart. I really think it could have been done another way but hey its in the past now. G / IRON's attack. Blue standing people suddenly open fire on ASCN forces. WTF? You atleast should have done a forum post stating that you were fighting ASCN. I still have yet to see a REAL reason that G / IRON are attacking ASCN other than the SA corp wanted their outpost back ASAP. TBH I think if they wanted the outpost back ASCN forces would have probably captured it FOR THEM. G / IRON wanted an excuse to shoot us while we wernt expecting it. They got one and here we stand. Kinda low IMO but hey welcome to eve. SA. SA is in a current state of dissaray (despite what they may say). I mean come on. They just lost MASS, and 1500 ppl with omist. This are prolly just a WEEE bit funky over there. Despite this ASCN has NOT fired on SA forces other than in measures of self defence, of which Ive heard no incedents of. Now to sum it up really fast. Let me just express the absurdity of what has happened. G/IRON invade SA and wipe the floor. Taking a few stations including an outpost. G/IRON talk with ASCN command and decide "Hey we taught them a lesson, lets go home now." So G/IRON start to pack up and head home. ASCN looks at the decimated area of SA space and basicly thinks "** they got ** up, maybe we should help em out a little and protect the area till they can get on their feet." G/IRON break the agreement when they talk to outpost owners. Outpost owners want outpost NOW. No ASCN protection. G / IRON HELP THE PEOPLE THEY JUST KILLED / TOOK STATION FROM and go after ASCN without any warning and still under blue colors for ASCN personel. G/IRON need to take a few breaths and step back. ASCN needs to do the same thing. We need to realise we ARNT the police. SA can handel its self. The population of EVE viewed our actions as possibly malicious and acted on it a weee bit too fast. I know that ASCN would have given the space back. But I can understand everyone not trusting us to do so. Wasnt our place to just say were going to do it. Now if SA had ASKED us. That would have been more appropriate. What do you have to argue against this? What purpose is there to continue the fight against ASCN? Basicly we tried to do something everyone else didnt like and we got *** slapped for it. Why continue? SHUT UP You have been booted by cordy please come again for the next flight Rl Girly Loxyrider's girl Co-Ceo of Solst
Noveron	Posted - 2005.11.14 19:10:00 - [55] Edited by: Noveron on 14/11/2005 19:13:16 Originally by: Shin Ra Its not as if ASCN space was ever open space, nor were you ever a nice guy. Nothing has changed. CYVOK is a pretty nice guy, as well as honorable, it is just that you and many others, as with many other things, dont know chrip about him or ASCN, or purposely try to dmg ASCN image, like I think it is your case. Some people read and believe everything they read on forums, like sheeps, for instance read "Peoke" from MASS, who still believes Omist was conquered permanently by ASCN (http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=246651&page=1#5), and like this sheep, many others do the same.. 1. ASCN has not invaded anyone or tried to conquer any one else's space and now everyone goes like.. hey, they took Omist for theirselves..(get a grip). 2. ASCN has always sticked to their word and now everyone says, they have hidden plans to conquer this and lie that.. but proof is ASCN hasnt done it yet one time. Read poin 1. Some have honour.. believe it or not, ASCN has. 3. Saying crap and spitting bull*chrip constantly in every thread does not mean it will become truth.. then again.. there will be many sheeps that will follow your words. --- Now proof.. G/IRON while being blue and having a pact with ASCN, has started without warning to attack ASCN forces for put whatever reason in here In my country we say.. "those who dont warn are traitors" and thats the whole point of this, it is not ASCN's fault if they have been backstabbed, no matter how you paint it.
0Virtu0	Posted - 2005.11.14 19:14:00 - [56] Edited by: 0Virtu0 on 14/11/2005 19:15:15 Originally by: CYVOK Due to the treachery perpetrated earlier today by G & IRON, who only a few short days ago we negotiated a deal with in good faith, ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. Awesome. I need togo take a shower first though, I can't come down looking like a miner working hard in the belts. ---------------------------------- I play EvE and I don't even get a stupid signature.
Noveron	Posted - 2005.11.14 19:17:00 - [57] Originally by: CYVOK I would also like to state for the record that I am done playing EvE as an ôhonorable & friendly personö. I would like to thank G & IRON for helping me finish my journey to the ôDark Sideö. I am not a religious guy, honest, but CYVOK man, remember that a very good guy called Jesus, was crucified around 2005 years ago for trying to do the right thing. You're cool, ASCN is cool.. and even though you are probably dissapointed for some actions made by other alliances and words spread in here, you will keep cool and keep ASCN on the path to become even greater. Thanks CYVOK.
Noveron	Posted - 2005.11.14 19:19:00 - [58] Originally by: 0Virtu0 Edited by: 0Virtu0 on 14/11/2005 19:15:15 Originally by: CYVOK Due to the treachery perpetrated earlier today by G & IRON, who only a few short days ago we negotiated a deal with in good faith, ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. Awesome. I need togo take a shower first though, I can't come down looking like a miner working hard in the belts. You do feel smart, dont you? OUT OUT!! YOU DEAMONS OF STUPIDITY!!!
fastwind	Posted - 2005.11.14 19:35:00 - [59] as i have said word after an agreement like KICK THEM OUT and CHANGE OUR PVP ROTATION TO THE SOUTH FOR THIS REASON ect are not the kind of words to use when G and IRON were willing to leave the area peaceably after a good clean fight. Words like that should not have been said as it will tend to get people backs up who have fought long and hard and for a fact i know IRON eve mailed ASCN before we broke any agreement and did not attack until this was done. This is not inteneded as a troll or a flame but lets stop the backstabbing jibes and have fun.null Proud member of VNTR and IRON
Roxanne	Posted - 2005.11.14 19:40:00 - [60] Originally by: Noveron I am not a religious guy, honest, but CYVOK man, remember that a very good guy called Jesus, was crucified around 2005 years ago for trying to do the right thing. You are comparing CYVOK to Jesus?

Noveron	Posted - 2005.11.14 19:48:00 - [61] Edited by: Noveron on 14/11/2005 19:55:11 Edited by: Noveron on 14/11/2005 19:53:27 Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Noveron I am not a religious guy, honest, but CYVOK man, remember that a very good guy called Jesus, was crucified around 2005 years ago for trying to do the right thing. You are comparing CYVOK to Jesus? Yes, you also look like the eve-o type.. radical and extreme, and whatever one says, lets all think the worst case scenario, CRY OUT LOUD FOR MY SINS!!.. read my post again, pls.. If you still dont get it, Im saying CYVOK is a good guy. PS: Now all kinds of sheeps will believe what you just "asked" is truth..
Roxanne	Posted - 2005.11.14 20:03:00 - [62] Originally by: Noveron Edited by: Noveron on 14/11/2005 19:55:11 Edited by: Noveron on 14/11/2005 19:53:27 Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Noveron I am not a religious guy, honest, but CYVOK man, remember that a very good guy called Jesus, was crucified around 2005 years ago for trying to do the right thing. You are comparing CYVOK to Jesus? Yes, you also look like the eve-o type.. radical and extreme, and whatever one says, lets all think the worst case scenario, CRY OUT LOUD FOR MY SINS!!.. read my post again, pls.. If you still dont get it, Im saying CYVOK is a good guy. Just like Jesus, check. I am not very radical, I fear, rather the opposite which is a shame since the radical type gets much more attention. You are quite funny and eloquent. I salute you for your posts which are really good.
Noveron	Posted - 2005.11.14 20:20:00 - [63] Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Noveron Edited by: Noveron on 14/11/2005 19:55:11 Edited by: Noveron on 14/11/2005 19:53:27 Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Noveron I am not a religious guy, honest, but CYVOK man, remember that a very good guy called Jesus, was crucified around 2005 years ago for trying to do the right thing. You are comparing CYVOK to Jesus? Yes, you also look like the eve-o type.. radical and extreme, and whatever one says, lets all think the worst case scenario, CRY OUT LOUD FOR MY SINS!!.. read my post again, pls.. If you still dont get it, Im saying CYVOK is a good guy. Just like Jesus, check. I am not very radical, I fear, rather the opposite which is a shame since the radical type gets much more attention. You are quite funny and eloquent. I salute you for your posts which are really good. :) thank you for the compliments.. Read this whole thread and see how there are all kinds of jumpy answers to the slighest comment. If you are not radical, I apologize for saying you so, just that eve-o is filled with tards that jump on every word one say.. for instance, see how many stupid comments over CYVOK's typo :) Heck! they love making the "smart comment". Look at this shower guy, or Nafri for example... Every time I read people like that makes one want to swing the "dogbert's stupidity exsorcism wand around" and smack them all in the head with it.. Now.. Im off from the forums, dont want to get infected with the disease while its not too late, I recommend you do the same
Akoudoulos	Posted - 2005.11.14 21:19:00 - [64] Originally by: CYVOK Due to the treachery perpetrated earlier today by G & IRON, who only a few short days ago we negotiated a deal with in good faith, ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. ASCN members will engage anyone who enters ASCN territory. We will try to avoid shooting "Blue" Allies that stray into ASCN Space, but no guarantees until the current situation is resolved. I would also like to state for the record that I am done playing EvE as an ôhonorable & friendly personö. I would like to thank G & IRON for helping me finish my journey to the ôDark Sideö. Thats quite ironic don't you think? you pay back old bills CYVOK, and you take down ppl that trust you and have no idea why. I hope that your people aren't as stupid as you think, your propaganda and manipulation must be stopped
Azeroth Uluntil	Posted - 2005.11.14 23:46:00 - [65] Finally managed to login... Something is wrong with the forums... Anyhow. Just recently got clarification as to what has happened, and why IRON&G are shooting ASCN again. Also read this thread and realized how messed up it is. Now, things I do know about this incident. 1. ASCN had agreed to take care of any other incidents reguarding the collapse of SA, surrender of MASS, or whatever else happened. IRON&G forces packed up and prepared to leave. 2. Mass/SA refused to comply after IRON&G had been lead to believe that everything was said and done. 3. ASCN attempted to order IRON&G out anyhow. Evidently, we refused as we felt that our work was incomplete. 4. A message of hostile intent was stated in one of the ASCN/DDC combat/corp channels. This crap about ASCN being betrayed is only partly true.
Logan Williams	Posted - 2005.11.14 23:48:00 - [66] I think I'll make friends with ASCN. Then I can fly a hauler through their space as a blue. That'll be a cue for a couple of friends there to shoot me. I'll declare war and half the alliance will leave and take some space with them. Afterwards, The half that left can call the other half KOS and then make me their friend again. Months later, They'll let some enemies fly through their space to attack a "friend". After the dust settles they'll "police" that area and it might, quite possibly become their space. Don't preach to us about honor, Cyvok. Your bluff has been blown. My comments are my own. More often than not I have moments of sheer stupidity. I don't need to drag my friends and allies down with me.
Nick Curso	Posted - 2005.11.15 00:37:00 - [67] /emote Sits up BoB??
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2005.11.15 00:51:00 - [68] Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Noveron I am not a religious guy, honest, but CYVOK man, remember that a very good guy called Jesus, was crucified around 2005 years ago for trying to do the right thing. You are comparing CYVOK to Jesus? I can promess all ASCN members a fair treatement like that Jesus guy. One slight difference: you will resurect... in new clones Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
ArcticFox	Posted - 2005.11.15 02:33:00 - [69] Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Originally by: ActiveX Xetic [random blablabla] Why continue? I read a funny thing on forums that would perfectly apply to you: Cry me a river Build a bridge and get over it. You know, the irony of that is that I beleive what you quoted was posted first in response to an NBSI rant a few days ago (or something) about how DDC and CLS betrayed Xetic. Now you've gone and posted it in a 'response' (I use the word losely here) to someone arguing why the decision to leave Xetic was not a 'betrayal.' ---------------------------------- "There's no +6 Sword of WTFPWN in Eve." - Er... Some person on the forum...
Lunas Feelgood	Posted - 2005.11.15 05:26:00 - [70] Leaving an alliance is not betrayal. But naping it enemyes and then take 2 regions is.. And then there is all that crap with the minerals that was stolen.

