Belongs in F&I.

Also, butthurt.

you are not able to make a single thoughtful comment, since over 3 month now, funny, but keep trying...

Don't talk to yourself, it's a sign of insanity. :P

I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first.
Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week

various features could be implemented that catching other players do not get too easy. Maybe need of special modules, having at least 5-10 people involved in the capturing process, and a special prison fee

please add your ideas, this should bring consequences to the game for liars, traitors and scammers. I feel those are needed because they are missing at the moment!

no, try again

How about we do it for posters that have consistently proved they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about instead?

Ok, how about, since this a suggestion for a feature to be added to the game, it belongs on Features and Ideas, not GD?

Nevermind that it's a stupid idea, but hey, first things first.

and again you are just showing me that you do not understand my posts

That'll be because I don't speak idiot, or understand gibberish.

and again you are just showing me that you do not understand my posts

I'm relieved to say this will never happen. Stop players from playing a game they're paying for? Um, no...

I don't think a prison with active players would work. If someone scams you, blow up their ship, wardec their corp or find some other way to cost them ISK.

I do think that a prison full of all the banned players would be cool. One that you could walk through like the captains quarters. Have little tags on the bottom of the cage that says the date they were banned and the reason.

Have it set up like a "Silence of the Lambs" walk through the cages...

the just move on to another thread please, otherwise i get the feeling you want to understand me but are not able to

I feel that it is my duty to point out idiocy, stupidity and just plain trolling, you're guilty of all three, besides you asked for feedback and ideas, I've provided both. Now please insert another coin to continue.

I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first.
Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week

various features could be implemented that catching other players do not get too easy. Maybe need of special modules, having at least 5-10 people involved in the capturing process, and a special prison fee

please add your ideas, this should bring consequences to the game for liars, traitors and scammers. I feel those are needed because they are missing at the moment!

Edit: maybe they should still be able to do basic stuff like mining, lets say if they mine a certain amount for the guy who took them to prison, then they are free upfront

We really need a new Troll Posts subforum.

So you are suggesting a game system where a player pays NOT to play with a character. I think not.

I want [...] an ingame Prison.

Will there be a jury of our peers?

as you can see its part of the game, he still should be able to do basic stuff, if I'm shot down in my pod I'm also not able to do everything, so its just another form of punishment for a short time...

You know scammers dont undock, right?

Not sure if serious or just trolling.

stupid is no argument

its in GD to get feedback of a broader audience, mentioned in the first line, it should be discussed before implementation

however you do not add anything, except your words, stupid, butthurt etc. very thoughtful again

Not sure if serious or just trolling.

however they should still be able to do basic stuff like mining, lets say if they mine a certain amount for the guy who took them to prison, then they are free upfront

Stupid is an argument to be used with people who do not punctuate their sentences.

And it's in GD, obviously enough, to get more attention, because you know it will die in F&I. So be honest, for once.

the prison mechanic could also be implemented by a special voting system, maybe scammed people can go together and vote, however there would need to be a mechanic to identify scammed people, so you gat a voting right comparable like a killright

honestly, that would be cool as well :D maybe like a voting system or something

check the edits, in the OP, there are some really good ideas if you are able to open up your blocked mind

the prison mechanic could also be implemented by a special voting system, maybe scammed people can go together and vote

So why can't I hire mercs to permanently lock you in space jail?

the voting system mentioned in the OP edit would make it possible to punish scammers who are just sitting in stations, thats one big thing missing, to have those get punished by a game mechanic, or at least have the possibility to do so

check the edits, in the OP, there are some really good ideas if you are able to open up your blocked mind

This is the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard of in the history of stupid Eve ideas.

Despite having been blocked for pointing out that you are a troll, I must ask you to point out these good ideas, because I just can't see them. In fact my cat has posted better ideas by parking her backside on the keyboard.

