got an abridged version?

I assume its "me mad bra".

I don't buy plex with isk to subscribe my accounts like these useless grinders do

Aaaaaand just like that you've proven to everyone that you know absolutely nothing about which you speak.

Aaaaaand just like that you've proven to everyone that you know absolutely nothing about which you speak.

Really how so? Explain your logic because there wasn't any in that post, didn't expect a post that useless from a member of the new order

4.) Your "official-ransom" idea is alright, but as the dev said you need flesh it out some... What happens if you are in a bubble in nullsec??? Should be perhaps allow pirates to "break their word", while maybe delivering some other consequence? What happens when there are multiple tacklers? Etc, etc, etc..

@Gaigan
I feel as though your post is off topic, as it aims to introduce PVE content instead of the original ideas in the thread. I would suggest making your own thread with these ideas if you are so inspired

One way to make it work would be to have the Ransom contract fail if the ship is destroyed within X amount of time. So if you pay and you get blown up then you get your ransom back. Though it may be unrealistic, it is all i can think of to make it work so far.

Hi,

I'm intrigued by your Ransom Idea so I've moved your thread to Features and Ideas discussion.
Perhaps you could flesh your idea out a bit more, how would this affect Warp bubbles, for example ?

Thanks for your comments though, we do appreciate it.

Player A enters amount of ransom and clicks accept, player B receives the ransom request.
Player B informs player C who is in player B's corporation of just a mate.
Player C aligns and warps and as player C lands, Player B accepts the ransom.
Player C now warp scrams and webs player A.

All this will yield, is more ways to scam people.

How about updating piracy?

I was -10 trying out solo piracy for a year, the odds were really against me but I like a challenge.

One thing that really bothered me were ransoms, I often caught peoples pods and would try ransoming them.
Out of at least 100 pods I caught, only 2 guys payed me, one for 100m the other for 200m and I let both of them go.

The VAST VAST majority of people wont pay you because it's a trust game that other selfish people have ruined for the rest of us by killing them anyways.

I had an idea where a player (could be any player or only those with -5 and lower security status) could right click the character they're attack and select "Ransom" or something of that nature.
The initiating player could then write an amount of isk in the small box and hit accept. If the player on the receiving end of the ransom clicked accept on the box that came up, they would pay the pirate the agreed amount of isk and combat would be instantly stopped for 60 (or XX time) seconds and both locks would be broken for the duration allowing the victim to warp off safely
It's a raw idea that i'm sure could be refined but that's the basic idea.

Sorry; felt it best to snip a portion of your post to allow this idea to be discussed without trolling or derailment - ISD Suvetar

Essentially you want a gameplay mechanic to counter what you see as incorrect gameplay by other players?

Indeed, the man makes a point still.

-10 means absolutely nothing in this game for several reasons and the first one is how easy it is to get it, the little and easy to counter mechanics making so there are so many pawns claiming to be pirates but absolutely not acting like one.
Just random F1 pawns and ransoms honored by the gankee finishing in his ship and pod kill on top of isk loss leads exactly to the point people once caught just don't pay any ransom and wait the dude the light up his guns and finish what he started anyway.


He makes a very good point and should really make someone at CCP interested in piracy to think a bit about his idea that is a really good one, simple, easy to implement but also easy to exploit if not done correctly.

I just checked back to this thread for the first time in a while and I'm really surprised that so many people liked my ransom idea, I really didn't expect that. I also wanted to apologize about the fact that this thread started out as a rant, i'm sorry my temper got the best of me. I just would LOVE to see ccp focus more on lowsec, undeniably the most neglected part of the entire game. You guys were really brainstorming here and that put some hope back into my heart. Again CCP and everyone i'm really sorry this started out as a rant but I hope we can put it back onto a good focused path.

Nice Idea, but yeah, very exploitable. Neutral alts always ruin the day with stuff like this. ;(
Agree to ransom > ransomer can't engage you > neut alt pods you
Agreeing to ransom gives you temporary invulnerability > Use mechanic to fly into enemy fleet at perfect range + warp to 0/cyno

One way to make it work would be to have the Ransom contract fail if the ship is destroyed within X amount of time. So if you pay and you get blown up then you get your ransom back. Though it may be unrealistic, it is all i can think of to make it work so far.

I feel that this title is overly negative, and I'm conflicted on the subject, but I'm willing to give it positive suggestions.

Basic mechanics: Ransom has two boxes. Agressor inputs the amount asked for, the pod inputs a yes/no/counter-offer. If the agressor then accepts, it conveys a 60s invulnerability to locking of the pod by anyone. This timer should be set to 0 upon session change. The ransom should also be automatically declined if you are in the process of ransoming and are podded.

My question is thus:

Why would I pay you more then I stand to loose or have already lost, to convince you to let me go?

The problem is that from my experience, most players, who choose to play, what we call a pirate, are not trying to pro-trey themselves as highwaymen and are in reality just evil people who derive pleasure from the suffering of others. EVE supports this and I have no problem with this, EVE is a PvP game. The issue is that those of us on the other side of these exchanges have no way of knowing weather any individual "Pirate or Pirate Corp" is Type A or Type B.

Now If I land in a bubble get webbed, scrammed and neuted, I am effectively trapped and would consider paying a toll or ransom to be let on my way. This option and mechanic would then be in the hands of the Piratesa

Come to think of it, "articles of safe passage" sounds like a really good idea. Say it was issued by a corporation, it would flag the pilot's ship in a manner similar to being in-corp, in-fleet, or in-alliance (just a different color), so that corp members, etc. would recognize the safe-passage status of the pilot (and make whatever decision they wanted to, not necessarily enforced by game mechanics, though it could be). This would be very helpful for encouraging independent miner/hauler corps operating in pirate space (which would seem to help open up low/nullsec more).

Come to think of it, "articles of safe passage" sounds like a really good idea. Say it was issued by a corporation, it would flag the pilot's ship in a manner similar to being in-corp, in-fleet, or in-alliance (just a different color), so that corp members, etc. would recognize the safe-passage status of the pilot (and make whatever decision they wanted to, not necessarily enforced by game mechanics, though it could be). This would be very helpful for encouraging independent miner/hauler corps operating in pirate space (which would seem to help open up low/nullsec more).