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pershphanie	Posted - 2005.12.22 04:29:00 - [61] Originally by: Carth Jared Originally by: pershphanie Thats fair enough. But why do you guys think having more support crafts when you have more battleships is an advantage worth always bringing up? At best its a trade off. Again. Im not really speaking specifically about today. Ive been in several situations where we had a bunch of t1 cruisers and frigs and atuk wanted us to jump in on a bunch of hacs and sniping bs's. When we dont I hear 'omg they outnumbered us and still wont jump in!'. Its total rubbish tbh. I actually agree that that is bull**, but its not like we dont hear the same. We will usually refuse to engage in a close range in such a situation as you have described because you would propably ***us. Somethin we then get slacked for when we try to keep it long range. It sort of an evil circle and its getting old :\| Yeah. Agreed on all points.
Sun Ra	Posted - 2005.12.22 05:02:00 - [62] Looking at ATUK's killboard you got nothing to shout about i guess they translatation goes like this. 'ATUK came to D7 and slapped us about till we were about to outblob us' gg pat own back circle jerk We're coming for you
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2005.12.22 05:04:00 - [63] .5. is happy because they made loads of kills, F-E is happy becasue they pushed .5. out i am unhappy cause i missed the fight, so BUUUHHH to both of you P.S.: and yeah agree aswell with persh and carth jared Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Amthrianius	Posted - 2005.12.22 05:09:00 - [64] Originally by: Tiuwaz i am unhappy cause i missed the fight, so BUUUHHH to both of you Me to ---------------
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.12.22 05:12:00 - [65] Originally by: Amthrianius Originally by: Tiuwaz i am unhappy cause i missed the fight, so BUUUHHH to both of you Me to I havent been able to activate moduals for 3 days :(
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2005.12.22 05:13:00 - [66] Edited by: Tiuwaz on 22/12/2005 05:15:24 Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Amthrianius Originally by: Tiuwaz i am unhappy cause i missed the fight, so BUUUHHH to both of you Me to I havent been able to activate moduals for 3 days :( you are primary anyways, so why bother with activating the modules? Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.12.22 05:16:00 - [67] Originally by: Tiuwaz Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Amthrianius Originally by: Tiuwaz i am unhappy cause i missed the fight, so BUUUHHH to both of you Me to I havent been able to activate moduals for 3 days :( you are primary anyways, so why bother? Someones gotta be primary. Might as well be me. After a while you get used to it.
Tiuwaz	Posted - 2005.12.22 05:17:00 - [68] damn you are fast, before i edited my post hehe Long live the Queen! Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it! To the nerfmobile!
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2005.12.22 05:21:00 - [69] Edited by: Robotek Hybrid on 22/12/2005 05:23:02 Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 22/12/2005 03:44:51 Originally by: Robotek Hybrid Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Raem Civrie I see two sides trying to save face. or maybe both sides were just happy with the outcome? F-E need to hold their stations to live in the area, while we are happy to inflict pain on F-E anyway we can.. F-E obviously feel saving a POS was worth the ship loses, were we dont really care either way.. and killing ships is more fun :) OK lets get one thing strait a fully t1 fitted fully insured BS. yea MAJOR losses there. ok.. count all the digits on your hands (both), now count all the digits on ur feet (both), come back and do ur hands again(both).. (yes i mean do it for a second time) now count 1 foot again (yes count just 1 foot for a second time) is the number your at now bigger than 1?!? and yes that prolly hurt u more than F-E losing their ships hurt them.. bah carth.. :P lol ok lets REALLY do the math 30 bs lets say teir 2 for the hell of it. thats 30 mill for 100% insurance. that comes out to 900 million isk not including thier ifttings which were likely t1 fittings b/c the ships and their fittings are given to them for free for these fleet battles. so lwets say they lost an ENTIRE 1 billion isk. HEAVEN FORBID that an alliance that mostly spends its time npc hunting an mining lose a billion isk. not to mention it is spread out across every pilot that lost a ship so you could put it this way. Everyone that died in a bs tonight lost 30 mill isk. bravo. Now take their stations so they cant make it back tonight.
