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Apollo Gabriel Mercatoris Etherium Cartel 86	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:28:00 - [1] - Quote I am curious is we'll see any improvements in the mining system? Is CCP even thinking about how to improve/change mining? Adding some human element seems a good way to help with bots in addition to making a popular aspect of the game more fun. Best, AG Please take a moment to review your text before submitting.
Karadion GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 148	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:29:00 - [2] - Quote Improvement to mining? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... let me breathe.. Ya right. clicks button, waits 10 minutes, clicks again. I don't know why pubbies would want to mine other than downloading bots to do the job for them.
White Tree XxBroski North Reloaded Federation NinjaGuldDotxX. Elite Space Guild 530	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:29:00 - [3] - Quote I agree that mining needs more human interaction. The CSM has lobbed about ideas with regard to the subject but we have a hard time overcoming the idea of not making it some sort of quick-time event. But yeah, Mining needs to be looked at.
Takamori Maruyama Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 18	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:30:00 - [4] - Quote How about a giant asteroid with a Pirate base inside, that requires miners to open the way for the military force to engage em? Or a giant asteroid monster that is immune to normal weapons and his only weakness is miners :3? The Codex Astartes guides us....someone poke and whisper something Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?!
Steamgrind Meatroller Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 9	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:32:00 - [5] - Quote Perhaps a dedicated manual mining joystick that can be purchased with aurum thingies!
SpaceSquirrels Scordite Excavating Xenaphobe 9	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:32:00 - [6] - Quote No you wouldnt want all the botters to rage quit either.
Severian Carnifex 23	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:36:00 - [7] - Quote Yea... please listen players... make some changes to mining... there was many proposals from players... and no respond... and whats with COMETS idea??? its mentioned long time ago and nothing... that would make some interesting mining system... edit: asteroids to comets.
Apollo Gabriel Mercatoris Etherium Cartel 86	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:36:00 - [8] - Quote There have been MANY suggestions in over the years as to HOW to improve mining, there just seems to be no impetus to do so. We all know there are bot miners and bot raters, all enabled due to abysmal game design. If eve launched today with the joke that is Ratting and or mining, it would die. I really believe that if Eve made mining FUN! and hell even missions FUN! They'd pick up that player base quickly. If missions gave skill points as a reward up until 10 m sp (for Missions 2.0, not the pathetic ones we have now.) new players could really get up and going even faster. Please take a moment to review your text before submitting.
Severian Carnifex 23	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:37:00 - [9] - Quote and botting problem is the other story of the same problem... just look at old forum... how many botting threads???
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront 83	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:40:00 - [10] - Quote Chances are that miners will get a better rate on the eyes they claw out doing their thing when drones are moved from mineral drops to raw ISK .. You'll still be crying tears of boredom from hollowed out eye-sockets but your income may increase up to 20-30%!!!
Jada Maroo Mysterium Astrometrics BRABODEN 336	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:40:00 - [11] - Quote For winter 2012 all mining ships will have shield and armor hitpoints removed and be forced to hull tank and there will be a 10% chance per cycle of spontaneous self destruction.
Takamori Maruyama Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 18	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:41:00 - [12] - Quote Now on serious note: - Human controlled lasers (attach a mini game to mining feature , use for example...connecting the dots in a time attack) -Military Ops that require miners to clear the way -Add a more aggressive market over the ore commodity The Codex Astartes guides us....someone poke and whisper something Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?!
Elise DarkStar DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium 96	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:43:00 - [13] - Quote I was thinking today that a belt should be like a semi-randomized "puzzle" that you have to take apart. It would be near impossible to do a perfect "extraction", but a blind botting program engaging it randomly would get an absolutely awful yield. Obviously that's like the first step out of a mile walk, but it' seems like the right way to go. I think most people's first thought goes to some kind of optimized timing like shooting your gunsword in FF8, which I think would be ******* painful and would do nothing to impede botting.
Takamori Maruyama Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 18	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:48:00 - [14] - Quote Or a mix in plenty of mini games to avoid boredom. Puzzles, reaction games, etc etc The Codex Astartes guides us....someone poke and whisper something Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?!