Hulubu	Posted - 2005.11.15 07:36:00 - [71] dont wish or pray for power, be small and u`l survive , the thirst of power for some are their end..... nuff said.
Katjia	Posted - 2005.11.15 09:27:00 - [72] Edited by: Katjia on 15/11/2005 09:32:05 g/iron ..razor, nbsi( i miss you) plz use the esa or hed pipes to get down ther as it would be oodles of fun to shoot you. I realise g/iron have supplys and stuff in estoria now but don't forget all that fun we had around esa. ...might actally make me log on again instead of MxO... if you like pvp then fighting all the way down ther then fighting ther then fighting all the way back should be fun right? The way i see this, is a spy saw something in one of the chats, exploited it , and made it something bigger then it was... i know in my corp that we toss around ideas that won't ever logicaly happen, but do it to be prepared ie..becoming freinds with 5..not likely gonna happen but we fight alot of the same peeps. or joining an allaince, most of us hate allainces after the whole cfs fiasco and joined ascn for a short while cus of nbsi war dec but thats a different story... Anywho i wasted enough space. edit: no i didn't...something that has always bugged me and might be for another thread or e-mail..why did nbsi dec us we did our thing in provi while you guys were Xetic and remained neutral to Xetic till they went..ohnoes you like ddc, but most of that is because they are anti-pirate in provi for obvious reasons..we ain't in bed with em ya know they have a nap with 5 and we shoot 5.
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2005.11.15 10:20:00 - [73] Originally by: ArcticFox Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Originally by: ActiveX Xetic [random blablabla] Why continue? I read a funny thing on forums that would perfectly apply to you: Cry me a river Build a bridge and get over it. You know, the irony of that is that I beleive what you quoted was posted first in response to an NBSI rant a few days ago (or something) about how DDC and CLS betrayed Xetic. you believe wrong Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
Oisin	Posted - 2005.11.15 11:24:00 - [74] Originally by: Therem Harth As to forgetting, I do not forget betrayals, neither do I forgive them. And thanks to CCP, there are no "new worlds" in Eve. Your past deeds stick. Quoted for irony. Originally by: LeMonde I also wouldn't recommend using a shuttle for any of those complexes, as you will find yourself outgunned.
Demarcus	Posted - 2005.11.15 11:48:00 - [75] Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil Finally managed to login... Something is wrong with the forums... Anyhow. Just recently got clarification as to what has happened, and why IRON&G are shooting ASCN again. Also read this thread and realized how messed up it is. Now, things I do know about this incident. 1. ASCN had agreed to take care of any other incidents reguarding the collapse of SA, surrender of MASS, or whatever else happened. IRON&G forces packed up and prepared to leave. 2. Mass/SA refused to comply after IRON&G had been lead to believe that everything was said and done. 3. ASCN attempted to order IRON&G out anyhow. Evidently, we refused as we felt that our work was incomplete. 4. A message of hostile intent was stated in one of the ASCN/DDC combat/corp channels. This crap about ASCN being betrayed is only partly true. They f*cked with the bull, and now they get the horns. I really don't see what the issue is, they tried to backstab us, so we beat them to the punch. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
Omeega	Posted - 2005.11.15 18:23:00 - [76] CYVOK is a very good person. Now i want to see what he looks like in the darkside. next Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Lunas Feelgood	Posted - 2005.11.15 19:00:00 - [77] Originally by: Katjia Edited by: Katjia on 15/11/2005 09:32:05 g/iron ..razor, nbsi( i miss you) plz use the esa or hed pipes to get down ther as it would be oodles of fun to shoot you. I realise g/iron have supplys and stuff in estoria now but don't forget all that fun we had around esa. ...might actally make me log on again instead of MxO... if you like pvp then fighting all the way down ther then fighting ther then fighting all the way back should be fun right? The way i see this, is a spy saw something in one of the chats, exploited it , and made it something bigger then it was... i know in my corp that we toss around ideas that won't ever logicaly happen, but do it to be prepared ie..becoming freinds with 5..not likely gonna happen but we fight alot of the same peeps. or joining an allaince, most of us hate allainces after the whole cfs fiasco and joined ascn for a short while cus of nbsi war dec but thats a different story... Anywho i wasted enough space. edit: no i didn't...something that has always bugged me and might be for another thread or e-mail..why did nbsi dec us we did our thing in provi while you guys were Xetic and remained neutral to Xetic till they went..ohnoes you like ddc, but most of that is because they are anti-pirate in provi for obvious reasons..we ain't in bed with em ya know they have a nap with 5 and we shoot 5. Dear katjia. First ill just like to say how nice it is to be down south again and fighting you guys.. Mom ¦n¦ pop Ammo shop is a corp with some awesome people in and we respect you alot.. To ansvar you quostion about why did we declare on you that time was becuase you were ASCN friendly and you seem to help them while we were fighting ASCN. And then we also got reports that ASCN was using you POS so we had to kill it even tough it was hard work but fun BTW we are actually thinking on declaring you guys again just for old time sake
Mortuus	Posted - 2005.11.15 22:03:00 - [78] Does this mean I am no longer welcome? Much respect to the ASCN pilots I have fought. Always friendly and polite in local, or silent. Good bunch of people and some determined fighters. I plan on seeing you guys nightly, so lock up your women and your miners Occassus Republica, NBSI
Saatar Fora	Posted - 2005.11.15 22:36:00 - [79] Edited by: Saatar Fora on 15/11/2005 22:36:32 ------- "wheat barley kill anything? are you oats of your mind? I corn belive you just said that, rice I'm off to bed now!" - Draximus Cane
ArcticFox	Posted - 2005.11.15 22:37:00 - [80] Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Originally by: ArcticFox Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Originally by: ActiveX Xetic [random blablabla] Why continue? I read a funny thing on forums that would perfectly apply to you: Cry me a river Build a bridge and get over it. You know, the irony of that is that I beleive what you quoted was posted first in response to an NBSI rant a few days ago (or something) about how DDC and CLS betrayed Xetic. you believe wrong Fair enough, I know I saw it there first. ---------------------------------- "There's no +6 Sword of WTFPWN in Eve." - Er... Some person on the forum...

