How about CCP just release WiS once it is ready, and when someone scams or annoys me, I dock at his station, leave my ship, kick down his CQ door and just punch his smug face in?
Much easier and much more satisfying.

He peed on the Dude's rug!

But that's the problem - even the obvious scam mechanics aren't necessarily obvious to the computer. Maybe somebody just doesn't have the ISK to cover the buy order (margin trading scam), was aware that he was paying too much for a ship in a trade window or was rejected from a corp after paying a recruitment fee for a good reason. Otherwise I could just send you a few million ISK, claim you scammed me by not doubling it and get an angry mob to imprison you...

That's part of the reason that the computers can't figure out what's a scam and what is not. Computers may not be smart enough to understand the difference between a scam and someone who made a mistake. In fact, as is proven, time and again, is that people always figure out how to use computers to do their dirty work for them. It's why online scams are so common in real life.

I don't believe there are "scam mechanics".

Which is why other games don't have this as game play in games. What's the petition wait time in EvE again?

HarryGǪdonGÇÖt let these forum warriors get or beat you down. I for one appreciate your unique perspective thought and ideas and content and freshness you bring to the game and forums.

This is a hell of a lot better than the no stop trolling they can only offer thread after thread.

Keep fighting the good fight.

If players want a prison system then it's up to the players to build one, and all the necessary infrastructure to support it. If Harry want to punish scammers then he has to do it using the existing mechanics, instead of asking CCP to do it for him.

I can already think of 2 obvious ways to bypass any prison in Eve, jumpclones and self destruction. We're supposedly immortal so committing suicide to bypass a prison sentence is trivial.

Maybe you don't know how scamming works....

1) Get a crappy alt
2) Spam all day
3) Some idiot falls for scam
4) Spam all day
5) Another idiot
6) Spam all day
7) another idiot
8) .... and so on and so forth
9) Biomass
10) Rinse and repeat

No undocking is nowhere in the list so no "game mechanic" is there for any "Retribution". Now the idea is putting in an actual risk for something that is well riskless.

We really need a new Troll Posts subforum.

And perhaps a UO-type mini-game in the CQ to cater for the Op.

OP - just imagine an situation which is now and then very often - ganking.

What will prevent some gank squaq to vote to jail absolutely honest and not-scamming capsuleers?

If for example some corp with 500+ people will send corpletter to all with order to vote for XYZ, just because he dont paid "protection" fee?

Where is court? Where are judges?

Anyway, I think if is there some jail for scammer really set up (by some miracle or whatewer), than there should be also some detention facility for people who let them to be scammed, some lunatic-asylum kind of camp for this mindless people...

I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first.
Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week

various features could be implemented that catching other players do not get too easy. Maybe need of special modules, having at least 5-10 people involved in the capturing process, and a special prison fee

please add your ideas, this should bring consequences to the game for liars, traitors and scammers. I feel those are needed because they are missing at the moment!

Edit: maybe they should still be able to do basic stuff like mining, lets say if they mine a certain amount for the guy who took them to prison, then they are free upfront

Edit: the prison mechanic could also be implemented by a special voting system, maybe scammed people can go together and vote, however there would need to be a mechanic to identify scammed people, so you get a voting right comparable to killrights

Horrible idea. The point is that this game is a sandbox. Players do what they enjoy doing, if that includes scamming and awoxing then that is up to them. That is what players love about EVE. How many thousand players joined the game after huge scams and thefts from in game were published on the internet? Ever wonder why that is?

You also have the issue of who would continue to pay for a game when they get stuck in a prison and can only mine. Most people don't want that and you would get a lot of unsubs.

I find it amusing that you post such a clearly ridiculous idea in GD claiming that you want feedback from a wider audience and then anyone who tries to point out its flaws and explain how it wouldn't work just gets shouted at for being unhelpful and then blocked. Ever heard of constructive criticism? In this case we are constructively telling you that this idea would never ever work and would hurt EVE.

Honestly, this would be as fruitless as a war on drugs. All you would get is overcrowded digital prisons and start a corrupt for profit prison business that would spread throughout the virtual court system, CONCORD, and our elected CSM's. All to punish people who really weren't much of a detriment to our online society.

I want a new game mechanic implemented however this may need to be discussed with a broader audience in GD first.
Its pretty simple, there should be a possibility to catch pods and bring them to an ingame Prison. Those Prisons should be Time Capsules where the catched player has to stay for some time. I would say 1 day up to 1 week

various features could be implemented that catching other players do not get too easy. Maybe need of special modules, having at least 5-10 people involved in the capturing process, and a special prison fee

please add your ideas, this should bring consequences to the game for liars, traitors and scammers. I feel those are needed because they are missing at the moment!

Edit: maybe they should still be able to do basic stuff like mining, lets say if they mine a certain amount for the guy who took them to prison, then they are free upfront

Edit: the prison mechanic could also be implemented by a special voting system, maybe scammed people can go together and vote, however there would need to be a mechanic to identify scammed people, so you get a voting right comparable to killrights

If you look at EvE itself, it is a prison to begin with. "Anything goes" behind the bars, with the guard (devs) keeping them inside.

All that is missing is lockdown (solitary confinement).

Even America's Army has Fort Levenworth in it's game, for egregious team killers.

I want your posting privileges stripped after reading this garbage. Go back to WoW or something.

I'm right, I know I'm right and anybody that tells me that I'm not right is wrong and clearly an idiot, I shall block them because they're idiots and because they're wrong.

I want your posting privileges stripped after reading this garbage. Go back to WoW or something.

Pull your head out of your arse Harry, your idea is silly, you've been told it's silly by multiple people and yet you still believe that your suggestion has merit.

I'm sure the scam tactics can be put into a mechanic

What would work better is a kind of reputation tracking system similar to the way ebay does it.

I doubt we'll ever see a player jail because it would require a court. Without due process it could become arbitrary and there would be trolls using it as a weapon, kind of like the days of "aggro fu" before it was possible to blue a wreck and before crimewatch.


What would work better is a kind of reputation tracking system similar to the way ebay does it.

We have lockdown. It's when you lose your staging system and are suddenly impoverished because of the isk you had tied up in those assets. :)

stop adding your words to my quotes, honestly, don't you have anything better to do?

silly is not an agrument, but keep trying to search for one, if there is any

I'm curious, could you make an example? As in "you could detect scam X by checking if somebody does Y and Z"?

I'm not adding words, I'm actually removing them and then distilling your meaningless drivel down into its purest form.

Something like bounties?