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Grimpak Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce 960	Posted - 2013.07.02 06:39:00 - [121] - Quote Gallowmere Rorschach wrote: Grimpak wrote: well you know how complains are. they are sooo much easier to make than actually do something, because you need to, you know, work for it. Confirming that effort is easily the scariest word in Eve. OHGODS EFFORT! Merovee wrote: WOW! That was easy, even twice. gf HEY! CCP how about make it a little harder to hack and disband an alliance. Goons have done it twice, so why don't you make a littler harder to do next time, like take it to the next level. complaining about alliances taken down by deceit and betrayal shocker. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img] [quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Don Purple Snuggle Factory 16	Posted - 2013.07.02 06:46:00 - [122] - Quote I have a nerd boner right now.
Iudicium Vastus Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 38	Posted - 2013.07.02 06:50:00 - [123] - Quote Grimpak wrote: Gallowmere Rorschach wrote: Grimpak wrote: well you know how complains are. they are sooo much easier to make than actually do something, because you need to, you know, work for it. Confirming that effort is easily the scariest word in Eve. OHGODS EFFORT! Merovee wrote: WOW! That was easy, even twice. gf HEY! CCP how about make it a little harder to hack and disband an alliance. Goons have done it twice, so why don't you make a littler harder to do next time, like take it to the next level. complaining about alliances taken down by deceit and betrayal shocker. Still, it's the start of qualifying as just a one trick pony. Might've been impressive the first time. But now.... yawwn
Mark Androcius 154	Posted - 2013.07.02 06:56:00 - [124] - Quote I don't think The Mittani has anything to do with this, to be honest. I mean if he was, MAN did he ever forget to prepare for a lot of things, like dropping tcu's there directly after the fact for example. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 342	Posted - 2013.07.02 06:57:00 - [125] - Quote Iudicium Vastus wrote: Still, it's the start of qualifying as just a one trick pony. Might've been impressive the first time. But now.... yawwn Those who refuse to learn by history, are doomed to repeat it. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3757	Posted - 2013.07.02 06:58:00 - [126] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: MeBiatch wrote: if i were n3 i would tell dinner to take the space while they are busy killing goons. goons getting neutered is more important atm then anything else. If I were Dinner, I'd leave Catch and go to Fountain to fight TEST with CFC. Then I'd employ CFC aid to take Querious from NC. Employ the CFC? Surely you mean PL. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3757	Posted - 2013.07.02 06:59:00 - [127] - Quote Mark Androcius wrote: I don't think The Mittani has anything to do with this, to be honest. I mean if he was, MAN did he ever forget to prepare for a lot of things, like dropping tcu's there directly after the fact for example. I would be surprised if he didn't know, but but seems someone else (maybe more than one person) was involved in helping that guy get to, and push, the button. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector
Riot Girl Thundercats The Initiative. 1197	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:02:00 - [128] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Employ the CFC? Surely you mean PL. That's not really what I meant. Oh god.
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 342	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:12:00 - [129] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Mark Androcius wrote: I don't think The Mittani has anything to do with this, to be honest. I mean if he was, MAN did he ever forget to prepare for a lot of things, like dropping tcu's there directly after the fact for example. I would be surprised if he didn't know, but but seems someone else (maybe more than one person) was involved in helping that guy get to, and push, the button. That he was allowed to push the button in the first place was the problem. It's a lesson (in all games really) that officers are to be trusted only so far, due to this potential. In WoW it's not deleting the guild bank and taking the gold (that all can be replaced), it's splintering the guild and taking your best players away. Which is why officers are best to be RL friends and/or family, as you have to meet that guy/gal in RL...and no game is worth destroying both being friends and having a family. Like BoB, Solar trusted random strangers on the internet. That's like giving someone your pin number to a total stranger. If you can't recruit offline with friends or family to protect assets, you really shouldn't have an alliance. As you will get hit like this, especially in a game where crime is allowed. Street smarts is needed, and geeks better get with the program. There's no cops here, and fun and games can end pretty badly. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Kult Altol Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet 537	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:20:00 - [130] - Quote yawn null sec neck beard space. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind. -irregardless, I'm with Yolo Swaggins, and the followship of the bling.-á

Infinity Ziona Cloakers 157	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:39:00 - [131] - Quote Grimpak wrote: Gallowmere Rorschach wrote: Grimpak wrote: well you know how complains are. they are sooo much easier to make than actually do something, because you need to, you know, work for it. Confirming that effort is easily the scariest word in Eve. OHGODS EFFORT! Merovee wrote: WOW! That was easy, even twice. gf HEY! CCP how about make it a little harder to hack and disband an alliance. Goons have done it twice, so why don't you make a littler harder to do next time, like take it to the next level. complaining about alliances taken down by deceit and betrayal shocker. Little too easy when one player can destroy the work of thousands with very little effort. These things would make more sense if they were done by a core group of officers. One player, no sense at all. Alliances suck so all in all a good thing.
