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Rexella	Posted - 2005.12.04 16:09:00 - [1] hi, for some that might be a stupid question but i've heard that with the next expansion the expanded cargo hold II comes ingame, so my question is what research do they need? i don't find any cargo hold or even nanofiber (hull upgrades) at any research agent
Andrue	Posted - 2005.12.04 16:35:00 - [2] Originally by: Rexella hi, for some that might be a stupid question but i've heard that with the next expansion the expanded cargo hold II comes ingame, so my question is what research do they need? i don't find any cargo hold or even nanofiber (hull upgrades) at any research agent Lol, you won't find the BPO for Expanded I either. At least last I heard it hadn't been released. I'd say the chances of Expanded II BPO being released are less than zero. -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.12.04 16:47:00 - [3] Originally by: Andrue Originally by: Rexella hi, for some that might be a stupid question but i've heard that with the next expansion the expanded cargo hold II comes ingame, so my question is what research do they need? i don't find any cargo hold or even nanofiber (hull upgrades) at any research agent Lol, you won't find the BPO for Expanded I either. At least last I heard it hadn't been released. I'd say the chances of Expanded II BPO being released are less than zero. Huh? There are tons of Expanded I BPOs, released through research agents. You can find the BPCs on escrow also. Expanded IIs won't be in for a while I guess. - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
Xachiriah	Posted - 2005.12.04 16:58:00 - [4] Its arleady been said that expanded II's will come with RMR. Check Sisi.
Berneh	Posted - 2005.12.04 17:03:00 - [5] Originally by: Xachiriah Its arleady been said that expanded II's will come with RMR. Check Sisi. Whats the expansion % on those ? -------------------------------------------------- Zacheria Malfor > i want the ar$e bandit one, it pwns Wakibaki > ways just a pervert Wakibaki > but he lubes me so its ok
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.12.04 17:20:00 - [6] Originally by: Xachiriah Its arleady been said that expanded II's will come with RMR. Check Sisi. and... sisi always has stuff seeded a long time before TQ does. you get a dev quote to back that up?
Dreown	Posted - 2005.12.04 17:23:00 - [7] Simple question: Are those T2 expenders comming with RMR, yes or no?
AirWalker	Posted - 2005.12.04 17:24:00 - [8] The people who don't know talk and the people who do know won't
Xachiriah	Posted - 2005.12.04 17:36:00 - [9] Edited by: Xachiriah on 04/12/2005 17:36:07 Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Xachiriah Its arleady been said that expanded II's will come with RMR. Check Sisi. and... sisi always has stuff seeded a long time before TQ does. you get a dev quote to back that up? Omgrawr devchat The stats on sisi say cargo II's give 29.5% and a -15% speed and -20% structure bonus. They sure as hell dont look like placeholders to me.
Chade Malloy	Posted - 2005.12.04 17:45:00 - [10] one thing is forsure, who ever gets the BPO for the cargo II¦s, will be a multi-billionaire a few days later I so hate the lottery system, i have no words for it. DEVs break things by looking at them.