This is my cat, bask in her cuteness, for she is an infinitely better poster than the OP

The counter to scammers sitting in stations is to not get scammed. Or scam them back.
This is EVE. Here, being a sneaky bastard is not punished by mechanics. You have to do that yourself. Work for your victory.

I've seen the idea of "space jail" brought up a few times over the years. Always has been shot down because you are preventing someone from playing a game they are paying for.

In my opinion this is nothing like scamming someone out of a plex, different issues in my mind.

I'm all for giving people mechanics for screwing someone over, but this just seems like a bad idea.

this is EvE, god when I hear that line, open up, it feels you guys have serious barriers in your minds

See my post above, please. And stay on topic.

Cats or GTFO.

Yet another terrible idea

Your idea is terrible

You're all wrong, frustrated and angry because you think my ideas are bad

ROFL

I'm right and you're all wrong

you are not able to make a single thoughtful comment, since over 3 month now, funny, but keep trying...

Anybody else seeing a pattern here?

Why I have him on ignore.

Don't have to see the downright negative dribble. Even these other trolls at least add entertainment to laugh about (especially all the null smack). That dude is bitter as it comes, like a cornered cat that'll claw at anything, and not funny at all. The epitome of a Bittervet.

yes please open up your own threads and discuss about all the stuff you do not understand, you people are anoying and do not add anything to the topic

again, you also prevent me from playing when i get shot down and sit in a capsule

again, you also prevent me from playing when i get shot down and sit in a capsule, this is just another mechanic, just read the details, persons in jail can still do stuff

but tbh you may as well be King Canute trying to stop the tide, he suffered from hubris as well.

Actually quite the reverse. You should read up on it - if the incident with the tide actually happened it was a clever bit of politics.

Not really. You just go back to your station, grab another ship and keep playing. Locking somebody out of the game for several days is something else entirely. Plus, while I'd love to imprison each and every last stabbed FW plex farmer, this mechanic would simply be abused to imprison anyone you don't like - the AI can't tell whether you just got scammed or not.

Posting in stupid Harry idea thread #213. Seriously man, take the hint. People try to tell you nicely(by eve standards) but you won't consider what anyone else has to say.

I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first.
Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week

various features could be implemented that catching other players do not get too easy. Maybe need of special modules, having at least 5-10 people involved in the capturing process, and a special prison fee

please add your ideas, this should bring consequences to the game for liars, traitors and scammers. I feel those are needed because they are missing at the moment!

Edit: maybe they should still be able to do basic stuff like mining, lets say if they mine a certain amount for the guy who took them to prison, then they are free upfront

Edit: the prison mechanic could also be implemented by a special voting system, maybe scammed people can go together and vote, however there would need to be a mechanic to identify scammed people, so you get a voting right comparable to killrights

at the moment there are zero consequences for scamming, thats just boring

My favorite part is the "voting" possibility.

My favorite part is the "voting" possibility.

Like that will work any better than, you know, voting for CSM. I can just imagine how much fun that would be. Wouldn't even have to DDoS people anymore, the "prison" system will do it for us!

EVE Offline, pay not to play!

I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first.
Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week

votingrights should only be possible conected with game mechanics, like mentioned simular to the killrights

you get scammed you get a voting right, mechanics could be implemented for basic and obvious scams

I may well be wrong about King Canute suffering from hubris, my history classes are 30 years in the past. It still doesn't mean that Harry's idea is good though.

Yeah, no argument about that... The analogy was certainly valid.

I think about it for obious scam mechanics nown in the game, if somebody uses those then the opposite party gets a voting right against that player like a killright you receive when shotdown in nullsec

*new player logs in*
Newbro > hi guys whats up
Newbro > just joined and likin the game
Notification: you have been convicted by capsuleer vote of crimes including scamming and egregrious bumping. You are restricted to mining or remaining docked for the next seven days (06:23:59:59 remaining). A fine of 1,500,000.00 ISK has been levied automatically.
Newbro > f u guys im out
*New player logs out and goes to play something more fun*

before you start posting something silly

I agree that there should be an option to take revenge whenever you feel "wronged"

There is. It's EVE, there are always ways to get revenge.

