If you think we've reached our ultimate goal, you're sadly mistaken.

They love your tears but don't worry; they make a few splashes but in the long term we just go back to mining as usual.

We are NOT podding every miner! Some of them get away...

And I'm not quite sure why you're so upset - I don't think you lost a single ship yet.

Though if I were you, I'd probably put some guns on your POS at planet 1, moon 3...

why?

also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks.

so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?

Because they can. If you get ganked, you are either bot or mentally disabled..

many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work

We've been blowing up miners left and right for almost 4 weeks now. We intend to keep our bounty program up indefinitely.

Since a few day, Goonswarm Federation has been really active in Hentogaira. they are podding every ice miner there is and they now they reached their ultimate goal: http://goonfleet.net/miners/. it seems to me they are now officially a maffia gank that rips people off for money.

250mill for 1 character just to mine ice. this is just perfect. many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work. we dont make 250mill just to be able to mine. if we wanna make 250mill we should chance to hardcore mode and mine ALOT before reaching the 250mill.

also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks.

the reaction time of concord is about 3-5 seconds, more then enough time to kill a miner in a brutix. yes, the ganker gets shot, but for a nullsec thug is 15-30mill nothing. they do 1 anomoly and get raped. also their concord standing is -5.0 so they can enter highsec. there are people that killed 10+ miners in highsec and still continue raping them since they can enter highsec at all time. why? why dont they get killed when trying to go to highsec?

i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy?

so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?

Since a few day, Goonswarm Federation has been really active in Hentogaira. they are podding every ice miner there is and they now they reached their ultimate goal: http://goonfleet.net/miners/. it seems to me they are now officially a maffia gank that rips people off for money.

250mill for 1 character just to mine ice. this is just perfect. many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work. we dont make 250mill just to be able to mine. if we wanna make 250mill we should chance to hardcore mode and mine ALOT before reaching the 250mill.

also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks.

the reaction time of concord is about 3-5 seconds, more then enough time to kill a miner in a brutix. yes, the ganker gets shot, but for a nullsec thug is 15-30mill nothing. they do 1 anomoly and get raped. also their concord standing is -5.0 so they can enter highsec. there are people that killed 10+ miners in highsec and still continue raping them since they can enter highsec at all time. why? why dont they get killed when trying to go to highsec?

i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy?

so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?

same goes for you apart the fact you are not bot, you are just mentally disabled

Truth to be told you are nothing more then toyes you play the game for someone else .. Good work

Corporation whores are everywhere 90 percent of working population are indeed corporation whores .. good for you

Selling your bloody wares / brain /

PS. Anyway that's just reaction to insult , not my opinion about goons members

Doesn't matter, it will lose publicity, interest, momentum and die.

Where's your statistics to prove this point? Right now. regular full-time ice miners are just plain scared to mine in Gallente ice fields because of the goons.

Where's your statistics to prove this point? Right now. regular full-time ice miners are just plain scared to mine in Gallente ice fields because of the goons.

Hulkaggedon and the lack of long term impact. It was a bit of drama, something to still talk about but has changed nothing.

thats just outrages.

Hulkaggedon and the lack of long term impact. It was a bit of drama, something to still talk about but has changed nothing.

You're saying that someone moved your cheese?

Sounds like it's time to do an unsub campaign with "goons are assholes" as the reason. CCP'll do something eventually.

Also, the anti-ice campaign is another goon protecting it's RMT program. Nothing more, nothing less.

Hulkaggedon and the lack of long term impact. It was a bit of drama, something to still talk about but has changed nothing.

Step 1 Get a Hulk
Step 2 Get an alt (2nd account/trial account) a t1 frig
Step 3 Have alt attack your hulk, thus summoning Concord to your belt
Step 4 ?
Step 5 profit

You realized that is only a temporary solution? There is ways of pulling concord off that belt.

do you also use bankofamerica.tk for your online banking?


there are goonfleet.net, goonauth.com and goonfleet.com

one is real, two are fake

idiots.

