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![CCP karkur CCP karkur](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1751716974/portrait?size=64)
CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2436
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:05:00 -
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Hi all,
In Odyssey 1.1. my team, Team Pony Express, will be adding the Radial Menu here and there, and also making a few other changes to it. We have also been working on some other small UI changes:
Radial Menu added to:- Members in Fleet Watchlist
- Fleet members (oops
, I forgot to add it to the flat list, will fix )
- On squares in route
- On system name in "next in route" (radial menu for the stargate there, allows you to jump to the system)
- Bookmarks in People & Places (or window popped out from one of the bookmark folders)
- Bookmarks in system map
Changes we are making for the Radial Menu:- Added a small icon on Radial Menu options that are range options so it's clearer they are different
- Added indicators to show what item the radial menu is open on (for brackets it's a whitish cirlce, entries in list it's a highlight)
- Set Destination is now primary action for Asteroids, Stations, Solarsystems, Moons, Planets, Stargates when they are not in current system (accessible through bookmarks in People & Places)
- Removed "Bookmark" from Drones
- Fixed duplicate options on Drones
- Warping to fleet members now works
- If the clicking time is very short and the mouse does not move in that time(=radial menu is not used), the click will register as a click (for example to select a target when Radial Menu delay is 0... which is btw not recommended
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- (maybe some other thins i'm forgetting now
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Drone changes:- Drones and dronegroups can be dragged from "Drones in Bay" folder onto "Drones in Local Space" folder to be launched
- Drones and dronegroups can be dragged from "Drones in Local Space" folder onto "Drones in Bay" folder to be pulled in
- Drones can be dragged into groups (as long as they can be grouped with the ones that are there already)... if the drone and the group you dragged it on are not in the same place, the drone will be launched/picked up and moved to the group
- Main drone groups ( "Drones in Bay" and "Drones in Local Space") will no longer randomly collapse
- Opacity of sub groups has been reduced
Other Changes:- Now possible to drag skills from Info windows to skillqueue or any input field such as chat to create a link
- Now possible to drag skills from charactersheet to input fields to create a link
- Camera movement when jumping has been smoothed out a lot
- Attributes and their values in Info windows are now listed in one line, making the values easier to read
We are still working on some things... and when the time is right I will probably update this thread, but until then I should probably not say too much.![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
Please give those things a try and let us know what you think ![Smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png) CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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![MeBiatch MeBiatch](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1665921521/portrait?size=64)
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1210
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:17:00 -
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cool stuff! ha and 1st!!! yay will update after reading There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
![tgl3 tgl3](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1993448921/portrait?size=64)
tgl3
Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms
350
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:20:00 -
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Yay for drag-drop on drones! Member of the EVE Blog Pack - Through Newb Eyes
Twitter - TG_3 |
![Paul Maken Paul Maken](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91009110/portrait?size=64)
Paul Maken
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
34
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:25:00 -
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Is there any change with respect to the problem where trying to drag locked targets into rows would often open the radial menu on them instead? Trying to press and hold long enough to be able to move the target without opening the radial menu is quite difficult. |
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![CCP karkur CCP karkur](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1751716974/portrait?size=64)
CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2438
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:30:00 -
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Paul Maken wrote:Is there any change with respect to the problem where trying to drag locked targets into rows would often open the radial menu on them instead? Trying to press and hold long enough to be able to move the target without opening the radial menu is quite difficult. Well no.... but in case you didn't know, we have changed how dragging of the targets works:
CCP karkur wrote:Moving the targets around has been changed. Before, you had to hold the mouse down on the target for a while, it would pop out and you could move it. Now you just drag it right away, you will get a "ghost" target and the target itself is not actually moved until you drop it. This is more in line with how drag/drop works everywhere else in the game. I hope that solves your issue ![Smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png)
I will be writing a devblog soon on the Radial Menu, and I should cover stuff like that in it ![Smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png) CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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![Akrasjel Lanate Akrasjel Lanate](https://images.evetech.net/characters/885989083/portrait?size=64)
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1188
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:33:00 -
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Radial menu needs an option for jumping thru blops(and titans maby) |
![Corporal Cina Corporal Cina](https://images.evetech.net/characters/520639772/portrait?size=64)
Corporal Cina
Offworld Miners and Fabricators Guild
4
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:53:00 -
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Is there any possibility that the radial menu will work for the drone bay menu? That would be awesome.