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.12.22 05:22:00 - [70] Originally by: Tiuwaz damn you are fast, before i edited my post hehe Long live the Queen! well. basically im stuck here. If I try to do anything that overly taxes the system (like warping or jumping) it freezes my pc.
Carth Jared	Posted - 2005.12.22 05:35:00 - [71] Originally by: Robotek Hybrid Edited by: Robotek Hybrid on 22/12/2005 05:23:02 Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 22/12/2005 03:44:51 Originally by: Robotek Hybrid Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Raem Civrie I see two sides trying to save face. or maybe both sides were just happy with the outcome? F-E need to hold their stations to live in the area, while we are happy to inflict pain on F-E anyway we can.. F-E obviously feel saving a POS was worth the ship loses, were we dont really care either way.. and killing ships is more fun :) OK lets get one thing strait a fully t1 fitted fully insured BS. yea MAJOR losses there. ok.. count all the digits on your hands (both), now count all the digits on ur feet (both), come back and do ur hands again(both).. (yes i mean do it for a second time) now count 1 foot again (yes count just 1 foot for a second time) is the number your at now bigger than 1?!? and yes that prolly hurt u more than F-E losing their ships hurt them.. bah carth.. :P lol ok lets REALLY do the math 30 bs lets say teir 2 for the hell of it. thats 30 mill for 100% insurance. that comes out to 900 million isk not including thier ifttings which were likely t1 fittings b/c the ships and their fittings are given to them for free for these fleet battles. so lwets say they lost an ENTIRE 1 billion isk. HEAVEN FORBID that an alliance that mostly spends its time npc hunting an mining lose a billion isk. not to mention it is spread out across every pilot that lost a ship so you could put it this way. Everyone that died in a bs tonight lost 30 mill isk. bravo. Now take their stations so they cant make it back tonight. Maybe you should have checked some of their fittings before spouting such **** on the forums? Im seein plenty of tech II gear fitted. ATUK
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2005.12.22 05:47:00 - [72] Originally by: Carth Jared Maybe you should have checked some of their fittings before spouting such **** on the forums? Im seein plenty of tech II gear fitted. so your going to argue to me that the 100 mill isk loot error margin was ... not enough?
ZedLey	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:03:00 - [73] Originally by: Adamus TorK Originally by: thoth foc 150+ loses for 27 odd kills? what a victory!! I wonder if we had 150+ in gang LOL... well you always know better :P Anyway, it was fun... I was albe to shoot a Relevation for about 2 min... after that the lag was terrible... Many of us's ships, weapons and densors didnt respond and some of us was crashed and stucked :P btw, thanks for the "fight" :P Some ppl docked and got new ships during the fight so there goes your "LOL" comment
Carth Jared	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:04:00 - [74] Originally by: Robotek Hybrid Originally by: Carth Jared Maybe you should have checked some of their fittings before spouting such **** on the forums? Im seein plenty of tech II gear fitted. so your going to argue to me that the 100 mill isk loot error margin was ... not enough? No im just straight and plain proving you wrong. Damage and success isnt just measured in lost ships and modules. A few things thing you fail to consider in the equation: 1.ratio. Looking at our losses and then the amount of ships we killed we were more then satisfied at the outcome (I believe its almost 7:1). 2. Morale. It seems that f-e is just happy they held the system so perhaps its not the big factor here but i'd still say 150+ losses in 1 night leaves a scar. 3. Goal We achived what we were there to get. A fight. ATUK
ZedLey	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:05:00 - [75] There was no smack ingame. But you still have to ruin the night with this bull**** post.