You shoot them.

But that's the problem - even the obvious scam mechanics aren't necessarily obvious to the computer. Maybe somebody just doesn't have the ISK to cover the buy order (margin trading scam), was aware that he was paying too much for a ship in a trade window or was rejected from a corp after paying a recruitment fee for a good reason. Otherwise I could just send you a few million ISK, claim you scammed me by not doubling it and get an angry mob to imprison you.

I agree that there should be an option to take revenge whenever you feel "wronged", but I assume you also agree that one man's need for revenge shouldn't enable the whole world to harass innocent bystanders.

Probably the best way to fight scammers is to teach new players about the scams. When I joined my first player corp they frequently told all new arrivals about different types of scams and how to avoid them. Maybe you could spend your time & energy on something like that instead? Once people stop falling for scams the scammers will disappear.

There is. It's EVE, there are always ways to get revenge.

You shoot them.

How about a 'force undock' feature so you can shoot the scammer?

How about a 'force undock' feature so you can shoot the scammer?

Look! Another terribad game idea dumped in GD because the OP believes he is "special". .

I have something to soothe your pain.

Look! Another terribad game idea dumped in GD because the OP believes he is "special". .

I have something to soothe your pain.

innocent can not be harassed because of the link, of the mechanic, CCP would set one up like the killright thing, I'm pretty sure it could be done somehow and it would add to the game perfectly, for sure a lot of stuff would need to be thought through in detail however

*new player logs in*
Newbro > hi guys whats up
Newbro > just joined and likin the game
Notification: you have been convicted by capsuleer vote of crimes including scamming and egregrious bumping. You are restricted to mining or remaining docked for the next seven days (06:23:59:59 remaining). A fine of 1,500,000.00 ISK has been levied automatically.
Newbro > f u guys im out
*New player logs out and goes to play something more fun*

adding to your frustration makes me happy Doc, because you have nothing to give except anger

All I'm saying is that I understand the OP's frustration with people hiding in stations and NPC corps

I'm setting up ideas, therefore used my brain, you just **** stupid comments out of your keyboard

Protip: Go set up your "ideas" in the correct forum area, and you won't get as many replies that hurt your feelings.

Honestly, this would be as fruitless as a war on drugs. All you would get is overcrowded digital prisons and start a corrupt for profit prison business that would spread throughout the virtual court system, CONCORD, and our elected CSM's. All to punish people who really weren't much of a detriment to our online society.

There's harsher games out there than EvE, that h-u-r-t even for newbies. They don't have to stage "danger" by "end-gamers" to gank lowbies or scam them, the game itself hurts even the gankers and thieves. They stick to the more profitable activities that's worth the effort and consequences.

And that's the flaw in the EvE crime system. It's too easy, without the consequences, so "end-gamers" can do that junk. It's too easy to ENCOURAGE it as a "career", because babies engage in it. CCP has to hand hold them to even play.

protip: leave the forum because you do not add anything of interest

Look who's talking.

I'm not saying there aren't issues with how crime works, or how new players are treated. I'm saying a crowd voting system that affects other people is going to get abused all the way to VFK and back. And one like this would absolutely result in people sitting in Help chat ambushing new players with overwhelming imprisonment votes.

protip: leave the forum because you do not add anything of interest


just open up your own thread, and let people add comments like yours all the time, to find out how good you are... go for it please, I encourage you... just adding dull comments to others is easy

I don't understand this frustration at all. This is because I have the ability to accept my own mistakes, and learn from them, like an adult.

A child, on the other hand, cries when things don't go their way.

Here's your checklist:

First of all, don't get scammed. It's absurdly easy. (if anything, buff scamming)

Secondly, deal with it. Deal with being ganked, bumped, scammed, or any of this other crap that all the hurt feelings brigade want to call "griefing".

