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F'nog
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:07:00 -
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WTF? I go away to gorge myself senseless for a few hours and there's a million locked "sign here" threads. Are you all really that bored?
 Originally by: rowbin hod
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jamesw
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Frost
Originally by: jamesw
Originally by: Lord Frost
I'm not opposed to the card option... CCP can sell as many cards as they like, when it affects the ingame environment, then it crosses the line. Basically, a noob can make enough isk to buy a t2 bpo after all the thousdands of hours we all put in to try to get one the legit way. Talk about a slap in the face.
It doesnt affect the in game environment. No additional isk is being generated by the time cards.
The isk that is changing hands was already "in play" as it has been earnt, in most cases, legitimately. For that noob to buy a t2 BPO, there has to be another player willing to give that cash up for his timecard. its not like the isk is coming out of thin air.
That's about the worst reasoning I have ever heard.
Yes, I'm sure that guy spending isk for tiemcards "earned" his isk... how did the other lad "earn" his isk? Hmmmm... selling a timecard which he bought for real cash. Is that the future of "earning" in Eve?
btw, I love the term Eve-Bay... I have to give credit to the guy with that one.
I was referring you to saying it effects the "ingame environment". my point is that it does not. The isk being transferred has to be earned one way or another. CCP will get their money one way or another.
I was not making any statements about whether it should or shouldnt be done, merely pointing out the above.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:15:00 -
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Hmmph.
I'll sign.
I have some personal experience with this. I've worked long and hard to make every ISK I have--and thus I value it. Though I have nearly 3 billion in the wallet atm and far more in assets, it matters to me when I spend it and lose it. If I lost 500 million right now, I could count up the days it took me to earn it.
I have a RL friend who recently bought himself like 14 gametime codes and sold them for ISK. He now has over 4 billion ISK, basically none of it earned himself. I can tell from how he acts that he doesn't really value it that much either; as he knows if he wants more, he can just sell more gametime cards.
I have this very, very strong feeling inside that this entire system is wrong on so many levels.
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Saeris Tal'Urduar
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:15:00 -
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Someones gonna get into trouble.
If your gonna do a no content/worthless post put some thouught into it.
Like my newbie or noobie topic.
It was done out of jest but I got some serious responses. 
Becuase I had some 1/2 serious questions
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:16:00 -
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Have to say signed this timecard crap is just a way of getting around the e-bay ban on isk, only reason CCP does not care is unlike on EBay the money is going to them, double standards FTW..
" Stay Frosty "
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Garik Daemon
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:16:00 -
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Just posting this in general:
Keep it on topic, no flames, trolling.
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:16:00 -
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The trading of isk for GTC's will keep more subscribers longer. It allows the people that want to pay for their isk to do so, and it also allows people who don't want to pay for the game anymore - but can come across isk easily - to keep playing.
win - win.
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SilentBladez
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:17:00 -
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Quote:
[Signed]
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Angus Therm0pyle
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:25:00 -
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omg not sign I don't wanan pay for my eve account I am still in high school and ain't got time for a job 
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Kay Thxbye
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:30:00 -
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Originally by: jamesw
CCP will get their money one way or another.
Except that someday people feel that EVE has lost it's character and just changed too much in a negative way and so they cancel their accounts, while others who didn't care so much have already jumped to the next game.
Well, I know, at the moment it looks good for EVE, but imho it's not that difficult to loose customers and destroy a mmorpg by going into a totally wrong direction. Would not be the first time.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.25 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kay Thxbye
Originally by: jamesw
CCP will get their money one way or another.
Except that someday people feel that EVE has lost it's character and just changed too much in a negative way and so they cancel their accounts
I've found that its extremely effective to take a break from EVE every once in a while.
It is, however, impossible to leave. Trying to get away from EVE is like a quark trying to pull its way out of a proton: the farther you go, the harder it pulls you back.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.11.25 05:42:00 -
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i dont see the point of timecards being bought over the net for other then the use of selling them for ingame stuff to others.
if the person who wants more time on his account should use his own cash to buy the extra time directly and get put on the buyers account.
i remember something that started off E&B's downfall into the abyss of ebay and all sorts of mudslinging until it got shut down, you guessed it....gametime cards being sold for ingame items and ingame currency that then ended up on ebay.
those people selling the ingame cards in that game used their out of game wealth to gain ingame advantages.
kinda like where it seems that these gametime cards are going.
how long will it take until CCP gives all who register timecards on their accounts extra skillbonuses or something?
its with great disgust i see that it has started in this game wich i have come to love almost as much as i did E&B.
sad indeed but still not to late for CCP to take off the blinders of past mistakes done in other games from their eyes and see that it is indeed making EvE to start rotting from inside.
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Stephen HB
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Posted - 2005.11.25 05:49:00 -
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/signage
Everyone knows that people WILL find a way to buy ISK with RL cash, but to pave the way with bright shining "$$ for ISK here" signs a.k.a. GTC for ISK is just silly.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.11.25 05:56:00 -
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/signed
The big arguements people give for timecards are bogus, and the day they lose out on an item, bpo, whatever, because of someone who bought ISK, they're going to change their minds really fast and after the fact, just like so many others.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.11.25 06:01:00 -
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Edited by: Dao 2 on 25/11/2005 06:03:35
im for it cause i dont really care and its different then selling isk on ebay, but theres also the 'problem' of when ccp came out with timecodes they said "you could do whatever u want with them, give them to friends or family, great gifts" wahtever (not an exact qoute). So theyd be kinda contradicting themselves :|
but thing is ccp is the one that gives out the timecodes, so ppl give RL cash for timecodes to ccp ;p :|
edit: u wont be getting an accurate number anyway because A LOT of ppl don't read the forums, and im sure some of them would agree with u. Some people don't even know u can buy them as it is
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Stokerpoons
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Posted - 2005.11.25 06:15:00 -
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For what it's worth...