Riot Girl Thundercats The Initiative. 1197	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:44:00 - [132] - Quote Infinity Ziona wrote: Little too easy when one player can destroy the work of thousands They destroyed their own work. Oh god.
baltec1 Bat Country 7126	Posted - 2013.07.02 07:54:00 - [133] - Quote Quote: Little too easy when one player can destroy the work of thousands with very little effort. These things would make more sense if they were done by a core group of officers. One player, no sense at all. Alliances suck so all in all a good thing. The only work those thousands ever did was slave away in the isk mines of their masters.
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 918	Posted - 2013.07.02 08:00:00 - [134] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Employ the CFC? Surely you mean PL. That's not really what I meant. Were you searching for the word "use" ? Ask me next time you don't know. removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Riot Girl Thundercats The Initiative. 1198	Posted - 2013.07.02 09:59:00 - [135] - Quote More of a mutual agreement. Oh god.
Ramael Hashur Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2013.07.02 10:06:00 - [136] - Quote I find it funny that people who are affected negatively by this complain about unfair game mechanics and that it's not fair. And then the same people say that ganking and bumping and gate camps are completely fine and 100% okay and allowed. Make up your ruttin' minds. I for one, think that all is fair in love and war. What the Goons managed to pull off with this is awesome, it's a feat worth recognizing.
Sugar Von MurdererTits D'reg The Methodical Alliance 62	Posted - 2013.07.02 10:50:00 - [137] - Quote From what I understand, Goons had nothing to do with it except maybe giving some disgruntled, barely active Nulli CEO a bit of advice. It obviously wasn't planned or the mop up operation wouldn't be going so damn fast. I could be wrong though.
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 344	Posted - 2013.07.02 12:11:00 - [138] - Quote Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote: From what I understand, Goons had nothing to do with it except maybe giving some disgruntled, barely active Nulli CEO a bit of advice. It obviously wasn't planned or the mop up operation wouldn't be going so damn fast. I could be wrong though. It's pretty well planned when it goes very smoothly. It's just history repeating itself. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 344	Posted - 2013.07.02 12:16:00 - [139] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Quote: Little too easy when one player can destroy the work of thousands with very little effort. These things would make more sense if they were done by a core group of officers. One player, no sense at all. Alliances suck so all in all a good thing. The only work those thousands ever did was slave away in the isk mines of their masters. Blue doughnut became the prey. Like with James and crew selling "miner protection". Why to play with RL friends and family, because of what "pubbies" like to do. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Tyrendian Biohazard Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance 59	Posted - 2013.07.02 12:41:00 - [140] - Quote Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote: From what I understand, Goons had nothing to do with it except maybe giving some disgruntled, barely active Nulli CEO a bit of advice. It obviously wasn't planned or the mop up operation wouldn't be going so damn fast. I could be wrong though. I don' t know about that. There are insinuations that it was planned, albeit short notice. We'll never really know for sure unless someone speaks up. That being said, I'm surprised (or maybe I've missed it) that nobody has argued the fact that the account seemed to be shared among several people. Having an account hacked and things (isk, sov) restored is one thing, willingly sharing your information with others is a completely different scenario. As with the theme of Eve: you risked it, you lost it. Tough shite. EDIT: I can haz typing skills, derp My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51

Sugar Von MurdererTits D'reg The Methodical Alliance 62	Posted - 2013.07.02 12:54:00 - [141] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote: From what I understand, Goons had nothing to do with it except maybe giving some disgruntled, barely active Nulli CEO a bit of advice. It obviously wasn't planned or the mop up operation wouldn't be going so damn fast. I could be wrong though. It's pretty well planned when it goes very smoothly. It's just history repeating itself. My point was that it almost certainly wasn't a goon plot to bring down S2N and advance the Fountain war, contrary to what a lot of people seem to be thinking. According to Totalini over on TM.com: Quote: It was Xenophilius Lovegood. A director in LNAW. Xeno used to be a member of the diplo team and High Command in S2N, he got removed from the high command and the diplo team for being inactive for about 6 months. He suddenly became active after this and pretty much emoed out and used his friends account to do as much damage as possible.
