| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 .. 159 :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 43 post(s) |

oldbutfeelingyoung
418
|
Posted - 2012.01.26 17:10:00 -
[2941] - Quote
Nova Fox wrote:WIS sand bucket is there may be a year before the stuff they're trowing in it is dry enough to make a castle with.
SiF features are however cooking rather quilcy and will get ther castle up much faster.
don,t mind the big FIS sandcastle ,its how i attach that little WIS sandcastle-tower on it I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |

oldbutfeelingyoung
418
|
Posted - 2012.01.26 17:16:00 -
[2942] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:I think people who expect deliverables for WIS that meet their expectations happening in the next year have sand in their heads.
If you really think 4 devs and a single QA guy can build and deliver on the stuff you are all expecting, I hate to be the one who pees in your cornflakes, but this is CCP folks. Over-promise and underdeliver is their company mantra. They only scramble when their asses are on the line.
we could ragequit about that little sandcasstle ,but we don,t want another panic change from CCP ,do we? I think for now that 5 people are just enough to keep us and the rest happy. Just one thing needed ,a introduction blog for that Avatar team and what they expect
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |

Lyrka Bloodberry
Spybeaver
72
|
Posted - 2012.01.26 17:41:00 -
[2943] - Quote
The WiS-timeline how it was and how it will be:
- CCP: First announcement: "You will be able to walk in stations soon!" - Pro-WiSers: "Yaaaay!" - Anti-WiSers: "Gonna be crap!"
2 Years later: - CCP: "We are working hard on it! You will be able to walk in stations soon! (But we will introduce it bit by bit...)" - Pro-WiSers: "Long time now, but... well... Yaaaay!" - Anti-WiSers: "Will never finish and gonna be crap!"
2 Years later: - CCP: "Here is the first part of it: You can walk in stations now! (But only in your captains quarters... more to come)" - Pro-WiSers: "Not much yet, but when it gets improved, it's gonna be... Yaaaay!" - Anti-WiSers: "looool! Dat all? You promised sooo much and didn't hold your promise! And what wit dis Monocle? Abort WiS-Project! I want moar flying spaceships, and I want it now! NOW!" *whine* *whine* *whine* *whine* *whine* *whine* *whine* *whine* - Anti-WiSers: "Mkay, will you abort WiS now?" - CCP: "Okay, to hell with WiS, we're doing only spaceships again! BUT: Billy Bob and Cletus here, our guestprogrammers from Nebraska, will further improve WiS!" - CSM: Man, we rock!
Future - 2 Years later: - CCP: "Behold! Our guestprogrammers have implemented... tadaaaaa... Minesweeper on your CQ-Screen! (Oh, and they got fired and we will not further improve WiS, cause the progress in WiS was kinda slow (wonder why...))" - Pro-WiSers: "Ummm... yay?" - Anti-WiSers: "See? Toldcha it's gonna be crap and never finish!"
(Actually I think Minesweeper on the CQ-Screen would be awesome, but you get the idea...) Spybeaver |

oldbutfeelingyoung
418
|
Posted - 2012.01.26 18:02:00 -
[2944] - Quote
Lyrka Bloodberry wrote:The WiS-timeline how it was and how it will be:
- CCP: First announcement: "You will be able to walk in stations soon!" - Pro-WiSers: "Yaaaay!" - Anti-WiSers: "Gonna be crap!"
2 Years later: - CCP: "We are working hard on it! You will be able to walk in stations soon! (But we will introduce it bit by bit...)" - Pro-WiSers: "Long time now, but... well... Yaaaay!" - Anti-WiSers: "Will never finish and gonna be crap!"
2 Years later: - CCP: "Here is the first part of it: You can walk in stations now! (But only in your captains quarters... more to come)" - Pro-WiSers: "Not much yet, but when it gets improved, it's gonna be... Yaaaay!" - Anti-WiSers: "looool! Dat all? You promised sooo much and didn't hold your promise! And what wit dis Monocle? Abort WiS-Project! I want moar flying spaceships, and I want it now! NOW!" *whine* *whine* *whine* *whine* *whine* *whine* *whine* *whine* - Anti-WiSers: "Mkay, will you abort WiS now?" - CCP: "Okay, to hell with WiS, we're doing only spaceships again! BUT: Billy Bob and Cletus here, our guestprogrammers from Nebraska, will further improve WiS!" - CSM: Man, we rock!
Future - 2 Years later: - CCP: "Behold! Our guestprogrammers have implemented... tadaaaaa... Minesweeper on your CQ-Screen! (Oh, and they got fired and we will not further improve WiS, cause the progress in WiS was kinda slow (wonder why...))" - Pro-WiSers: "Ummm... yay?" - Anti-WiSers: "See? Toldcha it's gonna be crap and never finish!"
(Actually I think Minesweeper on the CQ-Screen would be awesome, but you get the idea...)
maybe your are right , but can CCP loose face like that?i don,t think so
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |

Beaches
10
|
Posted - 2012.01.26 19:03:00 -
[2945] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
maybe your are right , but can CCP loose face like that?i don,t think so
CCP has no pride or dignity.
The game is good right now for what it is, it could be 100x better if it had more depth and immersion. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3405
|
Posted - 2012.01.26 19:49:00 -
[2946] - Quote
I will say this, they should never abandon FIS for WIS they should both have major updates if they ever add in WIS features at the same time.
|

Flamespar
Woof Club
300
|
Posted - 2012.01.27 01:12:00 -
[2947] - Quote
It would be awesome if the next expansion for EVE had updates to both FiS and WiS. Given the fact that they have more developers working on EVE than they have in years, I think this may actually be possible. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |

Kukiri
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
8
|
Posted - 2012.01.27 01:23:00 -
[2948] - Quote
If you click on my info you will see this:
Quote:Member for 3 years, 8 months, 15 days That's how long I've been waiting for WIS. Or Ambulation as it was called when first announced.
To be honest, if all we have after nearly four years is hanging out in a room, I don't have much faith in seeing the door open any time soon. |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
|
Posted - 2012.01.27 01:28:00 -
[2949] - Quote
How about we make sure there are some CSM7 members that have ambulation as a priority!
Voice of Reason Party
Issler |

Flamespar
Woof Club
300
|
Posted - 2012.01.27 01:45:00 -
[2950] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:How about we make sure there are some CSM7 members that have ambulation as a priority! Voice of Reason PartyIssler
I endorse this message and/or product. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |

Sirius Cassiopeiae
Perkone Caldari State
94
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:58:00 -
[2951] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:How about we make sure there are some CSM7 members that have ambulation as a priority! Voice of Reason PartyIssler
I am afraid that's impossible. Large alliances will make their member to vote for only ppl they like and that's it. CSM like idea is broken. |

2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
75
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:00:00 -
[2952] - Quote
*goes into voting booth, votes for nader, comes out, scream OBAMA!! social acceptance, yeah! |

Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
380
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:01:00 -
[2953] - Quote
I'd rather have full industry revamp then more walking in stations. Their art teams could make better looking POS's Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3405
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:14:00 -
[2954] - Quote
You really dont put interior designers on making avatars and clothes or thosse artist making space ships really.
|

Lady Starfire
State War Academy Caldari State
22
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 22:21:00 -
[2955] - Quote
CCP WHY AM I NOT AS PRETTY WHEN I HAVE TO WALK AROUND IN STATION AS I AM IN MY AVATAR! |

Hikaru Kuroda
Shimai of New Eden
39
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 23:42:00 -
[2956] - Quote
Lady Starfire wrote:CCP WHY AM I NOT AS PRETTY WHEN I HAVE TO WALK AROUND IN STATION AS I AM IN MY AVATAR!
Because when you were creating your avatar, you clicked on "random"  |

Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
112
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 23:47:00 -
[2957] - Quote
Lady Starfire wrote:CCP WHY AM I NOT AS PRETTY WHEN I HAVE TO WALK AROUND IN STATION AS I AM IN MY AVATAR! Holy sh*t! That is one ugly avatar. That must have taken a lot of effort, and a strong stomach Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. |

Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
|
Posted - 2012.01.29 00:24:00 -
[2958] - Quote
This is what happens when you don't meet the 120hz monitor requirement for nvidia 3D vision. |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
|
Posted - 2012.01.29 03:27:00 -
[2959] - Quote
Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:How about we make sure there are some CSM7 members that have ambulation as a priority! Voice of Reason PartyIssler I am afraid that's impossible. Large alliances will make their member to vote for only ppl they like and that's it. CSM like idea is broken.
If folks wake up and get involved all the members of the large power blocks combined are a fraction of active accounts.
Players of Eve are starting to see the CSM can change Eve and sometimes in ways they might like want.
Issler Dainze Voice of Reason Party CSM 7 Candidate |

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
263
|
Posted - 2012.01.29 05:38:00 -
[2960] - Quote
Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:How about we make sure there are some CSM7 members that have ambulation as a priority! Voice of Reason PartyIssler I am afraid that's impossible. Large alliances will make their member to vote for only ppl they like and that's it. CSM like idea is broken. Working as intended.
Players who are active in game and have a large following get elected. There's no in- or out of game mechanism to force anyone to vote; it's all voluntary. Nothing wrong with that. |