Not to mention that both of you suggesting something which is strictly against rules. Aka bannable offense.

Step 1 Get a Hulk
Step 2 Get an alt (2nd account/trial account) a t1 frig
Step 3 Have alt attack your hulk, thus summoning Concord to your belt
Step 4 ?
Step 5 profit

Not to mention that both of you suggesting something which is strictly against rules. Aka bannable offense.

its hysterically funny that not only is a mm member reduced to contemplating how to mine in highsec, but his contemplations are completely wrong

whoa good thing you're here to suggest petitioning us, something that not one of the 1500+ ships we've ganked have tried

Are you using exploits to kill those mackinaws ? If so it should be looked at. Either way it doesnt really matter.

Anyone can gank an mackinaw in brutix if not than tempest with 1400mm in the end preventing it will not work, well unless you got bunch of friend who will get their falcons suicided to jamm you and other friends in combat ships which will suicide gank you. Not gonna happen budget of those "poor" miners are too thin in comparison to Goons budget.


Hereby i apology for any post in this thread, i am drunk a bit and i am loser so i waste my time on forums instead of getting laid

Prove it.

Actually, I had a similar run in with someone who did this, I reported the event as I thought manipulating CONCORD like that was against the rules. I was told it was not, and it was a perfectly legitimate tactic in itself. Recycling alts over and over to do this however is not. You must keep that same alt and deal with the destroyed sec status, then it is perfectly legit.

Since a few day, Goonswarm Federation has been really active in Hentogaira. they are podding every ice miner there is and they now they reached their ultimate goal: http://goonfleet.net/miners/. it seems to me they are now officially a maffia gank that rips people off for money.

250mill for 1 character just to mine ice. this is just perfect. many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work. we dont make 250mill just to be able to mine. if we wanna make 250mill we should chance to hardcore mode and mine ALOT before reaching the 250mill.

also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks.

the reaction time of concord is about 3-5 seconds, more then enough time to kill a miner in a brutix. yes, the ganker gets shot, but for a nullsec thug is 15-30mill nothing. they do 1 anomoly and get raped. also their concord standing is -5.0 so they can enter highsec. there are people that killed 10+ miners in highsec and still continue raping them since they can enter highsec at all time. why? why dont they get killed when trying to go to highsec?

i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy?

so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?

Yes but no one is doing that in this case. They're fine dealing with their -10 security status. Some other people are not and they just buy straight up new accounts by plexing it up.

the only people who actually recycle alts are the miners: a ganker doesn't want to biomass their ganking alt

Since a few day, Goonswarm Federation has been really active in Hentogaira. they are podding every ice miner there is and they now they reached their ultimate goal: http://goonfleet.net/miners/. it seems to me they are now officially a maffia gank that rips people off for money.

250mill for 1 character just to mine ice. this is just perfect. many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work. we dont make 250mill just to be able to mine. if we wanna make 250mill we should chance to hardcore mode and mine ALOT before reaching the 250mill.

also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks.

the reaction time of concord is about 3-5 seconds, more then enough time to kill a miner in a brutix. yes, the ganker gets shot, but for a nullsec thug is 15-30mill nothing. they do 1 anomoly and get raped. also their concord standing is -5.0 so they can enter highsec. there are people that killed 10+ miners in highsec and still continue raping them since they can enter highsec at all time. why? why dont they get killed when trying to go to highsec?

i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy?

so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?

Doesn't matter, it will lose publicity, interest, momentum and die.