I think the drag/drop may be just as good though, will have to try it. |
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![CCP karkur CCP karkur](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1751716974/portrait?size=64)
CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2440
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Posted - 2013.08.12 16:59:00 -
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Corporal Cina wrote:Is there any possibility that the radial menu will work for the drone bay menu? That would be awesome.
I think the drag/drop may be just as good though, will have to try it. First of all, I'm very confused, what is quoted is not what the post says but anyways.... perhaps ![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
Edit: ok, maybe the post just hadn't update after being edited or some magic CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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![Chris Winter Chris Winter](https://images.evetech.net/characters/91518509/portrait?size=64)
Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
192
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Posted - 2013.08.12 17:07:00 -
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All those drone UI changes are nice, but what about a keybinding to launch drones? That's what's really needed. |
![James Akachi James Akachi](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90540984/portrait?size=64)
James Akachi
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.08.12 17:07:00 -
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Very cool stuff. Just one request for my user experience. Could a right-click (and perhaps radial) menu be added to the Customs Office interface with options such as warp to customs office? |
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![Careby Careby](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92502454/portrait?size=64)
Careby
Careby Exploration
10
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Posted - 2013.08.12 17:21:00 -
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Speaking of drones, it would be nice if the drones in the bay would show damage bars like they do in space...
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![Einar Matveinen Einar Matveinen](https://images.evetech.net/characters/667358344/portrait?size=64)
Einar Matveinen
Shimai of New Eden
20
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Posted - 2013.08.12 17:22:00 -
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i like these changes, specially the new drone interface ^^ |
![Corporal Cina Corporal Cina](https://images.evetech.net/characters/520639772/portrait?size=64)
Corporal Cina
Offworld Miners and Fabricators Guild
4
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:16:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Corporal Cina wrote:Is there any possibility that the radial menu will work for the drone bay menu? That would be awesome.
I think the drag/drop may be just as good though, will have to try it. First of all, I'm very confused, what is quoted is not what the post says but anyways.... perhaps ![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) Edit: ok, maybe the post just hadn't update after being edited or some magic
Sorry, I did edit it to be more clear.
I will have to try the drag drop from drones in space to the drone bay.
My original question was whether the radial menu would work when clicking on a drone from the drone bay menu.
I find myself pulling one drone in to the drone bay which usually means right click menu hell. It would be quite lovely if we could use the radial menu for such things as returning a drone to the drone bay or to tell a specific drone to engage target.
Is that more clear? |
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![CCP karkur CCP karkur](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1751716974/portrait?size=64)
CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2444
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:24:00 -
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Corporal Cina wrote:CCP karkur wrote:Corporal Cina wrote:Is there any possibility that the radial menu will work for the drone bay menu? That would be awesome.
I think the drag/drop may be just as good though, will have to try it. First of all, I'm very confused, what is quoted is not what the post says but anyways.... perhaps ![Blink](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png) Edit: ok, maybe the post just hadn't update after being edited or some magic Sorry, I did edit it to be more clear. I will have to try the drag drop from drones in space to the drone bay. My original question was whether the radial menu would work when clicking on a drone from the drone bay menu. I find myself pulling one drone in to the drone bay which usually means right click menu hell. It would be quite lovely if we could use the radial menu for such things as returning a drone to the drone bay or to tell a specific drone to engage target. Is that more clear? yeah, sorry that I was unclear... I knew exactly what you were asking... and the answer was "perhaps " ... we are still working on some things ![P](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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![Domanique Altares Domanique Altares](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92543585/portrait?size=64)
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1054
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:28:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:
Drones and dronegroups can be dragged from "Drones in Local Space" folder onto "Drones in Bay" folder to be pulled in
karkur I love you and this is awesome to play with on SiSi.
