Wow. Quite impressive.

Just posting in a soon to be Tin-Foil thread.

If you can't win by skill through the front door might as well use cheap underhanded tactics to go through the back door.

If you can't win by skill through the front door might as well use cheap underhanded tactics to go through the back door.

If you can't win by skill through the front door might as well use cheap underhanded tactics to go through the back door.

If you can't win by skill through the front door might as well use cheap underhanded tactics to go through the back door.

Haha unironic space bushido

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/S2N_Citizens

207 systems. 43 stations.
Welp.

GrrGoons.

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http://i.imgur.com/iqN994w.jpg
and
http://themittani.com/news/breaking-s2n-citizens-nulli-legio-disbanded

Has little to do with 'space bushido' and more to do with playing a video game for fun and not to win by any means necessary. How many big space battles are not going to happen now because of this? Lots. You sacrificed fun pew pew for isk and so you can say you win? You can't pay your mother rent for your basement room with isk, there's no need to accumulate that much.

It would be like playing chess with someone, and when they realize you are probably going to beat them they grab the chess board and fling it and all the pieces up into the air. "Hey I didn't lose that game of chess you did."

Has little to do with 'space bushido' and more to do with playing a video game for fun and not to win by any means necessary. How many big space battles are not going to happen now because of this? Lots. You sacrificed fun pew pew for isk and so you can say you win? You can't pay your mother rent for your basement room with isk, there's no need to accumulate that much.

It would be like playing chess with someone, and when they realize you are probably going to beat them they grab the chess board and fling it and all the pieces up into the air. "Hey I didn't lose that game of chess you did."

If you can't win by skill through the front door might as well use cheap underhanded tactics to go through the back door.

If you can't win by skill through the front door might as well use cheap underhanded tactics to go through the back door.

If you can't win by skill through the front door might as well use cheap underhanded tactics to go through the back door.

Has little to do with 'space bushido' and more to do with playing a video game for fun and not to win by any means necessary. How many big space battles are not going to happen now because of this? Lots. You sacrificed fun pew pew for isk and so you can say you win? You can't pay your mother rent for your basement room with isk, there's no need to accumulate that much.

It would be like playing chess with someone, and when they realize you are probably going to beat them they grab the chess board and fling it and all the pieces up into the air. "Hey I didn't lose that game of chess you did."

I am going to laugh so ******* hard when the same thing happens to Go on swarm. Karma is a ***** you know.

Has little to do with 'space bushido' and more to do with playing a video game for fun and not to win by any means necessary. How many big space battles are not going to happen now because of this? Lots. You sacrificed fun pew pew for isk and so you can say you win? You can't pay your mother rent for your basement room with isk, there's no need to accumulate that much.

It would be like playing chess with someone, and when they realize you are probably going to beat them they grab the chess board and fling it and all the pieces up into the air. "Hey I didn't lose that game of chess you did."

We don't want gudfights we want Fountain.

Of course who'd want to have fun fights when you can win, amirite?

For the record I feel I should say I have no dog in this fight I just think you guys are lame.

For the record I feel I should say I have no dog in this fight I just think you guys are lame.

This is truly one for the ages

god I love this game

In before ''I can get my assets out with my spy''.

Corp shares left in the corp wallet.

Sympathy = none.

Crap like this is why most of us want nothing to do with 0.0.

we're regular backdoor bandits

Of course who'd want to have fun fights when you can win, amirite?

For the record I feel I should say I have no dog in this fight I just think you guys are lame.

What's fun about getting 250 capital ships dumped on you?

This was never about fun it was about taking assets that will allow us to pay for our fun in the future. Welcome to war.

It's weird how people who aren't participating in nullsec have these weird conceptions about the "fun" of fighting sov wars. It's like they've never been there and are clueless or something.

The Mittani sends his regards.

Aww c'mon man, this is like watching an M. Night Shyamalan movie.

What's fun about getting 250 capital ships dumped on you?

If you can't win by skill through the front door might as well use cheap underhanded tactics to go through the back door.

