So I can get a crew in there to show CCP how clueless they are?

I don't know about the marauder changes but I find it amusing to see terrible nullbears and terrible hisec bears to argue who is more terrible.

Can you explain how the marauder changes are a nerf? I honestly do not get it.

They aren't

But he needs his webs to be able to run Incursions and doesn't want to have to cross train into a vindicator


OP... wont you just be able to enter site... MJD to freedom, engage bastion and start blapping?
Or do you fear that lack of pilot coordination will result in your fleet all MJDing in different directions? (please fraps that, I think it'd be great to watch)

Funny thing is there are the wh'erss making their isk in the background.

Only way null sec cartels get all the renters they want is to destroy high sec income.
These ongoing nerfs to high sec income are not a surprise.

I guess I am taken aback at the audacity of the attacks, but then again, why should I be?

Can you explain how the marauder changes are a nerf? I honestly do not get it.

Right...sure.
Null sec whines, and the general comment is "null sec deserves these things we ask for, and we are only rebalancing for risk and reward".
High sec fights against the rising tide of nerfs, and apparently we don't know anything about the game.

So how is this a nerf:

1. Smaller drone bay and bandwdith = less DPS.
2. Loss of web bonuses on 2 of the 4 ships, which made them viable in Incursions, and when shooting close range targets in missions.
3. Small loss of armour buffer (Kronos and Paladin)
4. HUGE loss of base speed.

Do they get some buffs, yes of course. Some huge, specialized buffs, if you don't mind being stationary for at least a minute at a time. Oh, and if you actually try to use these in fleet in high sec, you best pray you don't plan on repping any friends along for the ride, because that safety off is doom, when targets are dropping fast.

All the Marauder needed was a better scan res, and slightly more effective DPS.

Instead, it got a lot of crap that is useless to anyone who uses these in Incursions, and for all those players thinking they will improve their mission output, I suggest they test them, because I think they are in for a rude surprise when they try to deal with elite frigs that scram your ship and chew through light drones in seconds.

I have work to do now, and for awhile won't be answering any more troll attempts by null sec cartel members intent on destroying high sec.

Right...sure.
Null sec whines, and the general comment is "null sec deserves these things we ask for, and we are only rebalancing for risk and reward".
High sec fights against the rising tide of nerfs, and apparently we don't know anything about the game.

So how is this a nerf:

1. Smaller drone bay and bandwdith = less DPS.
2. Loss of web bonuses on 2 of the 4 ships, which made them viable in Incursions, and when shooting close range targets in missions.
3. Small loss of armour buffer (Kronos and Paladin)
4. HUGE loss of base speed.

Do they get some buffs, yes of course. Some huge, specialized buffs, if you don't mind being stationary for at least a minute at a time. Oh, and if you actually try to use these in fleet in high sec, you best pray you don't plan on repping any friends along for the ride, because that safety off is doom, when targets are dropping fast.

All the Marauder needed was a better scan res, and slightly more effective DPS.

Instead, it got a lot of crap that is useless to anyone who uses these in Incursions, and for all those players thinking they will improve their mission output, I suggest they test them, because I think they are in for a rude surprise when they try to deal with elite frigs that scram your ship and chew through light drones in seconds.

I have work to do now, and for awhile won't be answering any more troll attempts by null sec cartel members intent on destroying high sec.

smaller drone bay = less dps? are you kidding? you can fit a full rack of big guns AND a nasty tank.
run hq's with the sniper mode. shoot out 120km with mega pulse and a 30% tracking bonus. when they finally switch to you as primary, siege red and be repped. the freaking paladin in siege with an aar can rep 4800 armor every 7.65 seconds with a damnation (or the astarte now) kickin chickens. that will hold until you unsiege and the logi can lub u.

the marauder did get a huge scan res bonus.
it got a smaller sig radius which makes u harder to hit.
it gets a 30% to resistance....
plus its freakin MOBILE! every minute. jump. siege. jump. siege. you keep them at the range you want. for effective application of YOUR dps, not theirs.

and you dont have to siege for incursions. you can tank and deeps. get a loki friend to web.
all of the marauders are scary now. marauder 5 becomes a 10 gun paladin that can hit HARD at any range.

it can apply its damage a helluva lot better now than before.


i sure hope this job you speak of is digging ditches, because anything that requires thinking is beyond your abilities.
(sorry to offend ditch diggers everywhere).

TL;DR

ITS DIFFERENT WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

And yeah, a smaller drone bay means less DPS. You see, smaller means I field less drones. You do understand the meaning of "smaller" and "less"?

Why, in the new Marauder, would you be fielding drones 100K+ away from your targets? Do you like to watch them orbit your ship? Is it like a little green space mobile for when you get cranky or something?

Instead, it got a lot of crap that is useless to anyone who uses these in Incursions, and for all those players thinking they will improve their mission output, I suggest they test them, because I think they are in for a rude surprise when they try to deal with elite frigs that scram your ship and chew through light drones in seconds.

Watching a conspiratorial/paranoid mind in action (how do you get "omg null sec cartels" from these maruader buffs if beyond me) is amazing.

Am I the only one who reads a Dinsdale Pirannha post and hears the X-Files theme song in my head?

Watching a conspiratorial/paranoid mind in action (how do you get "omg null sec cartels" from these maruader buffs if beyond me) is amazing.

Am I the only one who reads a Dinsdale Pirannha post and hears the X-Files theme song in my head?

Maruaders? Cool

And on another note i thought i was playing a big space sandbox game... apparently not.

The marauder change is pretty big but you can also take it as a nerf for some playstyles. For some playstyles it might be a buff but to comment more about that i would have to test them first.

Maruaders? Cool

And on another note i thought i was playing a big space sandbox game... apparently not.

The marauder change is pretty big but you can also take it as a nerf for some playstyles. For some playstyles it might be a buff but to comment more about that i would have to test them first.

I'm looking through the EULA but for the life of me I can't seem to find the section where CCP promises things will always stay the same just because someone calls it a "play style".

My you can site the correct chapter and verse for me? Thanks in advance.

nano nerf would have been a class action lawsuit if so lol.