Is it beyond the realm of possibility that one day this could be iterated to simply dragging the group out of the window and 'into space' as it were, instead of having to drop directly on the 'Drones in Local Space' tab? Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
![Epic Rupture Epic Rupture](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92656871/portrait?size=64)
Epic Rupture
10
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:36:00 -
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Is it possible to include a section in the radial menu, when used on a member of your watch list, to deal with drones? For example, if I were to open the radial menu on someone within my watch list, I would get an "assist drones to" section, which would then expand into your different drone groups, allowing you to select which group you would like to assist. Once done, this will launch and assist your drone group to that individual, essential taking something that seems to take forever to do into one swift motion. Everything else looks good. Keep it up. |
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![CCP karkur CCP karkur](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1751716974/portrait?size=64)
CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2444
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:43:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:CCP karkur wrote:
Drones and dronegroups can be dragged from "Drones in Local Space" folder onto "Drones in Bay" folder to be pulled in
karkur I love you and this is awesome to play with on SiSi. Is it beyond the realm of possibility that one day this could be iterated to simply dragging the group out of the window and 'into space' as it were, instead of having to drop directly on the 'Drones in Local Space' tab? :3 And no... not at all... let me see what I can do ![Smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png)
CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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![MrTiddles MrTiddles](https://images.evetech.net/characters/670934843/portrait?size=64)
MrTiddles
Lambent Enterprises
5
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:44:00 -
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I approve these changes. Anything that helps speed up drone deployment and management is crucial to my play style.
It would be really nice to have a quick way to inform drones to attack a target that didn't require a right-click. Maybe drone-ships get a button near the modules that can be activated easily?
Just thoughts. You guys are doing good work. Thank you. Humankind rarely forgives true greatness. |
![Laura Mornie Laura Mornie](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90742096/portrait?size=64)
Laura Mornie
Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
10
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:50:00 -
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Nice job.
Like mentioned above, will be very nice to connect the "assist drones" option to the Watch List. MrTiddles - there is already a quick way to attack with drones, you can just key-bind it (it will send all active drones to attack your selected target).
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![Corporal Cina Corporal Cina](https://images.evetech.net/characters/520639772/portrait?size=64)
Corporal Cina
Offworld Miners and Fabricators Guild
4
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:52:00 -
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Agreed, I love the radial menu! |
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![ChaseTheLasers ChaseTheLasers](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1855056552/portrait?size=64)
ChaseTheLasers
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
58
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:55:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:
Other Changes:
Now possible to drag skills from charactersheet to input fields to create a link
I need to know: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3460166#post3460166
Did it used to be like that, or was it in my head? |
![Alex Trevalian Alex Trevalian](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93371986/portrait?size=64)
Alex Trevalian
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.08.12 18:57:00 -
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I'm unsure if this is easy to do or not, but I get really frustrated when I get podded and try to use the radial menu to quickly warp to a celestial or customs office and the Warp-To location is different. Usually it's at the top of the circle but sometimes not. Can this be made more consistent? |
![Nix Anteris Nix Anteris](https://images.evetech.net/characters/329941978/portrait?size=64)
Nix Anteris
Bite Me inc Bitten.
135
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:00:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Hi all, If the clicking time is very short and the mouse does not move in that time(=radial menu is not used), the click will register as a click (for example to select a target when Radial Menu delay is 0... which is btw not recommended )
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Now I will be able to open my scanner once again without a confusing pizza menu! |
![Domanique Altares Domanique Altares](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92543585/portrait?size=64)
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1054
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:05:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:CCP karkur wrote:
Drones and dronegroups can be dragged from "Drones in Local Space" folder onto "Drones in Bay" folder to be pulled in
karkur I love you and this is awesome to play with on SiSi. Is it beyond the realm of possibility that one day this could be iterated to simply dragging the group out of the window and 'into space' as it were, instead of having to drop directly on the 'Drones in Local Space' tab? :3 And no... not at all... let me see what I can do ![Smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png) (but could you do me a favor and think hard about if that could be problematic ![P](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) )
I suppose anything might be problematic, especially with a cluttered UI as some of us run them. I imagine there might be hassles that arise with dragging a group of drones into certain windows; I don't know how such a thing is handled internal to the UI.