Thirdly, correct any behavior that led to you being a target, and move on.

But the refusal to learn from mistakes? No, I do not understand that.

Personally I'm the "ah, interesting, lesson learnt, won't do that again" type but then I don't live in high-sec, people there have a reputation for being a bit thin-skinned

I feel that it is my duty to point out idiocy, stupidity and just plain trolling, you're guilty of all three, besides you asked for feedback and ideas, I've provided both. Now please insert another coin to continue.

the voting right is connected to a game mechanic, therefore new players can not be imprisoned

I do live in highsec and I'm also of the same "lesson learnt, don't do it again" type.

Heh, didn't mean to offend you.

You need a life if you think that is your duty. I agree that this idea is rather questionable, but so are your manners.

I do think that a prison full of all the banned players would be cool. One that you could walk through like the captains quarters. Have little tags on the bottom of the cage that says the date they were banned and the reason.

Have it set up like a "Silence of the Lambs" walk through the cages...

I find it amusing that you post such a clearly ridiculous idea in GD claiming that you want feedback from a wider audience and then anyone who tries to point out its flaws and explain how it wouldn't work just gets shouted at for being unhelpful and then blocked.

Ever heard of constructive criticism?

Horrible idea. The point is that this game is a sandbox. Players do what they enjoy doing, if that includes scamming and awoxing then that is up to them.

This thread has 6 pages.

Again, folks are missing the idea of what a sandbox is -- players would want a prison as well. Being that it is a sandbox game, those mechanics and game play are equally valid.

Cops and robbers gameplay is classic and works in concept and reality.

Really want to be a criminal RP the part, but there's risks vs rewards to also think about (and criminals aren't babies that need devs to hand hold them to even play).

How about CCP just release WiS once it is ready, and when someone scams or annoys me, I dock at his station, leave my ship, kick down his CQ door and just punch his smug face in?
Much easier and much more satisfying.

He peed on the Dude's rug!

But that's the problem - even the obvious scam mechanics aren't necessarily obvious to the computer. Maybe somebody just doesn't have the ISK to cover the buy order (margin trading scam), was aware that he was paying too much for a ship in a trade window or was rejected from a corp after paying a recruitment fee for a good reason. Otherwise I could just send you a few million ISK, claim you scammed me by not doubling it and get an angry mob to imprison you...

That's part of the reason that the computers can't figure out what's a scam and what is not. Computers may not be smart enough to understand the difference between a scam and someone who made a mistake. In fact, as is proven, time and again, is that people always figure out how to use computers to do their dirty work for them. It's why online scams are so common in real life.

I don't believe there are "scam mechanics".

Which is why other games don't have this as game play in games. What's the petition wait time in EvE again?

HarryGǪdonGÇÖt let these forum warriors get or beat you down. I for one appreciate your unique perspective thought and ideas and content and freshness you bring to the game and forums.

This is a hell of a lot better than the no stop trolling they can only offer thread after thread.

Keep fighting the good fight.

If players want a prison system then it's up to the players to build one, and all the necessary infrastructure to support it. If Harry want to punish scammers then he has to do it using the existing mechanics, instead of asking CCP to do it for him.

I can already think of 2 obvious ways to bypass any prison in Eve, jumpclones and self destruction. We're supposedly immortal so committing suicide to bypass a prison sentence is trivial.

Maybe you don't know how scamming works....

1) Get a crappy alt
2) Spam all day
3) Some idiot falls for scam
4) Spam all day
5) Another idiot
6) Spam all day
7) another idiot
8) .... and so on and so forth
9) Biomass
10) Rinse and repeat

No undocking is nowhere in the list so no "game mechanic" is there for any "Retribution". Now the idea is putting in an actual risk for something that is well riskless.

We really need a new Troll Posts subforum.

And perhaps a UO-type mini-game in the CQ to cater for the Op.

