How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita
And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship
In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in
The space station while you can greet other characters.
Try to picture it just like you see your character walking
In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other
Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping
For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk
In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink.
That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract
New players because of the social out come of it.

I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen
More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.

What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?

second life?

Poasting in a stealth "Giev WIS naow!!!!" thread.

No comprend+¬

second life?

More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.

...if you took your ship to amarr, jita...

...And dock up...

...see tons of ship In the dock bay of other characters...

...while you can greet other characters...

...but in a huge stations....

...other Players walking around....

...Like a huge mall...

That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract
New players because of the social out come of it.

I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen
More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.

What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?

imagine if eve was like this

How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita
And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship
In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in
The space station while you can greet other characters.
Try to picture it just like you see your character walking
In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other
Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping
For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk
In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink.
That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract
New players because of the social out come of it.

I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen
More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.

What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?

You know what would be great? A mechanic that allows you to murder and steal from other capsuleers in stations.

Yeah, when i think EVE, i think of clothes shopping, and /dance emotes.

No mention of furries and bondage.

How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita

Forget Krix, Hes an Arse.

WiS FOREVER!

What would be better is permadeath because they got ganked outside their pod.

And stealing their shoes.

You know I really love it ! Right now it is mostly just a tease of what it could be.

Id tell you two to get a room, but unfortunately there is only one person allowed to a room at the moment in game.

Unless Alice is a hooker. Hookers aren't people, so you may be able to skirt the system with that technicality.

I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots, maybe play some betting games like pool or poker, and meet new people.

But I would rather like to be able to customize and do more with my ships, instead of play barbie with my toon. Since this is a game about...you know, Space Ships!

... and market manipulation, and intrigue, and politics, and betrayal, and corporate organization/security, and scams, and any number of other things that have little (if anything) to do with space ships.

Yes, space ships are one of our primary tools for interacting with each other and the universe, but hardly the only one. There are distinct advantages for having more.

I would like a bar where you can sit down and share stories with other pilots

You mean like on the forums?

How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita
And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship
In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in
The space station while you can greet other characters.
Try to picture it just like you see your character walking
In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other
Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping
For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk
In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink.
That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract
New players because of the social out come of it.

I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen
More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.

What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?

Or chat?

Both of which are impersonal. Talking to someone face to face seems better to me. Plus huddling around a table while a guy tells a story (that most likely he made up or has exaggerated) has more atmosphere.

Both of which are impersonal. Talking to someone face to face seems better to me. Plus huddling around a table while a guy tells a story (that most likely he made up or has exaggerated) has more atmosphere.

And it would allow more possibilities of initiating small talk and meeting new people. I mean, sure you can do that in local chat but it's hard to do it unless you're in a system with lots of people like Jita but those places have tons of spammers filling up the chat so I mostly ignore local there.

So, go to a real bar and do that, or, go play second life if you have the overpowering need to get your "virtual" freakishness and role-playing groove on.

There's nothing "personal" about interaction when you are pretending to be someone in a pretend bar via an Avatar.

Yeah you're starting to get into creepy territory. I'm personally not into this idea.

How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita
And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship...

Gee Alice. What do you think ??? Shall we ?

You know what would be great? A mechanic that allows you to murder and steal from other capsuleers in stations.

more social elements could definitely be nice in this game. WiS, easier corp creation/hiring, etc. it would not distract from nullsec in any way, CCP is going to throw money away on other things regardless, whether it be DUST or WoD or WiS. Might as well make something that will attract more people to EVE, to keep it going and being the primary focus of CCP.

How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita
And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship
In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in
The space station while you can greet other characters.
Try to picture it just like you see your character walking
In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other
Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping
For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk
In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink.
That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract
New players because of the social out come of it.

I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen
More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.

What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?

Agreed, but i should also have the opportunity to steal your shiny ship from right under your nose.
I just walk to your hangar and jump in, undock it and fly away.

I'm just saying we spend most of the time in spaceships (capsuleers and the players) and yet we can't even give our ships a simple paint job or put decals on them. I care more about what my ship looks like than what my guy looks like since I will be staring at my ship for 99% of the game.

To me, that is more important than walking around in stations with more character customization and emotes I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have more WiS stuff, I'm just saying it's not as important as some other stuff I would like to see.