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 900	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:50:00 - [15] - Quote If they could solve the latency issues, they should just blatantly steal Galaxy of Fire's mining minigame. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1170	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:51:00 - [16] - Quote ccp has heard the cries of the highsec miner for help against suicide ganking, and has introduced the tornado you can send flowers and thanks to their hq, i know I will be
Apollo Gabriel Mercatoris Etherium Cartel 87	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:54:00 - [17] - Quote Tippia wrote: If they could solve the latency issues, they should just blatantly steal Galaxy of Fire's mining minigame. Can you find a youtube vid for me? I don't even know what I'm looking for and feeling lazy. Please take a moment to review your text before submitting.
Igualmentedos Shadow Veil Industrial Shadow Directive 43	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:55:00 - [18] - Quote Karadion wrote: Improvement to mining? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... let me breathe.. Ya right. clicks button, waits 10 minutes, clicks again. I don't know why pubbies would want to mine other than downloading bots to do the job for them. You're trying too hard. :3
Igualmentedos Shadow Veil Industrial Shadow Directive 43	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:56:00 - [19] - Quote Apollo Gabriel wrote: Tippia wrote: If they could solve the latency issues, they should just blatantly steal Galaxy of Fire's mining minigame. Can you find a youtube vid for me? I don't even know what I'm looking for and feeling lazy. I'm not gonna lie, I would hate to see mining go that way, but I don't mine at all so I guess my opinion wouldn't matter.
Lharanai Empyrean Guard Seventh Vanguard 20	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:57:00 - [20] - Quote Mining mods are lasers powerful lasers Mining ships were build around these mining lasers Make mining lasers the ultimate short range weapons imagine a mining laser able to cut trough a BS like a hot knife through butter Yeah the idea is stupid....but hell it would be funny...darn I shall not post on drugs Touch my ** and I will your with an rusty and into your , and then I will your until you ******************
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 104	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:57:00 - [21] - Quote White Tree wrote: I agree that mining needs more human interaction. The CSM has lobbed about ideas with regard to the subject but we have a hard time overcoming the idea of not making it some sort of quick-time event. But yeah, Mining needs to be looked at. it should be a bigger clickfest than PI The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Apollo Gabriel Mercatoris Etherium Cartel 87	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:57:00 - [22] - Quote Weaselior wrote: ccp has heard the cries of the highsec miner for help against suicide ganking, and has introduced the tornado you can send flowers and thanks to their hq, i know I will be I am not saying anything about suicide ganking, I just want to have some fun before you blow me. Please take a moment to review your text before submitting.
Noriko Mai 269	Posted - 2011.10.24 17:57:00 - [23] - Quote Let them solve captches once a minute. No more bots and mining is 1684668433546times more interactive, challenging and fun. (fun for all the others that laugh at miners)
Takamori Maruyama Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 18	Posted - 2011.10.24 18:01:00 - [24] - Quote White Tree wrote: I agree that mining needs more human interaction. The CSM has lobbed about ideas with regard to the subject but we have a hard time overcoming the idea of not making it some sort of quick-time event. But yeah, Mining needs to be looked at. Well don't wanna sound rude, how about showing actually the CSM intention regarding the mining boredom situation? Start a brainstorm thread, get opinions, get devs, programmers to check if that idea is possible to attach to the game etc etc. So far I just see hey lets try to do something with mining, a few suggestions are given then after 20 posts it dies. Sometimes a Blue post saying that they are going to look at it "soon" .But no serious engagement over the subject. Seriously I would like to have a programmer to answer the questions in the thread. The Codex Astartes guides us....someone poke and whisper something Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?!
Lharanai Empyrean Guard Seventh Vanguard 20	Posted - 2011.10.24 18:07:00 - [25] - Quote and now imagine Hulks tearing down POS you want to bring Miners to null, here is the way to do it :) Touch my ** and I will your with an rusty and into your , and then I will your until you ******************
TuonelanOrja Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2011.10.24 18:14:00 - [26] - Quote Apollo Gabriel wrote: I am curious is we'll see any improvements in the mining system? Is CCP even thinking about how to improve/change mining? Adding some human element seems a good way to help with bots in addition to making a popular aspect of the game more fun. Best, AG Oh there will improvements. The new BC with better Large blasters on it.. what you think next will happen now
Apollo Gabriel Mercatoris Etherium Cartel 87	Posted - 2011.10.24 18:16:00 - [27] - Quote TuonelanOrja wrote: Apollo Gabriel wrote: I am curious is we'll see any improvements in the mining system? Is CCP even thinking about how to improve/change mining? Adding some human element seems a good way to help with bots in addition to making a popular aspect of the game more fun. Best, AG Oh there will improvements. The new BC with better Large blasters on it.. A goon already beat you to this comment, how's it feel being sloppy seconds to a goon? Please take a moment to review your text before submitting.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 909	Posted - 2011.10.24 18:17:00 - [28] - Quote Apollo Gabriel wrote: Tippia wrote: If they could solve the latency issues, they should just blatantly steal Galaxy of Fire's mining minigame. Can you find a youtube vid for me? I don't even know what I'm looking for and feeling lazy. This. Basically, it's a game of GÇ£keep the reticle within the circleGÇ¥ where the circle keeps shrinking as you suck up more ore, and the reticle keeps bouncing around, trying to get away from the centre of the circle. Better mining drills gives you more control (by slowing the slippage down and/or by increasing your ability to push back). More valuable ores can be had by first stripping away the outer layers and then drill at the core, when the circle is at its absolute smallest. If you're too slow/hamfisted to control the drill, it slips outside the drill zone and starts overheating. Overheat too much, and the whole asteroid explodes, making you lose all the ore from it. At any time, you can simply stop and collect however much you've extracted so far (so if you're about to explode, it's better to just take what little you have, rather than try to fight for control and lose it all). Once you've stopped drilling GÇö either by overheating, by interrupting the process, or by finishing up with the core drilling, the asteroid is no longer available for further attempts until it respawns. Of course, a lot of these details are matched to how GoF handles respawns and availability in general (it's an SP game so you have no real competition, and no-one gets upset if you just blow every last rock to pieces), so all of it isn't exactly directly transferrable to EVEGÇª but some of the basic ideas might work. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Takamori Maruyama Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 18	Posted - 2011.10.24 18:19:00 - [29] - Quote Tippia wrote: Apollo Gabriel wrote: Tippia wrote: If they could solve the latency issues, they should just blatantly steal Galaxy of Fire's mining minigame. Can you find a youtube vid for me? I don't even know what I'm looking for and feeling lazy. This. Basically, it's a game of GÇ£keep the reticle within the circleGÇ¥ where the circle keeps shrinking as you suck up more ore, and the reticle keeps bouncing around, trying to get away from the centre of the circle. Better mining drills gives you more control (by slowing the slippage down and/or by increasing your ability to push back). More valuable ores can be had by first stripping away the outer layers and then drill at the core, when the circle is at its absolute smallest. Hell that looks fun, I could do it for a entire day The Codex Astartes guides us....someone poke and whisper something Oh wrong scenario...WHERE IS MY GIANT AQUARIUM?!
Apollo Gabriel Mercatoris Etherium Cartel 87	Posted - 2011.10.24 18:20:00 - [30] - Quote Tippia wrote: Apollo Gabriel wrote: Tippia wrote: If they could solve the latency issues, they should just blatantly steal Galaxy of Fire's mining minigame. Can you find a youtube vid for me? I don't even know what I'm looking for and feeling lazy. This. Basically, it's a game of GÇ£keep the reticle within the circleGÇ¥ where the circle keeps shrinking as you suck up more ore, and the reticle keeps bouncing around, trying to get away from the centre of the circle. Better mining drills gives you more control (by slowing the slippage down and/or by increasing your ability to push back). More valuable ores can be had by first stripping away the outer layers and then drill at the core, when the circle is at its absolute smallest. Interesting idea, not sure I'd love it, but not a bad direction. What I do like about what you said is "optimize" mining. That being roids are mixed ore types and taking out Veldsparr before Omber gives a higher total yield or similar. Please take a moment to review your text before submitting.

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