Our glorious space empire is so fabulous. Truly we are the most magnificent, daring, glamorous individuals to have graced this sordid heterosexual universe.

Has little to do with 'space bushido' and more to do with playing a video game for fun and not to win by any means necessary. How many big space battles are not going to happen now because of this? Lots. You sacrificed fun pew pew for isk and so you can say you win? You can't pay your mother rent for your basement room with isk, there's no need to accumulate that much.

It would be like playing chess with someone, and when they realize you are probably going to beat them they grab the chess board and fling it and all the pieces up into the air. "Hey I didn't lose that game of chess you did."

if i were n3 i would tell dinner to take the space while they are busy killing goons. goons getting neutered is more important atm then anything else.

If you can't win by skill through the front door might as well use cheap underhanded tactics to go through the back door.

Has little to do with 'space bushido' and more to do with playing a video game for fun and not to win by any means necessary. How many big space battles are not going to happen now because of this? Lots. You sacrificed fun pew pew for isk and so you can say you win? You can't pay your mother rent for your basement room with isk, there's no need to accumulate that much.

It would be like playing chess with someone, and when they realize you are probably going to beat them they grab the chess board and fling it and all the pieces up into the air. "Hey I didn't lose that game of chess you did."

What just happened?

A twist.

A twist.

If you can't win by skill through the front door might as well use cheap underhanded tactics to go through the back door.

http://themittani.com/news/breaking-s2n-citizens-nulli-legio-disbanded

This game is not like chess. I'm having lots of fun, it's been 45 minutes since I heard this happened and I'm still laughing.

Espionage is a part of this game, if you can't handle that I encourage you to pursue activities in games where it isn't allowed.

I have found that most people who rail against this kind of stuff that actually do have null experience fall into one of two categories.

1: The victims of it. Of course, they aren't going to like it.
2: People who's nullsec experience consists of random roams from either NPC null, or their low/highsec staging system every once in a while. These guys are especially obnoxious, because since they went ten or fifteen jumps into Syndicate a few times, they think they know exactly what sov warfare is all about, and how it should be played.

Information?

207 systems have been lost and at least 33 stations (most likely 43) are in lockdown with no access until someone takes over the system in Nulli Secunda's renter block. 400 billion in renter fees have been taken and the executor corporation taken over. All other corps in S2N Citizens' alliance have been kicked and due to wardecs cannot do anything for a week. The former director in S2N Holdings who did all this has joined Circle-of-Two (A CFC alliance).

At a stoke one of TESTs biggest allies has been effectively brought to its knees and must pull out of Fountain to fight to regain all of its lost space before angry Russians take it for themselves.

Hey there's nothing wrong with npc null in Syndicate! It's actually quite fun.

Better than lowsec anyways =(.

Everyone! Quiet down! You hear that? It's the sound of the enemies will to fight getting sucked out of them by the this mysterious vacuum recently created in ER.

207 systems have been lost and at least 33 stations (most likely 43) are in lockdown with no access until someone takes over the system in Nulli Secunda's renter block. 400 billion in renter fees have been taken and the executor corporation taken over. All other corps in S2N Citizens' alliance have been kicked and due to wardecs cannot do anything for a week. The former director in S2N Holdings who did all this has joined Circle-of-Two (A CFC alliance).

At a stoke one of TESTs biggest allies has been effectively brought to its knees and must pull out of Fountain to fight to regain all of its lost space before angry Russians take it for themselves.

Nulli Secunda's renter block.

This. Espionage is the biggest part of this game. Period.

Aw lawd. Did ProGod accidentally all of his renters? O_O

I find lowsec to be a much more target rich environment. The targets may not be as big, but there's a lot more of them, and I can always fly a smaller ship. ;)

Plus, I'm sure it is fun, since you get the fun of null without all of the bullshit that comes with sov, hence my comment. People who have never dealt with the gutterfuck that is sov warfare have no business commenting on it.

Agreed.