5 years ago, Torfi made a presentation showing "ambulation". He walked around a station, showed "slots" that could be rented for commerce, corporation meeting rooms where a corp could hire a bot to handle greetings etc. He showed us a bar that had dancers and such as well as 3d minigames with holographic avatars sort of like battle chess. CCP removed all these videos form the website/youtube channel. This is the only one I can find and it is poor quality and does not show all the things Torfri showed.

I think this is more or less what you are typing about... previewed 5 years ago...

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/47959

Heh, they removed them eh. Clever move.

The initial costumes created by artists "were very gamey - although they were cool, we felt that you wouldn't see this in a science-fiction film". Out they went, replaced by a costume designers' work that could actually be made in fabric, accurate down to the stitching. Similarly, the environment designs created by "level artists from popular FPS games" were scrapped for the work of architects and industrial designers, since stations wouldn't be used for combat, but shopping and social interaction

How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita
And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship
In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in
The space station while you can greet other characters.
Try to picture it just like you see your character walking
In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other
Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping
For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk
In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink.
That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract
New players because of the social out come of it.

I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen
More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.

What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?

You know what would be great? A mechanic that allows you to murder and steal from other capsuleers in stations.

No mention of furries and bondage.

Will I be able to shoot people(avatars)?

I would not mind "ambulation", as long as it was meaningful for the game / Dust514 connection

... and did not draw too much from the core bussiness of blowing ships up.

I thing carbon is an awesome thing, I love the characters we can have now, EVE charactrer creator spoiled all other RPG`s for me. Theres no clones in EVE as in people looking exactly as the other, wich I consider a BIG THING.

We need to be able to rent out bar space and display corpses in huge clear tubes.


Because I ******* say so.

These fairly standardised digs will allow some limited customisation - sofas, tables, pictures on the wall, "frozen corpse display cabinets" - but they're mostly there as a default showcase for your avatar, and somewhere any player can immediately call home.

You'll be able to rent a "socket", buy a bar blueprint and insert it. Set your own restrictions on the clientele, hire NPCs to populate the bar (including dancers), even craft dialogue rules for them to create your own little quasi-missions and adventure storylines. Then sit back and watch the beer money roll in. Maybe.

I pay for internet spaceships.
You pay for internet space ships.

... aaaand this is were most people got struck - because here's the fault: this is not true.

I don't play EVE for internet spaceships. i play EVE because it's a complex game with a set of social features never seen in any other game, the sandobox, a complex and pretty realistic market etc...

I play EVE because everyone who's not blue is usually red, because if you get distracted you die.

I play EVE for things like spies, betrayals, politics, turn of power. I really enjoyed logging in and find PL literally invaded my 'home' system for the war in Fountain. I enjoyed reading and watching the war, the propaganda, and the turns of events.

I play EVE because seems like PL won the AT XI over INTEL.

because THIS is EVE. THIS is why it's still growing after 10 years, because of the community and interaction between players.


don't be fooled - I love internet spaceships. but they are mostly used as a gauge for power and possibility in EVE. hell, i would play EVE even if it was about internet giant rabbits as long as the feeling of the sandbox, market, power and politics was the same.


you don't have to undock to play EVE sometimes - tbh, if i learned one thing in these years, you don't even have to play EVE to be playing EVE. clicking on a propaganda video on youtube? you are playing the game.






there's lots of people / characters who don't even undock or they do it only from time to time... would be nice to improve the system for them too... imho more social tools will just improve the game

Yeah, when i think EVE, i think of clothes shopping, and /dance emotes.

second life?

How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita
And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship
In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in
The space station while you can greet other characters.
Try to picture it just like you see your character walking
In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other
Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping
For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk
In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink.
That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract
New players because of the social out come of it.

I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen
More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.

What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?

What would be better is permadeath because they got ganked outside their pod.

And stealing their shoes.

Agreed, but i should also have the opportunity to steal your shiny ship from right under your nose.
I just walk to your hangar and jump in, undock it and fly away.

How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita
And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship AND STEAL THEM

How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita
And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship
In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in
The space station while you can greet other characters.
Try to picture it just like you see your character walking
In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other
Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping
For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk
In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink.
That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract
New players because of the social out come of it.

