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Shifu
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Posted - 2005.12.07 22:54:00 -
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It is normal and usual that people have to choose
the type of relationship to theyr neighbours,
eighter its good or bad.
but you prefered not just to see us as your enemies, justifying this action by some false reason,
you didnt even tell us about your decision and started shooting our pilots, who were still considering you friendly.
well, it seems that lies and sneak attacks are becomming normal thing in the south, but this rule doesnt apply to us.
we are now informing you officially that our standings towards ascn have been adjusted accordingly.
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A'tarius
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:12:00 -
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FIRST!!
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Artemis Drake
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: Artemis Drake on 07/12/2005 23:29:44
2nd?
Great move?
Xenobytes 4tw 
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Eshtir
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Posted - 2005.12.07 23:58:00 -
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Stop the "first", "second" and so on spam posts. Either add something usefull to the discussion or dont.
-Eshtir
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CYVOK
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Posted - 2005.12.08 01:11:00 -
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I informed several of your memebrs & directors of standings changes almost 2 weeks ago.
It has also been posted at www.celestial-horizon.net/standings.htm which can also be viewed in my Bio.
We changed our standings to SE for the following reasons.
1) Your memebrs began flying with G gangs
2) Your memebrs were shooting at ASCN & our allies in the south.
3) Your memebrs "declared war" on KOS, an ASCN friendly Alliance that never did anything to SE but refuse to be your mining slaves in Omist.
It would be real easy for SE to become friendly to ASCN again.
1) Stop shooting SA, ASCN, & KOS.
2) Start shooting G/IROn and their 10,000 slave corps.
Another options is.
1) Stay out of ASCN territory, you have no reason to be their anyway.
I have no hard feelings to SE ATM and this issue could be easily fixed if we can agree on terms.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.12.08 02:16:00 -
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fwooooosh
doubt theyre gonna stop shooting SA ;p
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.12.08 04:24:00 -
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i think everyone knows why BoB never goes south
all you in the south shoot up eachother anyway.
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.12.08 07:42:00 -
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 Originally by: CYVOK
3) Your memebrs "declared war" on KOS, an ASCN friendly Alliance that never did anything to SE but refuse to be your mining slaves in Omist.
KOS was formed when we were half through the Mass refinery, few corps jumped SA and came up with an alliance to claim sovereignty. Actually i thought we were doing you a favor since your favourites BE used to be a frequent guest to KOS stations when they controlled them.
I'm going to let somebody from G to comment on G+SE combined gangs. nt anyway
Also it doesn't look like Shifu is asking how to become friendly with ascn, he simply states that you were set to '-', i just hope it means a lot of focused shooting 
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Dawn Princess
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Posted - 2005.12.08 10:21:00 -
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No but what Shifu was trying to do was make it look as though ASCN had undertaken some blue on blue shooting or had otherwise "backstabbed" SE (and just because I used the B word is not an inviation for a hundred and one OMG ASCN WTFBACKSTABBER NBSI!!!11 posts  )
SE started flying with G gangs and shooting ASCN pilots (presumably there is some sort of anti-SA deal/understanding going on I dont know and I dont care)
By please dont try to paint us as the bad guys here (especially after you were so grateful to us for staying out of the SA/SE conflcit not so long ago)
kthxbye
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Raven Twilight
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Posted - 2005.12.08 11:30:00 -
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Don't trust anything SE say they invaded Omist while KOS were weak and forming the alliance when the guys split from SA. The alliance what is KOS was in Omist long before SE when SA/MASS was in charge.
And SE wonder why KOS try to regain the area from these invaders. I say beware ASCN. If they can invade Omist who will they go for next? ASCN territory I guess....
They have more interests supporting G than they have ASCN don't trust the backstabbers....
Help KOS out for gods sake and they'll help you out ASCN.
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Leit
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Posted - 2005.12.08 11:36:00 -
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Does anyone else read these posts and just want to LOL?
Wow, get with the program ffs.