Monarch	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:12:00 - [76] You spin me right round, baby Right round like a record, baby Right round round round You spin me right round, baby Right round like a record, baby Right round round round We ran out of ammo
Mortus Harbinger	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:13:00 - [77] Edited by: Mortus Harbinger on 22/12/2005 06:14:30 Has ATUK ever admitted to losing a battle? That's not a flame .. it's a serious question. I see a lot of ego and excuses from most of the ATUK members who post here, but can't remember anyone saying 'good fight, we lost' ... (in this or any other threads) Mort
ZedLey	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:16:00 - [78] Edited by: ZedLey on 22/12/2005 06:17:39 Originally by: Mortus Harbinger Edited by: Mortus Harbinger on 22/12/2005 06:14:30 Has ATUK ever admitted to losing a battle? That's not a flame .. it's a serious question. I see a lot of ego and excuses from most of the ATUK members who post here, but can't remember anyone saying 'good fight, we lost' ... (in this or any other threads) Mort How exactly we lost the battle? You could just stop talking nonsense. I see alot of excuses from F-E side but yeah losing that many ships even if they are t1 fitted causes no financial damage, right? w/e
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:21:00 - [79] Originally by: Mortus Harbinger Edited by: Mortus Harbinger on 22/12/2005 06:14:30 Has ATUK ever admitted to losing a battle? That's not a flame .. it's a serious question. I see a lot of ego and excuses from most of the ATUK members who post here, but can't remember anyone saying 'good fight, we lost' ... (in this or any other threads) Mort Dont be absurd. ATUK have never lost a fight.
Aman Sul	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:22:00 - [80] Edited by: Aman Sul on 22/12/2005 06:23:33 Yeah we lost a few. pershphanie The diference in BS numbers could have easily been made up by the large number of cruisers and Frigs you had. The difference wasnt that big to beguin with. Our fleet in D7 was never above 48 (not counting dreads or support craft outside the system). So we where outnumbered and outgunned through out both engagements. Plus both fights where close range. After seeing kill totals you cant blame us for seeing this post as an invitation to flame. F-E victory indeed. "Oh yeah there's enough for erbody"
Kim Wu	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:23:00 - [81] Its threads like these that prove that you still need to be able to show kb links to disprove lies tbh as you get more trolls by not showing than you do without. ATUK vs. F-E ----------------------------------
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:30:00 - [82] just to let me get this straight, the "win" condition for this for atuk was according to FE to: a) move into an alliance (2000+ members) mainsystem b) to take down a large (armed, later more armed) Pos c) to stay till all enemies are killed d) to outblob guys who have each atleast 5-6 new ships (0-1 jump away) while FE's "win" condition was: a) to remain in local with a number bigger then 50. i see what ure talking about here tho im sure sooner or later we will reconsider controlling space again we have stated multiple times that this is not on our "todo" list. So by implying that was our goal you already lost every piece of credibility this post could have had above "gg and was alot of fun". As stated in many other posts before (and im sure if it doesnt get locked quickly we will see some more of it), just keep telling yourself you "won", if it makes you fight more often i guess we are happy. btw watch out for our press release coming for the freighter we moved up through your space. That makes us win eve already, as we fullfilled our goal 100% to move stuff up while u failed to interven with illegal border trade
Monarch	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:36:00 - [83] Edited by: Monarch on 22/12/2005 06:36:47 Originally by: Kcel Chim just to let me get this straight, the "win" condition for this for atuk was according to FE to: a) move into an alliance (2000+ members) mainsystem b) to take down a large (armed, later more armed) Pos c) to stay till all enemies are killed d) to outblob guys who have each atleast 5-6 new ships (0-1 jump away) while FE's "win" condition was: a) to remain in local with a number bigger then 50. i see what ure talking about here tho im sure sooner or later we will reconsider controlling space again we have stated multiple times that this is not on our "todo" list. So by implying that was our goal you already lost every piece of credibility this post could have had above "gg and was alot of fun". As stated in many other posts before (and im sure if it doesnt get locked quickly we will see some more of it), just keep telling yourself you "won", if it makes you fight more often i guess we are happy. btw watch out for our press release coming for the freighter we moved up through your space. That makes us win eve already, as we fullfilled our goal 100% to move stuff up while u failed to interven with illegal border trade Quoted for OMGWTFDOWESAYNOW and then the music starts You spin me right round, baby Right round like a record, baby Right round round round You spin me right round, baby Right round like a record, baby Right round round round
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:40:00 - [84] Edited by: Robotek Hybrid on 22/12/2005 06:40:48 Originally by: Carth Jared No im just straight and plain proving you wrong. Damage and success isnt just measured in lost ships and modules. A few things thing you fail to consider in the equation: 1.ratio. Looking at our losses and then the amount of ships we killed we were more then satisfied at the outcome (I believe its almost 7:1). 2. Morale. It seems that f-e is just happy they held the system so perhaps its not the big factor here but i'd still say 150+ losses in 1 night leaves a scar. 3. Goal We achived what we were there to get. A fight. wtf does that have to do with anything I wrote. read it understand it then comment. God my own nations school systems are letting me down in the form of this guy ( assuming he's American). edit forgot to add i think your a ******* moron.
