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Freighdee Katt
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
199
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Posted - 2013.06.18 14:57:00 -
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consuasor wrote:Out of these, the Rattlesnake and Dominix are really bothersome if you get vexed by losing drones to rat aggro. It can be surprisingly hard to consider drones as consumable ammunition. If you can do that, go for the rattlesnake.
How well would it work to just stock the highs on your Dominix with small/med remote shield reps, drop sentries, and let one rep perma-run on each? Seems like that would keep them from getting killed and pull aggro from them as well. Is the cap demand for five small reps too much to keep them all running without an injector, or are they too trivial to keep up when the drones get shot? |
Morrigan LeSante
The Lost and Forgotten Troopers
294
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Posted - 2013.06.18 16:32:00 -
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For all the drone issues, if you're losing sentries, you ARE doing it wrong. |
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
75
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Posted - 2013.06.19 00:00:00 -
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Freighdee Katt wrote:consuasor wrote:Out of these, the Rattlesnake and Dominix are really bothersome if you get vexed by losing drones to rat aggro. It can be surprisingly hard to consider drones as consumable ammunition. If you can do that, go for the rattlesnake. How well would it work to just stock the highs on your Dominix with small/med remote shield reps, drop sentries, and let one rep perma-run on each? Seems like that would keep them from getting killed and pull aggro from them as well. Is the cap demand for five small reps too much to keep them all running without an injector, or are they too trivial to keep up when the drones get shot?
This is cap stable with good skills. Will probably end badly, but would be fun to try
[Dominix]
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Large Armor Repairer II
Large Armor Repairer II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Small Remote Armor Repair System II
Small Remote Armor Repair System II
Small Remote Armor Repair System II
Small Remote Armor Repair System II
Small Remote Armor Repair System II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Garde II x5
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Darvaleth Sigma
Progressive State
State Section 9
309
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Posted - 2013.06.19 20:55:00 -
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Depends how relaxed you want, and whether you are willing to go to lowsec... also depends how you define "relaxed". In terms of the mission, L4s will never threaten your Aeon's tank... that doesn't mean you'll be particularly relaxed though. 
Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.
Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life! |
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.19 21:24:00 -
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I posted this to another thread today, but here are my L4 fits. Not as much DPS as a BS, but also both full fits are cheaper than one some of the BS hulls mentioned here...
First one: Heavy DPS Drake
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II x3
Shield Recharger II x3
Large Shield Extender II x2
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile x6
Small Tractor Beam I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I x3
Salvage Drone I x2
Hornet EC-300 x3
340DPS
360 Passive Tank
VERY CHEAP!!! (@ 75mil)
Second One: SH Tank Drake
Shield Power Relay II x4
Large Shield Extender II x2
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile x6
Small Tractor Beam I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II x3
Salvage Drone I x2
Hornet EC-300 x3
135 DPS - Low I use it to check out the room
960 Passive Tank
Expensive, But I had a few good scores ;)
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
263
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Posted - 2013.06.20 02:07:00 -
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Darvaleth Sigma wrote:Depends how relaxed you want, and whether you are willing to go to lowsec... also depends how you define "relaxed". In terms of the mission, L4s will never threaten your Aeon's tank... that doesn't mean you'll be particularly relaxed though.
if only aeons could use acceleration gates
You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Clara Valentine
State War Academy
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.06.22 19:35:00 -
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Everyone has posted some great Ideas and fits but they have all missed something obvious, you're a trader and level 4 missions will be for fun and not maximizeing isk income for a whole load of effort (Pulseing boosters/controlling range ect ect.).
For this reason I recomend a Tengu because it's fairly cheap, huge tank (You won't lose it via alt tab and dealing with tradeing), it's fast to warp in/out/dock also does great dps at a decent range.
Above all its really alot of fun to fly and a good ship to upgrade from if you become a more hardcore mission runner.
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster
Pith B-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Corelum B-Type 10MN Afterburner
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Implants-
HM-705
RL-1005
GP-805
TN-905
A full set of Crystal implants would go lovely with this to really make tank extra OP.
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Amma Hurst
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.22 22:15:00 -
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Freighdee Katt wrote:
How well would it work to just stock the highs on your Dominix with small/med remote shield reps, drop sentries, and let one rep perma-run on each? Seems like that would keep them from getting killed and pull aggro from them as well. Is the cap demand for five small reps too much to keep them all running without an injector, or are they too trivial to keep up when the drones get shot?
Well for one you don't want to use up 5 of your targeting slots on sentries The Domi has a max of only 7 targets. Also I have found that for the most part when sentries get aggro it is only one of the 5 that gets it, so you can just target the one getting aggro and rep it.
It has also been my experience that even when I do rep one of my sentries the npc aggro still stays on that sentry and rarely if ever switches to me
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Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2013.06.22 23:21:00 -
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Jivvust wrote:I have no understanding of the combat part of Eve at all.
Practice.
Combat is pretty simple for PvE, though the devs are slowly making it more annoying.
1. You usually know which kind of damage you are going to receive and what you'll have to deal by the faction you are going up against.
2. Don't go up against other empires.
3. Check the mission at eve survival to know what the trigger ships are and other annoying types (scram/web/dampers) there are and make those a high priority.
4. Start with level 1 and level 2 missions, you can learn the basics there.
5. Orbiting and distance can be your best friends or worst enemies.
I can has blogging skills! |
Echhan
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
4
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Posted - 2013.06.26 17:20:00 -
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Jivvust wrote:Wow, this went way better than I expected. A lot of helpful responses, thanks guys :)
To make things a bit clearer, my combat skills being low is not an issue, since I plan to buy a character on Bazaar. My budget is basically unlimited, the only problem being myself - I have no understanding of the combat part of Eve at all.