And yea I used to think lowsec was fun and target rich, but now with all the LP farming its a letdown after letdown.

NPC null is quite a bit more fun if you want hassle-less combat and good roams.

Besides... people like Pizza, Goons, TEST, Nulli etc come through all the time! We get BO hotdropped, cyno hotdropped, bombers bar has brought some prophecies to play in our yard once or twice...

Never a dull moment!

[ The former director in S2N Holdings who did all this has joined Circle-of-Two (A CFC alliance).

400 billion in renter fees have been taken and the executor corporation taken over. All other corps in S2N Citizens' alliance have been kicked and due to wardecs cannot do anything for a week. The former director in S2N Holdings who did all this has joined Circle-of-Two (A CFC alliance).

Well that makes a case for staying in an NPC corp.

It would seem that you didn't really need a reason.

I've been in player corps before on different characters. Problem is finding a decent player corp. not as easy as it sounds.

I've been in player corps before on different characters. Problem is finding a decent player corp. not as easy as it sounds.

Which leaves 95% of the people out of "biggest part" of the game?

Makes perfect sense to me....

Has little to do with 'space bushido' and more to do with playing a video game for fun and not to win by any means necessary. How many big space battles are not going to happen now because of this? Lots. You sacrificed fun pew pew for isk and so you can say you win? You can't pay your mother rent for your basement room with isk, there's no need to accumulate that much.

It would be like playing chess with someone, and when they realize you are probably going to beat them they grab the chess board and fling it and all the pieces up into the air. "Hey I didn't lose that game of chess you did."

Oh, wow, surprise. The 1 billionth smug goon thread in Eve.Yay, alliance disbanded, we get to hear how the goons are bad and tough and superior and underhanded and subtle and all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The hive takes comfort in the hive.

What an original and well thought out post that contributes to the topic! I've definitely not seen this kind of original content before. Tell me, where do you draw inspiration from? Where can I learn to post as well as "Ban Bindy"?

Kugu.

Oh, wow, surprise. The 1 billionth smug goon thread in Eve.Yay, alliance disbanded, we get to hear how the goons are bad and tough and superior and underhanded and subtle and all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The hive takes comfort in the hive.

What we if stopped complaining about the goons and started shooting them instead?

[quote=Herzog Wolfhammer]
well you know how complains are. they are sooo much easier to make than actually do something, because you need to, you know, work for it.

You must be pretty dense- "biggest" in this context means "most important", I don't know if it's the biggest part of eve, but it's a huge part of the politics of any large corp or alliance, whether you're in null, high, or low sec.

Most of eve doesn't participate because, like you, they're way too dumb and unsubtle to be an effective spy.

I wonder what the average goon wallet size is by now.

Nulli:

"hey lets **** with goons"
"yeah pretty good idea man"



oops somebody lost their stuff.

Nulli:

"hey lets **** with goons"
"yeah pretty good idea man"


oops somebody lost their stuff.

Better run out and buy your plex now, this spy is now one of the wealthiest players and needs to create alts and will buy up ALLLL the plex available, if it was me I would, plex prices going UP

WOW! That was easy, even twice. gf

HEY! CCP how about make it a little harder to hack and disband an alliance. Goons have done it twice, so why don't you make a littler harder to do next time, like take it to the next level.

I'm sure CCP must be proud that the largest sov holding alliance were renters

fix sov

For all of you pubbies whining about skill, guile is a skill.

if i were n3 i would tell dinner to take the space while they are busy killing goons. goons getting neutered is more important atm then anything else.

Confirming that effort is easily the scariest word in Eve.

WOW! That was easy, even twice. gf

HEY! CCP how about make it a little harder to hack and disband an alliance. Goons have done it twice, so why don't you make a littler harder to do next time, like take it to the next level.

OHGODS EFFORT!



complaining about alliances taken down by deceit and betrayal shocker.

Still, it's the start of qualifying as just a one trick pony. Might've been impressive the first time. But now....

yawwn

If I were Dinner, I'd leave Catch and go to Fountain to fight TEST with CFC. Then I'd employ CFC aid to take Querious from NC.