I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen
More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.

What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?

Put wheels on your pod, i.e. an indoor motorized transport. Duh.

Also, why would anyone need to get out of their pod? You have implants directly in your brain, so you can basically experience any feeling or emotion that you want via direct brain stimulation or have synthetic hormones released into your body via the life support system. VR + brain implants + IVs means never having to interact in the flesh with another human being ever again!

Mahahahahahahahaha..... errr... no, I'm not affiliated with Sansha, why do you ask?

sure it would be great, but some monkeys here are afraid of human avatars as well as social interaction... we first have to teach them how to walk and talk, it is a hard process but we will get there!

Avatars have absolutely nothing to do with social interaction, which will be done via text chat even with avatars.

Tbh avatars are for guys who lack imagination, and are incapable of immersion without them.

Avatars have absolutely nothing to do with social interaction, which will be done via text chat even with avatars.

Tbh avatars are for guys who lack imagination, and are incapable of immersion without them.

I pay for internet spaceships.
You pay for internet space ships.

We get get internet spaceships.

but instead you want a players sitting in a "virtual bar".


The only WIS they should implement is the chance for us to invite dust 514 players into our quarters so we can show them fancy space ships & laugh at their tiny tanks.

Avatars have absolutely nothing to do with social interaction, which will be done via text chat even with avatars.

Tbh avatars are for guys who lack imagination, and are incapable of immersion without them.

Avatars have absolutely nothing to do with social interaction, which will be done via text chat even with avatars.

Tbh avatars are for guys who lack imagination, and are incapable of immersion without them.

Well, I think the original plan was for EVE Voice to sync with your Avatar. You talk, it's mouth moves... that sort of thing.

Because the plethora of Avatar based RPGs are for people without imagination. Just confirming that games like Neverwinter Nights (where people created/modded/scripted entire worlds and server with custom lores and completely new story lines with massive player-bases of role-players) are for people who lack imagination. These are the people who spend their time writing mini-novels and writing detailed back stories for their characters. Just to confirm, these people lack imagination.

Sarcasm aside, you could say the same for people who want any new Spaceship content. Just imagine the spaceships are balanced right? You don't need CCP to do any of it.

Also, I find books more immersive than for example Skyrim at ultra gfx and tons of tweaks- fleshing out the fantasy world in detail does not compare to the vivid experiences created by one's imagination.

Ok this would be cool, but what about all the guys playing female characters :D

Not sure if anyone else agrees with me or not
But I would like if CCP can give us answer to this.

Well I guess they need to use one of those voice altering utilities (I have one but never use it).

... either that or rename all of their female characters to variations of "Dr. Girlfriend" (got one of those too).

They have already answered you. The CCP CEO actually apologized for what a terrible idea WiS was and promised to focus on actual Eve content. For the last two years they have done that and the game has done very well.

Real Eve players don't want gross roleplayers infesting our game.

Check your facts. CCP, since then, have repeatedly said they have all intentions of eventually implementing WiS.

Every post you've made so far makes you looked stupider than you were before.

Oh look I've upset the furries.

You have no killboard stats carebear. Your more of a furry that I ever will be.

...oddly, they are 90% supported.

lol owned. umad bro?

You have no killboard stats carebear. Your more of a furry that I ever will be.

I bet if you knew the difference between Your and You're people wouldn't ignore your ideas.

Correcting me on grammar doesn't improve your lack of an argument.

This must be embarrassing for you. Try harder or just go away.

The argument has been over for two years now. WiS is dead.

All that's left is pubbie rage and disappointment.

WiS is "shelved", not, and I re-iterate, not, completely and utterly abandoned... the overall consensus is that we, as devs want WiS to be out there and blowing all your minds right now.
Some things take priority though, and some things take time

Dead is it? Yea, all right. You obviously know best.

Dead is it? Yea, all right. You obviously know best.

As in all things actions speak louder than words. It's been a long, long time since anything was added to WiS.

CCP knows who pays their bills (hint, it's not furries and roleplayers).

The single largest majority in EVE are solo hiseccers.

And when I look back at what CCP has been doing for us in the past 5 years, "underwhelming" comes to mind.

How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita
And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship
In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in
The space station while you can greet other characters.
Try to picture it just like you see your character walking
In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other
Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping
For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk
In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink.
That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract
New players because of the social out come of it.

