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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8414
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:43:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:CONCORD makes it hard to move around in hisec if your sec status is low, but I'm sure that is what you meant. Faction Navies only care about your faction standings, and are laughingly ineffective.
No, it's the faction navies that shoot you when you have a low sec status. CONCORD only shoots you when you have a GCC. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
430
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:43:00 -
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Milan Nantucket wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:Sandbox is also player content. That means if they want prisons with public stocks for criminals, hey, it's a sandbox game...right??? Wow, you're even dumber than usual today. No, you're wrong. Sandbox is player content. What they are asking for is a CCP created solution to a "problem" that they just can't seem to get over. They are asking for a developer solution to a player created problem. If you want to "jail" them, fine, go do it yourself. But if you don't want to put any more work in than coming on the forums to whine, then no soup for you. CCP does it all the time... look at safeties and the easy button on "exploration". Problem:Players somehow shoot things in high sec or take something that ain't theirs and they complained. Solution: Safeties. Problem: What is triangulation... i never passed maths so how can I explore if I can't understand probes or basic geometry. Solution: Click this button and we find it for you. Problem: People getting ganked by true gate camps. Solution: Warp to 0 and jump freighters
It's why the guy is on /ignore. All he spews is crap.
Devs design the sandbox how they want it to play, it's a misnomer to think players themselves create ALL the content in EvE (they don't). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10380
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:43:00 -
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Elizabeth Aideron wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Andski wrote:What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspend somebody's account, and CCP will never give players that power, ever. Scamming doesn't need consequences because being scammed is a consequence of being stupid. Hope this helps. omg, are you unable to read? I do not want to give the player access to suspend the account, whats up with you? read the thread dude, we want consequences for scammers, are you a baby? no consequences for nothing you do? putting someone in "prison" for the week is just suspending their account with a bit of embellishment
But he's right (in his own head at least), just look at all the valid points he's made in this thread (precisely none)
Ace Uoweme wrote:
It's why the guy is on /ignore. All he spews is crap.
Devs design the sandbox how they want it to play, it's a misnomer to think players themselves create ALL the content in EvE (they don't).
So sayeth the expert on talking utter bollocks.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8414
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:45:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Andski wrote:What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspend somebody's account, and CCP will never give players that power, ever. Scamming doesn't need consequences because being scammed is a consequence of being stupid. Hope this helps. omg, are you unable to read? I do not want to give the player access to suspend the account, whats up with you? read the thread dude, we want consequences for scammers, are you a baby? no consequences for nothing you do?
"What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspect somebody's account"
Because, you know, I'm comparing this proposed "jail" of yours to an account suspension, because it's really not much different. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
356
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:47:00 -
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Andski wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Andski wrote:What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspend somebody's account, and CCP will never give players that power, ever. Scamming doesn't need consequences because being scammed is a consequence of being stupid. Hope this helps. omg, are you unable to read? I do not want to give the player access to suspend the account, whats up with you? read the thread dude, we want consequences for scammers, are you a baby? no consequences for nothing you do? "What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspect somebody's account" Because, you know, I'm comparing this proposed "jail" of yours to an account suspension, because it's really not much different.
I already reduced it to 1-24 hour prison, so you babies do not feel uncomfortable OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
430
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:48:00 -
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Andski wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:CONCORD makes it hard to move around in hisec if your sec status is low, but I'm sure that is what you meant. Faction Navies only care about your faction standings, and are laughingly ineffective. No, it's the faction navies that shoot you when you have a low sec status. CONCORD only shoots you when you have a GCC.
And both are worthless because the criminal can escape by podding, since NPCs don't kill pods like players can (and most of them don't bother as they're auto-piloting or in a rush).
So the Risks vs Rewards is even bypassed.
This is why being a criminal in EvE is as much as being a baby needing a pacifier to play.
The Risks need more teeth, not more pacifiers. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
450
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:50:00 -
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Quote: CCP does it all the time... look at safeties and the easy button on "exploration".
Problem:Players somehow shoot things in high sec or take something that ain't theirs and they complained. Solution: Safeties.
Problem: What is triangulation... i never passed maths so how can I explore if I can't understand probes or basic geometry. Solution: Click this button and we find it for you.
Problem: People getting ganked by true gate camps. Solution: Warp to 0 and jump freighters
Two of those problems are quite different. Particularly because they aren't player created problems.
CCP said it best themselves, but I'll paraphrase. Having a clunky UI or cumbersome mechanics for something doesn't equate to the difficulties of EVE being a harsh universe.
The probing system, both times it got revamped, was harder than it needed to be. It's a bit too easy now, yeah, but that's still better than having poor design elements get in your way to accomplishing a task more than the mechanics of the difficulty.
It was harder to figure out how to probe, than it was to mathematically scan down sites. Triangulation aside, it was just too clunky.
Safeties? That I can see an argument for also. Many times my cat has jumped on my laptop and cost me a ship becaue he hit F1. Once again, punishments to the player for not being able to adhere to poor design elements is different.
Gatecamping? Eh, I have no answer for that. That one, I concede the point. Doesn't stop people from being moronic and autopiloting anyway, though. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
1255
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:51:00 -
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Please, ISD, for the love of all that is EVE do NOT move this to F&I, we have enough bad threads there as it is. We don't need another. Ideas for Drone ImprovementTwitter Account-á @Omnathious |

Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:52:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Andski wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:CONCORD makes it hard to move around in hisec if your sec status is low, but I'm sure that is what you meant. Faction Navies only care about your faction standings, and are laughingly ineffective. No, it's the faction navies that shoot you when you have a low sec status. CONCORD only shoots you when you have a GCC. And both are worthless because the criminal can escape by podding, since NPCs don't kill pods like players can (and most of them don't bother as they're auto-piloting or in a rush). So the Risks vs Rewards is even bypassed. This is why being a criminal in EvE is as much as being a baby needing a pacifier to play. The Risks need more teeth, not more pacifiers.
the problem is that the people who are going to shoot outlaw pods are likely to be outlaws themselves (or not in highsec). hth |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10380
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:54:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:
And both are worthless because the criminal can escape by podding, since NPCs don't kill pods like players can (and most of them don't bother as they're auto-piloting or in a rush).
So what you're saying is that CCP should make Concord pod criminals because players are too damn lazy to do it themselves? GTFO.
If you want to instigate consequences for criminal activity beyond what already exists then get out there and encourage players to get off their collective backside and do something about it, instead of relying on CCP to apply a band-aid.
It's up to players to provide consequences over and above the already existing ones, CCP have given the players a toolbox, it's up to the players to use it.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8415
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:58:00 -
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Well hey, if you want CONCORD to start shooting pods, I think all NPCs should shoot lingering pods. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3075
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:00:00 -
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Hey, maybe the prisons could be part of WiS? You get to walk around in the prison instead of the captains quarters!
Wonder how much soap on a rope would cost in the NEX store?  |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10383
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:01:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Hey, maybe the prisons could be part of WiS? You get to walk around in the prison instead of the captains quarters! Wonder how much soap on a rope would cost in the NEX store?  Mimatar CQ, nuff said.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |

Cassius Clayy
Dred Nots
4
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:01:00 -
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0/10 |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
356
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:08:00 -
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blocked for missing content OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2895
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:11:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:blocked for missing content
I've heard if you also cover your eyes with both hands people can't see you.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
450
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:11:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:blocked for missing content
Oh, snap! What is he gonna do now!
It's not like blocking someone is basically throwing in the towel, no sir! Blocking someone shows everyone what a winner you are! Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
356
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:13:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Harry Forever wrote:blocked for missing content I've heard if you also cover your eyes with both hands people can't see you.
was there a content? maybe you covered your eyes and did see it, just tell me OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
23
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:15:00 -
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10 pages of prison talk and no one has addressed the shower scene or girl on girl situation? |

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
431
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:16:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Harry Forever wrote:blocked for missing content I've heard if you also cover your eyes with both hands people can't see you.
Folks are put on /ignore because they can't even debate but by the lowest denominator. It's just a way to avoid even wasting time seeing what they spam. What they post back isn't worthy to even answer, no matter how they try to egg a response.  "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2897
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:17:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Harry Forever wrote:blocked for missing content I've heard if you also cover your eyes with both hands people can't see you. was there a content? maybe you covered your eyes and did see it, just tell me
Yes. He was accurately rating the merits of your thread on the troll subtlety scale:
0/10 The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10389
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:26:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote: Folks are put on /ignore because they can't even debate but by the lowest denominator. It's just a way to avoid even wasting time seeing what they spam. What they post back isn't worthy to even answer, no matter how they try to egg a response. because they have called me out on the amount of shiptoasting/ bad ideas that I spew on the forum, because they can present a coherent argument that makes me look bad, in my particular case because they hate that I talk about how fabulous WoW and its developers are, how I think that CCP should follow their example to attract the masses and in the process dumb the game down so far that it fails like all the others that have tried to emulate WoW, so that I can crow once again about how WoW is the best thing since sliced bread.
FTFY
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |

Manfred Hideous
TOHOKU 9.0
40
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Posted - 2013.07.12 17:33:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Elizabeth Aideron wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Andski wrote:What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspend somebody's account, and CCP will never give players that power, ever. Scamming doesn't need consequences because being scammed is a consequence of being stupid. Hope this helps. omg, are you unable to read? I do not want to give the player access to suspend the account, whats up with you? read the thread dude, we want consequences for scammers, are you a baby? no consequences for nothing you do? putting someone in "prison" for the week is just suspending their account with a bit of embellishment then let it be 1-24 hours, maybe the week is too long, I'm sure you babies can handle those consequences
You going to pay my days of lost play? That's a bullshit stupid idea. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
356
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:59:00 -
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what an insane amount of baby tears, scammers want to rob countless hours from players, however when somebody comes up with an idea to have one or two hours consequences for their doing, they cry me a river OMG! the asteroid is depleted! |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3075
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:04:00 -
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I see what you did there.  |

Vrenth
Black-Talon
20
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:06:00 -
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I would just kill myself.... bam, out of jail. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
453
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:07:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:what an insane amount of baby tears, scammers want to rob countless hours from players, however when somebody comes up with an idea to have one or two hours consequences for their doing, they cry me a river
But that isn't what you said. That's what you're saying now, after you basically got slapped down about saying you wanted people getting a 7 day functional ban based on the groupthink "peer" votes of a bunch of butthurt carebears. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
2898
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:14:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:butthurt carebears.
I think I have a new band name.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
453
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:16:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:butthurt carebears. I think I have a new band name.
Make sure and add:
Special Snowflakes
Hurt Feelings Brigade
and
Frequent Petitioners. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10412
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:25:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:butthurt carebears. I think I have a new band name. Make sure and add: Special Snowflakes Hurt Feelings Brigade and Frequent Petitioners.
You forgot "Habitual Shiptoasters"
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |
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