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Selfish Gene	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:45:00 - [1] Why not limit mining to 40 hours per week per character(or some other similar number)? This would be fairly easy to implement, and would only really hurt macroers and ISK farmers. Any normal player spending over 40 hours per week mining probably doesn't know what's good for them :)
Vegati Daxx	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:45:00 - [2] No.
Gariuys	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:47:00 - [3] And who the hell are you to decide what's good for someone? Bugger off... ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Selfish Gene	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:47:00 - [4] Originally by: Vegati Daxx No. Do you spend more than 40 hours per week mining then?
Amaron Ghant	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Gariuys And who the hell are you to decide what's good for someone? Bugger off... hear hear, couldnt agree more. Roids are a Menece I tell you, hunt then down I say, hunt them down!! Amaron Ghant the Mad Caldari Miner
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:48:00 - [6] eerh, this would lead to macroers simply getting three times the chars they have now and doing what they do now in shifts... ok, more income to ccp, but no change other then that. _______________________________________________ Power to the players !
Yaosioan	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:48:00 - [7] Edited by: Yaosioan on 23/12/2005 12:49:31 While we are at it let's limit total play time to 40 hours per week, and total isk gain to 100 million per week. The only people this will hurt are farmers and bots. Don't forget about skills, you can only train one skill per month. If you have a skill that takes longer than one month to train it counts for both months. Only farmers need all those skills so it won't hurt us.
Andrue	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:49:00 - [8] Originally by: Gariuys And who the hell are you to decide what's good for someone? Bugger off... QFT -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:49:00 - [9] how about no lol some of us pull 60 hours a week playing eve Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw.
Selfish Gene	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:50:00 - [10] Wow this is amazing, you guys really spend 40 hours a week mining?
Amaron Ghant	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:51:00 - [11] Limit mining to 40 hrs per week No more than 1 gate camp per week No more than 10 missions a fortnight No more than 10 bs built a month. No Limits!! Thats what the games about. Roids are a Menece I tell you, hunt then down I say, hunt them down!! Amaron Ghant the Mad Caldari Miner
Selfish Gene	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:54:00 - [12] Originally by: Amaron Ghant Limit mining to 40 hrs per week No more than 1 gate camp per week No more than 10 missions a fortnight No more than 10 bs built a month. No Limits!! Thats what the games about. Did you understand the point of the suggestion?
Julius DarkWings	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:55:00 - [13] Jees if your worried about what someone else is doing then I think you probably need to turn off the computer and get on with your life... In game Channel macrointel
Yaosioan	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:55:00 - [14] Originally by: Selfish Gene Originally by: Amaron Ghant Limit mining to 40 hrs per week No more than 1 gate camp per week No more than 10 missions a fortnight No more than 10 bs built a month. No Limits!! Thats what the games about. Did you understand the point of the suggestion? You are mad that other people are better at the game than you.
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Selfish Gene Wow this is amazing, you guys really spend 40 hours a week mining? Way back when, I had days where I spent 12 hours straight ICE mining... Granted I was doing work & watching TV as I sat there, but yeah. I've had weeks where I've put in more than 40 hours mining. I have not done that in a year or so though... And probably will never do that again... Having said all that, I'm not in favor of mining limits. You want to put limits on PvP? How about you can only gank 5 newb corp players a week? ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
Selfish Gene	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:57:00 - [16] Originally by: Julius DarkWings Jees if your worried about what someone else is doing then I think you probably need to turn off the computer and get on with your life... lol I don't care what people do... I want to prevent macroing and developing world ISK farming. But the aggression from people so far makes me wonder if they really spend more than 40 hours a week mining
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.12.23 12:58:00 - [17] yeah why not not ... go away plz Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw.
Selfish Gene	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:01:00 - [18] Originally by: Bhaal Way back when, I had days where I spent 12 hours straight ICE mining... Granted I was doing work & watching TV as I sat there, but yeah. I've had weeks where I've put in more than 40 hours mining. I have not done that in a year or so though... And probably will never do that again... Having said all that, I'm not in favor of mining limits. 12 hours in one day ok... you've still got another 38 hours over the next 6 days. That's over 6 hours a day still. If 40 hours is too low, then what about 60 hours? That would still really stuff up the ISK farmers. Originally by: Bhaal You want to put limits on PvP? How about you can only gank 5 newb corp players a week? Do you see any point in using straw man arguments? Do you really want to kill children and drink their blood?
Sykosys	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:01:00 - [19] Actually I come close to about 20 hours a week mining, and thats only because I have long work hours LOL An actual weekly time limit to mine would be intresting. It would definitly stop those 24/7 macro/isk farmers. But unfortunatly something like this just takes away freedom from the game. As much as most people don't mine more than 40 hours a week, saying they can only mine 40 hours a week really irks some people. And I do think some people do mine for more than 40 hours that aren't 24/7 isk farmers. A harsh thing to ask though. SYKOSYS _______________________ "She'll fly apart sir," "FLY HER APART THEN!!!"