I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen
More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.

What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?

When pubbies running missions in high sec space get a story written about them by the BBC maybe somebody will care. The fact is that nullsec is where all this game's publicity comes from.

Mission runners, no.. for obvious reason. But highsec pubbies have hit BBC news before. A few times if I remember correctly. In fact most of the BBC news articles that are about Eve, are about economics. Where do you think most of the trade occurs?

I see you didn't read the post I was referring to. You seem to get really worked up when you see my posts...try and take a deep breath and then make your points.

No, I read it. I think it's you who's misunderstood.

I don't think you even know what you're arguing any longer. Let me break it down for you...

People play this game for space content. Massive battles with over 4,000 people bring more attention (and then subscriptions) to the game than the ridiculous dreams of furries and roleplayers who want to be able to have dance parties and fashion shows in their CQs.

The stupid; it hurts.

Thanks for that well-reasoned retort.

... The fact is that nullsec is where all this game's publicity comes from.

WiS has resulted in untold damage and massive subscription loss to the game couple years ago. And yes, if WiS was fully developed, why undock at all, it'll just be a Second Life clone.

So far, reasoning with you has been a futile effort, as far as I can tell.

WIS didn't cause the damage, the possibility of EVE turning into a pay to win game through micro-transactions for ammo and ships (NEX store) coupled with a loss of trust in CCP was. (1000$ dollar designer jeans leak and miscommunications on what the NEX store would be).

The reason you're frustrated is that you are completely wrong but continue to argue your points as if you're not. Try not being so wrong and you won't suffer from that sinking futility.

When pubbies running missions in high sec space get a story written about them by the BBC maybe somebody will care. The fact is that nullsec is where all this game's publicity comes from.

The hilariously bad microtransactions were definitely a disaster but the bigger problem was the years of dev time wasted on WiS content which could have been put to use fixing glaring problems with Eve's core gameplay. We can see now, two years after Incarna, that by focusing on real Eve content CCP can continue growing their game. I would hate to see them turn around that positive growth now by lapsing back into catering to roleplayers.

WiS has resulted in untold damage and massive subscription loss to the game couple years ago. And yes, if WiS was fully developed, why undock at all, it'll just be a Second Life clone.

The major point of an MMO is to foster human interaction in a setting where they can work together or against each other and have fun. Fostering that human interaction is where WiS should go in the first place. The fact is why does walking in stations have to affect in space content directly? It really doesn't, especially in its first iterations. If you don't need this, then don't do it. It isn't all about what you like, its also about what everyone else will like too, and continuing to polish EvE forever without actually adding new and different content will only make the game die.

Stations should be separate place were people can interact with each other, buy things, sell things, under the table deals, chat, interact, and relax. Be a business man, open a casino, bar, or corporate recruiting office. There are so many possibilities. Have a little imagination.

This is not completely wrong. Personally I got into eve after reading about the GHSC (Guiding Hand Social Club) infiltration and Heist. That wasn't a nullsec thing iirc.

But let's look at that from another perspective:

- as time goes by and technology becomes better and cheaper, other companies will catch up in terms of MASSIVELY multiplayer online games. We see this happen with Planetside 2 running circles around DUST514.
So, how long will the huge battles argument pull new players ?

New players also face the feeling that (even though unjustified) they can't compete with other players in EVE. Their arguments would be:
- EVE has been around for 10 years, how will I ever catch up ?
- Thousands of players in one alliance ... my corp will never be able to compete with that.
For CCP to be able to say: "Hey we added a whole new layer to the game that is not restricted to huge alliances" would make EVE a little bit more inviting. Similar to what faction warfare or wormholes did.

New MMOs and Space MMOs / Space games are cropping up left and right and borrowing ideas from some of the best games, including EVE. We may know that EVE is better in many ways. Do new players know that ? Just take a look at two things:

What features those new games either have or advertise, and also what new players complain about in the new players Q&A or in GD.
- X rebirth and Star Citizen both have stations you can walk through.
- Both games have a 3D cockpit and game-pad steering (Not that I would want that, but it's a regular complaint seen on the forum.)
- Seamless space to planet flight as featured in Evochron mercenaries, Elite: final frontier .... EVE once had an atmospheric flight demo to showcase (got shelved)

Yeah, EVE still beats those games ... but for how long, if we stall development. Don't get me wrong, I want to see modular POS and "fixing nullsec". I want "fixing low-sec" even more than that, but one day we'll have WIS.

FPS games evolved from the likes of Operation Wolf to become broader in scope as demonstrated by Battlefield 4.

In the past developers created tank sims, infantry combat, jet combat, helicopter combat and submarine games individually. Sometimes they even used the same engine for all of this (Novalogic's Comanche, Armored Fist, F-22 Raptor, Delta Force). Battlefield1942 was among the first to combine such games into one solid experience.

EVE set out to create a seamless dark universe. Old players remember the "drawing board" section on the EVE homepage. We're keeping CCP to that promise for the benefit of both old and new players. We're not uncompromising like the Jita protesters. We do have patience, but we also want to make it clear what we stand for.

People who think EVE should be limited to what it is now, just with 3X, 5X, 10X as many ships to choose from are putting quantity over quality more than the ones who stand for a WIS someday in the future.

The news on the self-importance of nullsec usually are overstated and over-reported by nullsec.

6V battle actually was like: 0.8% of the players, less than 10% the concurrent server population any given day, gather and do Sumzin Big and hereby demonstrate that the game is totally completely about them and nobody else... in their opinion.

Yet none of them would have any game to play without all the players who pay the bills, all those who play alone in hisec and are treated like misfits by CCP.

[quote=Ishtanchuk Fazmarai

So CCP is following the path of least resistance - offer hope that one day avatar gaming might be here, but doing nothing more than that - offering hope.

Just my thoughts, again, on the matter.

Let me see... connect to EVE to go to the Mall buy clothes and see other people, buying clothes and, who knows, maybe even having a drink in the little shops watching the ships undocking from the station...


AAAARRRGGHH.... WHAT A NIGHTMARE....

But I've already invested too much. I keep telling myself I'll quit if I don't like what they say is going to be in the Winter expansion, but I probably wont. CCP have me trapped.

(...)

CCP knows that offering a few bread crumbs of potential avatar game play will keep the hardcore walking in stations crowd here, paying their monthly or yearly fee. Really, how many of you - I'm look at you Ishtanchuk - have claimed boldly and loudly that if CCP does not add avatar gaming, then you and your subscriptions are gone? A glimmer of hope, some small fan fest video, and then, "Sorry, priorities changed here at CCP - we might get around to it again "soon"." And all the doom and gloom that without avatar gaming, then Eve is dead arises once more. That is a kicker for me - there is no other ~potential~ ideas that could possibly keep Eve going forward and stronger than _just_ avatar gaming? No avatar equates to no future, yet here is the game looking ahead to another decade with avatar gaming on some distant back burner.

Rather than develop in other directions and let players make up new ways to play

I hate to say it, but your probably right. I've been playing for nearing five years now, and I am starting to get bored. Not because of a lack of Avatar content (let's face it, Eve kept me interested for at least 4 years before I started getting bored), but just because every expansion since Crucible has been a little disappointing. Not massively disappointing, just not quite as good as the one before. Each one has expanded on an area of the game that is really only for a small number of people. Inferno was the whole faction warfare thing, which is great but I had already participated in faction warfare and had no intention of going back to try it again. Retribution was a bit of an exception because I loved the bounties thing, just because It could make me a small amount of my ISK back from PvP, but Odyssey was horrendous. A boring bunch of tweaks that didn't really affect me in the slightest, and I've never really enjoyed exploration and the new crap mechanic didn't change that.(...).

The players already decided. After incarna there was a massive drop in subs but since CCP wisely decided to refocus on real Eve content subs have gone up every quarter. This is a good thing and I have to wonder about people who want to harm the game by returning to the summer of rage days.

I'm paying 9.16 euros per month to play EVE, rather than 13-some as I used to do. And that's exactly why I am here, running missions after two years without doing it.

I tried Startrek online once. You could walk in stations, land on the ground etc.

Most of the time I was like: cant i stay in my ship to buy that quad-cannon? I'm in a hurry you know? People to kill, ISK to make... wait

The players already decided. After incarna there was a massive drop in subs but since CCP wisely decided to refocus on real Eve content subs have gone up every quarter. This is a good thing and I have to wonder about people who want to harm the game by returning to the summer of rage days.

If all the people who wanted WiS eventually implemented cancelled their accounts Eve would die instantly. So that's not going to happen because most people actually care about the future of Eve.

As for you proving your right, the population increase over two expansions proves nothing. The Eve playerbase has grown every year like clockwork. After Incarna, the population was still higher than the previous year. They had to make cuts on jobs because they didn't meet their predictions, as a result of Incarna being a terrible expansion. The biggest population increase Eve has seen was after Crucible, the expansion that implemented the three remaining captains quarters. The second biggest rise in player subs followed retribution, where they had a really really good advertising campaign. No one know what happened after Odyssey because they haven't said, so your speaking out of your ass.

Check your facts. Every post you've made so far makes you looked stupider than you were before.

Again? Now here? Omg. Go away.

Wow, watch out people, this one has a debating skill comparative to jujumagumboo. Careful with your thinking there, you might blow a blood vessel with reasoning like that. Maybe you should have a lie down before you over exert yourself.

Yeah, when i think EVE, i think of clothes shopping, and /dance emotes.

DUST coming to PC is the key

What is your fursona?

catering to roleplayers.

Undock. Blow **** up.

This is EVE, not Barbie.

Undock. Blow **** up.

This is EVE, not Barbie.

Undock. Blow **** up.

This is EVE, not Barbie.

What is your fursona?

The Goons are just trolls, always whining when CCP doesn't look at them. They just want attention. They don't want real additions to the game because they don't want to adapt their gameplay. So they ***** and complain about the game changing for the better, so they can stay atop the mountain of stupid **** they built. This is, until the game dissolves around them and eventually they are forgotten as losers who did something in an old forgotten MMO. Then I will laugh, and hope the majority of them kill themselves.

For now, I just hope we get EvE in stations, and disregard all the whiners who moan about "barbies in space". Goons certainly live up to their namesake, most of them are just about as foolish as one would expect a goon to be.

The Goons are just trolls, always whining when CCP doesn't look at them. They just want attention. They don't want real additions to the game because they don't want to adapt their gameplay. So they ***** and complain about the game changing for the better, so they can stay atop the mountain of stupid **** they built. This is, until the game dissolves around them and eventually they are forgotten as losers who did something in an old forgotten MMO. Then I will laugh, and hope the majority of them kill themselves.

For now, I just hope we get EvE in stations, and disregard all the whiners who moan about "barbies in space". Goons certainly live up to their namesake, most of them are just about as foolish as one would expect a goon to be.

I really like your pretty shirt.

How cool would it be if you took your ship to amarr, jita
And dock up walk out of your ship and see tons of ship
In the dock bay of other characters ship and walking in
The space station while you can greet other characters.
Try to picture it just like you see your character walking
In the hanger but in a huge stations where you see shops and other
Players walking around. Like a huge mall where you can go shopping
For clothes ship modifications, luxury ships for style or even walk
In to meet your friends in a bar station and have a drink.
That to me would be phenomenal game experience in eve and attract
New players because of the social out come of it.

I know that will never happen but I think if it were to happen
More ppl would get highly addicted to eve online.

What do you think and what are your thoughts on that?

I really like your pretty shirt.

Its great when someone quotes your post and then says something that validates your entire argument. Thanks for the help bro.

DUST is going to die before it ever gets to the PC.

It just fits so perfectly. Excellent fashion choice.

Seriously, I don't believe that you managed to colour-coordinate your lipstick with your hair like that just by clicking "random". That frowny pout expression must have taken some time to perfect, too.

Fact is, people's avatars ARE important to them. It's literally the first thing you do when you create your account, after all.

So let's give all this mockery a rest, shall we?

Whatever you say Commander Riker.

keeping the topic on the first page.

No more feeding trolls.

Has anyone seen the huge document in the Features & Ideas section that goes over what would be amazing for PI? Something like that should be done for Avatar gameplay. Something that can be passed around, and polished so CCP can actually see there is some real support, and gameplay beyond what they had envisioned.

No more feeding trolls.

Has anyone seen the huge document in the Features & Ideas section that goes over what would be amazing for PI? Something like that should be done for Avatar gameplay. Something that can be passed around, and polished so CCP can actually see there is some real support, and gameplay beyond what they had envisioned.