OP - just imagine an situation which is now and then very often - ganking.

What will prevent some gank squaq to vote to jail absolutely honest and not-scamming capsuleers?

If for example some corp with 500+ people will send corpletter to all with order to vote for XYZ, just because he dont paid "protection" fee?

Where is court? Where are judges?

Anyway, I think if is there some jail for scammer really set up (by some miracle or whatewer), than there should be also some detention facility for people who let them to be scammed, some lunatic-asylum kind of camp for this mindless people...

I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first.
Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week

various features could be implemented that catching other players do not get too easy. Maybe need of special modules, having at least 5-10 people involved in the capturing process, and a special prison fee

please add your ideas, this should bring consequences to the game for liars, traitors and scammers. I feel those are needed because they are missing at the moment!

Edit: maybe they should still be able to do basic stuff like mining, lets say if they mine a certain amount for the guy who took them to prison, then they are free upfront

Edit: the prison mechanic could also be implemented by a special voting system, maybe scammed people can go together and vote, however there would need to be a mechanic to identify scammed people, so you get a voting right comparable to killrights

Horrible idea. The point is that this game is a sandbox. Players do what they enjoy doing, if that includes scamming and awoxing then that is up to them. That is what players love about EVE. How many thousand players joined the game after huge scams and thefts from in game were published on the internet? Ever wonder why that is?

You also have the issue of who would continue to pay for a game when they get stuck in a prison and can only mine. Most people don't want that and you would get a lot of unsubs.

I find it amusing that you post such a clearly ridiculous idea in GD claiming that you want feedback from a wider audience and then anyone who tries to point out its flaws and explain how it wouldn't work just gets shouted at for being unhelpful and then blocked. Ever heard of constructive criticism? In this case we are constructively telling you that this idea would never ever work and would hurt EVE.

Honestly, this would be as fruitless as a war on drugs. All you would get is overcrowded digital prisons and start a corrupt for profit prison business that would spread throughout the virtual court system, CONCORD, and our elected CSM's. All to punish people who really weren't much of a detriment to our online society.

I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first.
Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week

various features could be implemented that catching other players do not get too easy. Maybe need of special modules, having at least 5-10 people involved in the capturing process, and a special prison fee

please add your ideas, this should bring consequences to the game for liars, traitors and scammers. I feel those are needed because they are missing at the moment!

Edit: maybe they should still be able to do basic stuff like mining, lets say if they mine a certain amount for the guy who took them to prison, then they are free upfront

Edit: the prison mechanic could also be implemented by a special voting system, maybe scammed people can go together and vote, however there would need to be a mechanic to identify scammed people, so you get a voting right comparable to killrights

If you look at EvE itself, it is a prison to begin with. "Anything goes" behind the bars, with the guard (devs) keeping them inside.

All that is missing is lockdown (solitary confinement).

Even America's Army has Fort Levenworth in it's game, for egregious team killers.

I want your posting privileges stripped after reading this garbage. Go back to WoW or something.

I'm right, I know I'm right and anybody that tells me that I'm not right is wrong and clearly an idiot, I shall block them because they're idiots and because they're wrong.

I want your posting privileges stripped after reading this garbage. Go back to WoW or something.

Pull your head out of your arse Harry, your idea is silly, you've been told it's silly by multiple people and yet you still believe that your suggestion has merit.

I'm sure the scam tactics can be put into a mechanic

What would work better is a kind of reputation tracking system similar to the way ebay does it.

I doubt we'll ever see a player jail because it would require a court. Without due process it could become arbitrary and there would be trolls using it as a weapon, kind of like the days of "aggro fu" before it was possible to blue a wreck and before crimewatch.


What would work better is a kind of reputation tracking system similar to the way ebay does it.