There is always the Test server (Singularity). Granted, for you, Jiw, ISK is no option, but for others facing the same issues without benefit of a practically bottomless wallet, Test is an option.
Everything costs 100.00 ISK (ships, books, mods, rigs, ammo, etc.) and you can test configurations and techniques and decide for yourself what works best with your own style of play and the only thing you've risked, aside from 20,000 ISK or so, is the time to do it.
Just be aware of mechanics that might be in place on Singularity, but have not been yet released to Tranqulity. It *is* the test server, after all. *grin*
Best of luck... |
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Marcus Walkuris
Aww yeahhh
11
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Posted - 2013.06.27 04:53:00 -
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For easiest and most relaxed there is only one answer.
With maxed drone skills a "mjd AB dominix" will kill at 80-170 km without ever taking a scratch while you drink coffee and scratch your ass.
With its extreme engagement range it is E-war immune and auto-targets.
It does not get more easiest and most relaxed then that. |
dexington
Dexington Corporation
675
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Posted - 2013.06.27 06:40:00 -
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Marcus Walkuris wrote:With maxed drone skills a "mjd AB dominix" will kill at 80-170 km without ever taking a scratch while you drink coffee and scratch your ass.
maxed out is not even needed, drones and drone interfacing are the only 2 skills you need to max, the rest just needs to be 3-4 then you can use faction drones and get close to the same results.
I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
272
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Posted - 2013.06.27 07:43:00 -
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I've been having a ton of fun in my paladin the last few days. sure the mach is faster for most things, but so much easier just sitting still and blaping everything, with a perma tank. did the EA chain twice, both times had an alt in the noctis to loot after. EA 5/5 was a bit boring, seeing as you kill each wave and sit around for a bit waiting for the next spawn, usually perfect time to loot/salvage a bit, but seriously ignoring that part made it so much more relaxing. for the most part you can just use multi, but instant swap crystals if you feel like changing.
I don't really like mjds much, mostly because of the 3m cd.
You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Aurette
Between Realities
1
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Posted - 2013.06.27 07:55:00 -
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Judging by the OP date you are probably set by now? This is more for others in the same situation...
I spent a lot of time doing solo missions in a Drake, then eventually got the skills to use the battleships better than battlecruisers. It did often require jump outs and a lot of speed tanking while nibbling away at the NPC ships. Tedious springs to mind!
Eventually I worked up to Rattlesnake.. yes great if you want to survive low attention towards the mission at times and not loose a lot of ships... ships die.. it happens... this is EVE
When you have clear play time try a long range DPS ship with a Micro Jump Drive as suggested in the previous posts in this thread. The MJD is great for getting out of range of most of the rats, but not all. It does give a lot of new options for how to demolish the room, more fun I think.
What ever you find is more fun to play personally is what you should fly... Since the pirate / rat AI was upgraded my opinion is that huge DPS beats huge tank. Kill the enemy DPS quickly and ideally from out of their range and you're set.
Have a highly tanked battleship for some missions and work up to some sort of Marauder for those times you just want to melt them with big hits.
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Marcus Walkuris
Aww yeahhh
11
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Posted - 2013.06.27 12:13:00 -
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dexington wrote:Marcus Walkuris wrote:With maxed drone skills a "mjd AB dominix" will kill at 80-170 km without ever taking a scratch while you drink coffee and scratch your ass. maxed out is not even needed, drones and drone interfacing are the only 2 skills you need to max, the rest just needs to be 3-4 then you can use faction drones and get close to the same results.
Well let's clarify ^^.
Relevant drone skills at 5, which I refer to mostly due to the range bonus that come with tech II drones around 10% off the top of my head.
Without said skill you will take a hit to your range of-course. |
Feanira Darr
Perkone
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.06.28 09:43:00 -
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I vote rattlesnake
"Tibus Heth could also benefit from working 'The Plan'." -DMC |
Soporo
33
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Posted - 2013.07.07 00:16:00 -
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Why not the Scorpion Navy Issue? Huge tank, extra mids for propulsion mods, variable damage and rof bonus.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
- H.L. Mencken |
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
345
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Posted - 2013.07.08 20:01:00 -
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Jivvust wrote:Wow, this went way better than I expected. A lot of helpful responses, thanks guys :)
To make things a bit clearer, my combat skills being low is not an issue, since I plan to buy a character on Bazaar. My budget is basically unlimited, the only problem being myself - I have no understanding of the combat part of Eve at all.
Then you ought to start with level 1 missions, learn the ropes. I'm not saying you should grind level 1 forever, but do a couple of Storyline cycles of level 1. Each storyline cycle is 16 missions. Then do a couple of storyline cycles worth of level 2 missions. Then do a lot of level 3 missions, like at least 5-6 storyline cycles. |
Cage Man
242
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:05:00 -
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Salpad wrote:Jivvust wrote:Wow, this went way better than I expected. A lot of helpful responses, thanks guys :)
To make things a bit clearer, my combat skills being low is not an issue, since I plan to buy a character on Bazaar. My budget is basically unlimited, the only problem being myself - I have no understanding of the combat part of Eve at all. Then you ought to start with level 1 missions, learn the ropes. I'm not saying you should grind level 1 forever, but do a couple of Storyline cycles of level 1. Each storyline cycle is 16 missions. Then do a couple of storyline cycles worth of level 2 missions. Then do a lot of level 3 missions, like at least 5-6 storyline cycles.
Or just find someone who is keen to have someone to mission with. Check out the helpmymission chat. always people willing to help there.
As to what ship, the easiest is the scorpion navy issue. Drone boats will require you pay attention. if I remember I will post my fit when I get home, if I don't cause I am easily distracted :0 Just drop me an evemail. Happy to help with missions too if you close to where I am when I am on.
The thick plottens... |
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