ArcticFox	Posted - 2005.11.15 22:43:00 - [81] Edited by: ArcticFox on 15/11/2005 22:48:46 Edited by: ArcticFox on 15/11/2005 22:44:08 Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil 3. ASCN attempted to order IRON&G out anyhow. Evidently, we refused as we felt that our work was incomplete. That's the one part you're wrong about (from what our side saw). There was no refusal. Iron/G agreed to the terms, that's why we had you set to blue and were under orders to let you leave the area when your frigate fleet started blasting us. The sticking point I think here is not the Iron/G started shooting us at all, but that you guys did it while we were under the impression you were still on the way out and still had blue. It may not have been intentional on your side, but effectively your forces used our blue settings to catch us somewhat off guard, to get forces we wouldn't respond to in our space then start shooting. EDIT: Don't listen to anything in a DDC combat channel, we talk about shooting literally everyone who isn't in our corp at some point or another. ---------------------------------- "There's no +6 Sword of WTFPWN in Eve." - Er... Some person on the forum...
Lunas Feelgood	Posted - 2005.11.16 00:11:00 - [82] Originally by: ArcticFox EDIT: Don't listen to anything in a DDC combat channel, we talk about shooting literally everyone who isn't in our corp at some point or another. [:p LMAO
Parity	Posted - 2005.11.16 03:05:00 - [83] ASCN? ITS PAYBACK TIME... Respect to G/IRON as always... enjoy -= NBSI 4TW! =-
Adhamhnon	Posted - 2005.11.16 05:47:00 - [84] Originally by: Parity ASCN? ITS PAYBACK TIME... Respect to G/IRON as always... enjoy I forget... is this the third or fourth supposed "payback time"? It's hard to keep track with you guys.
Lunas Feelgood	Posted - 2005.11.16 07:47:00 - [85] everytime we kill one of you guys is always payback
Lacero Callrisian	Posted - 2005.11.16 10:11:00 - [86] Originally by: ArcticFox EDIT: Don't listen to anything in a DDC combat channel, we talk about shooting literally everyone who isn't in our corp at some point or another. And a lot of people in your corp if the DDC gangs I've been in are any guide :)
Dahin	Posted - 2005.11.16 11:18:00 - [87] Edited by: Dahin on 16/11/2005 11:21:53 Edited by: Dahin on 16/11/2005 11:20:16 Edited by: Dahin on 16/11/2005 11:19:16 yes, indeed. We owe you lots of bullets for that epic backstabbing down in xetic, so we're forced to pay you in dosages. We expect to have fully paid back the loan by 3515 As for the people justifying the treachery of DDC/CLS with the term "We were the only ones fighting", I will remind you that the 3 corps that formed NBSI where the only ones dying over and over again in immensea. At least for maza, I know we only had like 100mil in corpwallet and in our wallets and we still kept running and shooting 24/7 in immensea. Where do you think we acquired the habit of flying frig squads? And above all, you should feel our disgrace when we heard the news FROM [5]!!! We were advocating xetic, the council and all it's corporations all day. Suddenly our worst enemy, [5], shows up and tells us that almost our entire council and tw core corporations have defected to being their lapdogs. And we heard it from them FIRST. I still remember that timeframe, where we essentially forced DDC/CLS to admit that this is so, because they were denying as long as they could. The embarassment and humiliation is something we cannot ever forgive nor forget. We fought for xetic, we died for xetic, and suddenly this unbelievable backstab. My brother was on the next XF meeting and he described to me the coldness of that situation. The entire council had defected and all of xetic was left unorganized and defenceless to the mercy of the wolfpack. I do believe xetic made the mistake of putting too much faith on you. They let you aggresively acquire more and more political power within XF as you took one by one the chairs. And then... p00f.. And let's not forget... it was CYVOKS politics and arrogace that lead XF to that war without friends. He made the call to shoot the hauler, his corp shot the hauler. HE posted that unheard of "southern coalition" announcement declaring war on [5] on behalf of all southern entities WITHOUT THEIR APPROVAL, which ofc made all our friends bail on us and declare the MDP's void because of a hostile declaration. Essentially, we were stripped of our friends, led to war with all our enemies and then dumped helpless and leaderless while CLS/DDC legged it only to NAP everyone and escape the wrath THEY brought down upon us. We paid for your mistakes, you cowardly didn't. And as I mentioned in the beggining, that's why we owe you one huge load of ammo... EDIT: minor spelling etc
R'adeh	Posted - 2005.11.16 12:17:00 - [88] Originally by: Aquiesse Erus Time for ASCN to join the SA grave methinks. Me thinks you think too much...and the result of your "thinking" is crap, so please (see, I'm friendly) let it be. Your posts are biased, provoking and utter crap. That would even be ok if you posted as an alliance/corp member (role-play = good), i.e. with your main, but alts doing so are just lame. You sound a bit like the reincarnation of Minnie Vengance, I thought she'd never return...guess I was wrong Please delete yourself and create a new hauler alt who DOESN'T post in the alliance section of the forums, that's a lot more useful PS: G/Iron, to you both: YARRRRRRRR!!! "This is gonna get pretty interesting!" "Define interesting." "Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die!!"
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2005.11.16 12:35:00 - [89] Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Noveron I am not a religious guy, honest, but CYVOK man, remember that a very good guy called Jesus, was crucified around 2005 years ago for trying to do the right thing. You are comparing CYVOK to Jesus? I can promess all ASCN members a fair treatement like that Jesus guy. One slight difference: you will resurect... in new clones After reading this reply, of all the tards, smacktalkers and flamers on this forum, the only one I honestly think must be a major idot in rl is you. - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
heyjoe52	Posted - 2005.11.16 18:36:00 - [90] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Noveron I am not a religious guy, honest, but CYVOK man, remember that a very good guy called Jesus, was crucified around 2005 years ago for trying to do the right thing. You are comparing CYVOK to Jesus? I can promess all ASCN members a fair treatement like that Jesus guy. One slight difference: you will resurect... in new clones After reading this reply, of all the tards, smacktalkers and flamers on this forum, the only one I honestly think must be a major idot in rl is you. actually he might have been one of the best ppl in xetic. You know he's a good guy cause he used to pirate XF then felt bad and joined to teach us nubs a thing or two. I have a fever, and the only thing that cure it... is more cowbell!

Gossip	Posted - 2005.11.16 19:43:00 - [91] As somany are readin here, Im gonna use it... to all my NBSI buddies, heya ---- The pinnacle of military deployment approaches the formless. For if it is formless, no spy can discern it nor the wise make plans against it. Sun Tzu, the art of war
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2005.11.16 19:52:00 - [92] I think he was gone alredy when I joined ddc - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
Demarcus	Posted - 2005.11.16 20:13:00 - [93] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Noveron I am not a religious guy, honest, but CYVOK man, remember that a very good guy called Jesus, was crucified around 2005 years ago for trying to do the right thing. You are comparing CYVOK to Jesus? I can promess all ASCN members a fair treatement like that Jesus guy. One slight difference: you will resurect... in new clones After reading this reply, of all the tards, smacktalkers and flamers on this forum, the only one I honestly think must be a major idot in rl is you. If whomever your talking about can turn Quafe into wine have them convo me. We like to party, we like to get down. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
Roxanna Kell	Posted - 2005.11.16 21:06:00 - [94] Originally by: Akoudoulos Originally by: CYVOK Due to the treachery perpetrated earlier today by G & IRON, who only a few short days ago we negotiated a deal with in good faith, ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. ASCN members will engage anyone who enters ASCN territory. We will try to avoid shooting "Blue" Allies that stray into ASCN Space, but no guarantees until the current situation is resolved. I would also like to state for the record that I am done playing EvE as an ôhonorable & friendly personö. I would like to thank G & IRON for helping me finish my journey to the ôDark Sideö. Thats quite ironic don't you think? you pay back old bills CYVOK, and you take down ppl that trust you and have no idea why. I hope that your people aren't as stupid as you think, your propaganda and manipulation must be stopped blaa blaa blaa blaa blaa,. bla blaa blaa blaa bla, rahahahahahablalalala, www.eve-defence.com
ArcticFox	Posted - 2005.11.17 01:34:00 - [95] Quote: Thats quite ironic don't you think? you pay back old bills CYVOK, and you take down ppl that trust you and have no idea why. I hope that your people aren't as stupid as you think, your propaganda and manipulation must be stopped Fool, you cannot defeat our propaganda. ---------------------------------- "There's no +6 Sword of WTFPWN in Eve." - Er... Some person on the forum...
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.11.17 01:46:00 - [96] Edited by: Grimpak on 17/11/2005 01:47:20 Originally by: ArcticFox Quote: Thats quite ironic don't you think? you pay back old bills CYVOK, and you take down ppl that trust you and have no idea why. I hope that your people aren't as stupid as you think, your propaganda and manipulation must be stopped Fool, you cannot defeat our propaganda. OMFG! MY EARS! MY EYES! MY BRAIN IS MELTING! edit: ok that was my last post for the week, back to the grave I go ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
BlackDog Rackh'am	Posted - 2005.11.17 03:07:00 - [97] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Akoudoulos Originally by: CYVOK Due to the treachery perpetrated earlier today by G & IRON, who only a few short days ago we negotiated a deal with in good faith, ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. ASCN members will engage anyone who enters ASCN territory. We will try to avoid shooting "Blue" Allies that stray into ASCN Space, but no guarantees until the current situation is resolved. I would also like to state for the record that I am done playing EvE as an ôhonorable & friendly personö. I would like to thank G & IRON for helping me finish my journey to the ôDark Sideö. Thats quite ironic don't you think? you pay back old bills CYVOK, and you take down ppl that trust you and have no idea why. I hope that your people aren't as stupid as you think, your propaganda and manipulation must be stopped blaa blaa blaa blaa blaa,. bla blaa blaa blaa bla, rahahahahahablalalala, OOC comment:This is the In-character forum if i'm not mistaken. My buddy is obviously roleplaying an enemy of yours with old scores to settle. It looks like you're roleplaying a todler (spelling?) that's trying to learn how to talk. My question then is,SINCE WHEN DO BABIES FLY SPACESHIPS IN COMBAT?!?!?!?!
Damajin	Posted - 2005.11.17 04:15:00 - [98] honorable.. uhm. right... . yeah..
heyjoe52	Posted - 2005.11.17 08:30:00 - [99] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig I think he was gone alredy when I joined ddc aww come on man, shouldnt make such random comments on things you know so little about. I know its so easy to press post, but its much more fun to enjoy yourself. forum warriors = kids without enough proper face time with RL I have a fever, and the only thing that cure it... is more cowbell!
Trooper B99	Posted - 2005.11.17 10:17:00 - [100] Originally by: ArcticFox Fool, you cannot defeat our propaganda. Oh I see what it is now, stealing MC official responses to use as your progaganda, eh? Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106

