Please do this so I can fit one civilian miner to any combat ship, sit in a belt with it mining a rock waiting for the miner to mine that rock and flag him to me for combat O the tears this will produce as miners cry out about being destroyed.

I agree that mining needs more human interaction. The CSM has lobbied about ideas with regard to the subject but we have a hard time overcoming the idea of not making it some sort of quick-time event. But yeah, Mining needs to be looked at.

The CSM has lobbed about ideas

Don't change mining, please. I will cry tears of hatred the day that mining changes in more than a minor way. I find it quite relaxing. Leave it alone.

EDIT: Yes, I realize many people find it extremely boring, and it's full of bots, but I don't want this to turn into Mission Running: Asteroid Mode. Mining ISN'T PvE. I don't want to have to be at the screen every single waking moment, at risk of losing my 200 million ISK ship, just because the way it is now is supposedly boring.

I pity the fool.

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Don't change mining, please. I will cry tears of hatred the day that mining changes in more than a minor way. I find it quite relaxing. Leave it alone.

EDIT: Yes, I realize many people find it extremely boring, and it's full of bots, but I don't want this to turn into Mission Running: Asteroid Mode. Mining ISN'T PvE. I don't want to have to be at the screen every single waking moment, at risk of losing my 200 million ISK ship, just because the way it is now is supposedly boring.

what about introducing a new tier of mining barges, barges that can carry in addition to their strip miners a medium array of weapons that give them about cruiser class firepower, coupled with a decent tank? Being more or less helpless against any possible ganker is what keeps many people from mining, especially in low sec.

Okay, here's a crazy idea: Enormous, semi-hollow asteroids full of tunnels and rooms. You could navigate your ships in (this would actually make smaller mining ships, like the racial mining frigates or procurer, more useful; perhaps even add very small tunnels with very dense, vauable ore that only friagtes can fit into) and mine out veins in the walls and things. There could be things like immense geodes with huge crystals of minerals lining the walls, or hidden bases with turrets and rare items.

When flying inside, normal ships would scrape against walls and take damage without skill, and also alert everyone else inside. However, mining vessels would have special systems that will push them away from walls with reverse-tractor beams or something. This would discourage ganking and give miners opportunities to escape when they hear or detect other vessels coming into the asteroid. You could even be invisible to sensors when inside an asteroid.

This would also discourage AFK mining and botting an whatnot, since the ores in veins and things would be too small to mine for long, so your can'thide inside a roid, set your miners on something, and then go wander off to make a sandwich or something.


Oh, and make it dark inside, so you have to light everything up with spotlights and those decorative lights all over the mining barges and the Cormorant and things.


Edit: Oh, and have rocks fly around in belts and cause damage that can only be deflected by the aforementioned reverse-gravity thing that mining barges get, or maybe lots of point-defense cannon. So gankers and the like will have trouble , but not be utterly doomed.

The question is, how the hell will CONCORD get into these places?

As the OP I want to tell you I don't want to change mining for you.

Leave a semi-afk option in the game, but allow me to be MORE effective if I am sitting there watching.

Not everyone hates mining. Get over it.

So you want a game that you can play by not playing - staying AFK?

Sure, makes a lot of sense.

Of course CCP won't change anything, since they make money out of boring people.

Um have you seen skill training?

I get rewarded for being OFFLINE (can't lose implants if you're logged off!)

CCP don't give a damn about miners...
you see that they don't listen for years...
look at drone loot...
and now they buffed metal scrapes (volume only of 0.01 m3)
so they are more and more and more nerfing mining...
CCP is playing with miners nerves or wants to kill mining in eve...

It is hard to argue when the animation and mining sound were broken for awhile, hell they may still be borked.

The path its going now with constant nerfing and ignoring of all problems...
i must ask ccp something:

@ CCP
you want to remove mining from EVE???

I ask because i see that you are nerfing it for years and just giving other professions more and more minerals and making them easier to get to it...
About drone loot... are you laughing in miners face when doing all this to us... this "changes" are kick under the belt... like "we did something"...
And then this metal scraps buff... that's so low...

If you want to kill mining and remove it from game... just say it...
But in this conditions i demand my SP invested in mining back...

In case you missed it CCP Soundwave HATES gun mining (aka drones), so they are changing soon.