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Remiel Pollard
Layman's terms
1584
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:42:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Awwww..... did somebody get awox'd? Did somebody make the mistake of trusting randoms they didn't know?
Sorry, this isn't WoW, this isn't TOR, and Friendly Fire Mode is set to ON 24/7. It's not up to the mechanics to prevent your own failure to understand the simple concept that you are a target for everyone in this game, whether you like it or not. It is up to YOU, however, to mitigate the risks you CHOOSE to take for yourself if you don't want to get blown up. CCP aren't in the business of handholding. you monkeys simply do not understand what fleeting up means, thats why we need a mechanic to assure you faggots are doing it right
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA.....
Just wait... a minute... lemme catch... my breath....
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Reported. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
581
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:42:00 -
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its just a mechanic to safe the smart from the stupid, its like the forum block button, as simple as that... it can not be in the interest of CCP to just attract silly gamers, let them decide on their own... https:// |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
581
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:43:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Harry Forever wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Awwww..... did somebody get awox'd? Did somebody make the mistake of trusting randoms they didn't know?
Sorry, this isn't WoW, this isn't TOR, and Friendly Fire Mode is set to ON 24/7. It's not up to the mechanics to prevent your own failure to understand the simple concept that you are a target for everyone in this game, whether you like it or not. It is up to YOU, however, to mitigate the risks you CHOOSE to take for yourself if you don't want to get blown up. CCP aren't in the business of handholding. you monkeys simply do not understand what fleeting up means, thats why we need a mechanic to assure you faggots are doing it right HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA..... Just wait... a minute... lemme catch... my breath.... HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Reported.
blocked https:// |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3532
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:45:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Awwww..... did somebody get awox'd? Did somebody make the mistake of trusting randoms they didn't know?
Sorry, this isn't WoW, this isn't TOR, and Friendly Fire Mode is set to ON 24/7. It's not up to the mechanics to prevent your own failure to understand the simple concept that you are a target for everyone in this game, whether you like it or not. It is up to YOU, however, to mitigate the risks you CHOOSE to take for yourself if you don't want to get blown up. CCP aren't in the business of handholding. you monkeys simply do not understand what fleeting up means, thats why we need a mechanic to assure you faggots are doing it right Wow, best one!!
WE don't know so it needs to change, although HE is doing it wrong the way HE believes it's right because THEN we'd all be doing it right, although WE did it right all along.
This guy has issues... |

SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
92
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:46:00 -
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I don't think they classify it as 'silly' Harry, they strongly stand behind these kind of mechanics where they allow anyone to shoot anyone, just like the forum block button you can do this in-game too to the person who attacked you inside your fleet, that's as far as it will go. Stop trying to turn this into the game you want it to be, this game has been running for many years and has a strong community who want these kind of mechanics. |

Psychotic Monk
Big Red Wardec Co Petition Blizzard
1452
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:49:00 -
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What is it about going into a game where the cornerstone is betrayal and deception and believing that you can trust random people in positions where they could betray you that makes you smart, in your opinion?
And what is it about taking advantage of that trust in a game that strongly features the ability to take advantage of trust that makes a person stupid in your opinion? Belligerent Undesirables Selling Griefer Immunity |

Remiel Pollard
Layman's terms
1586
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:50:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:its just a mechanic to safe the smart from the stupid, its like the forum block button, as simple as that... it can not be in the interest of CCP to just attract silly gamers, let them decide on their own...
No, you've got it all wrong mate. The whole game is about letting the players decide on their own. Whether or not to take the risk of fleeting up, or any risk for that matter, is a decision that YOU have to make. It takes far less thought if someone makes that decision for you, so don't go pretending like you're a bright spark because you want someone else to make the hard choices for you.
And I think you'll find that most of the players don't want CCP making those kinds of decisions for us. You accused me of doing fleets wrong in an above post, which I reported for the extremely offensive way in which you addressed me. But I also found it incredibly amusing, since I have never been attacked by the people I've fleeted with, and yet you have. Seems to me one of us is confused about the distinction between doing it wrong and doing it right, and it's certainly not me.
The irony in asserting that I'm the one doing it wrong when you're the one getting awox'd is so incredibly funny I almost didn't report you, I just wanted to see more tears. But you need to learn a lesson that there is no place for that kind of abuse. The language I don't have a problem with, but if you're just going to be abusive then there's no point to the discussion in the first place. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Pierrot le fou
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:51:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:you monkeys simply do not understand what fleeting up means, thats why we need a mechanic to assure you faggots are doing it right
Then what is the right way? Are you saying people who fleet up shouldn't be able to shoot each other? Are you saying that random people, should meet up randomly, to go out randomly, and randomly shoot at things in arbitrarily chosen places? It lacks total direction. You'll have your highsec peasants wondering where to go, what to do, what to fit. All you say is "Go to VFK, make personal epic stories of heroic tales" but you don't give them any direction, any help, any inspiration. There is no purpose behind the words, no substance, it's all empty.
Your phrases are like a politicians. It reminds me of a plaque I saw for a political party advertising their party as "simply human". Well, of course you are human, was I supposed to vote for the insectoid party? You claim to be King of Highsec, but even a king has legitimacy, through power. Not birth right, not self-proclamation, or the will of god, but power. Sheer power. You have it neither in your actions, nor your words. Misdirected, solitary, and without any clear path. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
588
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:53:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:What is it about going into a game where the cornerstone is betrayal and deception and believing that you can trust random people in positions where they could betray you that makes you smart, in your opinion?
And what is it about taking advantage of that trust in a game that strongly features the ability to take advantage of trust that makes a person stupid in your opinion?
I'm bringing societey to you animals, you long enough lived in stoneage https:// |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
32
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Posted - 2013.08.09 12:56:00 -
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I like harry , i +1 all his comments |
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SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
94
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:01:00 -
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^ you are deceiving!!!!  |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
33
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:10:00 -
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There is nobody above you |

SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
94
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:12:00 -
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There is no one below me either |

E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
244
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:13:00 -
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LOL rock on Harry. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2544
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:15:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:lockon to fleet members should be removable by the fleetcommander
after leaving fleet there should be a 1-5 minute timer, where you are not able to lockon to old fleetmembers either
at the moment there are too many douchebags who do not get kills and just try to fleetup with others and then start shooting them...
this would assure more random people team up, good for the game, bad for douchebags... win win
Clearly you don't understand this game.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
179

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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:17:00 -
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Play nice, otherwise I will have to lock, report I would rather not.
Snipped out derogatory language from some posts. Please keep posts constructive to the conversation at hand and do not engage in personal attacks. ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
94
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:33:00 -
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ISD Cura Ursus wrote:
Play nice, otherwise I will have to lock, report I would rather not.
Snipped out derogatory language from some posts. Please keep posts constructive to the conversation at hand and do not engage in personal attacks.
even ISD deceiving here 'some', just Harry's offensive post. |

Tyrendian Biohazard
Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance
104
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:35:00 -
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Did the carebear get killed by fleet members posing as "friends"?  My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
Say NO-áto CCP-EA. -áRehabilitate Frank!! |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
405
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Posted - 2013.08.09 13:50:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Leafar Nightfall wrote:Harry Forever wrote: nobody needs to use the option if they don't want to, if I'm commander I want to use it, because i want to fly with different people and try stuff, stupid doches shooting fleetmembers just hold back the gameplay, those need to be stopable by a mechanic
fleeting up is for teaming up, not for shooting ourselves, the mechanic should work like this
the people who want to fight can do that without fleeting up as well
the game is favouring idiotic gameplay too much, in my opinion
The game is know for its free environment. If people want to lie to get fleeted and them shoot the fleet members out, they are allowed to. Changing this is changing the game essence. If you have the option to turn that off, this affects other people gameplay directly, since they won't be allowed to do this anymore. You don't invite people to your house if you don't know them, so you shouldn't fleet with people you don't trust enough to do so. That's not idiotic gameplay, this is sandbox, free gameplay, the same mechanic that allows us to choose a corp at random, go to their home and shoot down their stuff without consequence I know you want random fleet ups and fair PvP, so why don't you try FW? FW is "Team Deathmatch", null is "Free for all" trust me its needed, to assure new players can fleetup and try stuff, at the moment they are just cannon fodder to those older players who want to get an easy kill by fleeting up with newbs... you need to protect those, to assure they can get into the game faster and without frustration this game is hold up by mechanics favouring douchebags, nothing more... I mean i dont mind i just go on you know, but it holds back a lot of other players...
You could form a corp, that way you can protect your newbies from us evil vets.
........because none of us have more than one account, ever ever ever. |

Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
53
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:16:00 -
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Harry you want this game to be something it isn't. Actually, you want something you won't get in any other MMO game
There weren't people enough in your first event to take down Goonswarm, so you gave up and said the few of us were fine enough and gave up on the events. You saw this wasn't firepower enough, so you ask for a nuke that you can use playing alone. You get betrayed (which is the essence of the game btw, knowing who you can trust) and you want a mechanism to stop this
You set a huge milestone in your first month in the game and now you are pissed of because its mechanics won't allow you to achieve it easily. You want to have right now something that would take literaly years of planning, and since you can't you want to change a decade old mechanic to allow you.
Sorry pal, that ain't gonna happen, not in this game nor in any other. You should try games like Counter Strike where most of the time only you own skill matter, but you can't change what a game is about. |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
180