Fitz Chivalry	Posted - 2005.11.17 14:27:00 - [101] Originally by: heyjoe52 Originally by: Goberth Ludwig I think he was gone alredy when I joined ddc aww come on man, shouldnt make such random comments on things you know so little about. I know its so easy to press post, but its much more fun to enjoy yourself. forum warriors = kids without enough proper face time with RL I have heard things from people whose opinions and integrity I trust and value from both sides of the ASCN/NBSI fence which lead me to the conclusion that no-one will ever know exactly what went down on the collapse of Xetic and I have pretty much given up trying to understand. We have all chosen sides and lets leave it at that. If it gives you guys a good RP reason to attack us then fine. For myself I have no grudge against NBSI especially, and I think that you have, for most people, lost your spot as most wanted enemies to G/IRON now. The only way I think you are going to get it back is to steal all of CYVOK's supply of Quafe liqueur chocolates or Steelrat's anti-matter cookie recipe.
Lunas Feelgood	Posted - 2005.11.17 16:37:00 - [102] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry I have heard things from people whose opinions and integrity I trust and value from both sides of the ASCN/NBSI fence which lead me to the conclusion that no-one will ever know exactly what went down on the collapse of Xetic and I have pretty much given up trying to understand. We have all chosen sides and lets leave it at that. If it gives you guys a good RP reason to attack us then fine. For myself I have no grudge against NBSI especially, and I think that you have, for most people, lost your spot as most wanted enemies to G/IRON now. The only way I think you are going to get it back is to steal all of CYVOK's supply of Quafe liqueur chocolates or Steelrat's anti-matter cookie recipe. Noooooooo. What do we have to do to get that -10??. Unfair i tell you guys and now you say we arnt even you prime enemy. Its sad we are really not happy with this..
Demarcus	Posted - 2005.11.17 17:23:00 - [103] Originally by: heyjoe52 Originally by: Goberth Ludwig I think he was gone alredy when I joined ddc aww come on man, shouldnt make such random comments on things you know so little about. I know its so easy to press post, but its much more fun to enjoy yourself. forum warriors = kids without enough proper face time with RL Wrong, it equals - I am at work and don't feel like doing any. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
Ez'eKiaL	Posted - 2005.11.17 23:30:00 - [104] hello all I left eve afew months ago and luckily managed to get my char back to find him in ASCN.i log in the next day so i can move out of there space and get back to my friends. 30 jumps through unknown 0.0 in a apoc with everything i own in the hold. i come out of warp to find a gate camp made up of blue pilots, a sigh of relief was BLITZED by everyship locking me and vaporising everything i had. a bleak reminder of eve. i agree with ASCN solidifying there borders and hope they pull it off.No war should be fought based on lies and if G/IRON needed lies to penetrate ASCN space then ill add them to the list of organisation i feel gut moving discust for. One thing that bugs me about eve is that no one can do well for themselves and there organisations without someone feeling its there job to ruin it. Being a former CEO myself i know the pain of seeing your hard work being ruined by teenagers with to much time and hormones. I soon realised that to survive in eve you need good friends to add that muscle you need when kill joys decide your doing to well. I hope IRON/G are the only ones who use this to there advantage. Otherwise eve will be a lonely place.
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2005.11.18 00:51:00 - [105] Originally by: Ez'eKiaL hello all I left eve afew months ago and luckily managed to get my char back to find him in ASCN.i log in the next day so i can move out of there space and get back to my friends. 30 jumps through unknown 0.0 in a apoc with everything i own in the hold. i come out of warp to find a gate camp made up of blue pilots, a sigh of relief was BLITZED by everyship locking me and vaporising everything i had. a bleak reminder of eve. i agree with ASCN solidifying there borders and hope they pull it off.No war should be fought based on lies and if G/IRON needed lies to penetrate ASCN space then ill add them to the list of organisation i feel gut moving discust for. One thing that bugs me about eve is that no one can do well for themselves and there organisations without someone feeling its there job to ruin it. Being a former CEO myself i know the pain of seeing your hard work being ruined by teenagers with to much time and hormones. I soon realised that to survive in eve you need good friends to add that muscle you need when kill joys decide your doing to well. I hope IRON/G are the only ones who use this to there advantage. Otherwise eve will be a lonely place. You've got "Friends of the [5]" in your corp description. I think your corp was one of the few we integrated in XF because we thought you were loyal. You weren't. You corp description prooves it. You got killed ? You deserved it. Loyalty is what is missing in Eve to make organizations more stable. With only a few loyal corporations a small alliance can be stronger than with 50 corporations. Usually the recruitment for alliances is too wide... A lot of corps can join. But numbers don't make you strong. In fact, they make you weak and vulnerable. Most alliances have to face this at some point. It's ASCN's turn. Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
Azeroth Uluntil	Posted - 2005.11.18 02:08:00 - [106] Originally by: Ez'eKiaL hello all I left eve afew months ago and luckily managed to get my char back to find him in ASCN.i log in the next day so i can move out of there space and get back to my friends. 30 jumps through unknown 0.0 in a apoc with everything i own in the hold. i come out of warp to find a gate camp made up of blue pilots, a sigh of relief was BLITZED by everyship locking me and vaporising everything i had. a bleak reminder of eve. i agree with ASCN solidifying there borders and hope they pull it off.No war should be fought based on lies and if G/IRON needed lies to penetrate ASCN space then ill add them to the list of organisation i feel gut moving discust for. One thing that bugs me about eve is that no one can do well for themselves and there organisations without someone feeling its there job to ruin it. Being a former CEO myself i know the pain of seeing your hard work being ruined by teenagers with to much time and hormones. I soon realised that to survive in eve you need good friends to add that muscle you need when kill joys decide your doing to well. I hope IRON/G are the only ones who use this to there advantage. Otherwise eve will be a lonely place. Erm, IRON and G don't need to do anything much to get into ASCN space... Unofficial statement and whatnot.
pringprang	Posted - 2005.11.18 03:38:00 - [107] Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Loyalty is what is missing in Eve to make organizations more stable. With only a few loyal corporations a small alliance can be stronger than with 50 corporations. Usually the recruitment for alliances is too wide... A lot of corps can join. But numbers don't make you strong. In fact, they make you weak and vulnerable. Most alliances have to face this at some point. I'm pretty sure thats what we've been saying the problem with Xetic was. There were too many corps who were proud of the banner but not proud enough of the space we lived in to defend it. The part of your post I quoted is exactly why alliances like ASCN have been forming over the past 6-8 months. _____________________ We are not a mining corp. We are not a pvp corp. We are a 0.0 corp. CoRM is recruiting here
Gabriel BriGGs	Posted - 2005.11.18 04:43:00 - [108] Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil Erm, IRON and G don't need to do anything much to get into ASCN space... Unofficial statement and whatnot.[/quote For sure, nice outposts eh? -------------------------------------------- This is my new sig.
Fitz Chivalry	Posted - 2005.11.18 12:17:00 - [109] Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil Originally by: Ez'eKiaL hello all I left eve afew months ago and luckily managed to get my char back to find him in ASCN.i log in the next day so i can move out of there space and get back to my friends. 30 jumps through unknown 0.0 in a apoc with everything i own in the hold. i come out of warp to find a gate camp made up of blue pilots, a sigh of relief was BLITZED by everyship locking me and vaporising everything i had. a bleak reminder of eve. i agree with ASCN solidifying there borders and hope they pull it off.No war should be fought based on lies and if G/IRON needed lies to penetrate ASCN space then ill add them to the list of organisation i feel gut moving discust for. One thing that bugs me about eve is that no one can do well for themselves and there organisations without someone feeling its there job to ruin it. Being a former CEO myself i know the pain of seeing your hard work being ruined by teenagers with to much time and hormones. I soon realised that to survive in eve you need good friends to add that muscle you need when kill joys decide your doing to well. I hope IRON/G are the only ones who use this to there advantage. Otherwise eve will be a lonely place. Erm, IRON and G don't need to do anything much to get into ASCN space... Unofficial statement and whatnot. Getting into someones space and doing anything meaningful whilst you are there are two different things though aren't they?
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2005.11.19 00:49:00 - [110] Originally by: pringprang Originally by: Elenia Kheynes Loyalty is what is missing in Eve to make organizations more stable. With only a few loyal corporations a small alliance can be stronger than with 50 corporations. Usually the recruitment for alliances is too wide... A lot of corps can join. But numbers don't make you strong. In fact, they make you weak and vulnerable. Most alliances have to face this at some point. I'm pretty sure thats what we've been saying the problem with Xetic was. There were too many corps who were proud of the banner but not proud enough of the space we lived in to defend it. The part of your post I quoted is exactly why alliances like ASCN have been forming over the past 6-8 months. I was about to make a long post. In the end I deleted everything. I can do it in fewer words: ASCN is like that. I consider your recruitment too wide. Getting a spy in your ranks is easy, way too easy and your troops aren't that good. The communication isn't that good either. I've seen several pilots jumping in systems although your alliance members were screaming about the hostiles on alliance channel. Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?