Signed!
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System God
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Posted - 2005.11.25 06:16:00 -
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sighed
no need for it
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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2005.11.25 06:26:00 -
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There has to be alternatives. You have to wonder now if many isk rich players are opening 2nd or 3rd accounts planning on paying for them with ingame isk... or even worse, rich corps making platoons of extra accounts and players for battle and production.
Are timecards a huge profit for CCP? Or, is it even much of a profit for them at all? Either way, you have to believe the company was doing well before GTCs came about. After all they have survived this long and Eve's numbers continue to grow.
I just can't see anything good for the game coming out of this. Whats next? Will I be able to sell my mint condition Sammy Sosa rookie card for 10bil?
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.11.25 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Frost
There has to be alternatives. You have to wonder now if many isk rich players are opening 2nd or 3rd accounts planning on paying for them with ingame isk... or even worse, rich corps making platoons of extra accounts and players for battle and production.
Are timecards a huge profit for CCP? Or, is it even much of a profit for them at all? Either way, you have to believe the company was doing well before GTCs came about. After all they have survived this long and Eve's numbers continue to grow.
I just can't see anything good for the game coming out of this. Whats next? Will I be able to sell my mint condition Sammy Sosa rookie card for 10bil?
i also dont see anything bad coming out of it...
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.11.25 06:56:00 -
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If I could click my fingers and ban this, I would. But then again, I'd never have allowed the equivalents of selling characters. This does all boil down to people getting an in game reward for spending cash and while they can do that running multiple accounts, these two things are things they can do without any effort.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.11.25 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Hmmph.
I'll sign.
I have some personal experience with this. I've worked long and hard to make every ISK I have--and thus I value it. Though I have nearly 3 billion in the wallet atm and far more in assets, it matters to me when I spend it and lose it. If I lost 500 million right now, I could count up the days it took me to earn it.
I have a RL friend who recently bought himself like 14 gametime codes and sold them for ISK. He now has over 4 billion ISK, basically none of it earned himself. I can tell from how he acts that he doesn't really value it that much either; as he knows if he wants more, he can just sell more gametime cards.
I have this very, very strong feeling inside that this entire system is wrong on so many levels.
^ Sums it up pretty damn good.
PS. your friend is lame
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THE NEGRONOID
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Posted - 2005.11.25 07:07:00 -
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YALL NEEDS TO GET SOUL IN YA LIFE
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ChainyMcSmoke
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Posted - 2005.11.25 09:50:00 -
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so !@#$@#$ing signed. And has anyone noticed how quickly this got buried under bs alt posts and a !@# load of forum necromancy.Back to the top baby......
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Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2005.11.25 09:55:00 -
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signed i never thought i would see myself posting this kind of message on this forum, but it just cant go on i know its nice to not pay any RL money for ure eve gamining but these people who are selling mass amounts of game cards are making a ****e load of isk for doing no griding in game work or getting lucky with the research pit. Dont remove money people have already recieved for it but plus make it covered under EULA its so clearly against the whole point ccp originally made that they dont want RL money to indicate how far you could make it in game. This isnt China.
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Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2005.11.25 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Hmmph.
I'll sign.
I have some personal experience with this. I've worked long and hard to make every ISK I have--and thus I value it. Though I have nearly 3 billion in the wallet atm and far more in assets, it matters to me when I spend it and lose it. If I lost 500 million right now, I could count up the days it took me to earn it.
I have a RL friend who recently bought himself like 14 gametime codes and sold them for ISK. He now has over 4 billion ISK, basically none of it earned himself. I can tell from how he acts that he doesn't really value it that much either; as he knows if he wants more, he can just sell more gametime cards.
I have this very, very strong feeling inside that this entire system is wrong on so many levels.
^ Sums it up pretty damn good.
PS. your friend is lame
Although how much he values the isk cant really be argued since people with cap recharger 2 bpos can get hte isk back fairly easy but the difference is the Gods of CCP research pool decided that not his bank ballance.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.11.25 10:04:00 -
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Definatly signed.
I dont see why people with real cash to waste should be able to instantly become rich in a game where everyone else has worked for it.
CCP i know will have a hard time reversing a policy decision, however i hope they see all the threads on the sell forum and act. Stop this now before it gets even worse.
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Willo Vasquez
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Posted - 2005.11.25 10:05:00 -
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signed.
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Drazys
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Posted - 2005.11.25 10:20:00 -
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/signed.
IMHO these time card sales make all discussions about level 4 missions/piracy/cargo hauling/T2 blueprint sales/raising Cyber Gerbiles From Hell to sell to Sansha's Nation/whatever being "too easy ISK" utterly pointless, and in fact selling time cards almost *forces* people to find such easy-ISK sources to be able to compete.
- Drazzy
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Burlock Ironfist
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Posted - 2005.11.25 10:24:00 -
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signed
please keep the game in the game..... its unfair for people wealth in RL to affect there game standing.
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Chinsor
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Posted - 2005.11.25 10:24:00 -
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signed
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