We have lockdown. It's when you lose your staging system and are suddenly impoverished because of the isk you had tied up in those assets. :)

stop adding your words to my quotes, honestly, don't you have anything better to do?

silly is not an agrument, but keep trying to search for one, if there is any

I'm curious, could you make an example? As in "you could detect scam X by checking if somebody does Y and Z"?

I'm not adding words, I'm actually removing them and then distilling your meaningless drivel down into its purest form.

Something like bounties?

just lookup marging trading scam all that kind of stuff

wherelse I hade a lot already, what do you think that tells us? hmmm...

If the bounty system had some means of tracking or displaying the reason for the bounty in such manner that when placing a bounty, a list of reasons becomes possible.

Pfft that's nothing.

ISK in a game where you can just more of it, breeds the arrogance seen around here with the Goons. Free 5 man accounts for those who kiss enough butt.

Risks vs Rewards need to feel the risk, not just have endless rewards because they can buy replacements.

Gatecampers doing illegal actions, get a posse together, round them up and put the sleeze bags in jail. Or better, public stocks, so we can throw space junk their way.

If the bounty system had some means of tracking or displaying the reason for the bounty in such manner that when placing a bounty, a list of reasons becomes possible. It would help actually because whenever you see people with a bounty we would wonder why, especially if it was a huge bounty, like "wow, what did that dude do?".

Was it for not honoring ransoms? Was it for gratuitous podding? Noob harvesting? Or was is market scamming? Perhaps it was for being too good at the market, or PVP? Maybe loot stealing or corp theft?

Presently anybody can put a bounty on anybody, but there's no way to track the reason for it. That reason can be important.

But that's a perfect example for something that's a valid game mechanic, margin trading is normal for honest traders.

What would work better is a kind of reputation tracking system similar to the way ebay does it.

I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first.
Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week


Edit: maybe they should still be able to do basic stuff like mining, lets say if they mine a certain amount for the guy who took them to prison, then they are free upfront

scamming with it is not honest

scamming with it is not honest

Dude, too much Ultima online?

I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first.
Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week

various features could be implemented that catching other players do not get too easy. Maybe need of special modules, having at least 5-10 people involved in the capturing process, and a special prison fee

please add your ideas, this should bring consequences to the game for liars, traitors and scammers. I feel those are needed because they are missing at the moment!

Edit: maybe they should still be able to do basic stuff like mining, lets say if they mine a certain amount for the guy who took them to prison, then they are free upfront

Edit: the prison mechanic could also be implemented by a special voting system, maybe scammed people can go together and vote, however there would need to be a mechanic to identify scammed people, so you get a voting right comparable to killrights

Edit: maybe prison escape mechanics should be added as well, like people beeing able to free others from prison, maybe there also should be PvP player controlled prisons and PvE prisons controlled by the computer

was that in the game? if yes that would be awesome, who could know better whats needed then richard garriott himself

I know how the scams work, although I can think of several "scammers" that would disagree with how you think they work. I'll even give you a couple of names of "scammers" that undock, Miilla and Erotica 1, both of which I am sure would love you to try and gain some retribution.

Scams only work because the "mark" is too stupid or greedy to read properly.

I also have hatred towards people who are mor successful than my scrub as... Wait, no I don't!

So your saying that those two own all the other accounts that don't bother undocking and hide behind their anonymity. I also don't consider Erotica a scammer as he/she tells you exactly what to do.

Retribution isn't gained when they undock and then redock. As i tried your suggestion and it's still kind of hard to pew pew inside a station.

Sandbox is also player content. That means if they want prisons with public stocks for criminals, hey, it's a sandbox game...right???

What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspend somebody's account, and CCP will never give players that power, ever. Scamming doesn't need consequences because being scammed is a consequence of being stupid. Hope this helps.

Yep, Ultima Online had perfect jail system :)

Also, most private servers had jails where it was possible to get out by chopping wood/mining etc :)

Im not sure is it legit to post such links here, but here it goes - http://runuo.theabyss.eu/?jail

Wow, you're even dumber than usual today.