BloodSpoon	Posted - 2005.12.04 17:47:00 - [11] Originally by: Chade Malloy one thing is forsure, who ever gets the BPO for the cargo II¦s, will be a multi-billionaire a few days later I so hate the lottery system, i have no words for it. i love the lottery system its the most fair way imo "ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus"
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.12.04 18:02:00 - [12] Originally by: BloodSpoon i love the lottery system its the most fair way imo I agree, theres nothing wrong with a system that drops 1 person +5 bpos ------------------ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.12.04 18:36:00 - [13] some lucky bugger is about to get very rich..... -20% sttructure though so what about if u fit 5 of them 0 HP on the hull ? could be interesting if u have no shield and armour lol mmmm CCP could take the bull by the horns and not realise any BPOs but go instead by higher amounts of 5 run BPCs through research agents on a RP type lottery system. Would be a very very rare offer but a lot more players would get 5 runs to use or produce as they saw fit would produce price competition - otherwise i can see a 40-50m price tag at least on these things
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.12.04 18:44:00 - [14] Originally by: Xachiriah Edited by: Xachiriah on 04/12/2005 17:36:07 Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Xachiriah Its arleady been said that expanded II's will come with RMR. Check Sisi. and... sisi always has stuff seeded a long time before TQ does. you get a dev quote to back that up? Omgrawr devchat The stats on sisi say cargo II's give 29.5% and a -15% speed and -20% structure bonus. They sure as hell dont look like placeholders to me. Those same stats have been on TQ for nearly a year. - Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
BloodSpoon	Posted - 2005.12.04 19:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: BloodSpoon i love the lottery system its the most fair way imo I agree, theres nothing wrong with a system that drops 1 person +5 bpos i'm not complaining and i've only EVER gotten 1 from it...i'd like more but meh "ooooohh theres nothing wrong with killer robots from venus"
Trak Cranker	Posted - 2005.12.04 21:49:00 - [16] Originally by: sonofollo some lucky bugger is about to get very rich..... -20% sttructure though so what about if u fit 5 of them 0 HP on the hull ? could be interesting if u have no shield and armour lol Afaik mods dont add - they multiply - so result = structure*(0,8^5). Someone correct me if I am wrong. Please resize your signature so that it is within the forum rule size limits - Jacques
Haniblecter Teg	Posted - 2005.12.04 22:30:00 - [17] The best item you can loot from regular NPC's is expanded cargo holds, either local or parital hull. If they released a T2 bpo of expanded, NPC'ing will suddenely become ALOT less attractive. In fact, the lack of many T2 releases can be traced to the fact that the Named item market must stay healthy for ALOT of players to make money. Friends Forever
Harry Voyager	Posted - 2005.12.04 23:49:00 - [18] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Xachiriah Edited by: Xachiriah on 04/12/2005 17:36:07 Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Xachiriah Its arleady been said that expanded II's will come with RMR. Check Sisi. and... sisi always has stuff seeded a long time before TQ does. you get a dev quote to back that up? Omgrawr devchat The stats on sisi say cargo II's give 29.5% and a -15% speed and -20% structure bonus. They sure as hell dont look like placeholders to me. Those same stats have been on TQ for nearly a year. No they haven't. Tranq stats for the Expanded Cargo Hold II list a -15m/s to speed, not a -15% With the current -m/s it would be possible to make certain cargo ships have a negative top speed. With the % based modifier, however that can't be done anymore. Harry Voyager ____________________ I'm not an idiot; I just play one on the forums.
James Lyrus	Posted - 2005.12.04 23:55:00 - [19] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: BloodSpoon i love the lottery system its the most fair way imo I agree, theres nothing wrong with a system that drops 1 person +5 bpos As long as the 1 person is me, then I'd agree. -- Complaining about the PvPers and Pirates in EVE is like complaining about the mines in Minesweeper.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.12.05 00:28:00 - [20] T2 expanders could have a 100% speed reduction, it wouldn't matter because of lame instas. ------------------------------------ Quote: 1 Billion isk currently sells on ebay for about $225 90 day GTC $38.95 Currently selling for 300mill Therefore 1Bill isk costs you $129.50.

Erised Eman	Posted - 2005.12.05 00:46:00 - [21] So... This means I can cancel my market buy order for cargo expander IIs? I know this sounds pretty dumb but I thought because I saw them on the market browser they were in game?
Verite Rendition	Posted - 2005.12.05 02:48:00 - [22] Originally by: Erised Eman So... This means I can cancel my market buy order for cargo expander IIs? I know this sounds pretty dumb but I thought because I saw them on the market browser they were in game? Yes. They're not actually in this version of EVE, they're only in the DB. I've heard a rumor someone accidentally got a few once, but it doesn't matter if it's valid or not, they'd never use/sell them ---- TribalWar Inc. Director of R&D
Lorth	Posted - 2005.12.05 03:06:00 - [23] The people that get that BPO are going to have a liecence to print isk. It will either sell for 10 billion within a couple hours, or some one will keep it and be able to make some 20 mill an hour by only keeping a factory running. I think that this BPO will be the most sought after one in the game. And certainly among the most profitable.
Rexella	Posted - 2005.12.05 10:57:00 - [24] you missunderstood.. i want to know which research the bpo needs.. not what the bpo is doing g there is absolutely no info at the agent-info that tells any bp from the hull upgrades tree.. so did there come new agents or what?
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.12.05 11:45:00 - [25] ok so if youre facing a negative speed from fitting - um how is it going to work 0 m / sec ? or 1 m /sec if thats the case how are u going to move youre ship without instas. CCP really need to have a look at this.Is it possible instead to go 5 m / sec reduction with a 2-5% reduction in hull HP ?
Feta Solamnia	Posted - 2005.12.05 11:57:00 - [26] /me does the T2 dance and prays to Oveur that she is given a cargo expander 2 bpo. I promiss, I will steal all the isk possible with it, the way TomB would like me to. I will make people whine all over the forums and have children cry over their never-bought lollipops because daddy flies a hauler Originally by: Oveur I have access to all market data. Believe me, we have not reached anything close to deflation yet.
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.12.05 12:04:00 - [27] well those of us with the relevanat agetns are in with a chance fingers crossed
Hanilein	Posted - 2005.12.05 12:38:00 - [28] Originally by: Rexella hi, for some that might be a stupid question but i've heard that with the next expansion the expanded cargo hold II comes ingame, so my question is what research do they need? i don't find any cargo hold or even nanofiber (hull upgrades) at any research agent take a look.. http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/hullarmor/hullupgrades/1319.asp ...i'm crossing my fingers too...
Rexella	Posted - 2005.12.05 15:02:00 - [29] ahhhh i want to know WHICH RESEARCH AGENT will give out the bpo and not what i have to learn or what they do the link to the database is fine but it goes lightyears beside the question like ANY answer in here
AGENT KW	Posted - 2005.12.05 15:26:00 - [30] Research fields for BPO's are not known until the item is added to the lottery. My guess would be Mechanical Engineering; which drops hull mods. But may be multiple fields



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