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DeWieKat
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Posted - 2005.12.08 14:11:00 -
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guys, this isnt a discussion tread, we¦ve informed ascn officially about standings adjustment. thats it.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.12.08 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Twilight
Don't trust anything SE say they invaded Omist while KOS were weak and forming the alliance when the guys split from SA. The alliance what is KOS was in Omist long before SE when SA/MASS was in charge.
And SE wonder why KOS try to regain the area from these invaders. I say beware ASCN. If they can invade Omist who will they go for next? ASCN territory I guess....
They have more interests supporting G than they have ASCN don't trust the backstabbers....
Help KOS out for gods sake and they'll help you out ASCN.
aww man, that was a funny post 
Take 25% bull****s, 60% loosy politics, 15% drugs shake it and you've got a post like that
I mean dude... SE are like what... 200 members ? And you're saying they're planning to invade ASCN who would pwn them in 10 minutes hands up since ASCN wouldn't have any problem claiming Omist ? 
Just... Get clues !
(no SE, whatever I say, it doesn't mean we're friends ;p)
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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DeWieKat
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Posted - 2005.12.08 15:58:00 -
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clean up your glasses, elenia, and read carefully, shifu didnt say that we would "invade" ascn territory, why do that anyway??? he just told that standings have been set to negative. point.
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irtehnub
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Posted - 2005.12.08 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK
It would be real easy for SE to become friendly to ASCN again.
1) Stop shooting SA,
LMAO
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Fried
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Posted - 2005.12.08 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Fried on 08/12/2005 17:31:19
Originally by: Creamster
KOS was formed when we were half through the Mass refinery, few corps jumped SA and came up with an alliance to claim sovereignty. Actually i thought we were doing you a favor since your favourites BE used to be a frequent guest to KOS stations when they controlled them.
Creamster, as someone I found to be a fun apponent and always respectful I would like to ask you an honest question, why SE is attacking KOS in the first place because going from the XB press release http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=237366 in which Shifu clearly states
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to Stain inhabitants: our corporation hasnÆt initiated the war, we just fought back after being fired upon. We hold no grudge against you. We ask everybody who wants peace to leave a warzone which is Stain. If you leave Stain-Alliance we promise to aggress you no further.
KOS left SA as requested and setup home in omist (a region that SE didnt have before the SE/SA war) and now find that you continue to attack them after you saying you wouldnt, they moved out of contested space and actually took over Mass space, if as Shifu say's in the press release that the whole SE/SA confict was down to Mass where he also stated
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WeÆre committed to fight Mass and supporters to the end, donÆt be fooled by their propagande, weÆll show no weakness or mercy. Consider yourself warned. Stain must be Mass-free.=-
Surely KOS did you a favour by taking Mass teritory and now they find you shooting them, looks like SE going back on thier word to me.
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.12.08 17:57:00 -
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go Shifu! :) bring'em'hell!
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.12.08 18:13:00 -
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I got a few words to say about this, even though I'm not down there anymore, I was when this whole situation started to evolve.
First of CYVOK get a real dude, u must be out of your mind or really arrogant to stay all that stuff. SE and G/IRON worked together to kill SA and MASS, u stated your neutrality around the time the conflict started, and now you'r telling SE not to shoot on SA/MASS and their lil sister alliance KOS. The SE vs SA/KOS war is none of your bussiness, if it is, it clearly shows that you're not a man whose word one can trust.
When we (ADGA) took one of the stations in Omist, it was rather suprising to see who could all dock, MASS + their alt corps, UDIE (which shows that ASCN doesnt even know whats going on in their backyard), and various other corps. We didnt wanted to be FA v2.0 so we cut the taxes (which MASS had put) in half and told the locals and KOS to contact one of our diplomats if they have a problem with this, to see what happens. In the duration we stayed in SE after that, no talks took place and KOS started to put up POS' without any warning and tried to take the stations over.
Afaik, SE has no interest in ASCN (hell, SE even did u a favor by cutting off UDIE from Omist), your conlfict with G/IRON was none of our interest, and I know Shifu wouldnt make such a statement if it wasnt you attacking first. He would inform ASCN before shooting on them, because he doesnt play the game to make power politics like Mr. CYVOK here but simply to PvP and have some fun on the battlefield.
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BlackSabbath
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Posted - 2005.12.08 18:41:00 -
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doesnt realy explain why se started shooting ascn weeks ago. even if you are in G gang you still see +5 on ascn members no need to get on the kill mail
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DeWieKat
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Posted - 2005.12.08 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: DeWieKat on 08/12/2005 18:45:25
by the way, i know that when shifu learned about those attack by "blue" ascn pilots he sent several messages to cyvok requesting a convo to fix the situation on good terms for each party, but... he was ignored, so why cyvok is comming up with his reasons now?
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.12.08 20:32:00 -
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Quote:
When we (ADGA) took one of the stations in Omist,
Although not 100% sure (it's around 99.9999%), these stations were under the control of KOS when SE shot them up and claimed them.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.12.08 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sceartan
Quote:
When we (ADGA) took one of the stations in Omist,
Although not 100% sure (it's around 99.9999%), these stations were under the control of KOS when SE shot them up and claimed them.
Doesnt change the fact that MASS and other SA corps had docking rights (there were even some clone contracts), we simply wanted to cut you off your economical resources. That wouldnt have happened (or ensured) if we asked KOS to remove those rights, they would deny that they even exist, why trust ex-SA corps. I rather pity KOS, not that they cant put up a fight and defend them selves but because they are cought in the middle of a conflict that doesnt really concerns them.
Anyway I kindly ask you to drop this, as the topic at hand is actually about SE and CYVOKs rather funny ultimatom.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.12.08 23:05:00 -
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not 100% on this but don't KOS shoot sa? ;p
not sure :|
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Namelesz
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Posted - 2005.12.08 23:41:00 -
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KOS defend their home, plain and simple.
Their home is Omist, most of them lived in that region for quite a while and are tied to it. KOS formed up a few days before the weekend SE showed up and started taking Omist stations, at that time SE moved in with G assisting with a 100+ ship fleet to take Omist. KOS being still in its infancy was no match and had to succeed to SE at that time while they gathered their thoughts and supplies. Now what you have in that region is the result which is the region in dispute with KOS looking slightly in the advantage owning 2/3 of the stations there.
I am no longer affiliated with KOS, but I was there for the beginning and agree with a post above that its a pity KOS got in the middle of a war that didnt concern them.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed my time there, met some good people and some honorable enemies. There was a little smack in local from SE and other invaders like NBSI, SMASH, BE, etc. but nothing compared to some stuff I get when venturing up north. Anyway, i butted in on this topic enough, have fun to SE and ASCN.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.12.09 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK
We changed our standings to SE for the following reasons.
1) Your memebrs began flying with G gangs
It would be real easy for SE to become friendly to ASCN again.
1) Stop shooting SA, ASCN, & KOS.
G never shared a gang with SE - not in the SA war and not in this one. As we asked, what SE's standings towards u guys were (when G/IRON/Razor vs. ASCN started) they stated that they have good relationship towards you and dont want to get involved at all.
Asking SE to stop shooting SA? wtf? 
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.12.09 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Namelesz
at that time SE moved in with G assisting with a 100+ ship fleet to take Omist.
what a load of crap, we never were in omist
-G- Pink Power
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Orc A
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Posted - 2005.12.09 01:42:00 -
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SE and SA, since the split, have not stopped shooting each other for 1 day.
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Namelesz
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Posted - 2005.12.09 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Namelesz
at that time SE moved in with G assisting with a 100+ ship fleet to take Omist.
what a load of crap, we never were in omist
sorry, musta been bad intel. or i misheard which alliance helped SE.
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wild
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Posted - 2005.12.09 05:53:00 -
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KOS was formed when we were half through the Mass refinery,
1. we controled the station not mass, you need to read the mails you get before you talk.
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wild
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Posted - 2005.12.09 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Dao 2
not 100% on this but don't KOS shoot sa? ;p
not sure :|
no we did NOT SA has not be in Omist after KOS control the stations
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