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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4424
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Posted - 2013.07.31 20:07:00 -
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Vladimir Gurney wrote:I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots, maybe play some betting games like pool or poker, and meet new people.
But I would rather like to be able to customize and do more with my ships, instead of play barbie with my toon. Since this is a game about...you know, Space Ships! ... and market manipulation, and intrigue, and politics, and betrayal, and corporate organization/security, and scams, and any number of other things that have little (if anything) to do with space ships.
Yes, space ships are one of our primary tools for interacting with each other and the universe, but hardly the only one. There are distinct advantages for having more. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Vladimir Gurney
Rising Force Chronos Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.31 20:43:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Vladimir Gurney wrote:I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots, maybe play some betting games like pool or poker, and meet new people.
But I would rather like to be able to customize and do more with my ships, instead of play barbie with my toon. Since this is a game about...you know, Space Ships! ... and market manipulation, and intrigue, and politics, and betrayal, and corporate organization/security, and scams, and any number of other things that have little (if anything) to do with space ships. Yes, space ships are one of our primary tools for interacting with each other and the universe, but hardly the only one. There are distinct advantages for having more.
I'm just saying we spend most of the time in spaceships (capsuleers and the players) and yet we can't even give our ships a simple paint job or put decals on them. I care more about what my ship looks like than what my guy looks like since I will be staring at my ship for 99% of the game.
To me, that is more important than walking around in stations with more character customization and emotes I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have more WiS stuff, I'm just saying it's not as important as some other stuff I would like to see. |

Norian Lonark
Black Thorne Corporation The Cursed Few
83
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:30:00 -
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Looking forward to when the stations atmosphere has finally decontaminated, must be any day now  |

SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
45
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:34:00 -
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Vladimir Gurney wrote:I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots
You mean like on the forums? |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
226
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Posted - 2013.07.31 21:53:00 -
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SmokinDank wrote:Vladimir Gurney wrote:I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots You mean like on the forums? Or chat? |

Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
598
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Posted - 2013.07.31 22:31:00 -
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Vatos Amigo wrote:How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in The space station while you can greet other characters. Try to picture it just like you see your character walking In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink. That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract New players because of the social out come of it.
I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.
What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?
The Future but for now we are focus more in space ships /dancing /lol /hug. That can be waiting. No i like the idea really but for now let just focus on the bugs and pvp/pve content  |

Vladimir Gurney
Rising Force Chronos Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.31 23:03:00 -
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Plastic Psycho wrote:SmokinDank wrote:Vladimir Gurney wrote:I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots You mean like on the forums? Or chat?
Both of which are impersonal. Talking to someone face to face seems better to me. Plus huddling around a table while a guy tells a story (that most likely he made up or has exaggerated) has more atmosphere.
And it would allow more possibilities of initiating small talk and meeting new people. I mean, sure you can do that in local chat but it's hard to do it unless you're in a system with lots of people like Jita but those places have tons of spammers filling up the chat so I mostly ignore local there. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3142
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Posted - 2013.07.31 23:16:00 -
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Vladimir Gurney wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:SmokinDank wrote:Vladimir Gurney wrote:I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots You mean like on the forums? Or chat? Both of which are impersonal. Talking to someone face to face seems better to me. Plus huddling around a table while a guy tells a story (that most likely he made up or has exaggerated) has more atmosphere.
So, go to a real bar and do that, or, go play second life if you have the overpowering need to get your "virtual" freakishness and role-playing groove on.
There's nothing "personal" about interaction when you are pretending to be someone in a pretend bar via an Avatar. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