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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:19:00 -
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SKINE DMZ wrote:ISD Cura Ursus wrote:
Play nice, otherwise I will have to lock, report I would rather not.
Snipped out derogatory language from some posts. Please keep posts constructive to the conversation at hand and do not engage in personal attacks.
even ISD deceiving here 'some', just Harry's offensive post.
1. I take personal affront to this statement. I did not deceive. I edited more than just 1 comment, but to preserve the thread I took care to not just slice and dice by just deleting the post and all that followed.
2. This treads dangerously close to discussing forum moderation.
ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
15980
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:23:00 -
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ISD Cura Ursus wrote:2. This treads dangerously close to discussing forum moderation. It's also dangerously close to being in the wrong forum, since it's a GǣFeature and ideaGǥ kind of topic. The only think that really keeps it from being that is its blatant trollish natureGǪ
Taking bets now: move before lock or lock before move?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
593
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:30:00 -
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Leafar Nightfall wrote:Harry you want this game to be something it isn't. Actually, you want something you won't get in any other MMO game
There weren't people enough in your first event to take down Goonswarm, so you gave up and said the few of us were fine enough and gave up on the events. You saw this wasn't firepower enough, so you ask for a nuke that you can use playing alone. You get betrayed (which is the essence of the game btw, knowing who you can trust) and you want a mechanism to stop this
You set a huge milestone in your first month in the game and now you are pissed of because its mechanics won't allow you to achieve it easily. You want to have right now something that would take literaly years of planning, and since you can't you want to change a decade old mechanic to allow you.
Sorry pal, that ain't gonna happen, not in this game nor in any other. You should try games like Counter Strike where most of the time only you own skill matter, but you can't change what a game is about.
"this is EvE" i know that statement, I'm just telling you, that statement is holding it back... EvE could be so much more
people prefer cavemanstyle gameplay over a real society that could unfold... too sad https:// |

Leafar Nightfall
Grease Monkeys
53
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:37:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote: "this is EvE" i know that statement, I'm just telling you, that statement is holding it back... EvE could be so much more
people prefer cavemanstyle gameplay over a real society that could unfold... too sad
That IS real society... people stab others in the back more frequently than anyone would like. Go to an underdeveloped country where nobody is watching and see if things aren't far worse then what happens in null.
I don't see what more EvE could be, there's an average of thirty thousand folks online everyday in the week and almost sixty thousand in weekend peeks. It can grow but it is not taking this direction.
Already told you, you want fair pvp with "safe" and random fleet ups? Join Factional Warfare. There's penalty for shooting fleet members if they are from your faction afaik and there is a common goal to random folks. |

Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise Fatal Ascension
405
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:37:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:
"this is EvE" i know that statement, I'm just telling you, that statement is holding it back... EvE could be so much more
people prefer cavemenstyle gameplay over a real society that could unfold... too sad
If you don't shut up I'm going to start putting my alts in your fleets, they can be a bit.....erm triggerhappy
That being said, welcome to eve, spying, scamming, back-stabbing and double dealing is all part of the game, entire coalitions have been brought down by it......so you should shouldn't be surprised that it happening with your un-backchecked random pack of high sec bears (and null dudes alts)
The reigning thought on the matter is "why didn't I think of that." If you don't want to deal with such affairs, feel free to form your own corp so you can require a history check.
That being said, this is a sandbox game, might makes right, and frankly you aren't very mighty. You want Eve to play the way you envision it, you have to be able to enforce your vision on Eve...and survive. |

SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
94
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:41:00 -
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ISD Cura Ursus wrote:SKINE DMZ wrote:ISD Cura Ursus wrote:
Play nice, otherwise I will have to lock, report I would rather not.
Snipped out derogatory language from some posts. Please keep posts constructive to the conversation at hand and do not engage in personal attacks.
even ISD deceiving here 'some', just Harry's offensive post. 1. I take personal affront to this statement. I did not deceive. I edited more than just 1 comment, but to preserve the thread I took care to not just slice and dice by just deleting the post and all that followed. 2. This treads dangerously close to discussing forum moderation. I am talking about deceiving, you are trying to get me to talk about illegal matters and frankly I am personally offended. I disagree |

Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
218
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:41:00 -
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Dear Harry: Go Away. |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
593
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:43:00 -
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Leafar Nightfall wrote:Harry Forever wrote: "this is EvE" i know that statement, I'm just telling you, that statement is holding it back... EvE could be so much more
people prefer cavemanstyle gameplay over a real society that could unfold... too sad
That IS real society... people stab others in the back more frequently than anyone would like. Go to an underdeveloped country where nobody is watching and see if things aren't far worse then what happens in null. I don't see what more EvE could be, there's an average of thirty thousand folks online everyday in the week and almost sixty thousand in weekend peeks. It can grow but it is not taking this direction. Already told you, you want fair pvp with "safe" and random fleet ups? Join Factional Warfare. There's penalty for shooting fleet members if they are from your faction afaik and there is a common goal to random folks.
again, if you want to do FW, do it, but trust me I know what I want to do and I'm doing it... I don't tell you what to do either, so stop it now
there are rules in developed societies, and there are reason for those rules, if people want to stay animals fine, I still will fight for humanity https:// |

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1433
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:43:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:stupid doches shooting fleetmembers just hold back the gameplay, those need to be stopable by a mechanic
There is a mechanic to stop it. It's called shooting back.
HTFU!...for the children! |

Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
593
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Posted - 2013.08.09 14:45:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Harry Forever wrote:stupid doches shooting fleetmembers just hold back the gameplay, those need to be stopable by a mechanic There is a mechanic to stop it. It's called shooting back.
I don't want to hurt those chicken https:// |
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