ZedLey	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:42:00 - [85] Originally by: Robotek Hybrid Edited by: Robotek Hybrid on 22/12/2005 06:40:48 Originally by: Carth Jared No im just straight and plain proving you wrong. Damage and success isnt just measured in lost ships and modules. A few things thing you fail to consider in the equation: 1.ratio. Looking at our losses and then the amount of ships we killed we were more then satisfied at the outcome (I believe its almost 7:1). 2. Morale. It seems that f-e is just happy they held the system so perhaps its not the big factor here but i'd still say 150+ losses in 1 night leaves a scar. 3. Goal We achived what we were there to get. A fight. wtf does that have to do with anything I wrote. read it understand it then comment. God my own nations school systems are letting me down in the form of this guy ( assuming he's American). edit forgot to add i think your a ******* moron. wow you got nothing else to respond with than a personal attack. Must suck to be you.
Kickass	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:45:00 - [86] Originally by: thoth foc 150+ loses for 27 odd kills? what a victory!! And they were outnumbered? Something dont add up
Trina Tron	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:51:00 - [87] Man, donÆt want to know what you consider a loss.
Robotek Hybrid	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:52:00 - [88] Originally by: Kcel Chim just to let me get this straight, the "win" condition for this for atuk was according to FE to: a) move into an alliance (2000+ members) mainsystem b) to take down a large (armed, later more armed) Pos c) to stay till all enemies are killed d) to outblob guys who have each atleast 5-6 new ships (0-1 jump away) while FE's "win" condition was: a) to remain in local with a number bigger then 50. i see what ure talking about here tho im sure sooner or later we will reconsider controlling space again we have stated multiple times that this is not on our "todo" list. So by implying that was our goal you already lost every piece of credibility this post could have had above "gg and was alot of fun". As stated in many other posts before (and im sure if it doesnt get locked quickly we will see some more of it), just keep telling yourself you "won", if it makes you fight more often i guess we are happy. btw watch out for our press release coming for the freighter we moved up through your space. That makes us win eve already, as we fullfilled our goal 100% to move stuff up while u failed to interven with illegal border trade TBH m8 you should take this post as the proof in the pudding that they areN'T "top notch" pvpers
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:54:00 - [89] Must be nice to live in such a simplistic world where wars are won and lost strickly from kill vs loss ratio. You guys knew the d7-zac area has been already lagged to hell. So you saw an opertunity to capitalize on that. You brought down dreads and tried to take out our pos's. We fought you off forcing your dreads to retreat back to their npc station. We did take heavy losses, but we stopped you from achieving your goal. But you had a better kill to loss ratio so you 'win'. What ever makes you feel better I guess.
Carth Jared	Posted - 2005.12.22 06:57:00 - [90] Originally by: Robotek Hybrid Edited by: Robotek Hybrid on 22/12/2005 06:40:48 Originally by: Carth Jared No im just straight and plain proving you wrong. Damage and success isnt just measured in lost ships and modules. A few things thing you fail to consider in the equation: 1.ratio. Looking at our losses and then the amount of ships we killed we were more then satisfied at the outcome (I believe its almost 7:1). 2. Morale. It seems that f-e is just happy they held the system so perhaps its not the big factor here but i'd still say 150+ losses in 1 night leaves a scar. 3. Goal We achived what we were there to get. A fight. wtf does that have to do with anything I wrote. read it understand it then comment. God my own nations school systems are letting me down in the form of this guy ( assuming he's American). edit forgot to add i think your a ***** moron. You claim through your "omg 30 bs kills dont mean ** LOL" we didnt damage them and that we werent successful. Im arguing otherwise. Nice going with the personal attacks btw.. your age surely shines through.... And no im not american. ATUK

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