vankar	Posted - 2005.11.19 01:46:00 - [111] I claim Providence and am not nice, of any blues enter providence I may shoot them.
Lunas Feelgood	Posted - 2005.11.19 03:26:00 - [112] Originally by: vankar I claim Providence and am not nice, of any blues enter providence I may shoot them. I beg to differ I claim providence
Demarcus	Posted - 2005.11.19 21:25:00 - [113] Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil Originally by: Ez'eKiaL hello all I left eve afew months ago and luckily managed to get my char back to find him in ASCN.i log in the next day so i can move out of there space and get back to my friends. 30 jumps through unknown 0.0 in a apoc with everything i own in the hold. i come out of warp to find a gate camp made up of blue pilots, a sigh of relief was BLITZED by everyship locking me and vaporising everything i had. a bleak reminder of eve. i agree with ASCN solidifying there borders and hope they pull it off.No war should be fought based on lies and if G/IRON needed lies to penetrate ASCN space then ill add them to the list of organisation i feel gut moving discust for. One thing that bugs me about eve is that no one can do well for themselves and there organisations without someone feeling its there job to ruin it. Being a former CEO myself i know the pain of seeing your hard work being ruined by teenagers with to much time and hormones. I soon realised that to survive in eve you need good friends to add that muscle you need when kill joys decide your doing to well. I hope IRON/G are the only ones who use this to there advantage. Otherwise eve will be a lonely place. Erm, IRON and G don't need to do anything much to get into ASCN space... Unofficial statement and whatnot. No thats an official statement...we even have a video about it. Link ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
Saatar Fora	Posted - 2005.11.19 23:30:00 - [114] Originally by: Trooper B99 Originally by: ArcticFox Fool, you cannot defeat our propaganda. Oh I see what it is now, stealing MC official responses to use as your progaganda, eh? No one may lay complete claim on that gem of multimedia experience. ------- "wheat barley kill anything? are you oats of your mind? I corn belive you just said that, rice I'm off to bed now!" - Draximus Cane
Ez'eKiaL	Posted - 2005.11.21 15:57:00 - [115] i was killed by fix.. who i might add were Blue.. i could not give 2 turds about what the [5] have done. im just a navy pilot and i have not made those choices or acted on them. To much biggin yourselfs up......teenagers..
Xzeria	Posted - 2005.11.21 15:57:00 - [116] Edited by: Xzeria on 21/11/2005 15:57:28 Xetic's Fall: For many old Xetic members who were left fighting on the front lines as we watched ASCN form with assets CLS and DDC took from the alliance funds. With my main character I fought alongside Omist commanders in immensea, tene, and finally the last stands at omist itself. Omist region was a primary defence of 0.0 assets in the above listed regions. In those Fleets I did not see a DDC or a CLS pilot defend those regions as hard as the smaller corporations. We were told by Cyvok they needed to defend their territory. Impass and Feyth were never under as heavy siege durring the final war of Xetic as the other regions, the heavy assaults came to Immensea/Tene/Omist. One of the many excuses why ASCN left Xetic was because of political garble, which in fact many CLS and DDC had alts in the holding corp and had much clout in its ruling body. Today: Self serving interests on the part of ASCN's foundings have now come full circle. "Treachery" as Cyvok has stated is just a matter of side your on and oppertunity for another. ASCN took the "oppertunity" to save their hides durring the last Xetic war. To others like myself that was treachery. In this case to ASCN this is backstabbing, but to G/IRON this is oppertunity. Regardless, we all pay to play the game a different way, the actions you take can be either forgiven, forgotten, or remembered. For better or for worse, from my stand point this has been predicted that ASCN would eventualy succumb to it's own devices sooner or later. ACEN is Xetic Version 2.0 with many of the same ruling corps from Xetic making alot of the same public relations horrors and statements I have seen time and time again. What happened to make the situation: Politics, its in the game no matter what, ensuring your footing in politics is a major objective on the alliance scale. This is a case where leadership failed members again, just like in Xetic. What to do? To the corporations and members of ASCN who have no idea what my post is about, and before you bash it, this is what alot of ppl saw happen and the excuses we were told. I suggest you re-evaluate your choice in leadership you have been following, in times of war real leaders begin to show themselves and false ones take the credit and hide. There is not many places left to run and hide behind now, however can always make a new alliance and cut and run once more...
R'adeh	Posted - 2005.11.21 16:25:00 - [117] Edited by: R''adeh on 21/11/2005 16:27:22 Originally by: Xzeria Edited by: Xzeria on 21/11/2005 15:57:28 Xetic's Fall: blablabla Impass and Feyth were never under as heavy siege durring the final war of Xetic as the other regions, the heavy assaults came to Immensea/Tene/Omist. Today: blablabla Regardless, we all pay to play the game a different way, the actions you take can be either forgiven, forgotten, or remembered. For better or for worse, from my stand point this has been predicted that ASCN would eventualy succumb to it's own devices sooner or later. ACEN is Xetic Version 2.0 with many of the same ruling corps from Xetic making alot of the same public relations horrors and statements I have seen time and time again. blablabla To the corporations and members of ASCN who have no idea what my post is about, and before you bash it, this is what alot of ppl saw happen and the excuses we were told. I suggest you re-evaluate your choice in leadership you have been following, in times of war real leaders begin to show themselves and false ones take the credit and hide. There is not many places left to run and hide behind now, however can always make a new alliance and cut and run once more... First of all, congrats to your new alt! She's pretty Secondly, dude, have you even been in UB5 during the last XF war? I might have been completely wasted, but I remember seeing a ton of MASS/Species/5 ships hammer the station pretty much every day. Guess you weren't there to help either Not that you give me a chance to find out due to your lame alt posting... Thirdly, its ASCN and not ACEN...just in case you didn't know. Lastly, propaganda ftw! C ya on the battlefield "This is gonna get pretty interesting!" "Define interesting." "Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die!!"
Dao 2	Posted - 2005.11.21 20:39:00 - [118] Originally by: Ez'eKiaL i was killed by fix.. who i might add were Blue.. i could not give 2 turds about what the [5] have done. im just a navy pilot and i have not made those choices or acted on them. To much biggin yourselfs up......teenagers.. oye and blaming ur "problems" on teenagers shows u as being very "mature" stop ***ing bout ur problems and blaming it on ppl as being kids, the biggest ***s i know in the game are adults so ** off of "teenagers". And stop feelign sorry for yourself and posting about it here, go do something about it and push it in ur alliance so they do something.
Uggster	Posted - 2005.11.22 11:04:00 - [119] If you were really betrayed then I wish you all the best. If you just hoped that cos you had an outpost you would be left alone then.........
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2005.11.22 11:32:00 - [120] Originally by: Xzeria Edited by: Xzeria on 21/11/2005 16:41:33 Edited by: Xzeria on 21/11/2005 15:57:28 For better or for worse, from my stand point this has been predicted that ASCN would eventualy succumb to it's own devices sooner or later. keep dreaming - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)

Primer Xenius	Posted - 2005.11.22 12:21:00 - [121] Another Xetic revisionist... Quote: Omist region was a primary defence of 0.0 assets in the above listed regions. In those Fleets I did not see a DDC or a CLS pilot defend those regions as hard as the smaller corporations. Dead wrong. Omist was not the primary region of interest. At best, Omist had some REDs running around. Feyt was under siege from MASS and friends and -5-. Quote: We were told by Cyvok they needed to defend their territory. Impass and Feyth were never under as heavy siege durring the final war of Xetic as the other regions, the heavy assaults came to Immensea/Tene/Omist. Utterly clueless. MASS and co made claim for feyt. So in addition to -5-, there was many other corps there fighting Xetic that were simply not in any of the other regions. Immensea was under heavy siege also by -5- but from memory it was largely lost from the onset. The bulk of the fighting occured in Feyt. This is obvious since CLS and DDC had most of the kills and ironically, MASS in the end, took your soft Omist. Quote: Today: Self serving interests on the part of ASCN's foundings have now come full circle. "Treachery" as Cyvok has stated is just a matter of side your on and oppertunity for another. ASCN took the "oppertunity" to save their hides durring the last Xetic war. To others like myself that was treachery. In this case to ASCN this is backstabbing, but to G/IRON this is oppertunity. ASCN Corps represented most of those fighting. This is very evident as Xetic was totally and utterly incapable of even holding a single region after the split (so much for 5000 players - ASCN). This is the main reason why ASCN decided to shed the dead weight. Had Xetic managed to hold a region after the split, even a single one or even put up a reasonable fight, since it still outnumbered -5-, I'd be a lot more understanding. The lazy claim betrayal...well, alot of people felt betrayed when thousands upon thousands of xetic members did nothing to help in the war. I should add that ASCN still had a war with MASS and friends after the split for Feyt which it won. Quote: What to do? To the corporations and members of ASCN who have no idea what my post is about, and before you bash it, this is what alot of ppl saw happen and the excuses we were told. I suggest you re-evaluate your choice in leadership you have been following, in times of war real leaders begin to show themselves and false ones take the credit and hide. There is not many places left to run and hide behind now, however can always make a new alliance and cut and run once more... Considering how utterly wrong some of your information is, I'll pass on your offer of wisdom.
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2005.11.22 13:04:00 - [122] Primer, you're arguing with a one month old alt and well, exceptionnaly, I'm not in the mood of discussing your facts I'll just remind you one thing: who wanted the war against [5] in the first place ? And who made all the mistakes leading to that war while cutting XF from all its potential backup ? Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
Fuffel	Posted - 2005.11.22 14:33:00 - [123] its all fine and dandy and I even understand that it came as a "suprise" to most of the simple members in ASCN things not to do: - dont tell things like: "..we bring in our elite pvp`ers" in a meeting that is held in a friendly tone - dont make deals for SA+FIX if you havent even spoken to them - dont fly a 100 ships in front of our pilots, who are packing to leave - dont post MOD like "we will drive them out of the south" if the deal was about "them" leaving in peace - dont double date, if your not absolutly sure that you can handle both of appointments - dont act so surprised, if you bring nada of your side of the deal and it wont work out the way you planed it ( and please stop reminding us, that we should stick to our part). To put it simple: I agree that getting shot by "blue" guys is not nice, but f** around with a pvp force right in front of you might lead to strange behaviour. Your leaders acted a bit premature to declare our** war as over - on ASCN terms. We entered the talking in good faith, but tbh ASCN is nowhere a force to dictate us what to do and where to move. All your little ISKies cant buy a pleasant time for your carebSring ants in 0.0 at that time - prepare for the inevitable (and stop to argueing on the boards for heavens sake) - g
Chucky	Posted - 2005.11.22 17:22:00 - [124] Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
Acwron	Posted - 2005.11.22 17:31:00 - [125] Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. quoted to make sure you don't edit it.
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2005.11.22 17:31:00 - [126] Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. you didn't get banned already ? Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2005.11.22 17:40:00 - [127] Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. Dude are you stupid or something :\ - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
Uggster	Posted - 2005.11.22 17:48:00 - [128] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. Dude are you stupid or something :\ What he said.....
BlackDog Rackh'am	Posted - 2005.11.22 17:49:00 - [129] Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. NBSI has not been south in force yet. We might do that but we don't like taking credit for things other people do without us, stealing the spotlights is not nice That thing aside,talking like that about a predominantly German group like G is a bit,to put it mildy,overstepping some sensitive boundaries. If you want WWII analogies though,i can give you some for ASCN: Quisling (spelling?) government,Vichy collaborator state,Manchukuo state in Japanese-occupied manchuria etc,etc... There's 2 sides two a coin,but there should be no double standards. Admit you did what was best for yourselves when you tore XF to pieces,and realise that others will do the same at your expense. Failure to grasp that simple fact is failure to understand fundamental politics. There is no good and evil,there is only someone's best interest. Good luck to G/Iron/Razor and have fun to all.
Chucky	Posted - 2005.11.22 18:42:00 - [130] AS I said, history isn't taught anymore. ASCN focus was building, not conquering. But like a quote from your famous leader "tell a lie enough times, it becomes the truth" ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.