BiscuitMonsterr
University of Caille Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.07.31 23:40:00 -
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Yes, this is exactly the sort of thing i purposed in my earlier thread about sex furniture and animated sex balls in the Captain's Passage a week or so ago. Expanding my idea into the hole station is an execrable idea that I fully endorse! Shopping malls and bars and casinos and clubs for showing off and meeting for emergent intercourse would be wonderful.
Its no secret that something like 67% of Eve players were in favor of Wandering Into Stations when it was first prompted by the dev's, and they deserve pats on the back all round and hats off to boot. But why stop there? Push the boat out, CCP! Give the people what they want! Adult mature thematic elements, gambling, storytelling environments with dance and RP animations and player houses. In many other MMOs, the importance and value of player housing is legendary. Just look at Star Wars Galaxies! I like my Tristan, but it doesnt' have mantlepiece or a romantic boudoir for thematic liasons!
Signed +3 for this one. |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
397
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Posted - 2013.07.31 23:47:00 -
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There already is a megathread about this, so I'll keep it short.
For WiS or against? Yes, I'm all for WiS social zones. No, don't think you'll have to create these unrealistic "Hey, my capsuleer goes commando and goes on some radioactive station leaving his ship behind mini-games" Sounds both unrealistic AND cheap in my ears... No, don't think it would change anything going on in space. Player-Run shops, bars, etc would be cool
Will this ever happen? Nope, don't think so. CCP can't get it done. Don't blame them. We'll be caged forever, BUT we can spin our ships till senseless.
Does the whole "space barbies" and "Second Life" talk make sense? Not when you look at other games and the original premise that EVE was thought of as a total immersion space simulation.
"Fix the space bugs & stuff" talk...
Yes, I stumble over tons of critical bugs every day. Just jumped about 90 jumps between two toons, crashed every second, but boldly re-logged every time. Erm, no. Actually didn't crash at all.
Would EVE be a better game with WiS & social aspects? Who can tell? CCP perhaps, if they would do some research in their prospective playerbase.
Conclusion: We have a great game in EVE. WiS would be great, but will never happen. Also kinda hope Star Citizen will be a success, though it won't be EVE, as the scope limits number of players online. I'll probably play both if it is any good. Also would look forward to more direct contrals then hopeful double-clicks in space, really, when we are at "space aspects". But that's just EVE. Luv it... Hate it at the same time sometimes. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x |

SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
45
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Posted - 2013.08.01 00:29:00 -
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Vladimir Gurney wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:SmokinDank wrote:Vladimir Gurney wrote:I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots You mean like on the forums? Or chat? Both of which are impersonal. Talking to someone face to face seems better to me. Plus huddling around a table while a guy tells a story (that most likely he made up or has exaggerated) has more atmosphere. And it would allow more possibilities of initiating small talk and meeting new people. I mean, sure you can do that in local chat but it's hard to do it unless you're in a system with lots of people like Jita but those places have tons of spammers filling up the chat so I mostly ignore local there.
Yeah you're starting to get into creepy territory. I'm personally not into this idea. |

Kara Corvinus
Empyrean Acolytes
71
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Posted - 2013.08.01 01:06:00 -
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I pay for internet spaceships. You pay for internet space ships.
We get get internet spaceships.
but instead you want a players sitting in a "virtual bar".
The only WIS they should implement is the chance for us to invite dust 514 players into our quarters so we can show them fancy space ships & laugh at their tiny tanks. |

Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services Russian International Allegiance
203
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Posted - 2013.08.01 01:06:00 -
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make WiS low-sec only. give us the customizable bars we were promised.
also I support /dance emotes, if each culture gets their own flavour.
MAKE IT SO. Join the in-game channel 'The Greater Fool Bar' now.
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Vladimir Gurney
Rising Force Chronos Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.08.01 04:57:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Vladimir Gurney wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:SmokinDank wrote:Vladimir Gurney wrote:I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots You mean like on the forums? Or chat? Both of which are impersonal. Talking to someone face to face seems better to me. Plus huddling around a table while a guy tells a story (that most likely he made up or has exaggerated) has more atmosphere. So, go to a real bar and do that, or, go play second life if you have the overpowering need to get your "virtual" freakishness and role-playing groove on. There's nothing "personal" about interaction when you are pretending to be someone in a pretend bar via an Avatar.
This is an MMORPG. RPG as in a Role Playing Game. Even though I said nothing about Role playing, just making new friends in the game. Unless of course you people don't like making friends.
And yeah sure I'll go to a bar irl and talk about flying spaceships. I'm sure that'll work out just fine. |

Vladimir Gurney
Rising Force Chronos Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.08.01 05:02:00 -
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SmokinDank wrote:Vladimir Gurney wrote:Plastic Psycho wrote:SmokinDank wrote:Vladimir Gurney wrote:I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots You mean like on the forums? Or chat? Both of which are impersonal. Talking to someone face to face seems better to me. Plus huddling around a table while a guy tells a story (that most likely he made up or has exaggerated) has more atmosphere. And it would allow more possibilities of initiating small talk and meeting new people. I mean, sure you can do that in local chat but it's hard to do it unless you're in a system with lots of people like Jita but those places have tons of spammers filling up the chat so I mostly ignore local there. Yeah you're starting to get into creepy territory. I'm personally not into this idea.
You're telling me you don't say "hi" to people in Local? I actually got into some pretty interesting conversations with some people in Dodixie while sitting in the station.
And I do not understand how I'm getting into creepy territory, unless you find sitting at a table with other people or talking to random people "creepy". |

bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
68
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Posted - 2013.08.01 06:01:00 -
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Vatos Amigo wrote:How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship...
I'll go for that if I can spin them around! |