I don't think The Mittani has anything to do with this, to be honest.
I mean if he was, MAN did he ever forget to prepare for a lot of things, like dropping tcu's there directly after the fact for example.

Employ the CFC? Surely you mean PL.

I would be surprised if he didn't know, but but seems someone else (maybe more than one person) was involved in helping that guy get to, and push, the button.

OHGODS EFFORT!



complaining about alliances taken down by deceit and betrayal shocker.

Little too easy when one player can destroy the work of thousands

Little too easy when one player can destroy the work of thousands with very little effort. These things would make more sense if they were done by a core group of officers. One player, no sense at all. Alliances suck so all in all a good thing.

That's not really what I meant.

From what I understand, Goons had nothing to do with it except maybe giving some disgruntled, barely active Nulli CEO a bit of advice. It obviously wasn't planned or the mop up operation wouldn't be going so damn fast.

I could be wrong though.

The only work those thousands ever did was slave away in the isk mines of their masters.

From what I understand, Goons had nothing to do with it except maybe giving some disgruntled, barely active Nulli CEO a bit of advice. It obviously wasn't planned or the mop up operation wouldn't be going so damn fast.

I could be wrong though.

It's pretty well planned when it goes very smoothly.

It's just history repeating itself.

It was Xenophilius Lovegood. A director in LNAW. Xeno used to be a member of the diplo team and High Command in S2N, he got removed from the high command and the diplo team for being inactive for about 6 months. He suddenly became active after this and pretty much emoed out and used his friends account to do as much damage as possible.

Whats more funny is the sight of Goons frantically backpedalling as it becomes apparant that they have pissed off Pandemic Legion.

Whats more funny is the sight of Goons frantically backpedalling as it becomes apparant that they have pissed off Pandemic Legion.

We are?

And how you Goons want to destroy EvE too?

That was your original plan.

And since this zebra doesn't change it's stripes......

S2NC and OPSEC were disbanded by the account of our former head diplo, whether it was actually him or one of the handful of people we knew had the login to the account is yet to be confirmed.

I love it when people shoot themselves in the foot and admit to account sharing.

Wait... account sharing?

From what I understand, Goons had nothing to do with it except maybe giving some disgruntled, barely active Nulli CEO a bit of advice. It obviously wasn't planned or the mop up operation wouldn't be going so damn fast.

I could be wrong though.

One thing it did was expose this blue horseshoe. Theres been a lot of talk about the blue donut over the last year and hurf blurf about how nobody wants to fight anybody because of 'sov'

Then goons go on the warpath and everyone with no dog in the race can just show up for fights.

Sov gets dropped in 200 renter systems and all of a sudden Shadoo is tweeting about how he has to resub to 'fix' the problem, the problem being that the rent must flow.

Over 24 hours an ungodly amount of hitpoints and sov is grinded whereas before everyone said it was too much hassle, until the rent is threatened, thus revealing the blue horseshoe and the heart of everything that is wrong in 0.0 today: renters- alliances that will conquer space, not to live or play or cultivate it, but to rent it out, then unsub

There is a solution.

Let's burn it all down. Time for highsec to declare war on nullsec. No, don't join their corps or rent their systems. Don't sign on to feudalism. Equip and promote noobs to just GO. Already we have low SP players taking out cyno ship in VFK with occasional T2 frig kills.

It's time for highsec to become what goons used to be before goons - and almost all of nullsec too - became "the establishment". It's time to free nullsec from this pissant renter/royaly/feudalism/corporatist grip. The industrial might of highsec and the sheer numbers will be enough. Just about everybody has an extra character slot.

You're gonna need Cat herding V to even start that, let alone succede at it.

What about Advanced Cat Herding (16x)?

Carebears are carebears for a reason. Have fun roaming around an empty VFK.

Wait... account sharing?

Nulli:

"hey lets **** with goons"
"yeah pretty good idea man"



oops somebody lost their stuff.