HonorHarrington	Posted - 2005.11.22 18:56:00 - [131] Just to be clear. I do not in any way speak for ASCN.However, I know that most/all people in ASCN would find these statements offensive and does not in endorse them.
DANGEROUS	Posted - 2005.11.22 19:02:00 - [132] Well what a very bland thread. I am not politically minded, imo anyone who crosses my path gets into my sights one day. It sounds very much like the ASCN are getting just desserts. As far as stating that G/Iron have stabbed them in the back, it is my full belief that we are viewed as one of the most honorable alliances ingame. It sounds from this thread that there are many many many ex friends of the ASCN corps that have plenty of evidence that unlike us - ASCN are utterly untrustworthy (their leadership i mean). On a personal note, it is very sad that we now have blues (SE) in the south, it used to be open game south of HED - it it wasnt blue kill it, now theres SO many blues and so very FEW reds and neutrals. dam shame that is. Regarding the ascn pilots, indeed all the non 5 pilots that i have fought in the last few months. With few exceptions i have found my 'hostiles' to be very agreeable in local. rarely have i had s##t spouted endlessly (unlike most of 5 and bob). I dont really care what reason the powers that be have to invade a region, what i do know is that IRON is a force to be reckoned with. questions have been asked of us time and time again, and i rarely recall situations where we havent responded aggressivley, decisivly and victoriously. G - what can i say - these guys are simply described as technicians. they are german ffs. vorsprung duch technik and all that, the set ups they run are calcualated, tested, tested again, practiced and then used in battle. their coordiantion in application is trully a display of art. G complments Iron as we do it. we are brothers in arms and should we knock on ur door - - know that we will knock that door down if you do not respond fairly and with thought. I am a VERY proud member of an honorable alliance, that creates its own path that is yet to end in anything other than glory. This post is my personal opinion and does not reflect teh beliefs of teh management for whihc i am not part.
SaorAlba	Posted - 2005.11.22 20:01:00 - [133] I am not sure what is wrong with Chucksor. Ignore his post as it doesn't represent -G- or a fraction of it. We will deal with it internally.
Arekuwa	Posted - 2005.11.22 20:06:00 - [134] Nothing wrong with Chuckz0r... Chucky now, on the other hand...
heyjoe52	Posted - 2005.11.22 20:14:00 - [135] i think chucky just needs a little hug, spent to much time relating eve to real life military events which is not against the EULA or something brought up in the 4s/SAS corp naming. But yeah ban it, lol i really have problems being called the new **** germany. im a pirate only I have a fever, and the only thing that cure it... is more cowbell!
Marcsen	Posted - 2005.11.22 20:22:00 - [136] Originally by: SaorAlba I am not sure what is wrong with Chucksor. Ignore his post as it doesn't represent -G- or a fraction of it. We will deal with it internally. Chucks0r, the ASW Member, is in no way affiliated with this Chucky dude. Chucky is part of ASCN, and i wonder why he hasn't gotten his ass kicked from ASCN and Eve for his H*l Htr comment and the above statement. Multiple petitions were filed concerning the case and nothing is being done. Chucky: End yourself you fascist piece of **. No one in Eve bloody needs you. Have a good day, Marcsen ---[G]---
Chrony	Posted - 2005.11.22 20:26:00 - [137] Edited by: Chrony on 22/11/2005 20:26:23 Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. 1. Dude... didnt you learn anything from the reactions your eve mail to a G member caused in the other thread? 2. This is a game, keep RL stuff out of this. Do you want to say that all germans are ****s and racists? Cus if you are, you are a bigger idiot than all those alts on the corp and alliance forum together.
Buddrow	Posted - 2005.11.22 20:37:00 - [138] Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. you better hope you stay docked during every engagement as you WILL be killed and podded Every time. and i suggest to your alliance to remove you, not only are you an idiot but your an idiot that dosn't even know it. if you are still in ascn in a few days what little respect i still retain will be lost. and you will burn even worse, fool ---------------------------------- "Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move earth." Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2005.11.22 21:14:00 - [139] Dont compare one ascn member with their whole alliance. While this comment is unacceptable, we heard alot worse things in our eve time than this. Petitions never did anything in those cases and im sure they never will. Just use the block function, its saving u some heart attacks Sadly it cannot be used on the forums... -G- Pink Power Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game Darko1107 > like pokemon
raistalin	Posted - 2005.11.22 21:27:00 - [140] Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. That is the worst thing I've ever read on this board, which is saying alot. Sincere apologies to G.

Gyro DuAquin1	Posted - 2005.11.22 21:29:00 - [141] Edited by: Gyro DuAquin1 on 22/11/2005 21:30:32 Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. I dont blame ascn for anything, but this comment is just bs, some smack may be ok. TBH i hope that this is the end of ur employment with ASCN.
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.11.22 21:48:00 - [142] Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 Edited by: Gyro DuAquin1 on 22/11/2005 21:30:32 Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. I dont blame ascn for anything, but this comment is just bs, some smack may be ok. TBH i hope that this is the end of ur employment with ASCN. already asked for that. sincere apologies to G ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
grizouh	Posted - 2005.11.22 21:56:00 - [143] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Dont compare one ascn member with their whole alliance. While this comment is unacceptable, we heard alot worse things in our eve time than this. Petitions never did anything in those cases and im sure they never will. (normally i don¦t like oneword posts without an own opinion but: ) /signed
Coasterbrian	Posted - 2005.11.22 22:05:00 - [144] Please do not believe that what Chucky says is in any way the position of ASCN. Such racist and blatantly disrespectful comments are NOT condoned by our alliance, and I'm quite certain he will be dealt with appropriately. I sincerely apologize to anyone who as offended by his comment. I'm really embarassed to be in the same alliance as this guy. ---------- Originally by: riker to thebold first post w/ your main. Soft and Crunchy 4tw! \o/
hired goon	Posted - 2005.11.22 22:09:00 - [145] Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. You want to stfu mate. -omg-
DANGEROUS	Posted - 2005.11.22 22:21:00 - [146] guys - i would just request that all of us drop this topic of that morons statement that people are cutting and pasting again and again. - - just stop it. - we all know what we think of it. - no comments are required. History for EVErY nationality playing this game is tainted with one wrong or another. and heaven forbide we start talking about the present or the future. this is an UNREAL environment, lets never bring to much REAL into it. - now back to the topic of the thread. no one sees fit to comment on my fantasticly frank post earlier???
John McCreedy	Posted - 2005.11.22 22:23:00 - [147] Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. Chucky, on behalf of the overwhleming majority of ASCN - STFU! Make a Difference
Blue Max	Posted - 2005.11.22 22:24:00 - [148] I agree with COASTERBRIAN. A very regretable choice of words by Chucky. I do not support them. Apologies to all. ~BLUE MAX, AWECO DIRECTOR, ASCN "Maybe today is a good day to die." (Worf), Star Trek First Contact Disclaimer: Views expressed are soley mine and do not represent my corp nor alliance.
Demarcus	Posted - 2005.11.22 22:48:00 - [149] Edited by: Demarcus on 22/11/2005 22:48:34 Don't kick him out of the game just tell us who his main is. I don't think he would end up wanting to play much longer. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
SaorAlba	Posted - 2005.11.22 22:59:00 - [150] Public appoligy to ASW and Chucksor, who I mistakenly held for Chucky. I am very glad it turned out I need new reading glasses.