Marcus Harikari
Guitar Players of EVE
171
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Posted - 2013.08.01 06:29:00 -
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more social elements could definitely be nice in this game. WiS, easier corp creation/hiring, etc. it would not distract from nullsec in any way, CCP is going to throw money away on other things regardless, whether it be DUST or WoD or WiS. Might as well make something that will attract more people to EVE, to keep it going and being the primary focus of CCP. |

Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
76683
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Posted - 2013.08.01 07:13:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Alice Saki wrote:Forget Krix, Hes an Arse.
WiS FOREVER!  You know I really love it ! Right now it is mostly just a tease of what it could be. Id tell you two to get a room, but unfortunately there is only one person allowed to a room at the moment in game. Unless Alice is a hooker. Hookers aren't people, so you may be able to skirt the system with that technicality. Gee Alice. What do you think ??? Shall we ? 
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Iraxion Agnon
Immortal Nomads
2
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Posted - 2013.08.01 07:49:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:You know what would be great? A mechanic that allows you to murder and steal from other capsuleers in stations.
Grand Theft EVE. Just saying.  |

Bill Lane
Military Gamers Department of Gaming
38
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Posted - 2013.08.01 07:57:00 -
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Marcus Harikari wrote:more social elements could definitely be nice in this game. WiS, easier corp creation/hiring, etc. it would not distract from nullsec in any way, CCP is going to throw money away on other things regardless, whether it be DUST or WoD or WiS. Might as well make something that will attract more people to EVE, to keep it going and being the primary focus of CCP.
Bingo. It would attract a lot of new subscriptions. Some current Eve players would switch to hanging in station more, but some of the people who subscribe for the WiS aspect would also probably venture into space from time to time, perhaps even learning they enjoy out of station activities more.
You can't get everybody to like every idea. There will always be bugs. People have been saying "let's focus on fixing PVP/PVE/Mining gameplay and bugs" for years now. Where's the stopping point? There isn't one. Get WiS done CCP, focus there instead of WoD or any unknown ventures you may be planning that aren't related to Eve/Dust...  http://www.militarygamers.com/ |

Mark Androcius
159
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Posted - 2013.08.01 11:28:00 -
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Vatos Amigo wrote:How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in The space station while you can greet other characters. Try to picture it just like you see your character walking In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink. That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract New players because of the social out come of it.
I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.
What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?
Agreed, but i should also have the opportunity to steal your shiny ship from right under your nose. I just walk to your hangar and jump in, undock it and fly away. If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
398
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Posted - 2013.08.01 11:43:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:Vatos Amigo wrote:How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in The space station while you can greet other characters. Try to picture it just like you see your character walking In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink. That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract New players because of the social out come of it.
I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.
What do you think and what are your thoughts on that? Agreed, but i should also have the opportunity to steal your shiny ship from right under your nose. I just walk to your hangar and jump in, undock it and fly away.
You and your hundred crew jump into my ship and fly it away? ;)
I don't think all the murder/thievery ideas are that good. Perhaps a fist fight in a bar, if needed.
But, face it: Capsuleers are pilots and I really cringe every time I hear that people describe their pod-dweller as super-ninja-assassin elite-swordsman sharpshooters. ;-)
Actually it would be nice to have shared social zones with DUSTies, who are really super-ninja-assassin elite swordsman sharpshooters and would wipe the floor with your usual pod-dweller. (Until they undock again, which is when we should be able to turn their Ark ships into sparkling stardust...)
Ah, dreams. *sigh* Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4429
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Posted - 2013.08.01 14:15:00 -
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Vladimir Gurney wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Vladimir Gurney wrote:I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots, maybe play some betting games like pool or poker, and meet new people.
But I would rather like to be able to customize and do more with my ships, instead of play barbie with my toon. Since this is a game about...you know, Space Ships! ... and market manipulation, and intrigue, and politics, and betrayal, and corporate organization/security, and scams, and any number of other things that have little (if anything) to do with space ships. Yes, space ships are one of our primary tools for interacting with each other and the universe, but hardly the only one. There are distinct advantages for having more. I'm just saying we spend most of the time in spaceships (capsuleers and the players) and yet we can't even give our ships a simple paint job or put decals on them. I care more about what my ship looks like than what my guy looks like since I will be staring at my ship for 99% of the game. To me, that is more important than walking around in stations with more character customization and emotes  I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have more WiS stuff, I'm just saying it's not as important as some other stuff I would like to see. And that's fair enough.
I was just pointing out that many people that are major, long time EVE players never leave the station yet play every day.
I'm a big fan of ship paint jobs myself, but I also see the value in expanding the types of game play available. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Celeste Halo
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.08.02 05:22:00 -
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5 years ago, Torfi made a presentation showing "ambulation". He walked around a station, showed "slots" that could be rented for commerce, corporation meeting rooms where a corp could hire a bot to handle greetings etc. He showed us a bar that had dancers and such as well as 3d minigames with holographic avatars sort of like battle chess. CCP removed all these videos form the website/youtube channel. This is the only one I can find and it is poor quality and does not show all the things Torfri showed.
I think this is more or less what you are typing about... previewed 5 years ago...
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/47959 |

