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Martin Gore
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:09:00 -
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I'll be on it tonight as well muwuhahaha kill the barges :)
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Natas Liah
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Posted - 2005.12.01 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Natas Liah on 01/12/2005 15:12:12 To follow up to my last post, get as many cloning stations as you can on your clone list near or at the locations of where the macroers mine, all the core systems around empire is a good idea, that way you can clone jump the low sec status char to the place of bombing.
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Natas Liah
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Posted - 2005.12.01 20:25:00 -
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RIP (pieces)
wert yu live dog biue dog cgfdsd lkij cf kjmn bv zawesx red ade
The ice belts of jita were not safe tonight
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Blind Watchmaker
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Posted - 2005.12.01 21:31:00 -
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Heheh great stuff. Just a shame it has to come to this.
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Dezzereth
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Posted - 2005.12.01 21:49:00 -
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I applaud you Natas (and supporters). A job well done.
For the whiners: If several attempts at contacting the miners doesn't work (including bumping them) then there is something fishy - and players who intervene in this case by getting rid of said macroers can only be thanked for their effort.
CCP can ban then at most, which we know can be circumvented. But if the community holds together against macroers, by making their life as miserable as possible, then a clear message can be sent to such people - also in a lot more effective way than CCP could.
So, keep up the good work. 
-- TOSGI Homepage -- |

Natas Liah
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Posted - 2005.12.01 21:51:00 -
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I'm on my way to the next group of macroers now, however, trigger happy interceptor flying players seem to enjoy killing me and im finding it impossible drifting to the next group in my pod.
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Natas Liah
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Posted - 2005.12.01 22:00:00 -
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Edited by: Natas Liah on 01/12/2005 21:59:43 Everyone can thank Morgena of the Seraphin Technologies corp for stopping me from getting to a large group of macrominers, he/she thinks its fun to camp me and prevent my pod from reaching the target system. Even after being told exactly what it is im trying to do.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.01 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Firestarterr and did you ever considered the fact you may have popped a few innocent noobs and genunine trial players in the process?
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Quote: 1 Billion isk currently sells on ebay for about $225 90 day GTC $38.95 Currently selling for 300mill
Therefore 1Bill isk costs you $129.50.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.01 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Floppyknickers Additionally, people were selling everything from faction loot to HAC's, one auction even boasted about selling a "macro guide" so you to can macro.
I hope to god CCP checks in on T2 BPO owners who do alot of 'gift giving'. Could you imagine if one of the T2 cap charger BPO owners was selling them for a couple dollars per cap charger on ebay? He'd be making hundreds per day. ------------------------------------
Quote: 1 Billion isk currently sells on ebay for about $225 90 day GTC $38.95 Currently selling for 300mill
Therefore 1Bill isk costs you $129.50.
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CptDelta
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Posted - 2005.12.01 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: CptDelta on 01/12/2005 22:14:39 2005.12.01 22:02:00 feel free to do what u want,.. plz send me the link then, i need something to laught about
-------------------- 2005.12.01 22:00:00 dont worry your going to find your name and corp on the forums posted as the person/corp who tried to help the macroers.
-------------------- 2005.12.01 21:58:00 just report them, CCP will hurt them more then u
-------------------- 2005.12.01 21:49:00 you stopped me from getting to my destinated ice field where im going to smartbomb a load of chinese ebaying macrominers, i hope you feel good about it.
Quote: I hope to god CCP checks in on T2 BPO owners who do alot of 'gift giving'. Could you imagine if one of the T2 cap charger BPO owners was selling them for a couple dollars per cap charger on ebay? He'd be making hundreds per day.
i agree CCP realy should care about anything whats mixing ISK and reallife Money...
isnt it possible that CCP just buy all the stuff on ebay and annul the trade because of dealing with stolen goods?
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Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2005.12.01 22:16:00 -
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It's a shame my alliance mates are unreasonable sometimes, some even wanted to shoot NBSI at their CONCORD-ganking protest in Rens. We're not all that clueless. 
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Natas Liah
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Posted - 2005.12.01 22:38:00 -
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Edited by: Natas Liah on 01/12/2005 22:43:41 Another 5 medium barges plus an indy have been destroyed. These are ones who have been spotted working with the original 15 characters on the first post.
They fled from the central hub systems around 20 jumps out to Gelhan where they thought they would be able to macromine in peace, they were wrong. The other group of 6 of them (there was 12 overall) is still here, in hiding, they warped out a while after seeing the other group explode.
RIP
Yrngliang HONG seg YYNY OOO TIANG Pingpin ****uka
Rest in pieces!
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Cmdr Sy
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Posted - 2005.12.01 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 01/12/2005 22:46:13
Splendid work. 
Got another killmail myself earlier, and petitioned my perma-broken aggro timer. 
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.01 22:48:00 -
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Great work.
As to the guy who asked if he could help, sure, donate a little money to them. I am. If it helps cover the costs of getting rid of a problem CCP ignore then im all for it.
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Darkenral
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Posted - 2005.12.01 23:13:00 -
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AWESOME AWESOME WORK ;))))))
Dark
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IDesert FoxI
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Posted - 2005.12.01 23:27:00 -
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LOL, well done. I applaud this community service, thank you.
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Macel
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Posted - 2005.12.02 00:18:00 -
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I don't mean this in any racially derogatory sort of way, but I find it interesting that most of those macrominer names are clearly chinese... I bet the chinese server, when its introduced (and hopefully ccp will then cut off chinese ip addresses from access to the euro servers), will cut down a lot on macro mining.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.12.02 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Natas Liah Edited by: Natas Liah on 01/12/2005 21:59:43 Everyone can thank Morgena of the Seraphin Technologies corp for stopping me from getting to a large group of macrominers, he/she thinks its fun to camp me and prevent my pod from reaching the target system. Even after being told exactly what it is im trying to do.
I'd like to thank her for stopping an out of control, self appointed, vigilante 
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Blitz Hacker
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Posted - 2005.12.02 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Macel I don't mean this in any racially derogatory sort of way, but I find it interesting that most of those macrominer names are clearly chinese... I bet the chinese server, when its introduced (and hopefully ccp will then cut off chinese ip addresses from access to the euro servers), will cut down a lot on macro mining.
Sadly I've found many of these happening in my experiences aswell :(
Most of the time I've talked in local saying 'heya' Reply ?? Said How you guyz doing? Reply ?? <spammed chat> immideatly get ?? about x8 (one per line I typed)
one actually replied speaking broken english from china.
Sad stereotype but the shoe fits <shrugs>
-Blitz-
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Pandemic Thinking
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Posted - 2005.12.02 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Cummilla
Originally by: Natas Liah Edited by: Natas Liah on 01/12/2005 21:59:43 Everyone can thank Morgena of the Seraphin Technologies corp for stopping me from getting to a large group of macrominers, he/she thinks its fun to camp me and prevent my pod from reaching the target system. Even after being told exactly what it is im trying to do.
I'd like to thank her for stopping an out of control, self appointed, vigilante 
You got a better idea?
A Good Deed is nothing more than a Bad Deed in need of a Drink |

DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2005.12.02 01:17:00 -
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its not as if macro miners work for their isk like the rest of the community who have to manually fly 1-2 account sin npc hunting or mining or partnering up with other players
so kill the **** out of them __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

Galk
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Posted - 2005.12.02 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Natas Liah Edited by: Natas Liah on 01/12/2005 21:59:43 Everyone can thank Morgena of the Seraphin Technologies corp for stopping me from getting to a large group of macrominers, he/she thinks its fun to camp me and prevent my pod from reaching the target system. Even after being told exactly what it is im trying to do.
Borderline harrasment if you ask me.
You that is, insighting a witch hunt against another player in the forum.
Also the gm's told the person that pulled the stunt with swaping ships to cease his activity, id bare that in mind.
Personaly you dont fool me, im not of a weak mind. ----------- When they asked me if i knew you, id smile and say you were a friend of mine.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2005.12.02 01:36:00 -
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Edited by: Lygos on 02/12/2005 01:44:06 I'm glad that you're using battleships as that is also a spur to the mineral economy.
What is the best battleship here? Geddon, or will a Tempest let you get off a few more rounds with a cheap tank?
Personally, I wouldn't bother with the pods. It's not likely that the clone is worth much and it saves your sec for another round.
********** Is there a penalty for using shield tranfer array on an npc engaging another player? **********
Targetting Sig Variance -- "Everything I love is combustible." |

Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.12.02 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Pandemic Thinking
Originally by: Cummilla
Originally by: Natas Liah Edited by: Natas Liah on 01/12/2005 21:59:43 Everyone can thank Morgena of the Seraphin Technologies corp for stopping me from getting to a large group of macrominers, he/she thinks its fun to camp me and prevent my pod from reaching the target system. Even after being told exactly what it is im trying to do.
I'd like to thank her for stopping an out of control, self appointed, vigilante 
You got a better idea?
I have no love affair with macro-ers. Although to be honest I think the vigilante in question has more than a fair amount of anti-ebay psychosis that they need to deal with so that they can weigh the macroer issue a little more objectively.
Theoretically, I have no problem with suicide attacks which nominally engage the execution of their act within normal boundaries of how any typical pvp engagement would go. IE, warpin, lock target, tackle target, activate weapons, repair damage, kill said target, etc.
But the key here is that this vigilante weazels in close to the target and doesn't have to lock anything..ever. They don't have to web, scramble, etc. They do not have to prioritze targets for locking and killing, nor to they have to have backup there to help them execute these macroers that they've found guilty and passed sentence upon.
All they do is exploit an AE weapon that quite honestly wasn't intended to be used in empire in that fashion. And "justifying" their exploit in that regard makes you no better than the macroers that you kill when you have to stoop to their level.
Basically we are all supposed to empathize with this vigilante because "it would be too hard" for him to actually organize suicide kestrel\caracal squads to perform these same tasks. Or it might actually happen that through the act of tackling a devious macroer a kessie or caracal might be lost to concordokken before it would be able to inflict damage\kills itself.
Smartbombs make the would-be vigilante TOO POWERFUL of a self appointed "sherrif." And until someone explains to me why those with inordinate\abnormally large and unhealthy amounts of playtime is any different of an "inappropriate RL influence" on Eve as ebay and RL cash is, then you will find me being VERY skeptical about how powerful vigilante weapons can be.
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Sreyaluskaya Moyl
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Posted - 2005.12.02 02:06:00 -
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Sweet irony, that the macroers forced down the price of minerals such that it has now become economically worthwhile to suicide them.
Now the tables have turned. It is possible to design game mechanics to minimise eBayer's influence, their presence is not so "inevitable" as is constantly argued.
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2005.12.02 02:22:00 -
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i wish i could contribute, but concor will not let me in, maybe i should make an alt ? (how long do i need to train it you guys think )
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Pandemic Thinking
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Posted - 2005.12.02 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cummilla
Originally by: Pandemic Thinking
Originally by: Cummilla
Originally by: Natas Liah Edited by: Natas Liah on 01/12/2005 21:59:43 Everyone can thank Morgena of the Seraphin Technologies corp for stopping me from getting to a large group of macrominers, he/she thinks its fun to camp me and prevent my pod from reaching the target system. Even after being told exactly what it is im trying to do.
I'd like to thank her for stopping an out of control, self appointed, vigilante 
You got a better idea?
I have no love affair with macro-ers. Although to be honest I think the vigilante in question has more than a fair amount of anti-ebay psychosis that they need to deal with so that they can weigh the macroer issue a little more objectively.
Theoretically, I have no problem with suicide attacks which nominally engage the execution of their act within normal boundaries of how any typical pvp engagement would go. IE, warpin, lock target, tackle target, activate weapons, repair damage, kill said target, etc.
But the key here is that this vigilante weazels in close to the target and doesn't have to lock anything..ever. They don't have to web, scramble, etc. They do not have to prioritze targets for locking and killing, nor to they have to have backup there to help them execute these macroers that they've found guilty and passed sentence upon.
All they do is exploit an AE weapon that quite honestly wasn't intended to be used in empire in that fashion. And "justifying" their exploit in that regard makes you no better than the macroers that you kill when you have to stoop to their level.
Basically we are all supposed to empathize with this vigilante because "it would be too hard" for him to actually organize suicide kestrel\caracal squads to perform these same tasks. Or it might actually happen that through the act of tackling a devious macroer a kessie or caracal might be lost to concordokken before it would be able to inflict damage\kills itself.
Smartbombs make the would-be vigilante TOO POWERFUL of a self appointed "sherrif." And until someone explains to me why those with inordinate\abnormally large and unhealthy amounts of playtime is any different of an "inappropriate RL influence" on Eve as ebay and RL cash is, then you will find me being VERY skeptical about how powerful vigilante weapons can be.
It would seem to me that your argument is that "they are being too effective". Seems to me that if they are willing to sacrife something as large as a BS and take the security hit, all of which is within game mechanics, then it is far dink'um. Other than that... your argument is pretty silly.
And you still have not come up with an alternate response to Macro-Mining...
A Good Deed is nothing more than a Bad Deed in need of a Drink |

Tarack
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Posted - 2005.12.02 05:14:00 -
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Petitions actually work sometimes. I was fortunate enough to happen upon 6 groups of 8 each macroing in Maurasi. I also had a front row seat to them going bye bye.
ALL HAIL GM Fate!!! Master of macro PWNAGE!!
Now to continue on my quest ....
WTS: 1 Ex-wife, slightly used. Fully equiped, includes, My house, my car, my dog and my new ex girlfriend................. |

Bongo Smith
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Posted - 2005.12.02 05:39:00 -
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These guys have been mining pretty much non-stop for more than a week in Lustrevik. Now they have started to keep some pauses, probably during "prime time", to avoid some of the attacks they've suffered. But they're still there, this picture was taken 10 minutes ago.
So if you happen to be traveling that-away...
Bongo
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Pandemic Thinking
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Posted - 2005.12.02 09:03:00 -
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The boys are hungry for a kill and they might take well to a trip to Lustrevik. Seriously, Reservoir Dogs has grown 300 percent in just one week after we decided to incorporate and go after the macro's. Now the new members want to blood themselves and I ran out of targets in our area. If I don't they might go after me (shiver)
A Good Deed is nothing more than a Bad Deed in need of a Drink |
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