These are the inevitable outcomes:

* CCP will step in and change the way Concord works to better respond to ganking (permanent ice belt patrols with improved AI)
* CCP will intervene in the market and render the ganking largely ineffective
* CCP will change the way ice is distributed, spreading it out much further and making it impossible to fully camp (likely)
* CCP will change POS fuel requirements as part of their announced POS logistics change (also likely)
* CCP will realize the ice mining concept is terribly flawed and redesign it into soemthing not broken (not as likely)
* CCP will drastically increase tank of industrials (simplest, most boring solution)
* Goons will grow bored of the effort or need to reassign resources, will announce "success" and end the blockade

One of those things iwll happen in the coming months. Personally, I'd like ice to be removed and replaced by something that isn't so tedious as to REQUIRE bots (or stupid people) to be the only ones mining it.

the fundamental flaw of hulkageddon, and its predecessor the great goonfleet jihad, is precisely that it spread itself too thin to achieve lasting change

one cannot camp every asteroid belt in highsec

one can, however, camp every gallente ice field

There are other ice fields and as soon as this loses momentum people will go back to the Gallente ones. Your change is temporary.

i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy?

also i really don't understand why industrial ships should be weak..... they are the most picked on type of ships.... if it was real life ship designers would be designing industrials that were extremely hard to kill...... tough tanks with plenty of defensive weapons not the current weak tank that exumers have and non existant tanks mining barges have with a few paltry drones for defense.

Here are the locations of blue ice fields that makes it easy for us to do this operation.

I know one you are missing and my alt is loving it. Thanks for improving the prices for me.

IMO it's lame that the most powerful corp in the game decided to dedicate themselves primarily to griefing newbies. Kind of pathetic IMO.

IMO it's lame that the most powerful corp in the game decided to dedicate themselves primarily to griefing newbies. Kind of pathetic IMO.

(Side note: If you don't want to get ganked, tank up and ice mine in a battle ship)

First of all, there never was a safe heaven.
That said, second, you deserve that this happens to you, because.
Third ... it's EvE. Playing "casual", "safe" and "leave me alone" doesn't work.

Advise ?

Connect with your friends, if you have any.
Connect to groups. Then connect to corps.
Then connect these corps to an alliance.

You either defend yourself or die in a big ball of fire.

The choice is yours.

Welcome to EvE online. (which you probably never really played anyway)



PS: No other choices given. You have no right to demand safety.
Just because you never really played this game,
doesn't mean others can't play it WITH YOU THE WAY THEY WANT TO !

Your "life" in EvE lies within your responsibility.
Man up or die.

Good luck. :)


Edit:
"Battle On" is a rather ironic name for a miner...

This is the inevitable outcome:
* CCP will do nothing.

One of the reasons why we like doing it. Because it's pathetic, sad, and just straight up funny.

I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.

Why are you certain about that? Do you still have one of the CCP employees still in your pocket? Seem to remember the Goons were good at that.

Correct me if I'm wrong there :)

Why are you certain about that? Do you still have one of the CCP employees still in your pocket? Seem to remember the Goons were good at that.

Correct me if I'm wrong there :)

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I would like to know how you're fitting ice harvesters in a battleship.

Hadn't had to use it yet, so amend my advice to - "get ECM drones and buffer up"

IMO it's lame that the most powerful corp in the game decided to dedicate themselves primarily to griefing newbies. Kind of pathetic IMO.

There was a guy in one of the ice belt systems yesterday using four accounts to mine ice. He had a hulk fit with one single ice harvester and everything else was tank and had ecm drones out. He had an orca to provide bonuses and store his ice, a scimitar providing shield reps and a dominix fit with armor reps. His hulk died to two goons flying a brutix and a tempest.

The best part is even if we hadn't ganked him he was still sitting in an ice belt using four accounts to run a single ice harvester in an unbonused ship. Fantastic.

Nice one Brick Squad, btw

You giving yourself too much credit for something inherently out of your reach.

Just saying.

You giving yourself too much credit for something inherently out of your reach.

Just saying.

this doesn't even make sense what are you just saying

He's arguing in another thread that Eve is just like real life so don't spend too much time trying to make sense of his posts

He's arguing in another thread that Eve is just like real life so don't spend too much time trying to make sense of his posts

Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland..

Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland..

Protip to ice miners.....
Hire PL to attack goons homeland..

PL tried that over the summer. It didn't work out too well for them.

miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine

Shadoo was on vacation then

Since a few day, Goonswarm Federation has been really active in Hentogaira. they are podding every ice miner there is and they now they reached their ultimate goal: http://goonfleet.net/miners/. it seems to me they are now officially a maffia gank that rips people off for money.

250mill for 1 character just to mine ice. this is just perfect. many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work. we dont make 250mill just to be able to mine. if we wanna make 250mill we should chance to hardcore mode and mine ALOT before reaching the 250mill.

also, its just too easy to gank a miner. i just saw a mackinaw get shot by a Brutix. this mean that a 15-30mill worth ship just ganked a 150mill worth ship, thats just outrages. i think ccp should do something about this since its just crazy that you can so easily pop a miner. concord pops up just too late to stop the ganker from killing the miner, which just sucks.

the reaction time of concord is about 3-5 seconds, more then enough time to kill a miner in a brutix. yes, the ganker gets shot, but for a nullsec thug is 15-30mill nothing. they do 1 anomoly and get raped. also their concord standing is -5.0 so they can enter highsec. there are people that killed 10+ miners in highsec and still continue raping them since they can enter highsec at all time. why? why dont they get killed when trying to go to highsec?

i think this whole "raping the miners" thing is getting all out of control, highsec used to be a safe heaven for casual gamers where we could just do whatever we like without worrying about nullsec/lowsec thugs that ruin people's eve experience. why cant these people go back to nullsec to change things there instead of raping us? dont they have better things to do then kill the eve economy?

so whats your opinion about this? what advice do you have for all those miners out there?

He was not. Besides we set up like 10 **** cages preventing the titans from being useful on the field and holding 800 goons and allies constantly for a week. The operation was a HUGE failure for PL/IRC/WN/etc.

So.... You are saying that PL cant hurt you ?

So.... You are saying that PL cant hurt you ?

If all of PL got behind the effort I'm sure they could but if it's just bmerc and the "mad about goons" contingent...well August has come and gone

Worst case scenario GÇô CCP buffs Concord response times once again and effectively displays to the community that one of the core fundamental principles of the game is just for show.

Best case scenario GÇô Even tho Eve loose some ice-miner subscribers, CCP stay the course and consolidates their and our notion of Eve as a "harsh and dark universe".

If their priciple of "no space is safe" only applies when times are rosy and when nobody puts it to the test GÇô like the goons currently are doing GÇô then it stops being a principle and becomes an empty salespitch.

So you think the Goons are just testing CCP's resolve.

Find that hard to believe.

They're all real.

I was there.

By the way, everyone's been complaining for years that mining was too boring----now there's some excitement to it.

The thing that kinda surprises me is that GSF has escalated the activity. To fly under the nerf-dar they should have kept it to a few days a month. ... Or one belt a day... Or whatever would not escalate this to game breaking (see Privateers) issue.

Explain how what we are doing in Gallente ice belts is breaking the game.

Explain how what we are doing in Gallente ice belts is breaking the game.

Explain how what we are doing in Gallente ice belts is breaking the game.

We are NOT podding every miner! Some of them get away... And I'm not quite sure why you're so upset - I don't think you've lost a single ship yet. Though if I were you, I'd probably put some guns on





You never know when you get war-decced...

The Holy Bible asks: What does it gain a man, to win the world if he loses his soul.

And then you come along, and lose your soul for some pixels in a game. I bet you will be the dumbest guy in hell one day.

They're just mad they can't be safe 100% of the time without any forethought.

It is really sad that so many people are desperate for attention and to feel significant.

You're talking to the wrong people the Goons don't have a soul.

You look at the oceans and see how much life is lost there each day and you will realise how insignificant the human race really is.