Sirius Cassiopeiae
Perkone Caldari State
94
|
Posted - 2012.01.29 11:46:00 -
[2961] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:How about we make sure there are some CSM7 members that have ambulation as a priority! Voice of Reason PartyIssler I am afraid that's impossible. Large alliances will make their member to vote for only ppl they like and that's it. CSM like idea is broken. If folks wake up and get involved all the members of the large power blocks combined are a fraction of active accounts. Players of Eve are starting to see the CSM can change Eve and sometimes in ways they might like want. Issler Dainze Voice of Reason Party CSM 7 Candidate
Yea, if all EVE players vote then that is fraction. But when their corp/alliance leaders tell them to vote for that guy "or else"... or "if that guy don't have more then ### votes then" that that ppl must vote for that guy and other free ppl that freely play the game wont vote because they play the game and don't play forums and all candidates are only known to forum ppl.
i think that voting needs to be more integrated in the game. make ppl feel that elected ppl decide about their virtual faith. and, make it that ppl must vote or click i don't want to vote button. Then ppl will see that that matters, that their vote matters.
I hope that you understand... written in the hurry. |

Sirius Cassiopeiae
Perkone Caldari State
94
|
Posted - 2012.01.29 11:48:00 -
[2962] - Quote
Razin wrote:Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:How about we make sure there are some CSM7 members that have ambulation as a priority! Voice of Reason PartyIssler I am afraid that's impossible. Large alliances will make their member to vote for only ppl they like and that's it. CSM like idea is broken. Working as intended. Players who are active in game and have a large following get elected. There's no in- or out of game mechanism to force anyone to vote; it's all voluntary. Nothing wrong with that.
The problem is that CSM voting, now, is out of game thing. And its not voluntary when your alliance/corp leader tells you that you must vote for that guy "or else". And everything is wrong with that. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
|
Posted - 2012.01.29 12:29:00 -
[2963] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:How about we make sure there are some CSM7 members that have ambulation as a priority! Voice of Reason PartyIssler I am afraid that's impossible. Large alliances will make their member to vote for only ppl they like and that's it. CSM like idea is broken. If folks wake up and get involved all the members of the large power blocks combined are a fraction of active accounts. Players of Eve are starting to see the CSM can change Eve and sometimes in ways they might like want. Issler Dainze Voice of Reason Party CSM 7 Candidate If WiS is a priority issue, then I'll support the Voice Of Reason Party with my vote.
To those who supported WiS in this thread, let your voice be heard, If you don't, who do you think will advocate FiS and WiS development? Definitely won't be the current CSM. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
511
|
Posted - 2012.01.29 14:15:00 -
[2964] - Quote
If you really want WiS my advice is to find another game prefereably a single player game that has a WiS theme to it to enjoy. It will take a long time to get WiS up. If that is all ya want I wouldnt waste time. Like X3 has caps to play with and soon sins will have titans and newer caps to play with while lvling cap ship skills. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
|
Posted - 2012.01.29 20:05:00 -
[2965] - Quote
Well, I guess you missed the various CCP Dev posts in this thread starting around page 125 with this one:
CCP Guard wrote:To add a little to what I wrote yesterday. I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy. The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn-Št dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry) Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least. If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me 
Then followed a few pages later by another CCP Dev:
CCP Bayesian wrote:Time for some new information on our plans.
Incarna is not dead, it is however on a slight hiatus with much less development effort being put towards it. This is partly due to the refocus on to spaceship gameplay and the War expansion. Mainly it's because we want to take the time to do the gameplay in Incarna right and learn from the mistakes we made in creating the initial release.
The effort is being led by a new, small team inventively named Team Avatar. We're tasked with maintenance and improvement of existing systems, developing new features for the Captains Quarters, NeX Store and Character Creator and prototyping multiplayer gameplay for Incarna. Our top priority after dealing with defects that are live on TQ is to come up with a solid vision and find the gameplay for future work on a multiplayer Incarna release.
We are interested in your ideas and will trawl this epic thread to see what you guys have been discussing. Any more suggestions would be good to put in the Features & Ideas Discussion forum just so that they are more visible to us.
We'll be coming out with more concrete information on what this all entails soonish but fire away with questions.
That was followed with about 1/2 dozen pages of question and answer time with a sneak preview of Team Avatar:
CCP Bayesian wrote: We have in no particular order:
Designers: CCP Flying Scotsman CCP t0rfifrans
Software Engineers: CCP Karkur CCP Bayesian
QA: CCP RedDawn
Then even more interaction by CCP plus a post from another CCP Dev:
CCP RedDawn wrote:I have to worry about the sheer amount of corpse chat in this thread.
You are a bunch of dark but lovely people.
On a more serious note though, we will be releasing a dev blog soon to formally introduce Team Avatar and our plans, goals, hopes, fears and our honest optimism towards Incarna v2.
For now though, please keep this amazing thread going with your ideas.
Cheers!
After that there was even more interaction between CCP's Team Avatar and Pro-WiS players.
Anyway, I am truly amazed how some people are so quick to post without researching all of the facts. Sure it's gonna take a little while for WiS gameplay content to roll out, but I'm sure everybody would agree that 'Commitment To Excellence' is much more preferred than rushed unfinished content.
One thing is for sure, I'll be damned to let this thread end on a negative note by someone trying to rain on this parade. Obviously you quickly jumped on the wrong Band Wagon without actually hearing the song they were singing.
Like it or not, WiS is here and more content will be developed and expanded on in the future making WiS an integral part of Eve Online.
\o/ Go Team Avatar Go \o/ |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3405
|
Posted - 2012.01.29 20:16:00 -
[2966] - Quote
Thanks for the hard work Crimson.
|