Jin'Roh	Posted - 2005.11.22 23:03:00 - [151] Edited by: Jin''Roh on 22/11/2005 23:03:25 dont want to interrupt ascn apologies... but you should think about the station name in azn-d2... jin
AfterShock	Posted - 2005.11.22 23:21:00 - [152] Originally by: Chucky Iron/G/NBSI = AXIS Armed Forces in WWII. But history isn't taught anymore, it has to be relived. Apparently this was not a very well thought statement to make on the open forum considering the reaction caused. but i dont think there was any racist reasoning behind his post. I looked up "AXIS Armed Forces in WWII" and could only find it to be German military of some sort? Anyway, I apologize for any ill feelings this may have caused whoever, and hopefully will get Chucky back here to apologize (if this thread dies not get locked).javascript:insertsmilie('','WebPost','text');
Sypher313	Posted - 2005.11.22 23:32:00 - [153] hmm Chucky = Dork waste of bandwidth anyway moving along....... Dangerous, sure i'll give you a reply hmm, now what did you say? hmmm..... oh yeah... ok Yeah good post and welcome back dood
Voltron	Posted - 2005.11.23 00:28:00 - [154] Just so no one thinks NBSI is trying to steal G/IRON/RAZORS credit...while we would LOVE to be part of the pwnage down south atm, we unfortunately are not atm. Hopefully soonTM. And Chucky......get a clue......get an education, GED by mail ftw for you I hope. Volt
VonKaplanek III	Posted - 2005.11.23 00:56:00 - [155] Originally by: Coasterbrian Please do not believe that what Chucky says is in any way the position of ASCN. Such racist and blatantly disrespectful comments are NOT condoned by our alliance, and I'm quite certain he will be dealt with appropriately. I sincerely apologize to anyone who as offended by his comment. I'm really embarassed to be in the same alliance as this guy. What he said... and I'm responding to this comment posted earlier: "ASCN are utterly untrustworthy (their leadership i mean)." Then you dont know our leadership...
Chucky	Posted - 2005.11.23 01:22:00 - [156] My views donÆt represent ASCN or CoRM, they are mine alone and clearly misunderstood. I apologize and will stay out of the forums. ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
ArcticFox	Posted - 2005.11.23 11:14:00 - [157] Originally by: Voltron while we would LOVE to be part of the pwnage down south atm, we unfortunately are not atm. Ah, planning to finish 'pwning' [5] first to finish off that pesky simplicity of your mission statement, eh? Sorry, I really really couldn't resist. I'm sure anyone who is down in the trenches down south here can see that there really hasn't been much movement in either direction yet (I don't mean there hasn't been fighting, but the fighting isn't moving in any discernable direction). ---------------------------------- "There's no +6 Sword of WTFPWN in Eve." - Er... Some person on the forum...

Eshtir	Posted - 2005.11.23 15:20:00 - [158] This thread has been cleaned. For the future, i would like to see you mailing us at [email protected] if you find a post that breaks the Forum Rules. Also a quick reminder, this id an in character forum section. No Out of character posts and no real life politics and history please. -Eshtir forum rules \| [email protected]

Plazmalord Soban	Posted - 2005.11.25 20:20:00 - [159] Im kinda interested in this "deal" that ASCN was supposed to have given to SE to take Omist from the corporations who were founding Knights of the SouthernCross who have lived there since Xetic and SA. If any of you have any documented proof of this contact me in game. Thank you.
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.11.25 21:06:00 - [160] Edited by: Grimpak on 25/11/2005 21:06:45 Originally by: Plazmalord Soban Im kinda interested in this "deal" that ASCN was supposed to have given to SE to take Omist from the corporations who were founding Knights of the SouthernCross who have lived there since Xetic and SA. If any of you have any documented proof of this contact me in game. Thank you. ..if you are talking about the station taking in Omist, it's pretty simple actually: MASS had the stations in Omist (afaik?). Then after the SA-SE civil war started, ASCN leadership, to avoid battles between both factions inside ASCN space, decided to take Omist as a protectorate and close down the region for the duration of the conflict. The region was to be returned when we had a clear view of who won the war and all that. War raged on and when we saw SA was having the upper hand so we returned the region to SA. ...might not be the most correct one, but I think it's rather accurate. about the KOS alliance, i'm sorry, but besides the part of seeing the post in the corp, alliance and organizations discussion section, it's the first time I ever heard from such alliance. ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you

fire 59	Posted - 2005.11.26 08:48:00 - [161] Do me a favour in regards to the xetic crap you talking about, do some homework and get your facts straight yeah, knowledge is a powerful thing, try it
Plazmalord Soban	Posted - 2005.11.26 22:36:00 - [162] Edited by: Plazmalord Soban on 26/11/2005 22:41:00 Grimpak that was not the agreement i was talking about. I am talking about the time that when the people who were in SA who lived in OMIST after ASCN marched in decided to leave SA to pursue their own alliance to only find SE forces namely Xenobytes and Species in our space along with an ASCN scout the very day after Orgs had contacted CYVOK to let him know what we were doin in advance. That was the Deal between SE and ASCN i was refering to. The Fact that ASCN didnt acknowledge KOS as an alliance and allowed SE forces to move in to our space by traveling thru their space. Thats the kinda crap i was refering to. The other crap incident in which u came in to our Region with a 150 pilot fleet and claimed and shot down anyone u saw because we(SA)had decided to go to war with SE and used your space to get to Stain. All of SA was told that we had clearance to travel to get to Paragon Soul and apparently that wasnt cool. So u guys come in and took our region .. "Holding it" for the victor of the SE SA conflict. that matter is close and was handed back just as ASCN said they would. "The deal that was mentioned above by IRON and G was the deal that SE can now have omist cause SA isnt there anymore....." Well.... Now SE got their butts kicked on about every level out here by a bunch of Carebears From KOS. Now KOS wants to know Why SE was given access to Omist in the first place. And who in your heirarchy made that decision. The people down here have honored your right to control your space the way you want and gone thru every formal channel to make sure we remain "Good Neighbors". I personally have even offered to come help when one night Burn Eden forced all of your pilots to dock in Feyth..... Then SE come here... and we ask ASCN if they can send any support for a few days and what is the reply we get ... "SE is not our Problem" If u want Omist fight for it. Well we did and we won. Contact me in game if u want to discuss the matter. But there are alot of upset people down in the Southern region of Omist who feellike ASCN basically allowed an agreesive force come here and lock us out of our stations etc. Just looking for some answers... no more lies.
Philyus	Posted - 2005.11.27 01:56:00 - [163] Edited by: Philyus on 27/11/2005 02:00:09 Plazmalord, we had a NAP with SE. SA broke off and we said that the NAP applied to both parties. Were we suppose to break the NAP with SE so we could "protect" the new guys? As far as I know, no agreement was made with you guys. No mutual defense, no +7.5 status. You guys are not SE or SA. I am not exactly sure why you guys feel like you are entitled to us helping you defend your region. Our policy from the beginning has been "if you want your region, fight for it." Even when we held omist, we wanted SA and SE to fight to decide who would control the stain territory. Congradulations on captuing your stations, glad you took our advice. You still won't get jack form us unless you negociate it. The deal that you speak of has been in place even before Xetic. It is nothing new that we don't shoot SE and are set to a perminate +5. -------------------- I am easily confused. Leave me alone!
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.11.27 23:04:00 - [164] Originally by: Plazmalord Soban Just looking for some answers... no more lies. Originally by: Philyus Edited by: Philyus on 27/11/2005 02:00:09 Plazmalord, we had a NAP with SE. SA broke off and we said that the NAP applied to both parties. Were we suppose to break the NAP with SE so we could "protect" the new guys? As far as I know, no agreement was made with you guys. No mutual defense, no +7.5 status. You guys are not SE or SA. I am not exactly sure why you guys feel like you are entitled to us helping you defend your region. Our policy from the beginning has been "if you want your region, fight for it." Even when we held omist, we wanted SA and SE to fight to decide who would control the stain territory. Congradulations on captuing your stations, glad you took our advice. You still won't get jack form us unless you negociate it. The deal that you speak of has been in place even before Xetic. It is nothing new that we don't shoot SE and are set to a perminate +5. Philyus answered that. And I'm sorry about not being able to contact you ingame. Atm i'm taking a break from EVE. However, I remind you that i'm no diplomat, so if you wish more clarifications about it, use our forums at this place. Diplomatic contacts with the leadership can be arranged there. ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
Roxanne	Posted - 2005.11.28 08:35:00 - [165] Originally by: Philyus The deal that you speak of has been in place even before Xetic. It is nothing new that we don't shoot SE and are set to a perminate +5. Originally by: CYVOK ASCN members will engage anyone who enters ASCN territory. We will try to avoid shooting "Blue" Allies that stray into ASCN Space, but no guarantees until the current situation is resolved. So the 'no fly zone' does not apply to SE?
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.11.28 10:16:00 - [166] Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: Philyus The deal that you speak of has been in place even before Xetic. It is nothing new that we don't shoot SE and are set to a perminate +5. Originally by: CYVOK ASCN members will engage anyone who enters ASCN territory. We will try to avoid shooting "Blue" Allies that stray into ASCN Space, but no guarantees until the current situation is resolved. So the 'no fly zone' does not apply to SE? think the announcement was made AFTER your incident. Not sure tho. ------------------- Celestial Horizon: we go zerg on you
meneolaos Hek	Posted - 2005.11.28 10:40:00 - [167] i think the time is over for hymnes about what you gonna do and what you alliance in this game is going to do. G/IRON and Razor are overwelm you in a swift, you are not outnumbered or outgunned - you easily outskilled by strategic and logistical aspects! eve means more than placing bubbles on the gate, take the station with 50ships, build outpost and penetrate ships crossing sectors under your control - eve is not only tactical short term "search and kill", eve is strategical. you gonna have fun with close borders a play the badboys pirate style, if you smart enough and good enough. but guess now you learn your lesson, your are not as half as clever as you thought, you are not as half as skilled as you thought, you are not as half as organized as you thought. all this threads, all this posts - "well G crashed that node, G outnumbered us there bla bla bla" - nothing but facts that you lost your face, you are no longer a respected alliance in the game, you are nothing more than targets in the days after this! welcome to the world of real strategic gameplay, welcome to your armageddon ASCN! abandon all hope.
insuperable	Posted - 2005.11.28 10:46:00 - [168] Quote: Dead wrong. Omist was not the primary region of interest. At best, Omist had some REDs running around. Feyt was under siege from MASS and friends and -5-. I agree omist wasnt. Feyth was under heavy attack from "The coallition" aka Mass + co. However Immensea was the other region under heavy conflict from -5-. Tene/Omist was under attack from RA, but it wasnt anywhere near as bad as feyth + imm. When e8-y had been lost the immensea inhabitants fought hard and tried to hold z-h2ma and 2o-eew at all costs. However when target painters were released the stations changed hands alot quicker and eventually ALL were lost. It wasnt until we had nothing in immensea except the PH pos where imm inhabitants were taking refuge, that we got an ounce of help from anyone else. However each region in XF should have had its own defence force hence the regional def channels that existed. The reason why XF could no longer defend itself was down to the 'bandwagonning' effect caused by the ASCN split. We stated that we would leave XF if certain things didnt change about 2 weeks prior to actually leaving. With ASCN I only found out as it happened. I dont think anyone was given any prior warning. Interesting... Gallery
Rhodry Amarrian	Posted - 2005.11.28 12:00:00 - [169] Originally by: meneolaos Hek welcome to the world of real strategic gameplay, welcome to your armageddon ASCN! abandon all hope. Well, I am not sure what your issue with ASCN is, but it seems to me that ASCN is trying to play the game in a strategic manner, with the creation of outposts and population centres, trying to do somethign more than just being yet another roaming pvp alliance. Anyone can do what G/IRON are presently doing which is forming gank squads and roaming around in ceptors getting a few kills before retreating to their station or more likely their POS. NBSI have made an art form of the roaming frig fleet and G/IRON are not really doing anything different though they do occasionally bring out the BS but never very far from their POS or station. All the advantages in EVE are with the attacking force not the defenders, strategy hardly comes into it. Why do you think merc forces have so much success? Primarily, because they have no space to defend.
Philyus	Posted - 2005.11.28 17:52:00 - [170] Edited by: Philyus on 28/11/2005 17:51:57 Originally by: Roxanne Originally by: CYVOK ASCN members will engage anyone who enters ASCN territory. We will try to avoid shooting "Blue" Allies that stray into ASCN Space, but no guarantees until the current situation is resolved. So the 'no fly zone' does not apply to SE? I bolded the important part. If we feel we have reason to shoot you, we will shoot. If you are blue and ratting in our space, say bye bye. If you are blue and just quickly passing through, we really don't care. Quote: So the 'no fly zone' does not apply to SE? Originally by: meneolaos Hek G/IRON and Razor are overwelm you in a swift, you are not outnumbered or outgunned - you easily outskilled by strategic and logistical aspects! Please strategicly place yourself outside a POS and into an outpost please. Thanks. -------------------- I am easily confused. Leave me alone!