I will start this out by saying I'm not totally against Goonswarm ganking ice miner's but I seriously think they've taken it too far. I mean having to pay to ice mine? I mean lets say they started patrolling all/most mission hubs and ganked anyone that tried to mission, and you have to pay an in-game corporation to mission?!

Goonswarm has taken this too far, CCP put mining in for a reason, it was created by them. When in-game entity tries to control a section of a game making in nearly unavaliable for outside entitys CCP really needs to step in and take control of this, I mean all the noob miners that are just starting out in their Mack's and then get blown up the next day probably aren't too thrilled. Sure there are corps that Ice Mine in null but that's hardly accessable for noob players who can barely fly a Mack and probably won't have a chance of tanking the rats in there.

When some people are paying RL money do to something in a game and then that get's cut off it's (almost, almost) stealing of a minor sort. CCP really needs to start stepping in soon if this escalates further

Just my two cents

P.S. I don't mine, and I don't even mission that much
P.S.S. maybe I'm over-exaggerating the situation but if it ever gets to the point where you can't ice mine anywhere in high-sec then it's too far and time for CCP to step in

Hey now, we're not all ginger.

The Holy Bible asks: What does it gain a man, to win the world if he loses his soul.

And then you come along, and lose your soul for some pixels in a game. I bet you will be the dumbest guy in hell one day.

CCP put mining in for a reason, it was created by them.

I will start this out by saying I'm not totally against Goonswarm ganking ice miner's but I seriously think they've taken it too far. I mean having to pay to ice mine? I mean lets say they started patrolling all/most mission hubs and ganked anyone that tried to mission, and you have to pay an in-game corporation to mission?!

Goonswarm has taken this too far, CCP put mining in for a reason, it was created by them. When in-game entity tries to control a section of a game making in nearly unavaliable for outside entitys CCP really needs to step in and take control of this, I mean all the noob miners that are just starting out in their Mack's and then get blown up the next day probably aren't too thrilled. Sure there are corps that Ice Mine in null but that's hardly accessable for noob players who can barely fly a Mack and probably won't have a chance of tanking the rats in there.

When some people are paying RL money do to something in a game and then that get's cut off it's (almost, almost) stealing of a minor sort. CCP really needs to start stepping in soon if this escalates further

Just my two cents

P.S. I don't mine, and I don't even mission that much
P.S.S. maybe I'm over-exaggerating the situation but if it ever gets to the point where you can't ice mine anywhere in high-sec then it's too far and time for CCP to step in

I didn't realize we had shut down all mining in the game. Wow we're awesome.

Look on the bright side while they poncing around with the ice fields it leaves them more vulnerable in 0.0, All it needs is some large alliances to get togehter to sort them out. Then they'll have to abandon the ice fields to defend their territory.

Might actually turn out to be a good thing in the long run. Or is that just wishful thinking?

Someday you guys probably will

You really are obtuse. There are very limited locations that makes this operation very feasible in the long run. Weaselior was correct that Hulkageddon was spread too thin. Especially the empire pubbie tears is what keeps us going.

Here are the locations of blue ice fields that makes it easy for us to do this operation.
Ala 0.5 Spaen Sinq Liason 2x
Alillere 0.8 Nexus Sinq laison
Ardallabier 0.7 Ysiette Everyshore
Aydoteaux 0.7 Elalan Everyshore
Eletta 0.9 Obray Verge Vendor
Gicodel 0.9 Odilis Everyshore
Ignebaener 0.5 Peccanouette Essence
Niballe 0.6 Solitude
Pettinck 0.8 Sinq Laison
Sortet 0.8 Ancbeu Verge Vendor
Stegette 0.5 Stion Sinq Liason
Tolle 0.7 Elalan Everyshore
Vaurent 0.6 Ysiette Everyshore
Wysalan 0.8 Thoulde Essence

All you need is at least 14 dumb pilots with aspergers to keep this up constantly.

I, too, am gay.