No, you're wrong. Sandbox is player content.

What they are asking for is a CCP created solution to a "problem" that they just can't seem to get over.

They are asking for a developer solution to a player created problem.

If you want to "jail" them, fine, go do it yourself. But if you don't want to put any more work in than coming on the forums to whine, then no soup for you.

If you really think about it lowsex is sorta like a prison. Get to -5 or lower you sorta stay there and grind sec status back or pay concord their bribe in tags/fee's to "get out of prison".

Yep, Ultima Online had perfect jail system :)

Also, most private servers had jails where it was possible to get out by chopping wood/mining etc :)

Im not sure is it legit to post such links here, but here it goes - http://runuo.theabyss.eu/?jail

The difference is that that was directly executed by GMs, not through player votes or whatever.

True:)

Player voting is a bad idea...
For example If I have 10-20 alts, I can Just throw 20 votes against someone, and no one will ever know :D That they belong to me :D

What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspend somebody's account, and CCP will never give players that power, ever. Scamming doesn't need consequences because being scammed is a consequence of being stupid. Hope this helps.

True:)

Player voting is a bad idea...
For example If I have 10-20 alts, I can Just throw 20 votes against someone, and no one will ever know :D That they belong to me :D

omg, are you unable to read? I do not want to give the player access to suspend the account, whats up with you? read the thread dude, we want consequences for scammers, are you a baby? no consequences for nothing you do?

putting someone in "prison" for the week is just suspending their account with a bit of embellishment

CONCORD makes it hard to move around in hisec if your sec status is low, but I'm sure that is what you meant. Faction Navies only care about your faction standings, and are laughingly ineffective.

CCP does it all the time... look at safeties and the easy button on "exploration".

Problem:Players somehow shoot things in high sec or take something that ain't theirs and they complained.
Solution: Safeties.

Problem: What is triangulation... i never passed maths so how can I explore if I can't understand probes or basic geometry.
Solution: Click this button and we find it for you.

Problem: People getting ganked by true gate camps.
Solution: Warp to 0 and jump freighters

putting someone in "prison" for the week is just suspending their account with a bit of embellishment

It's why the guy is on /ignore. All he spews is crap.

Devs design the sandbox how they want it to play, it's a misnomer to think players themselves create ALL the content in EvE (they don't).

omg, are you unable to read? I do not want to give the player access to suspend the account, whats up with you? read the thread dude, we want consequences for scammers, are you a baby? no consequences for nothing you do?

"What you're asking for amounts to a vote to suspect somebody's account"

Because, you know, I'm comparing this proposed "jail" of yours to an account suspension, because it's really not much different.

No, it's the faction navies that shoot you when you have a low sec status. CONCORD only shoots you when you have a GCC.

CCP does it all the time... look at safeties and the easy button on "exploration".

Problem:Players somehow shoot things in high sec or take something that ain't theirs and they complained.
Solution: Safeties.

Problem: What is triangulation... i never passed maths so how can I explore if I can't understand probes or basic geometry.
Solution: Click this button and we find it for you.

Problem: People getting ganked by true gate camps.
Solution: Warp to 0 and jump freighters

And both are worthless because the criminal can escape by podding, since NPCs don't kill pods like players can (and most of them don't bother as they're auto-piloting or in a rush).

So the Risks vs Rewards is even bypassed.

This is why being a criminal in EvE is as much as being a baby needing a pacifier to play.

The Risks need more teeth, not more pacifiers.

And both are worthless because the criminal can escape by podding, since NPCs don't kill pods like players can (and most of them don't bother as they're auto-piloting or in a rush).

Hey, maybe the prisons could be part of WiS? You get to walk around in the prison instead of the captains quarters!

Wonder how much soap on a rope would cost in the NEX store?

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I've heard if you also cover your eyes with both hands people can't see you.

I've heard if you also cover your eyes with both hands people can't see you.