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:03:00 - [20] Originally by: Selfish Gene Originally by: Bhaal Way back when, I had days where I spent 12 hours straight ICE mining... Granted I was doing work & watching TV as I sat there, but yeah. I've had weeks where I've put in more than 40 hours mining. I have not done that in a year or so though... And probably will never do that again... Having said all that, I'm not in favor of mining limits. 12 hours in one day ok... you've still got another 38 hours over the next 6 days. That's over 6 hours a day still. If 40 hours is too low, then what about 60 hours? That would still really stuff up the ISK farmers. Originally by: Bhaal You want to put limits on PvP? How about you can only gank 5 newb corp players a week? Do you see any point in using straw man arguments? Do you really want to kill children and drink their blood? Limits are bad, the idea sucks... Move along... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
Yaosioan	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:03:00 - [21] Okay guys, I have some more great ideas to stop macro miners and bots. 1. You can only make 10 jumps a day. Macro miners make prices plummet in near by systems so this forces them to wait in th system for the next day before they can start macro mining again. This won't hurt normal players. 2. You can only sell 5000 items a day. Macro miners make money by selling the ore and the stuff they refine into. By only allowing them to sell 5000 items a day they will lose a lot of income. Again this won't hurt normal players. 3. The game will only be up from 4 PM to 9 PM sunday through thursday and 4 PM to 11 PM friday and saturday. That is when I get home from school and when my bed time is. This won't hurt normal players. Also when I have homework the game should go down. 4. I will only drink chocolate milk. 5. I won't eat that, it's NASTY! 6. YOU ALWAYS DO THIS.
Selfish Gene	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:04:00 - [22] Originally by: Bhaal Limits are bad, the idea sucks... Move along... All limits are bad? Should we remove all limits from the game then?
Selfish Gene	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:05:00 - [23] Originally by: Yaosioan Okay guys, I have some more great ideas to stop macro miners and bots. 1. You can only make 10 jumps a day. Macro miners make prices plummet in near by systems so this forces them to wait in th system for the next day before they can start macro mining again. This won't hurt normal players. 2. You can only sell 5000 items a day. Macro miners make money by selling the ore and the stuff they refine into. By only allowing them to sell 5000 items a day they will lose a lot of income. Again this won't hurt normal players. 3. The game will only be up from 4 PM to 9 PM sunday through thursday and 4 PM to 11 PM friday and saturday. That is when I get home from school and when my bed time is. This won't hurt normal players. Also when I have homework the game should go down. 4. I will only drink chocolate milk. 5. I won't eat that, it's NASTY! 6. YOU ALWAYS DO THIS. All those suggestions would hurt vast numbers of real players. A large limit on mining hours would hurt virtually none.
Elenia Kheynes	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:07:00 - [24] like if anybody could mine 40 hours a week without using macros You would have a brain melt if u were mining 40 hours a week ^^^^^^^^^ Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
Yaosioan	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:07:00 - [25] Originally by: Selfish Gene Originally by: Yaosioan Okay guys, I have some more great ideas to stop macro miners and bots. 1. You can only make 10 jumps a day. Macro miners make prices plummet in near by systems so this forces them to wait in th system for the next day before they can start macro mining again. This won't hurt normal players. 2. You can only sell 5000 items a day. Macro miners make money by selling the ore and the stuff they refine into. By only allowing them to sell 5000 items a day they will lose a lot of income. Again this won't hurt normal players. 3. The game will only be up from 4 PM to 9 PM sunday through thursday and 4 PM to 11 PM friday and saturday. That is when I get home from school and when my bed time is. This won't hurt normal players. Also when I have homework the game should go down. 4. I will only drink chocolate milk. 5. I won't eat that, it's NASTY! 6. YOU ALWAYS DO THIS. All those suggestions would hurt vast numbers of real players. A large limit on mining hours would hurt virtually none. No they won't, they will only hurt macrominers. Can you prove that they won't hurt macrominers? Of course you can't, it is not possible to prove that something is not true. Therefore I am the winner.
Greyshadow	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:08:00 - [26] Edited by: Greyshadow on 23/12/2005 13:09:19 Simple answer to this is 'no' I'll just add sometimes when I'm in need of isk I'll mine over 40 hrs a week I'm sure of it. "Now you see me, now you don't!"
The Ratfink	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:09:00 - [27] no
Vegati Daxx	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:09:00 - [28] Selfish Gene, please come back when you have a list or have done any research about the amount of macrominers it would effect and the number or legit players it would. Now go away til youre done. Bye bye.
Selfish Gene	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:13:00 - [29] Some of the replies here are just comical :) I suspect more than 1 or two of the more aggresive might be from people who are not averse to the odd bit of scripted ore collection
Selfish Gene	Posted - 2005.12.23 13:17:00 - [30] Edited by: Selfish Gene on 23/12/2005 13:17:47 Originally by: Yaosioan Edit: I'm using the strawman fallacy. You are using the "repeat the same point until people stop paying attention" fallacy Actually, 1) I'm not repeating, I'm trying to counter some of the (few) rational arguments against the suggestion 2) there is no such things a the "repeat the same point until people stop paying attention" fallacy

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