all people renting should be banned, and all alliances renting space should be banned

if they like a real estate simulation then they should play sim city

So I take it that is a no to coming and renting out a little bit of our prime real estate then?

You guys still haven't convinced all of the rest of us that this is legit.

I don't want to be a Negative Nellie but I'm gonna have to agree here. Tell ya what, you send me 1/2 the rent of one system to show that you're serious. I'll triple it and send it right back to ya.

Looks like the PBLRD alliance is up to like 135 now, those guys seem quite content making mad dough from those sweet Guristas sites

What is the typical rental rate these days? And what does that get you? Can you claim Sov for your rented system? Install your own upgrades? Place an outpost?

half of those 135 are GSF alts

"18/135 = 0.5" -- you, 2013

i rent in rl too , tought it was normal in a game too , srry

The renting of controlled Null Sec space, is a valid game mechanic, sure, and fair enough, but why pay rent to live there?

Are the riches of Null Sec so rewarding that people are willing to rent the right to live there?

Why reward those who control Null Sec with even more wealth that actually You have earned?

Why provide the Power Blocs with the opportunity to be able to pay for their subsriptions with Your ISK?

Hey, its only a game. You are bound to find other ways to enjoy Eve.

Why waste your ISK so as to have fun.

Don't allow the Power Blocs to brag, "Look at how much space we have". Make them earn the right to be able to say, "Look at how much space we can controll".

Move out of controlled Null Sec, and DON'T pay rent.

To clarify, this is an anti-renting thread.

Deka.

If you could exploit all of these resources without a sovereignty infrastructure, or if you could build the required sovereignty infrastructure to do it on this scale by yourself, then there would be no need to rent. But you cannot, and so your options as an entity that cannot take space and build a sovereignty infrastructure are to just do without these riches or to rent for acces to them. Renting is a much lower-effort option, and its real costs are considerably less than those that would be required to fully invest oneself in the taking and holding of space.

According to dotlan only 1 corp is more then 2 weeks old. Also accepting tinfoils hats contracted to me in stations I have no access to.

Deny yourself, deny goons.

so for some reason you think we would create shill corps that don't pay rent, recruit a bunch of people into those corps to use our space rent and tax free, to accomplish what exactly?

nevermind, stay in hisec

so for some reason you think we would create shill corps that don't pay rent, recruit a bunch of people into those corps to use our space rent and tax free, to accomplish what exactly?

nevermind, stay in hisec

Don't listen to Andski. We would do exactly that, all for the explicit purpose of twirling our waxed mustaches while we cackle maniacally. All of this would occur while wearing a smoking jacket, petting a white cat, wearing a monocle, and enjoying a dinner of human infants sauteed in the blood of maidens.

A rental agreement benefits both parties. The owners of the space make ISK from space that would otherwise be unused and the renters live in space where they can mine, rat, or whatever without getting taxed or having to go on ops.

If that bothers you, don't rent.

If it smells like a scam, chances are Goons are doing it.

I like you better than the other goons. Don't let them tell you to stop posting.

People like paying for the privilege of not having to defend their space. You know those alliances that fall apart when they get invaded? They should be renting.

If you've been a pampered nullbear who was recently made to leave your sov due to, uh, reasons, come to Curse! All the benefits of null and no one can invade and take it away from you. Bring your carrier to rat in and don't forget those faction fittings!

I don't know.

The issue that I see is that everyone that wants to rent does it from NCDOT now.

And that most non-goons don't like goons because of past experiences so they might have a problem giving them money.

Unless former TEST people really don't hold a grudge about being whipped so badly and decide to rent their former homes from the goons.

Test Alliance, Please Rent (then NCdot will defend you even if you manage to drop all your sov)

Yeah, don't you hate it when people spend ISK and claim that they're doing it to have fun? That is so lame. Fun is simply irrelevant beside a great big pile of ISK.