Of course you wouldn't volunteer this information, but if they asked you for your Facebook, Xbox live, and online gaming behavior would you feel comfortable giving it to them? They already ask for credit score and search for Facebook accounts as it is. What would they think if they saw "Just scammed someone in EVE online!" as one of your Facebook statuses? Would they understand that "its just a game"?

EVE Online: YOU'RE A BAD PERSON AND SHOULDN'T GET A JOB

BE SCARED

Of course you wouldn't volunteer this information, but if they asked you for your Facebook, Xbox live, and online gaming behavior would you feel comfortable giving it to them? They already ask for credit score and search for Facebook accounts as it is. What would they think if they saw "Just scammed someone in EVE online!" as one of your Facebook statuses? Would they understand that "its just a game"?

Maybe my thinking out of the box confuses everyone so they resort to ad homimen attacks when they can't comprehend the situation.

i ask again: are you literally 12

Nope. 34 years old. 10 years in IT/Tech support. 2 years in a supervisor position. Worked for and with a few fortune 500 companies.

If you just want to call anyone that has a unique opinion on the meaning of morality a 12 year old to make yourself feel better about rationalizing your own views then I guess go right ahead. There isn't much I can do for you to help you see the world in a different light. You might want to try some capitalization and punctuation though. I hear the young people don't like to use that on their tweets.

so playing a game in accordance to its rules is immoral

thank you for setting my moral compass straight, Captain "the guy who ganked my hulk should be fired from his job irl" Tardbar

Captain "the guy who ganked my hulk should be fired from his job irl" Tardbar

Oh ho ho eve online so real.

Would you gank Mayhaw Morgan's hulk?

Well its not stealing your grandma's social security check immoral, but its about as immoral as taking money from another player playing poker in Las Vegas. If you can't see morality in such actions then I can't help you.

i'm pretty sure gambling is considered immoral by even the most neutral observer to begin with, so what's your point

i'm pretty sure gambling is considered immoral by even the most neutral observer to begin with, so what's your point

In EVE you gamble time and/or money almost as if you were playing a game of poker.

If it wasn't so real and emotional it would be boring.

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Just because the game says you can do such a thing, doesn't make it moral. The game itself doesn't have the rules of morality, that is still subjective to society and the person committing the action.

I'm not saying that you are a bad person who should be arrested... I'm saying you still have actions of morality can be judged by the rest of society however slight.

anybody who believes the time they spend playing video games has any value at all is not to be taken seriously

What you're suggesting is that we should carry our real world morals into a virtual world. Real world morals are the result of societal norms which is all fine and dandy. However, they do get thrown out of the window when it suits our purposes, for example wars and oppression.

The societal norms in Eve are different from that of the real world in that morals are irrelevant here. You're free to bring your real world morals into this world, just as others are free to ignore them because the norm here is to "do unto others before they do unto you".

Society and its norms change rapidly, 200 years ago slavery was acceptable, today it is not, 500 years ago it was considered a divine right for European countries to commit genocide on natives of far off lands, because we wanted their stuff, today that is completely unacceptable. Eve is set 21,000 years in the future, the 4 factions have been cut off from humanity for millennia, who is to say that the behaviour of a human population cut off from mainstream humanity for that amount of time would conform to what we consider normal in the real world?

In nature and in our own history, the strong have always preyed upon the weak, the strong have always become powerful at the expense of the weak, Eve is actually a purer reflection of the natural order of things than the norms real world society has adopted and expects us to live by.

Wow. What a dismal view on life and video games.

You mean you can't take pride in doing well in a video game? All those videos on youtube of those mega-constructions in Minecraft have no value at all? That that guy who reconstructed the Enteprise-D in Minecraft was just crazy?

Hell, even when I ice mine it feels like I am creating something worth of value to my entertainment and that is a low point. I mean you don't see increasing kill mails on EVE to not be something of value?

Gee. I see why you guys are always so angry. You must be bitter when you can get any joy out of video games because you don't value your time playing.

There is still morality in EVE. I mean the Empires frown everytime you gank in hi-sec and concord you. You lose sec status when you pod people in lowsec so there is some sort of law enforcement and judgement of morality on your actions (besides those of other players).

If you gank someone in null, then I say there is less of a moral judgement since there is no in game punishment on said behavior and people usually expect those who are out in null sec are there willingly.

Except if you awox and blue and then you have moral judgement of those who are in said alliance who would frown on such behavior.

But eve is real and goons are bad people who should be made to suffer in real life

which is a bit redundant because eve is real

In EVE you gamble time and/or money almost as if you were playing a game of poker.

You can lose your time and/or money every time you undock, no?

Even if you use isk for buying plex, you are still converting your time into the equivalent $14.95.

There is still morality in EVE. I mean the Empires frown everytime you gank in hi-sec and concord you.
You lose sec status when you pod people in lowsec so there is some sort of law enforcement and judgement of morality on your actions (besides those of other players).

If you gank someone in null, then I say there is less of a moral judgement since there is no in game punishment on said behavior and people usually expect those who are out in null sec are there willingly.

Except if you awox and blue and then you have moral judgement of those who are in said alliance who would frown on such behavior.

This is complete and utter nonsense and you should feel bad for saying it. Participation in EVE is entirely voluntary.

Holy **** you did unironically compare EVE to gambling

Paying for your EVE account and betting on a poker hand are two completely different concepts. You can win money from a good poker hand; playing EVE, on the other hand, only costs money and has no potential for a monetary return.