Don Purple
Snuggle Factory
31
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Posted - 2013.08.02 06:29:00 -
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I will not lie... I would enjoy a bar to sit of with a **** eating grin on my face as I wait for my criminal timer to expire. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
1507
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Posted - 2013.08.02 07:00:00 -
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Well, it *would* be cool, but it *would not* be EVE.
Avatar content does not belong in EVE. Actually, anything that it's not already in the game does not belong to it. And probably some things already in the game, don't belong to it neither -but CCP didn't noticed yet.
EVE is EVE which is EVE. You know EVE, it's been 10 years to date and it won't be changing, just will optimize until CCP gets another source of revenue -probably WoD.
So, no avatars in EVE. Avatars used to be the future, but the future is now (2 years since Summer of rage) and what you see now is the same as the future will be.
WiS = Waiting is Stupid. And some days, I'm not even bitter about it... CCP Unifex: -á"lurking single players (...)-áare the majority of characters on Tranquility"
...And so now we know why CCP hasn't done anything for soloers since Apochrypha. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3957
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Posted - 2013.08.02 07:31:00 -
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Celeste Halo wrote:5 years ago, Torfi made a presentation showing "ambulation". He walked around a station, showed "slots" that could be rented for commerce, corporation meeting rooms where a corp could hire a bot to handle greetings etc. He showed us a bar that had dancers and such as well as 3d minigames with holographic avatars sort of like battle chess. CCP removed all these videos form the website/youtube channel. This is the only one I can find and it is poor quality and does not show all the things Torfri showed. I think this is more or less what you are typing about... previewed 5 years ago... http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/47959 Heh, they removed them eh. Clever move. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
413
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:09:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Celeste Halo wrote:5 years ago, Torfi made a presentation showing "ambulation". He walked around a station, showed "slots" that could be rented for commerce, corporation meeting rooms where a corp could hire a bot to handle greetings etc. He showed us a bar that had dancers and such as well as 3d minigames with holographic avatars sort of like battle chess. CCP removed all these videos form the website/youtube channel. This is the only one I can find and it is poor quality and does not show all the things Torfri showed. I think this is more or less what you are typing about... previewed 5 years ago... http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/47959 Heh, they removed them eh. Clever move.
Well, once something hits the Internet, you can try to hide it as much as you want later on. Someone else kept it save for you. This is just one article about their ambitious ambulation: (describes all features they promised back then...) http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/eve-online-walking-in-stations-hands-on?page=2
One early vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzy7DG8VR2s
And so on. I remember one site showed the completed pub, too. Of course then they forgot about it for a while to start from scratch.
The Eurogamer article mentioned:
Quote:The initial costumes created by artists "were very gamey - although they were cool, we felt that you wouldn't see this in a science-fiction film". Out they went, replaced by a costume designers' work that could actually be made in fabric, accurate down to the stitching. Similarly, the environment designs created by "level artists from popular FPS games" were scrapped for the work of architects and industrial designers, since stations wouldn't be used for combat, but shopping and social interaction
I wonder whom CCP hired for the CQs... Expert bird trap designers? Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE Playlist on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSNuHY7z8n1q1BdLvW2verIfH8vvWtz_x |

Welsige
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:38:00 -
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Vatos Amigo wrote:How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in The space station while you can greet other characters. Try to picture it just like you see your character walking In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink. That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract New players because of the social out come of it.
I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.
What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?
Will I be able to shoot people(avatars)?
I would not mind "ambulation", as long as it was meaningful for the game / Dust514 connection and did not draw too much from the core bussiness of blowing ships up.
I thing carbon is an awesome thing, I love the characters we can have now, EVE charactrer creator spoiled all other RPG`s for me. Theres no clones in EVE as in people looking exactly as the other, wich I consider a BIG THING. ~ 10.058 ~
Free The Mittani |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3249
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Posted - 2013.08.02 18:00:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:You know what would be great? A mechanic that allows you to murder and steal from other capsuleers in stations.
I wonder if CCP Yoloswag or CCP Pennypacker or whatever they are going to call that dude from EA knows that even I would purchase weapons in the NeX store if we could use them on each other? |
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