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
263
|
Posted - 2012.01.29 21:23:00 -
[2967] - Quote
Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Razin wrote:Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:How about we make sure there are some CSM7 members that have ambulation as a priority! Voice of Reason PartyIssler I am afraid that's impossible. Large alliances will make their member to vote for only ppl they like and that's it. CSM like idea is broken. Working as intended. Players who are active in game and have a large following get elected. There's no in- or out of game mechanism to force anyone to vote; it's all voluntary. Nothing wrong with that. The problem is that CSM voting, now, is out of game thing. And its not voluntary when your alliance/corp leader tells you that you must vote for that guy "or else". And everything is wrong with that. Please enlighten us of the tools the alliance leadership uses to track the voting of the alliance membership (and alts!).
Additionally, please explain how the CSM voting is an "out of game thing" when you have to be a paying subscriber to vote. |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
|
Posted - 2012.01.29 23:21:00 -
[2968] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Sirius Cassiopeiae wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:How about we make sure there are some CSM7 members that have ambulation as a priority! Voice of Reason PartyIssler I am afraid that's impossible. Large alliances will make their member to vote for only ppl they like and that's it. CSM like idea is broken. If folks wake up and get involved all the members of the large power blocks combined are a fraction of active accounts. Players of Eve are starting to see the CSM can change Eve and sometimes in ways they might like want. Issler Dainze Voice of Reason Party CSM 7 Candidate If WiS is a priority issue, then I'll support the Voice Of Reason Party with my vote. To those who supported WiS in this thread, let your voice be heard, If you don't, who do you think will advocate FiS and WiS development? Definitely won't be the current CSM.
I definitely want VOR to keep CCP's feet to the fire when ti comes to ambulation!
Issler |

Flamespar
Woof Club
300
|
Posted - 2012.01.30 02:15:00 -
[2969] - Quote
It's great that WiS will be the subject of a roundtable discussion on Fanfest. The only problem is that unfortunately that means players that aren't going to be at Fanfest will miss out on the opporunity to talk about it with the Devs.
Is it possible to organise a 'virtual' roundtable whereby players are able to discuss the future of Incarna? Perhaps you could incorporate a crowd sourcing exercise as part of it to help gauge interest in different proposed features. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |

Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
621
|
Posted - 2012.01.30 17:33:00 -
[2970] - Quote
Doc Fury wrote:I think people who expect deliverables for WIS that meet their expectations happening in the next year have sand in their heads.
If you really think 4 devs and a single QA guy can build and deliver on the stuff you are all expecting, I hate to be the one who pees in your cornflakes, but this is CCP folks. Over-promise and underdeliver is their company mantra. They only scramble when their asses are on the line.
Richard Garriott programmed Akalabeth by himself in his garage every other weekend.
Colossal Cave Adventure, the first text-adventure, was programmed by one man, refined by another, and set the path of the gaming industry for the next forty years.
Ken and Roberta Williams programmed Mystery House, the very first graphical adventure game, by themselves, sitting in their living room.
Will Wright programmed the original SimCity in his spare time, inspired by a product that he was already working on.
The World Wide Web was the product of one man with a vision.
Teams of '4 devs and a single QA guy' were setting trends in the computer industry more than thirty years ago.
You don't need three hundred people to make a good product. Monoclegate: because calling it 'Doorgate' would just be silly. |
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 .. 159 :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |