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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 19/12/2005 14:50:07 I'd just like to say thanks to ccp for improving the raven as a gatecamp tool. I like to fly a raven that can lock fast, tackle, then hit fast... this usually leaves tank very weak for sentrys but allows you to scramble incoming ships from other system.
This was my cold war setup for solo hunting. It gave about 1min 30secs shield tank under heavy sentry fire.
High: 6 * T2 Cruise, 1 * E500 NOS Mid: 2 Sensor Booster II, 20km Scram, Shield booster amp, Therm Hardener II, 1 XL Booster II Low: 3 Stabs, 2 Muon Coil BCU
Now post RMR
High: 6 * T2 Cruise, 1 * E500 NOS Mid: 2 Sensor Booster II, 20km Scram, 2 Invun Field II, 1 XL Booster II Low: 2 Stabs, 1 Damage Control, 2 Muon Coil BCU
This tank now lasts about 3mins (with a little gang assist), with the same tackle and dmg power.
Pretty impressive change... the RMR Raven is a transformed ship. Please don't post that this setup is no good, it's a pirating setup and is tailored exactly to meet those requirements. 
The only downside is you can no longer spit out 9-10 light drones to draw the sentry fire as before...and can only carry 15 of them 
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2005.12.19 14:50:00 -
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raven and cruise?? are you mad??
LOL
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 19/12/2005 14:55:54
Originally by: Lord Aradon raven and cruise?? are you mad??
LOL
You can't gate camp with torps unless you plan on only hitting bs.. this ship will single volley a hauler even if going to warp with stabs and still have the gank to take down 75% of BS in less time than it takes them to slowboat to gate.
It's tried and tested, there is no better gate camping setup IMHO 
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.12.19 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Aradon raven and cruise?? are you mad??
LOL
well he is "sniping" at gates, what sort of travel time do your missiles get? if you are being shot at by sentrys anyway you may as well switch to torps no? suppose it depends what you are fighting i'm guessing not BS since they would probibly pwn you with that setup. (or at least i know i would providing i started ~20k away)..
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2005.12.19 14:58:00 -
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omfg.. Whats with all the stabs?
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2005.12.19 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Steele on 19/12/2005 15:00:43
Originally by: LWMaverick omfg.. Whats with all the stabs?
a carebare pirate Id probibly go with PDU II's in the lows for a bit more tankage with two BCU II's.
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Steele
Originally by: Lord Aradon raven and cruise?? are you mad??
LOL
well he is "sniping" at gates, what sort of travel time do your missiles get? if you are being shot at by sentrys anyway you may as well switch to torps no? suppose it depends what you are fighting i'm guessing not BS since they would probibly pwn you with that setup. (or at least i know i would providing i started ~20k away)..
Not sniping, sitting right on the gate ready to scram any inc ships. Torps don't do enough damage on smaller targets.
Most BS go boom from experience.... only the toughest tanks survive. The odd exception is EW and NOS, but they are few and far between.
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Steele Edited by: Jim Steele on 19/12/2005 15:00:43
Originally by: LWMaverick omfg.. Whats with all the stabs?
a carebare pirate Id probibly go with PDU II's in the lows for a bit more tankage with two BCU II's.
erm, what is a carebear pirate ? 
stabs let me leave, I said don't smack me for the setup... it gets the job done fine so I thought I'd share.
If you don't like it, then it's probably coz...
1. you have alot of isk and don't mind going boom lots. 2. you are not a pirate
go figure 
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Aradon on 19/12/2005 15:03:20 hum, hokeedoo, cruise is designed for long range engagements between battleships, you do know that.....right?
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:04:00 -
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torps don't do damage to small targets? lol, that's a new one...
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK torps don't do damage to small targets? lol, that's a new one...
he obviously hasnt learned how to web 
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Aradon Edited by: Lord Aradon on 19/12/2005 15:03:20 hum, hokeedoo, cruise is designed for long range engagements between battleships, you do know that.....right?
Try them short range for gank tactics m8, you'll love them....
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:07:00 -
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i do, PVE, i just prefer torps up close and personal.
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Aradon
Originally by: KilROCK torps don't do damage to small targets? lol, that's a new one...
he obviously hasnt learned how to web 
You can't do EVERYTHING solo... lets see...