Ah, my daily thread full of miners crying about the vileness of my alliance. It goes with my coffee! What would I do without it?

All I need for breakfast is bacon, coffee, and a thread full of wailing miners tearing their hair out and begging for a no-PvP MMO.

Still you have a good portrait it looks smug just like your comments.

Why is it that everybody who is mad at Mittens is eventually reduced to complaining about his avatar? Learn how to lose an argument with some class people...

Herp, my name is Karadion and I don't realize that there is no Ice Field in Wysalan but I still included it in my list derp

We've been blowing up miners left and right for almost 4 weeks now. We intend to keep our bounty program up indefinitely.

We are NOT podding every miner! Some of them get away... And I'm not quite sure why you're so upset - I don't think you've lost a single ship yet. Though if I were you, I'd probably put some guns on

You never know when you get war-decced...

pubbie

250mill for 1 character just to mine ice. this is just perfect. many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work. we dont make 250mill just to be able to mine. if we wanna make 250mill we should chance to hardcore mode and mine ALOT before reaching the 250mill.

Still you have a good portrait it looks smug just like your comments.

Because "pubbie" means so much to . . . anyone?

I look even more smug in real life.

I can imagine someone around the age of 10 might say that and actually think it's funny.

I can imagine someone around the age of 10 might say that and actually think it's funny.

We don't find the word pubbie to be that amusing. The reaction we get, however, when we call pubbies pubbies? That's freaking hilarious.

Just for me if you please..

What does the "pubbie" stands for .. i lack any association with such word so i dont really have a clue where to put it.

I got some ideas but i could be mislead by my own imagination.

And what exactly is the reaction you get?

Just for me if you please..

What does the "pubbie" stands for .. i lack any association with such word so i dont really have a clue where to put it.

I got some ideas but i could be mislead by my own imagination.

Look up a few posts to your response.

It just means a member of the general public...eg a person who is not a member of somethingawful.com. It's not like it's some horrible insult but people still get really worked up about it.

And your point is?

There was a time when there was honor in the sandbox

It is really sad that so many people are desperate for attention and to feel significant.

Can someone explain to me why this is posing such a problem?

If it's just in gallente space, and only ice, why do those affected not move to another region or change occupation (for a while) if they are not able to protect themselves?

I mean, it's EVE, you always need a plan b.

I thank goonswarm for this bounty tears I am about to harvest

I was in a Gallente system in highsec with an icebelt, saw 11 ice miners and no goons. Checked back every couple of days and they were still there.

Goons up your game.

many miners like myself are just casual gamers that afk-mine when doing some work.

.... Goonswarm Federation has been really active .... what advice do you have for all those miners out there?

We are NOT podding every miner! Some of them get away... And I'm not quite sure why you're so upset - I don't think you've lost a single ship yet. Though if I were you, I'd probably put some guns on





You never know when you get war-decced...

Doesn't matter, it will lose publicity, interest, momentum and die.

Ugh, this arguement.... again.

READ MY WORDS TAKE THE WISDOM THEY IMPART AND SHOVE THAT WISDOM UP YOUR NOSE!!!
- Fit a passive shield tank on your mining vessel, if you properly fit it, it will last long enough for CONCORD to arrive.
- Fly with some kind of logistical support, an orca with one Capitol sized shield RR will be plentiful and work fine.
- Don't sit right at the warp in point and mine from there, thats just begging for a gankin.
- Find a grav site to mine, gankers usually don't look for those cause it takes too damn long to find them
- Set some known gankers to red (GOONS as example) and watch local, when you see a red enter system, start running.
- Watch your D-scan if your in a grav site, it will let you know that some one is trying to find you.
- High sec is the most secure relative to other areas of space. This means it is the most secure space in the game but **** will still hit the fan there as well.
- Mining ships are coveted for their ability to **** roids, they are not well known for battle. They are by design weak, so again TANK IT.
- Don't play this game AFK.
- Use your goddamn brain.