Speedkermit Damo Callide Vulpis Curatores Veritatis Alliance 71	Posted - 2013.07.02 14:03:00 - [142] - Quote Whats more funny is the sight of Goons frantically backpedalling as it becomes apparant that they have pissed off Pandemic Legion. Don't Panic.
flakeys Interstellar Corporation of Science and Technology Interstellar Confederation 1206	Posted - 2013.07.02 15:21:00 - [143] - Quote Speedkermit Damo wrote: Whats more funny is the sight of Goons frantically backpedalling as it becomes apparant that they have pissed off Pandemic Legion. From ''mittani gives his regards '''SMUG to '''We didn't have anything to do with it'' WHELP Incoming backfire in 5 4 3 2 1 .......... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
baltec1 Bat Country 7147	Posted - 2013.07.02 15:25:00 - [144] - Quote Speedkermit Damo wrote: Whats more funny is the sight of Goons frantically backpedalling as it becomes apparant that they have pissed off Pandemic Legion. We are?
Tyrendian Biohazard Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance 64	Posted - 2013.07.02 15:29:00 - [145] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Speedkermit Damo wrote: Whats more funny is the sight of Goons frantically backpedalling as it becomes apparant that they have pissed off Pandemic Legion. We are? Certainly contradicts all the "Get in fleet, burn burn burn" pings I've been getting. I figured PL would've been happy to jump in all their supers/caps to go do something. My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 947	Posted - 2013.07.02 18:14:00 - [146] - Quote Ace Uoweme wrote: La Nariz wrote: For all of you pubbies whining about skill, guile is a skill. And how you Goons want to destroy EvE too? That was your original plan. And since this zebra doesn't change it's stripes...... Please try again with coherent sentences in Spanish or English. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 4848	Posted - 2013.07.02 18:34:00 - [147] - Quote Quote: S2NC and OPSEC were disbanded by the account of our former head diplo, whether it was actually him or one of the handful of people we knew had the login to the account is yet to be confirmed. I love it when people shoot themselves in the foot and admit to account sharing. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3758	Posted - 2013.07.02 18:49:00 - [148] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Quote: S2NC and OPSEC were disbanded by the account of our former head diplo, whether it was actually him or one of the handful of people we knew had the login to the account is yet to be confirmed. I love it when people shoot themselves in the foot and admit to account sharing. Wait... account sharing? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. TEST Defence, Please Ignore Projecting regards and power all over your space. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/%27Regard%27_I_Power_Projector
Tyrendian Biohazard Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance 75	Posted - 2013.07.02 18:55:00 - [149] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Quote: S2NC and OPSEC were disbanded by the account of our former head diplo, whether it was actually him or one of the handful of people we knew had the login to the account is yet to be confirmed. I love it when people shoot themselves in the foot and admit to account sharing. Wait... account sharing? Indeed. 22. You may not share your account password with anyone. Infraction of this rule is done at your own risk. Further information on account transfers can be found in the EULA. Admitting it was shared is going to make the hacking portion much harder to prove as the "hacker" can claim it was shared with them, and it just turns into a big he said/she said. My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51 Say NO-áto CCP-EA. -áRehabilitate Frank!!
Leigh Akiga State War Academy Caldari State 18	Posted - 2013.07.02 19:06:00 - [150] - Quote Sugar Von MurdererTits wrote: From what I understand, Goons had nothing to do with it except maybe giving some disgruntled, barely active Nulli CEO a bit of advice. It obviously wasn't planned or the mop up operation wouldn't be going so damn fast. I could be wrong though. One thing it did was expose this blue horseshoe. Theres been a lot of talk about the blue donut over the last year and hurf blurf about how nobody wants to fight anybody because of 'sov' Then goons go on the warpath and everyone with no dog in the race can just show up for fights. Sov gets dropped in 200 renter systems and all of a sudden Shadoo is tweeting about how he has to resub to 'fix' the problem, the problem being that the rent must flow. Over 24 hours an ungodly amount of hitpoints and sov is grinded whereas before everyone said it was too much hassle, until the rent is threatened, thus revealing the blue horseshoe and the heart of everything that is wrong in 0.0 today: renters- alliances that will conquer space, not to live or play or cultivate it, but to rent it out, then unsub



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