Lock fast, scram, web, tank and damage ? cannot be done... you have to make sacrifices. Web has to be left out.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Lord Aradon
Originally by: KilROCK torps don't do damage to small targets? lol, that's a new one...
he obviously hasnt learned how to web 
You can't do EVERYTHING solo... lets see...
Lock fast, scram, web, tank and damage ? cannot be done... you have to make sacrifices. Web has to be left out.
Lol, sorry but the raven can do everything solo.
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Lord Aradon
Originally by: KilROCK torps don't do damage to small targets? lol, that's a new one...
he obviously hasnt learned how to web 
You can't do EVERYTHING solo... lets see...
Lock fast, scram, web, tank and damage ? cannot be done... you have to make sacrifices. Web has to be left out.
Lol, sorry but the raven can do everything solo.
ok, post a setup to do all of those....... for GATE CAMPING
lmao
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Vesas
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: tiller erm, what is a carebear pirate ? 
Are you under the delusion that the terms are mutually exclusive? 
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:10:00 -
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It's easy, And you should be able to figure out alone. I don't help rookie piwates come up with setups. Toodles  
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Vesas
Originally by: tiller erm, what is a carebear pirate ? 
Are you under the delusion that the terms are mutually exclusive? 
Post with your main ? lol
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Kalinin
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:12:00 -
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ffs, the guy posts a setup that he likes using. It works for him.
Then u get all the smacktalking 10 year olds going "omg no torps? NOOB"
Tiller is well known for his piracy. Who are these idiots smacking him? 
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:12:00 -
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owned hehe
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK It's easy, And you should be able to figure out alone. I don't help rookie piwates come up with setups. Toodles  
Then why post in my thread. Please be gone 
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:14:00 -
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were not smacking his setups, just hes using tools for opposite jobs.
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:17:00 -
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...I'm just waiting for the T2 cruise missiles to appear now. The idea of being able to switch ammo for different size targets is just plain awesome.
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: tiller ...I'm just waiting for the T2 cruise missiles to appear now. The idea of being able to switch ammo for different size targets is just plain awesome.
now im with you here 100%, i nearly messed my pants when i saw them on the market.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: KilROCK on 19/12/2005 15:23:08
Originally by: tiller ...I'm just waiting for the T2 cruise missiles to appear now. The idea of being able to switch ammo for different size targets is just plain awesome.
Lol, to annihilate your tank with the penality? Sure, it will be a blast tanking sentry with -80%* to capacitor recharge.
*Don't know if penality stack with 5 launcher using 5 t2 anti-ship missile.
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: tiller ...I'm just waiting for the T2 cruise missiles to appear now. The idea of being able to switch ammo for different size targets is just plain awesome.
Lol, to annihilate your tank with the penality? Sure, it will be a blast tanking sentry with -80% to capacitor recharge.
Cap recharge means nothing to my setup..... I work with the cap pool I have, once thats gone I leave.
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK Edited by: KilROCK on 19/12/2005 15:23:08
Originally by: tiller ...I'm just waiting for the T2 cruise missiles to appear now. The idea of being able to switch ammo for different size targets is just plain awesome.
Lol, to annihilate your tank with the penality? Sure, it will be a blast tanking sentry with -80%* to capacitor recharge.
*Don't know if penality stack with 5 launcher using 5 t2 anti-ship missile.
WTF? it doesnt cost anything to switch ammo mate, just about 10seconds
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tiller
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Aradon
Originally by: KilROCK Edited by: KilROCK on 19/12/2005 15:23:08
Originally by: tiller ...I'm just waiting for the T2 cruise missiles to appear now. The idea of being able to switch ammo for different size targets is just plain awesome.
Lol, to annihilate your tank with the penality? Sure, it will be a blast tanking sentry with -80%* to capacitor recharge.
*Don't know if penality stack with 5 launcher using 5 t2 anti-ship missile.
WTF? it doesnt cost anything to switch ammo mate, just about 10seconds
Check the stats on the T2 ammo... they have a effect. Though, not a problem if you are not relying on cap recharge rate to maintain tank. I can see it being a problem PVE though.
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2005.12.19 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Check the stats on the T2 ammo... they have a effect. Though not a problem if you are not relying on cap recharge rate to maintain tank. I can see it being a problem PVE though.
thanks for that, didnt know 
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