The other options to expand upon what you've done would be to give us a 'launch drones' hotkey assignment (along the lines of CTRL+Click targeting. hold they key down, click the group, and out they go, negating the need to indicate a 'default group' or whatever) or to allow us to bring up a radial menu over a drone group, with 'Launch Group' as the default action for a group in bay. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
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![CCP karkur CCP karkur](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1751716974/portrait?size=64)
CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2446
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:05:00 -
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Alex Trevalian wrote:I'm unsure if this is easy to do or not, but I get really frustrated when I get podded and try to use the radial menu to quickly warp to a celestial or customs office and the Warp-To location is different. Usually it's at the top of the circle but sometimes not. Can this be made more consistent? What? Warp To to should always be in the same spot(10.30... never at 12 o'clock)... the point is exactly to have it consistent .... could you explain better what you mean? CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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![Jaime Gomes Jaime Gomes](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90983472/portrait?size=64)
Jaime Gomes
Pwn 'N Play Nulli Secunda
3
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:07:00 -
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am wondering if you guys could add another UI change reguarding drones.
During fleets we normally have the whatchlist visible at all times. When we deploy drones, in order to assist, we have the alphabetical options avaiable tru a list. If you remember right click on deployed drones "assist" option.
Could it be possible to implement the following: When selecting "assist" before the alphabetical list put the names of the dudes on the wl that so the assign can be quicker?
This simple change would be cool. |
![MrTiddles MrTiddles](https://images.evetech.net/characters/670934843/portrait?size=64)
MrTiddles
Lambent Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:08:00 -
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Laura Mornie wrote:Nice job.
Like mentioned above, will be very nice to connect the "assist drones" option to the Watch List. MrTiddles - there is already a quick way to attack with drones, you can just key-bind it (it will send all active drones to attack your selected target).
I have been playing this game for seven years and never knew that. I am not a smart man. Thank you. Humankind rarely forgives true greatness. |
![Maximus Andendare Maximus Andendare](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92567312/portrait?size=64)
Maximus Andendare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
442
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:09:00 -
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Jaime Gomes wrote: am wondering if you guys could add another UI change reguarding drones.
During fleets we normally have the whatchlist visible at all times. When we deploy drones, in order to assist, we have the alphabetical options avaiable tru a list. If you remember right click on deployed drones "assist" option.
Could it be possible to implement the following: When selecting "assist" before the alphabetical list put the names of the dudes on the wl that so the assign can be quicker?
This simple change would be cool. There were some murmurings about drone changes from Ytterbium. I'm not sure if it was a balancing pass or whether it included UI updates (the former I'd guess, the latter good luck), but it's something to watch out for. Step onto the battlefield, and you're already dead, born again at the end of the battle to live on and fight another day. |
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![CCP karkur CCP karkur](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1751716974/portrait?size=64)
CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2449
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:10:00 -
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Jaime Gomes wrote: am wondering if you guys could add another UI change reguarding drones.
During fleets we normally have the whatchlist visible at all times. When we deploy drones, in order to assist, we have the alphabetical options avaiable tru a list. If you remember right click on deployed drones "assist" option.
Could it be possible to implement the following: When selecting "assist" before the alphabetical list put the names of the dudes on the wl that so the assign can be quicker?
This simple change would be cool. Makes sense to me Can't promise anything though. Just a question... would dragging a drone to a guy in the WL to assign it to them be of any value? (not saying I'll do it, just wondering. CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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![Alex Trevalian Alex Trevalian](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93371986/portrait?size=64)
Alex Trevalian
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.08.12 19:17:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Alex Trevalian wrote:I'm unsure if this is easy to do or not, but I get really frustrated when I get podded and try to use the radial menu to quickly warp to a celestial or customs office and the Warp-To location is different. Usually it's at the top of the circle but sometimes not. Can this be made more consistent? What? Warp To to should always be in the same spot(10.30... never at 12 o'clock)... the point is exactly to have it consistent .... could you explain better what you mean?
You're right. I always equated the top of the radial menu with "Go to it" because I use it mostly to Dock and Jump. I'll try to adjust my behavior. |
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