Roxanne	Posted - 2005.11.28 18:40:00 - [171] Ok, thank you for the clarification. The initial post sounded quite martial and seemed to indicate a total closure of borders for everyone. Good to see that there are exceptions.
Sharigan	Posted - 2005.11.28 19:07:00 - [172] Edited by: Sharigan on 28/11/2005 19:11:57 Originally by: meneolaos Hek i think the time is over for hymnes about what you gonna do and what you alliance in this game is going to do. G/IRON and Razor are overwelm you in a swift, you are not outnumbered or outgunned - you easily outskilled by strategic and logistical aspects! eve means more than placing bubbles on the gate, take the station with 50ships, build outpost and penetrate ships crossing sectors under your control - eve is not only tactical short term "search and kill", eve is strategical. you gonna have fun with close borders a play the badboys pirate style, if you smart enough and good enough. but guess now you learn your lesson, your are not as half as clever as you thought, you are not as half as skilled as you thought, you are not as half as organized as you thought. all this threads, all this posts - "well G crashed that node, G outnumbered us there bla bla bla" - nothing but facts that you lost your face, you are no longer a respected alliance in the game, you are nothing more than targets in the days after this! welcome to the world of real strategic gameplay, welcome to your armageddon ASCN! abandon all hope. We still hold our space. Whether or not you choose to recognize that it stands as a true statement. People can come against us whenever they want, but as long as we still hold our space we are still the victors. G set out to destroy us, by that standard no they have not accomplished they're goal. Now if they were a merc corp being paid to hastle us, then yes they would have accomplished they're goals by now. If the day is ever to come when G defeats ASCN then enjoy sitting back and spreading as much garbage on the forums as you would like. Until then posts like the above just makes you look uneducated. Abandon all hope? Only in people that make posts such as yourself. "And He was asking him, 'What is your name?' And he said to Him, 'My name is Legion; for we are many.'"
Foomanshoe	Posted - 2005.11.30 22:45:00 - [173] Does this include your "protectorate" region of Esoteria? You gonna start shooting Tribes, KOS, SA, FIX, BoB, SE now that are flying around in eso killing people? or are you going to contain your Now fly zone to accual ASCN regions? Can we still fly through azn during EU timezones? _______________________________________________ Originally by: Oveur To the nerfmobile!
Netto	Posted - 2005.12.01 05:35:00 - [174] Originally by: Foomanshoe Does this include your "protectorate" region of Esoteria? You gonna start shooting Tribes, KOS, SA, FIX, BoB, SE now that are flying around in eso killing people? or are you going to contain your Now fly zone to accual ASCN regions? Can we still fly through azn during EU timezones? Awe, you need a hug /huggles! So much bitterness for one so young, tragic :(. Netto
Dao 2	Posted - 2005.12.04 04:42:00 - [175] still cant get over the now fly ;p
Kalixa Hihro	Posted - 2005.12.05 17:45:00 - [176] Originally by: Invisible Touch Edited by: Invisible Touch on 14/11/2005 12:37:18 Announcement after announcement things are sketchy to say the least... One thing I know is that "G" dont post much, and that honor comes with them ingame. So far they have been as serious as one can get ingame. There's much speculation about BoB's stance in all this. Can someone please clarify this? Originally by: Rod Blaine What goes around comes around. Your more recetn delaings have not made you any friends at all, and lost you quite a few. I don't pretend to speak for G or understand their motives, but I bet they don't post a lot because they do their fighting in game with their ships, where it matters, as opposed to a chat window or forum, where it doesn't. Beating the crap out of people in the game is a lot more satisfying and speaks volumes more than a bunch of forum posts. This is my opinion and nothing more.
Berak FalCheran	Posted - 2005.12.07 09:54:00 - [177] Originally by: CYVOK ASCN SPACE is now a NOW FLY Zone. does that mean you have to fly there? Originally by: Malthros Zenobia In short: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
DANGEROUS	Posted - 2005.12.09 11:37:00 - [178] no wonder u lot like static camps so much it gives u time to write all this rubbish in forums the southeners really need to learn to fight and not talk ****e you lot have got fat on ur easy space try the north - its cold and barren and u have to WORK for a life. We come from the north - we FIGHT - we dont spam rubbish!! - - (well much)
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2005.12.09 11:49:00 - [179] Originally by: DANGEROUS we FIGHT - we dont spam rubbish!! - - (well much) 1. Re read you post 2. Find mirror 3. Laugh - Gob (also known as Admiral Goberius)
Chromakey Dreamcoat Caldari Model Of Aggression	Posted - 2007.11.03 00:43:00 - [180] man those dudes G and IRON dudes are a bunch of ******* backstabbers

Gaogan Gallente Solar Storm Sev3rance	Posted - 2007.11.03 03:36:00 - [181] Holy necrophilia batman!
Cordova Caldari Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.03 04:05:00 - [182] Cut it out you children, ISD please lock this thread. -----------------------------------------------
Ungdall Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.03 06:16:00 - [183] I know know who CYVOK!! is, I don't know who you guys are, all I see is necro and my groin is all a tingle.
Anikadir The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.03 11:34:00 - [184] Originally by: Ungdall Edited by: Ungdall on 03/11/2007 07:00:30 I don't know who CYVOK!! is, I don't know who you guys are, all I see is necro and my groin is all a tingle. I believe that there is an ointment you can get for that.
Ungdall Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.03 15:43:00 - [185] Originally by: Anikadir Originally by: Ungdall Edited by: Ungdall on 03/11/2007 07:00:30 I don't know who CYVOK!! is, I don't know who you guys are, all I see is necro and my groin is all a tingle. I believe that there is an ointment you can get for that. Why would I want it to stop?
Ungdall Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:01:00 - [186] Guess which thread hasn't been locked.
Chromakey Dreamcoat Caldari Model Of Aggression	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:04:00 - [187] no which one
Tewdric Sheba Industries INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.11.05 22:50:00 - [188] ISD please lock this thread
Zachri Minmatar IVC Consortium INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.11.06 01:08:00 - [189] Before someone re opens ASCN space please ...

ISD Valorem Amarr ISD STAR	Posted - 2007.11.06 10:45:00 - [190] Please do not bump old threads. click forum rules \| CAOD Rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website




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